Marx predicted inceldom

[Deleted member 1476]

With his concept of alienation in capitalist society

As production is solely for private profit, workers have no stake in what they're producing and their natural human instinct to be productive (something which, if satisfied leads to wonderful things) is degraded. As a consequence they become detached from their labour and view it as something merely to be sold for a wage which is psychologically damaging

He expanded this with the concept of commodity fetishism, where we attach our emotions and desires to commodities that can of course never satisfy them, which 20th century Marxists observed as being rampant during the consumer culture of the post-war economic boom

The commodification of humanity and human interaction has continued unabated to this day, peaking again the 80s ('greed is good') and now in the 10s with Tinder and OnlyFans which makes sexual relations completely transactional, plus TikTok and songs like WAP (Wet Ass Pussy) which form part of a slut culture that sees trading dignity for Chad's commodities (face, height, frame, dick, abuse) as 'empowering' and supposedly more fulfilling than love (another natural human instinct that, if satisfied makes humanity flourish) and commitment

The insidious creep of capitalist alienation into every aspect of our lives is driving inceldom, whoredom, suicide and so much more. It will reach boiling point and balance and humanity will be restored but only if we revolt against the system we find ourselves in

The very term 'sexual marketplace' is clear evidence of deep alienation amongst us here in response to a cold, inhuman society warped by capitalism

TL;DR - Marxist analysis can help explain the misery of late capitalism, specifically inceldom

Jiffle at being on the right. Muh Trump muh markets muh freedom muh muh. Imagine thinking capitalist societies are 'free'. Just fucking jiffle at an incel not being anti-capitalist purely because he doesn't like SJWs (who are merely this generation's Christian moralists, not Marxists or leftists).

Tagging based niggas who got it sussed @Uglybrazilian @TsarTsar444

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Very good thread brobro You should make more.
also tag me son

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Very good thread brobro You should make more.
also tag me son

I will purge this forum of sfcels and right wing copers, they don't have a leg to stand on intellectually

You can't explain the current situation with 'muh degeneracy, women need beatings' etc, it's cynical and driven by anger (which is irrational). We are all victims of the times

On a side note, I take heart in the fact that there is a sizeable minority of people in any case who retain their humanity despite the influences, subversive or totalitarian, of the society they live in. See the French Resistance in WW2 or the counterculture of the 60s, or just everyday people

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I will purge this forum of sfcels and right wing copers, they don't have a leg to stand on intellectually

You can't explain the current situation with 'muh degeneracy, women need beatings' etc, it's cynical and driven by anger (which is irrational). We are all victims of the times

On a side note, I take heart in the fact that there is a sizeable minority of people in any case who retain their humanity despite the influences, subversive or totalitarian, of the society they live in. See the French Resistance in WW2 or the counterculture of the 60s, or just everyday people

Based, always cage at the only argument being degeneracy jiffle

 

[Wallenberg]

Socialist countries are shitholes. Incel in the west can afford to travel to SEA and escortmaxx.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

 

[Deleted member 4430]

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Socialist countries are shitholes. Incel in the west can afford to travel to SEA and escortmaxx.

Alienation is a far deeper malaise and can't be fixed by jetting off to see ladyboys

Social democracy is democratic, reformist, Western socialism and created the freest and most prosperous societies in human history from 1945-2000. Why do you think boomers have so much wealth

 

[Wallenberg]

Alienation is a far deeper malaise and can't be fixed by jetting off to see ladyboys

Social democracy is democratic, reformist, Western socialism and created the freest and most prosperous societies in human history from 1945-2000. Why do you think boomers have so much wealth

Social democracy is capitalism with some welfare and higher taxes.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Social democracy is capitalism with some welfare and higher taxes.

It is still a socialist ideology and has full socialism via reform as its goal (though its primary focus is state interventions in the interests of labour)

A fully socialist society could/would still have markets but enterprises would be democratic, much of the economy would be state-owned (therefore democratic via parliament) and production would be based on our common desires; its when production is solely for a individuals profit that alienation arises, and this alienation is not limited to the production process, it spreads throughout society and harms the individual which is my point

 

[Wallenberg]

It is still a socialist ideology and has full socialism via reform as its goal (though its primary focus is state interventions in the interests of labour)

Not anymore. At least Nordic social democrats don't view socialism as their goal.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Not anymore. At least Nordic social democrats don't view socialism as their goal.

That's true and I would argue is part of the reason for their decline across Europe

 

[Wallenberg]

That's true and I would argue is part of the reason for their decline across Europe

Decline? Nordic countries are social-democratic. They are actually countries that social democrats across the world admire.

 

[TedKazanski]

vaginocapitalism

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

capitalism is ingrained in human nature people would always want to mate with a higher quality partner

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Decline? Nordic countries are social-democratic. They are actually countries that social democrats across the world admire.

My bad, I meant the social democratic parties across Europe (especially the SPD and Labour)

 

[Deleted member 1476]

capitalism is ingrained in human nature people would always want to mate with a higher quality partner

That's not an example of capitalism plus I suspect prehistoric groups were far less hypergamous than today

 

[Shekelcel]

With his concept of alienation in capitalist society

As production is solely for private profit, workers have no stake in what they're producing and their natural human instinct to be productive (something which, if satisfied leads to wonderful things) is degraded. As a consequence they become detached from their labour and view it as something merely to be sold for a wage which is psychologically damaging

He expanded this with the concept of commodity fetishism, where we attach our emotions and desires to commodities that can of course never satisfy them, which 20th century Marxists observed as being rampant during the consumer culture of the post-war economic boom

The commodification of humanity and human interaction has continued unabated to this day, peaking again the 80s ('greed is good') and now in the 10s with Tinder and OnlyFans which makes sexual relations completely transactional, plus TikTok and songs like WAP (Wet Ass Pussy) which form part of a slut culture that sees trading dignity for Chad's commodities (face, height, frame, dick, abuse) as 'empowering' and supposedly more fulfilling than love (another natural human instinct that, if satisfied makes humanity flourish) and commitment

The insidious creep of capitalist alienation into every aspect of our lives is driving inceldom, whoredom, suicide and so much more. It will reach boiling point and balance and humanity will be restored but only if we revolt against the system we find ourselves in

The very term 'sexual marketplace' is clear evidence of deep alienation amongst us here in response to a cold, inhuman society warped by capitalism

TL;DR - Marxist analysis can help explain the misery of late capitalism, specifically inceldom

Jiffle at being on the right. Muh Trump muh markets muh freedom muh muh. Imagine thinking capitalist societies are 'free'. Just fucking jiffle at an incel not being anti-capitalist purely because he doesn't like SJWs (who are merely this generation's Christian moralists, not Marxists or leftists).

Tagging based niggas who got it sussed @Uglybrazilian @TsarTsar444

mirin iq

 

[Deleted member 10536]

With his concept of alienation in caapitalist society

As production is solely for private profit, workers have no stake in what they're producing and their natural human instinct to be productive (something which, if satisfied leads to wonderful things) is degraded. As a consequence they become detached from their labour and view it as something merely to be sold for a wage which is psychologically damaging

He expanded this with the concept of commodity fetishism, where we attach our emotions and desires to commodities that can of course never satisfy them, which 20th century Marxists observed as being rampant during the consumer culture of the post-war economic boom

The commodification of humanity and human interaction has continued unabated to this day, peaking again the 80s ('greed is good') and now in the 10s with Tinder and OnlyFans which makes sexual relations completely transactional, plus TikTok and songs like WAP (Wet Ass Pussy) which form part of a slut culture that sees trading dignity for Chad's commodities (face, height, frame, dick, abuse) as 'empowering' and supposedly more fulfilling than love (another natural human instinct that, if satisfied makes humanity flourish) and commitment

The insidious creep of capitalist alienation into every aspect of our lives is driving inceldom, whoredom, suicide and so much more. It will reach boiling point and balance and humanity will be restored but only if we revolt against the system we find ourselves in

The very term 'sexual marketplace' is clear evidence of deep alienation amongst us here in response to a cold, inhuman society warped by capitalism

TL;DR - Marxist analysis can help explain the misery of late capitalism, specifically inceldom

Jiffle at being on the right. Muh Trump muh markets muh freedom muh muh. Imagine thinking capitalist societies are 'free'. Just fucking jiffle at an incel not being anti-capitalist purely because he doesn't like SJWs (who are merely this generation's Christian moralists, not Marxists or leftists).

Tagging based niggas who got it sussed @Uglybrazilian @TsarTsar444

Ropefuel
Real tl;dr is - it's time to rope

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Ropefuel
Real tl;dr is - it's time to rope

No, it is to seize the means

 

[Deleted member 10536]

No, it is to seize the means

I don't even agree with things you say, like in the thread, there's quite a bit of bullshit. And no, I'm not right wing or left wing or any of the retarded wing. Politics are all retarded.

 

[oatmeal]

That's not an example of capitalism plus I suspect prehistoric groups were far less hypergamous than today

people think mans nature is competitive.

it isn't, in fact if it was we would be dead by now since a single human can survive, but not really thrive since they are social animals. we were meant to cooperate.

its just by forces (and as humanity formed civilization and later industrialized further and further) became more alienated and start acting in more selfish ways.

yes humans are self-interested, but part of that interest is to help others and cooperate for the greater gain of all.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

I don't even agree with things you say, like in the thread, there's quite a bit of bullshit. And no, I'm not right wing or left wing or any of the retarded wing. Politics are all retarded.

I disagree, we are social animals so the personal is the political

The human will is the most powerful force in the world, we don't have to accept things the way they are

 

[Deleted member 10536]

I disagree, we are social animals so the personal is the political

The human will is the most powerful force in the world, we don't have to accept things the way they are

You seem to discount the effect of technology and its consequences on society.
Lots of political issues nowadays aren't even real issues, they're mostly fabricated/fake, pushed by certain parties with a money incentive behind it. I don't even see all that much naturalness left in politics, it's all fake and gay and it's too obvious by this point.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

people think mans nature is competitive.

it isn't, in fact if it was we would be dead by now since a single human can survive, but not really thrive since they are social animals. we were meant to cooperate.

its just by forces (and as humanity formed civilization and later industrialized further and further) became more alienated and start acting in more selfish ways.

yes humans are self-interested, but part of that interest is to help others and cooperate for the greater gain of all.

Yes, we could only have survived in a world with megafauna by working together and sharing

 

[Deleted member 1476]

You seem to discount the effect of technology and its consequences on society.
Lots of political issues nowadays aren't even real issues, they're mostly fabricated/fake, pushed by certain parties with a money incentive behind it. I don't even see all that much naturalness left in politics, it's all fake and gay and it's too obvious by this point.

Technology is not a bad thing for society but the way it is inevitably used in capitalism is. Take Facebook for example, as a concept it is brilliant and should bring people together; instead it is a cesspit of misinformation, privacy breaches and psychological exploitation to keep you scrolling, all in pursuit of one thing: profit

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Technology is not a bad thing for society but the way it is inevitably used in capitalism is. Take Facebook for example, as a concept it is brilliant and should bring people together; instead it is a cesspit of misinformation, privacy breaches and psychological exploitation to keep you scrolling, all in pursuit of one thing: profit

Technology is what inherently enables and causes inceldom. Even though... I've listened to beatles for a big part of my life and even back then in 60s the themes of inceldom and whoredom were already prevalent. So, in a way, things haven't changed that much after all, but technology made it too obvious instead.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Technology is what inherently enables and causes inceldom. Even though... I've listened to beatles for a big part of my life and even back then in 60s the themes of inceldom and whoredom were already prevalent. So, in a way, things haven't changed that much after all, but technology made it too obvious instead.

Being unlucky in love is nothing new. Inceldom though is a recent sociological phenomenon that I believe a Marxist approach could shed more light on, because it is ultimately a method of socioeconomic analysis. It's true that some technological developments like Tinder have done nothing but harm society, so there's no single explanation, but I do believe that inceldom is largely a consequence of Marxian alienation

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Being unlucky in love is nothing new. Inceldom though is a recent sociological phenomenon that I believe a Marxist approach could shed more light on, because it is ultimately a method of socioeconomic analysis. It's true that some technological developments like Tinder have done nothing but harm society, so there's no single explanation, but I do believe that inceldom is largely a consequence of Marxian alienation

Tinder existed here since 1999 tbh. That I'm aware of at the very least. Probably much earlier too, there were some kind of platforms.
Tinder or no tinder, it doesn't matter, technology by default would enable it without tinder. It's only up to society to uphold the right things and morals, which of course it will never do in a "free" society. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the more freedom there is, the less free the man is. Especially when you're free to do mistakes. Also many experiments show that when there're more options to choose from, it's much harder to make a decision and you will eventually going to make no decision instead.
Listen to this...


suifuel, and they've lived in 60s...
Inherently in the past there also was always the provider/homekeeper role in a society too, which is no longer true.
It's just true human nature and no matter what kind of "politics" you try to apply, it will all result in the exact same situation.

 

[HumidVent]

capitalism is ingrained in human nature people would always want to mate with a higher quality partner

Humans who weren't living under capitalism for thousands of years just suddenly realized one day "much human nature" and then instantly switched to the capitalist mode of production.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

Humans who weren't living under capitalism for thousands of years just suddenly realized one day "much human nature" and then instantly switched to the capitalist mode of production.

huh?
all animals are hypergamous, including humans. it's in their nature.

 

[HumidVent]

huh?
all animals are hypergamous, including humans. it's in their nature.

Humans also bleed when they are stabbed. It's simply human nature to bleed when you are stabbed. Therefore we should structure and organize our society in a way that ensures as many people are stabbed as possible because of human nature.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

Humans also bleed when they are stabbed. It's simply human nature to bleed when you are stabbed. Therefore we should structure and organize our society in a way that ensures as many people are stabbed as possible because of human nature.

retarded logic. natural selection is beneficial for the human race, unlike bleeding to death.

 

[HumidVent]

retarded logic. natural selection is beneficial for the human race, unlike bleeding to death.

That's literally your logic. You for some reason equate capitalism to natural selection and think it's simply human nature when it's empirically not true. This is a blue pilled and idealist way of thinking.

Also just to go along, do you think natural selection didn't exist before capitalism? Does natural selection exist amongst animals? Do animals live in capitalist societies?

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

That's literally your logic. You for some reason equate capitalism to natural selection and think it's simply human nature when it's empirically not true. This is a blue pilled and idealist way of thinking.

Also just to go along, do you think natural selection didn't exist before capitalism? Does natural selection exist amongst animals? Do animals live in capitalist societies?

i don't know what you don't get, i already answered all of your questions.