Masseter Botox.

[mats.v]

Hello forums.

I am a newcomer. Just received approval from the team so thanks for that, looking to learn a lot and contribute a lot here.

Anyways I know you don’t give fuckall so let’s get to the point.

I’m looking into masseter Botox for face slimming. No TMJ or history of teeth grinding.

I have a balanced bigonial and byzygomatic width which makes my lower third look wide, even being relatively lean, it’s harder to see hollowness(no cope just means I got to stay lean as fuck to optimize shadows) in the buccal region. Despite my optimal facial width to height ratio, my lower third makes me look blocky. Kind of like a fkn minecraft character

I think a fair combo of some fat lipolysis injections in the buccal region and light masseter Botox will do me a good favor.
However I’ve heard masseter Botox can reveal some previous Skin laxity, cause jowls, and overall produce a more aged affect. Which I’m definitely not trying to look more gaunt as a I already have upper eyelid exposure and a poor infraorbital rim.

Is this gaunt affect guaranteed to happen? Or can I reduce my risk significantly by receiving, say, 8-15 units per cheek..

lmk your tips and experiences.

No photos, I know what I’m seeing and I know that I need slimming, beyond losing face fat.

 

[mats.v]

I just realized my autistic ass typed a fucking report. Sorry for the read but basically if u want a sum down.

Does getting a low, say, 10-15 units safeguard me from looking old after masseter Botox settles in?

 

[One Rep Max]

so earnest

 

[One Rep Max]

I just realized my autistic ass typed a fucking report. Sorry for the read but basically if u want a sum down.

Does getting a low, say, 10-15 units safeguard me from looking old after masseter Botox settles in?

No.

 

[hye732]

However I’ve heard masseter Botox can reveal some previous Skin laxity, cause jowls, and overall produce a more aged affect. Which I’m definitely not trying to look more gaunt as a I already have upper eyelid exposure and a poor infraorbital rim.

Is this gaunt affect guaranteed to happen? Or can I reduce my risk significantly by receiving, say, 8-15 units per cheek..

masseter botox can reveal existing skin laxity or jowls by atrophying the large muscle that was previously pulling the skin/fat back. however, if it reveals jowls that typically means you have excess subq fat anyway and you should consider aqualyx.

botox does not age you whatsoever, and if done on other areas e.g. glabella it has an anti-aging effect for wrinkles.

i'm gonna order botox in a few weeks and pin 30 units into my left masseter to help with asymmetry. i'm just waiting for the aqualyx swelling to go down after pinning not long ago.

 

[mats.v]

Do you suggest a try this out with a low unit injection, and gradually build up?

masseter botox can reveal existing skin laxity or jowls by atrophying the large muscle that was previously pulling the skin/fat back. however, if it reveals jowls that typically means you have excess subq fat anyway and you should consider aqualyx.

botox does not age you whatsoever, and if done on other areas e.g. glabella it has an anti-aging effect for wrinkles.

i'm gonna order botox in a few weeks and pin 30 units into my left masseter to help with asymmetry. i'm just waiting for the aqualyx swelling to go down after pinning not long ago

 

[nishka]

Do you suggest a try this out with a low unit injection, and gradually build up?

nah just do it all at once if it sucks you will be back in 3-6 months

 

[alex.135]

Hello forums.

I am a newcomer. Just received approval from the team so thanks for that, looking to learn a lot and contribute a lot here.

Anyways I know you don’t give fuckall so let’s get to the point.

I’m looking into masseter Botox for face slimming. No TMJ or history of teeth grinding.

I have a balanced bigonial and byzygomatic width which makes my lower third look wide, even being relatively lean, it’s harder to see hollowness(no cope just means I got to stay lean as fuck to optimize shadows) in the buccal region. Despite my optimal facial width to height ratio, my lower third makes me look blocky. Kind of like a fkn minecraft character

I think a fair combo of some fat lipolysis injections in the buccal region and light masseter Botox will do me a good favor.
However I’ve heard masseter Botox can reveal some previous Skin laxity, cause jowls, and overall produce a more aged affect. Which I’m definitely not trying to look more gaunt as a I already have upper eyelid exposure and a poor infraorbital rim.

Is this gaunt affect guaranteed to happen? Or can I reduce my risk significantly by receiving, say, 8-15 units per cheek..

lmk your tips and experiences.

No photos, I know what I’m seeing and I know that I need slimming, beyond losing face fat.

I did masseter botox 25 units per side.
(Photos below)

My masseters where already big but then I did a small cycle 500mg a test for 3 months. My bigonial to zygo width got to around 94% and the masseter was protruding out more then my zygo so i had less hallow cheeks.

So i thought i would do botox,
First 3 weeks after, i got crazy angularity and hallow cheeks because when i clenched the lower part of the masseter protruded so much out and the upper one below the zygo didn’t move.

But then after 1 month the lower masseter started getting Smaller too, so now again i have less hallow cheeks.

Im going to wait till the masseter is back to normall and then only do botox in the upper part of the masseter right below the zygo.
To try to get the same effect i got the first 3 weeks

 

[mats.v]

I did masseter botox 25 units per side.
(Photos below)

My masseters where already big but then I did a small cycle 500mg a test for 3 months. My bigonial to zygo width got to around 94% and the masseter was protruding out more then my zygo so i had less hallow cheeks.

So i thought i would do botox,
First 3 weeks after, i got crazy angularity and hallow cheeks because when i clenched the lower part of the masseter protruded so much out and the upper one below the zygo didn’t move.

But then after 1 month the lower masseter started getting Smaller too, so now again i have less hallow cheeks.

Im going to wait till the masseter is back to normall and then only do botox in the upper part of the masseter right below the zygo.
To try to get the same effect i got the first 3 weeks

Holy shit so you had lesss hollow after time? I’d figure it’d be the opposite affect.

My bigonial to bizygomatic is about the same. Which is great and masculine, but my jaw looks so fucking blocky specially without major definition.. seriously considering the masseter Botox. Let me know how injecting the upper part of the muscle affects your look

 

[alex.135]

Holy shit so you had lesss hollow after time? I’d figure it’d be the opposite affect.

My bigonial to bizygomatic is about the same. Which is great and masculine, but my jaw looks so fucking blocky specially without major definition.. seriously considering the masseter Botox. Let me know how injecting the upper part of the muscle affects your look

Yes i will definitely let you know and probably make a thread about masseter botox, but as of right now im waiting till my masseter are back to normal wich can take up to 6 months, so you will have to wait a little bit.

But for hallow cheeks you want the triangle that pin points from zygos, chin and gonial/lower masseter to be as large as possible. If the masseter is protruding more out then the zygo like in my case the triangle becomes smaller so there for less hallow cheeks. So i would recommend logically to do botox in the upper part of the masseter right below the zygo, if the masseter protrudes more out then the zygo and a tiny bit in the lower part if you really need to.

(Also there is a thread about the triangle wich explains it better)

 

[thekid0127]

Yes i will definitely let you know and probably make a thread about masseter botox, but as of right now im waiting till my masseter are back to normal wich can take up to 6 months, so you will have to wait a little bit.

But for hallow cheeks you want the triangle that pin points from zygos, chin and gonial/lower masseter to be as large as possible. If the masseter is protruding more out then the zygo like in my case the triangle becomes smaller so there for less hallow cheeks. So i would recommend logically to do botox in the upper part of the masseter right below the zygo, if the masseter protrudes more out then the zygo and a tiny bit in the lower part if you really need to.

(Also there is a thread about the triangle wich explains it better)

Did you ever end up doing it? I needa get some on my upper portion as well. Let me know cuz I heard this affects the smile of done wrong.

 

[kaydd]

(Also there is a thread about the triangle wich explains it better)

couldn't find it on my own, would you mind linking it? THank you.

 

[alex.135]

Did you ever end up doing it? I needa get some on my upper portion as well. Let me know cuz I heard this affects the smile of done wrong.

No i haven’t gotten botox again because the toxins are still in my masseter

Im currently about 11 weeks into my masseter botox, and because it was also injected into the lower muscle my jaw is non existent now, i have a really narrow jaw.

But luckily its just botox and my muscles will start to regain size after the toxins have gone.

But i definitely recommend injecting into the upper part.
Dont inject really much i would personally say around max 10iu on each side in the upper masseter for the flared jaw effect and hallow cheeks.

(DONT INJECT INTO THE LOWER PART!)
It will result in narrow jaw

Don’t listen to ChatGPT or any injector/doctor who is against it. Go find another one, you should be good if there is not a retard injecting you. Then it wont effect smile lines and other muscles.
The masseter is the biggest muscle in your face so its hard to miss.

Or just DIY (its cheaper)

 

[alex.135]

couldn't find it on my own, would you mind linking it? THank you.

I cant find it ether but I’ll look better for it and give you the link.

But in short

Think of it like this,
Your ogee curve/zygo, the gonion and the chin create a triangle. The bigger the triangle the more and better your hallow cheeks are.

And what makes you have a big triangle,
Its simple, forward projection.

But you can definitely improve your hallow cheeks with illusions, like big masseters and injections a little bit of botox in the upper part to make them more flared, and bonesmashaing the ogee curve,
(dont only bone smash the lateral zygo tho)
you also need to do the ogee curve

 

[mats.v]

I cant find it ether but I’ll look better for it and give you the link.

But in short

Think of it like this,
Your ogee curve/zygo, the gonion and the chin create a triangle. The bigger the triangle the more and better your hallow cheeks are.

And what makes you have a big triangle,
Its simple, forward projection.

But you can definitely improve your hallow cheeks with illusions, like big masseters and injections a little bit of botox in the upper part to make them more flared, and bonesmashaing the ogee curve,
(dont only bone smash the lateral zygo tho)
you also need to do the ogee curve

Hey G,

Will growing the gonials (ie downward not laterally) to produce a more sharp gonial point help? Reason I don’t want lateral growth is because I already have a wide bigonial length, and wider gonials aren’t ideal for shading either

 

[mats.v]

Hey G,

Will growing the gonials (ie downward not laterally) to produce a more sharp gonial point help? Reason I don’t want lateral growth is because I already have a wide bigonial length, and wider gonials aren’t ideal for shading either

Also intending on getting filler for chin, ~1mL for forward projection

 

[alex.135]

Hey G,

Will growing the gonials (ie downward not laterally) to produce a more sharp gonial point help? Reason I don’t want lateral growth is because I already have a wide bigonial length, and wider gonials aren’t ideal for shading either

The will be a little more downward, but if you have to much bigonial widht you can go a little lower and inject there also but dont do much

 

[cctslbz]

No i haven’t gotten botox again because the toxins are still in my masseter

Im currently about 11 weeks into my masseter botox, and because it was also injected into the lower muscle my jaw is non existent now, i have a really narrow jaw.

But luckily its just botox and my muscles will start to regain size after the toxins have gone.

But i definitely recommend injecting into the upper part.
Dont inject really much i would personally say around max 10iu on each side in the upper masseter for the flared jaw effect and hallow cheeks.

(DONT INJECT INTO THE LOWER PART!)
It will result in narrow jaw

Don’t listen to ChatGPT or any injector/doctor who is against it. Go find another one, you should be good if there is not a retard injecting you. Then it wont effect smile lines and other muscles.
The masseter is the biggest muscle in your face so its hard to miss.

Or just DIY (its cheaper)

You look better tho with Botox also the Botox in only done at the base I think you can’t really do it higher because of the mandible condyle and even if you did go it higher it still atrophies your muscle vertically so there’s no such thing as injecting higher or lower they do it at the base of the muscle . Your byzigo is good but it’s just the mandible that’s narrow maybe if you get more Zygo protrusion it’ll look better or a palate expander to widen the palate so your hole midface and Zygo region widen but you may not be a candidate

 

[thekid0127]

You look better tho with Botox also the Botox in only done at the base I think you can’t really do it higher because of the mandible condyle and even if you did go it higher it still atrophies your muscle vertically so there’s no such thing as injecting higher or lower they do it at the base of the muscle . Your byzigo is good but it’s just the mandible that’s narrow maybe if you get more Zygo protrusion it’ll look better or a palate expander to widen the palate so your hole midface and Zygo region widen but you may not be a candidate

Are you sure about thi? Pretty sure if you inject higher up the lower won’t be affected.

 

[cctslbz]

Are you sure about thi? Pretty sure if you inject higher up the lower won’t be affected.

Yes , usually the injection is done lower , as I said it’s because at the base is the most muscle and it’s the strongest point of the Masseter there and higher up the muscles there are some shit you don’t really wanna mess with , and when you do Masseter Botox it’ll help you both releasing the muscle so you’ll feel your face leaner and better and it’ll obv look better if you have a chud wide face cause when you have a wide maxilla you usually want your masseters to be smaller to make that og curve pop and Zygo shadow pop like look at the top psl gods they all have elite facial contour and they’re Masseters aren’t huge

 

[alex.135]

You look better tho with Botox also the Botox in only done at the base I think you can’t really do it higher because of the mandible condyle and even if you did go it higher it still atrophies your muscle vertically so there’s no such thing as injecting higher or lower they do it at the base of the muscle . Your byzigo is good but it’s just the mandible that’s narrow maybe if you get more Zygo protrusion it’ll look better or a palate expander to widen the palate so your hole midface and Zygo region widen but you may not be a candidate

What do you mean do it higher because of the mandable. The mandible is the lower part of your face. So how couldn’t you go higher because of the mandible. Holy grey,
And yes the point with injecting higher is to atrophy the muscles vertically.

You can inject the masseter in multiple points — it’s not just “one spot at the base.” Standard practice is actually using several injection points across the muscle (usually 3–5 per side) depending on size and shape.

And also your saying because your mandibles is narrow get more zygo projection, what the fuck are you smoking.

Holy grey

 

[cctslbz]

What do you mean do it higher because of the mandable. The mandible is the lower part of your face. So how couldn’t you go higher because of the mandible. Holy grey,
And yes the point with injecting higher is to atrophy the muscles vertically.

You can inject the masseter in multiple points — it’s not just “one spot at the base.” Standard practice is actually using several injection points across the muscle (usually 3–5 per side) depending on size and shape.

And also your saying because your mandibles is narrow get more zygo projection, what the fuck are you smoking.

Holy grey

mf are you a retard 🫩
If you go way up higher it’s the mandible condyle and you don’t want to mess with that the muscle is the most dense around the base look in every Masseter botox video that they all do the injections around the base part
Kid you’re a retard you can’t widen your mandible if you have a narrow mandible only thing you can do is widen your maxilla and that makes a tapered V shaped look to your face wich is better than a narrow maxilla narrow mandible please study your shit before you come around and talk bs

Look in the picture kid this is where you do Masseter Botox not higher because there are other muscles and nerves , the Masseter wraps round your gonion , you’re supposed to inject in the areea presented in the picture
Also I did not say you only inject once I said there’s one areea where you inject multiple units

 

[alex.135]

Your really lacking something upstairs buddy.

No one is talking about injecting in the mandable condyle grey.

And no one is talking about widening your mandible, you can give the illusion of wider mandible with having big masseter muscles.
you clearly dont know how to read or your lacking basic understanding buddy.

In most practices the botox is injected in the lower masseter to get the v shape look that is mostly done for women, but if your a man you dont want a narrow jaw so injecting in the lower masseter is unideal.

but the thing here is that if you have a big masseter (and they are high set) they can protrude out more laterally then the zygo, giving the illusion of lower set zygos and bloated look. So there for injecting higher into the masseter (NOT MANDBALE CONDYLE)
makes the masseter stop protruding out more then the zygo while keeping the bulk in the lower jaw there for giving the illusion of wider jaw.

Your so stupid it hurts reading your replays
Your clearly just a kid who lacks basic logic and understanding

 

[cctslbz]

Your really lacking something upstairs buddy.

No one is talking about injecting in the mandable condyle grey.

And no one is talking about widening your mandible, you can give the illusion of wider mandible with having big masseter muscles.
you clearly dont know how to read or your lacking basic understanding buddy.

In most practices the botox is injected in the lower masseter to get the v shape look that is mostly done for women, but if your a man you dont want a narrow jaw so injecting in the lower masseter is unideal.

but the thing here is that if you have a big masseter (and they are high set) they can protrude out more laterally then the zygo, giving the illusion of lower set zygos and bloated look. So there for injecting higher into the masseter (NOT MANDBALE CONDYLE)
makes the masseter stop protruding out more then the zygo while keeping the bulk in the lower jaw there for giving the illusion of wider jaw.

Your so stupid it hurts reading your replays
Your clearly just a kid who lacks basic logic and understanding

Stop using buzzwords
There’s no such thing as high set or low set masseters this is just cope
and i already told you that it doesn’t matter where you inject as long as you’re in the safe zone because your muscle will atrophy simultaneously vertically

and kid I already told you if you do higher there’s higher risk of issues because higher up there’s other factors such as nerves I didn’t tell you to go inject in the mandible condyle you’re just low iq and typing buzzwords all over this , firstly study basic shit then go on and argument w me cause you ain’t right and you know it and your post ratio is shit aswell and behind the screen you’re prob 3/10 so sybau

 

[alex.135]

Stop using buzzwords
There’s no such thing as high set or low set masseters this is just cope
and i already told you that it doesn’t matter where you inject as long as you’re in the safe zone because your muscle will atrophy simultaneously vertically

and kid I already told you if you do higher there’s higher risk of issues because higher up there’s other factors such as nerves I didn’t tell you to go inject in the mandible condyle you’re just low iq and typing buzzwords all over this , firstly study basic shit then go on and argument w me cause you ain’t right and you know it and your post ratio is shit aswell and behind the screen you’re prob 3/10 so sybau

Bro your just typing buzzwords
Clav has said the same thing and im pretty sure he also knows more than you.

Also it dosent metter what you say because i still mog you, you can see pictures of above, go cry about it.

Your lack so much intellect kid its not even funny

 

[thekid0127]

Bro your just typing buzzwords
Clav has said the same thing and im pretty sure he also knows more than you.

Also it dosent metter what you say because i still mog you, you can see pictures of above, go cry about it.

Your lack so much intellect kid its not even funny

So I can inject it on the upper portion or not lol. My masseter like goes up by my cheek.

 

[kaydd]

Think of it like this,
Your ogee curve/zygo, the gonion and the chin create a triangle. The bigger the triangle the more and better your hallow cheeks are.

And what makes you have a big triangle,
Its simple, forward projection.

how much of it is the ramus notch vs masseter?
I would assume the bone is more important since you botoxd your own masseters

 

[alex.135]

So I can inject it on the upper portion or not lol. My masseter like goes up by my cheek.

yes inject in upper