maxilla

[Steingrímu Björn]

erm guys, is this a flat maxilla or a forwardly grown one. i keep hearing mixed opinions, some say it’s flat, while others say it’s properly grown. (btw im very bloated in these pictures)

 

[BlameAdamAndEve]

Looks good imo

 

[cavy]

looks decent

i wouldnt say its recessed js slightly

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

looks decent

i wouldnt say its recessed js slightly

how tf does that work

 

[cavy]

how tf does that work

meaning ive seen worse maxillas

ur maxilla is a teeny winy recessed

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

meaning ive seen worse maxillas

ur maxilla is a teeny winy recessed

should i be looking to do something about this in the future? or is just a slight recession that doesn’t need to be taken care of. also can please explain how you determined it’s recessed

 

[Snicket]

erm guys, is this a flat maxilla or a forwardly grown one. i keep hearing mixed opinions, some say it’s flat, while others say it’s properly grown. (btw im very bloated in these pictures)

Your maxilla is okay. Calm down, kid.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Your maxilla is okay. Calm down, kid.

do you know why i could have eyebags then? i have good infras

 

[Snicket]

do you know why i could have eyebags then? i have good infras

You don't look like you have a negative orbital vector to me.
It must be declining fat pads.
This is usually genetic. Look at your parents.
They're not eye bags yet so don't be so dramatic about it.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

You don't look like you have a negative orbital vector to me.
It must be declining fat pads.
This is usually genetic. Look at your parents.
They're not eye bags yet so don't be so dramatic about it.

i heard stuff about vollufiline, jfl you think it could actually work? ik standard fillers are prob better

 

[Snicket]

i heard stuff about vollufiline, jfl you think it could actually work? ik standard fillers are prob better

How old are you?

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

How old are you?

15, so i cant get fillers yet unless i do it to myself (probaly retarded)

 

[Snicket]

15, so i cant get fillers yet unless i do it to myself (probaly retarded)

No and it prematurely ages you so bad idea.
No-one ever listens but it really is not bad at all.
No-one in the real world would even notice.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

No and it prematurely ages you so bad idea.
No-one ever listens but it really is not bad at all.
No-one in the real world would even notice.

ig i just have to fix my mandibular recession, no one really be pointing out the flaws in my front profile jfl and even if they do they just rate without saying what i need to fix

 

[Snicket]

ig i just have to fix my mandibular recession, no one really be pointing out the flaws in my front profile jfl and even if they do they just rate without saying what i need to fix

There's nothing wrong. Just be a normal teenager at least until you're 18.
You have the rest of your life to be old.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

There's nothing wrong. Just be a normal teenager at least until you're 18.
You have the rest of your life to be old.

id rather do things about it now, probably will get a herbst appliance for my mandibular recession and mse to fix my fwhr, palate, and breathig. after that itll be steroids and hgh followed up by other softmaxes. (and if when im lean and my cheekbones arent dense, ill probably bonesmash) it sucks i got into the bp this early cuz i got body dismorphia but, that doesnt matter and the only thing that matters are looks.

 

[Snicket]

id rather do things about it now, probably will get a herbst appliance for my mandibular recession and mse to fix my fwhr, palate, and breathig. after that itll be steroids and hgh followed up by other softmaxes. (and if when im lean and my cheekbones arent dense, ill probably bonesmash) it sucks i got into the bp this early cuz i got body dismorphia but, that doesnt matter and the only thing that matters are looks.

This will be my last comment. You're a normal looking kid.
Wake up and get your head out of your ass.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

This will be my last comment. You're a normal looking kid.
Wake up and get your head out of your ass.

repped for high iq

 

[soggra]

This will be my last comment. You're a normal looking kid.
Wake up and get your head out of your ass.

Normal looking isn’t enough. Wheat waffles is MTN but he’s an incel still

 

[soggra]

id rather do things about it now, probably will get a herbst appliance for my mandibular recession and mse to fix my fwhr, palate, and breathig. after that itll be steroids and hgh followed up by other softmaxes. (and if when im lean and my cheekbones arent dense, ill probably bonesmash) it sucks i got into the bp this early cuz i got body dismorphia but, that doesnt matter and the only thing that matters are looks.

1. Herbst appliance is absolute dog shit. It applies backwards pressure to the maxilla.

2. Steroids can fk up your health and give you acne.

3. Bonesmashing works but don’t be a retard and overdo it

4. Getting into the bp at 15 really isn’t early honestly

5. MSE is good for the most part just don’t over do it

 

[Snicket]

Normal looking isn’t enough. Wheat waffles is MTN but he’s an incel still

WW isn't an incel. Plenty of kids who look like him have girlfriends in high school

If he becomes a perma-rotter here then he definitely won't stand a chance.

 

[soggra]

WW isn't an incel. Plenty of kids who look like him have girlfriends in high school

If he becomes a perma-rotter here then he definitely won't stand a chance.

WW has said plenty of times that he struggled to get a girlfriend and he also has been ghosted many times. Another example of a MTN incel is @_stuede_ on TikTok

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

1. Herbst appliance is absolute dog shit. It applies backwards pressure to the maxilla.

2. Steroids can fk up your health and give you acne.

3. Bonesmashing works but don’t be a retard and overdo it

4. Getting into the bp at 15 really isn’t early honestly

5. MSE is good for the most part just don’t over do it

any suggestion for what applaince to use to bring my mandible forward? also ill be researching on steroid forums on to properly roid. also wdym not to over do mse? like making to too wide too fast and making my face assyemetrical?

 

[Snicket]

WW has said plenty of times that he struggled to get a girlfriend and he also has been ghosted many times. Another example of a MTN incel is @_stuede_ on TikTok

We shouldn't be encouraging young kids like this to give up and rot.
I will not in good conscience do this.
If you feed his neuroticisms, it will just get worse.

 

[Snicket]

any suggestion for what applaince to use to bring my mandible forward? also ill be researching on steroid forums on to properly roid. also wdym not to over do mse? like making to too wide too fast and making my face assyemetrical?

He's promoting treatments that either don't work or are not applicable in your case.
You'd do best to forget it and delete your account.
I have said all I will say on this now.

 

[soggra]

any suggestion for what applaince to use to bring my mandible forward? also ill be researching on steroid forums on to properly roid. also wdym not to over do mse? like making to too wide too fast and making my face assyemetrical?

1. Probably the twin block appliance but do it as early as possible before you turn 16 ideally
2. Yes

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

1. Probably the twin block appliance but do it as early as possible before you turn 16 ideally
2. Yes

how much should i be expanding my mse? i heard clavicular say ideally 1.5 mm per week

 

[soggra]

We shouldn't be encouraging young kids like this to give up and rot.
I will not in good conscience do this.
If you feed his neuroticisms, it will just get worse.

I never said for him to give up and rot. I was just saying that a MTN can still be an incel due to his looks not being enough for women

 

[soggra]

how much should i be expanding my mse? i heard clavicular say ideally 1.5 mm per week

It’s best to talk to your MSE provider about this. How wide is your palate right now? I’ve tried to get MSE but those Jew Orthos didn’t want to give it to me because I have a “normal” intermolar width of 40.8mm

 

[Snicket]

I never said for him to give up and rot. I was just saying that a MTN can still be an incel due to his looks not being enough for women

Bonemashing does not work.
You're promoting a bunch of falsehoods and telling him that his looks aren't good enough when they are completely adequate.
MTNs are average looking guys. You see them with gfs walking down the street everyday.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

1. Probably the twin block appliance but do it as early as possible before you turn 16 ideally
2. Yes

also isnt the pressure from herbst appliance in a backward force on the maxilla very subtle? because the whole point of it iis to move the mandible forward

 

[soggra]

Bonemashing does not work.
You're promoting a bunch of falsehoods and telling him that his looks aren't good enough when they are completely adequate.

Bonesmashing worked for me.

2. Go on tinder for example with a average face and you will get 0 results while HTNS+ have girls asking for their D

 

[soggra]

also isnt the pressure from herbst appliance in a backward force on the maxilla very subtle? because the whole point of it iis to move the mandible forward

No it’s not subtle. The force should be the same

 

[Snicket]

Bonesmashing worked for me.

It doesn't work. It's retarded shit with no medical evidence backing it up.

2. Go on tinder for example with a average face and you will get 0 results while HTNS+ have girls asking for their D

He's in high school. He doesn't need Tinder. He's got real life.
Most guys still meet girls through social circles. They do horribly on OLD but fine in the real world.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

It’s best to talk to your MSE provider about this. How wide is your palate right now? I’ve tried to get MSE but those Jew Orthos didn’t want to give it to me because I have a “normal” intermolar width of 40.8mm

im not really sure, but ppl said my fwhr is less then ideal, and its hard for me to breathe through. so ill assume its between 34-36 if u want i can send pic

 

[soggra]

It doesn't work. You have no proof.

He's in high school. He doesn't need Tinder. He's got real lie.

1. Wolfs law
2. You can easily larp 18 as a 15 year old on Tinder. And his looks aren’t enough for high school, at least this has been my experience

 

[soggra]

im not really sure, but ppl said my fwhr is less then ideal, and its hard for me to breathe through. so ill assume its between 34-36 if u want i can send pic

Yeah sure send it

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Yeah sure send it

probably a bit less then ideal, but still messes up my fwhr to the point where it’s a issue

 

[soggra]

View attachment 3588052 probably a bit less then ideal, but still messes up my fwhr to the point where it’s a issue

A bit less than ideal? It looks extremely narrow, I mean mine is pretty narrow and mine looks much wider than yours. In fact I have a palate expander in right now so I can get rid of this shit subhuman narrow palate. Here’s mine

 

[stufftodo]

erm guys, is this a flat maxilla or a forwardly grown one. i keep hearing mixed opinions, some say it’s flat, while others say it’s properly grown. (btw im very bloated in these pictures)

not recessed. slightly more forwardly grown than a flat maxilla

 

[Snicket]

1. Wolfs law

Wolf's Law is about applying a consistent weight load on bone mass at a given point. Not hitting your own face repeatedly.
Scientifically illiterate.

2. You can easily larp 18 as a 15 year old on Tinder. And his looks aren’t enough for high school, at least this has been my experience

You're fucking this kid's life up in addition to your own. Ultimately, it might be his choice but you're certainly making it easier for him.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

A bit less than ideal? It looks extremely narrow, I mean mine is pretty narrow and mine looks much wider than yours. In fact I have a palate expander in right now so I can get rid of this shit subhuman narrow palate. Here’s mine

did you buy this one of the internet? or did a ortho give u one

 

[soggra]

Wolf's Law is about applying a consistent weight load on a bone mass. Not hitting your face repeatedly.
Scientifically illiterate.

You're fucking this kid's life up in addition to your own. Ultimately, it might be his choice but you're certainly making it easier for him.

Dude I’m fucking up his life or is it the extremely high standards that women have? I’m just helping him so he becomes more desirable to women

 

[soggra]

did you buy this one of the internet? or did a ortho give u one

I bought it on the internet because the Jew orthos didn’t want to give it to me because they said my palate was “normal”

 

[Snicket]

Dude I’m fucking up his life or is it the extremely high standards that women have?

Go outside, school, college, walk down the street. Plenty of average looking guys with girlfriends.

I’m just helping him so he becomes more desirable to women

You're not helping him. You're leading the kid down a rabbit hole of treatments that don't work and won't do anyting.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

I bought it on the internet because the Jew orthos didn’t want to give it to me because they said my palate was “normal”

you recon if my ortho sees my palate he'll give me one? cuz a normal palate expander wont ascend me but mse will

 

[soggra]

Wolf's Law is about applying a consistent weight load on bone mass at a given point. Not hitting your own face repeatedly.
Scientifically illiterate.

You're fucking this kid's life up in addition to your own. Ultimately, it might be his choice but you're certainly making it easier for him.

I’m 6’0 KHHV because I am mtn. I’ve also seen so many MTN incels. Face is the most important for attracting women. I’m trying to help him attract women

 

[soggra]

Go outside, school, college, walk down the street. Plenty of average looking guys with girlfriends.


You're not helping him. You're leading the kid down a rabbit hole of treatments that don't work and won't do anyting.

And what did those average looking guys do to get that girlfriend? Betabuxx, or they asked out hundreds of girls before finding the one, etc

 

[Snicket]

I’m 6’0 KHHV because I am mtn. I’ve also seen so many MTN incels. Face is the most important for attracting women. I’m trying to help him attract women

No you're a 6ft KHHV because you rot in your room and don't do anything.
My 5ft 8 MTN friend lost his virginity at 16.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Go outside, school, college, walk down the street. Plenty of average looking guys with girlfriends.


You're not helping him. You're leading the kid down a rabbit hole of treatments that don't work and won't do anyting.

fixing my mandible will do ALOT for me, itll give me equal facial thirds, a wide jaw, a more pronounced jaw, anything to do with jaw and ill ascend