maximum amount of smv body halo can give?

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if it goes from skinny fat to muscular and lean how much can increase smv?
 
A little bit tbh, you don't need much muscle mass but you need muscle definition
 
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if anything it makes you worse because girls can sense that you want to compensate for your bad face
 
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if anything it makes you worse because girls can sense that you want to compensate for your bad face

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depends on face
 
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Like 1-3 points. It’s a face multiplier, high smv trait

zyzz went from 4/10-7/10

laid went from 6/10-8/10

@loox went from 4/10 -8/10

it’s stupid not too gymcel as it’s a huge boost is sex appeal
 
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All 3 mentioned have narrow bone structure and above average height so they went from being severely underweight for their height to being larger than 99% of the population

Some average height normie who can fill out a hoodie while being 18% bodyfat with no muscle wont look remarkably different if he gets to 12% bodyfat and maxes out natty gains

I am not saying this to discredit gymcelling but lanklets are probably the pinnacle of gymcel ascensions unless you want to count guys who went from normie size to Classic Physique competitors thanks to kgs of gear
Would disagree with this. Normie face and normie height and frame will still benefit as muscles are an attractive sexually dimorphism trait. Women view the body the same as men. Why would you want a disgusting looking infertile body while you could have a huge halo with good leaness and body (benefits face also being lean )
 
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Would disagree with this. Normie face and normie height and frame will still benefit as muscles are an attractive sexually dimorphism trait. Women view the body the same as men. Why would you want a disgusting looking infertile body while you could have a huge halo with good leaness and body (benefits face also being lean )
They will benefit from gymcelling but if they were having a lack of success with a body that is average for a non gymcel and therefore not classed as a failo then it wasn't their body that was holding them back

I am being overly aspie here for no particular reason
 
There's a 3psl brown guy at the gym who is about 5'10.5

He is roided up with tattoos.

He is easy 6.5/10 in Australia (between HTN and Chadlite).

Without roids he'd be a 4/10 max.
 
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Around 2-4 points if we consider the neck as well.
Things like thick forearm, wider shoulders add a lot of smv
 
gymcelling always works as long as you're not subhuman. being a looksmax that you can obtain without going through surgery theres no reason why you shouldnt gymcel except in the case of true subhumanity (because then it wouldnt make a difference)
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you only want to be lean with muscle mass not some hulk
 
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if anything it makes you worse because girls can sense that you want to compensate for your bad face
@volcelfatcel the excuses “””looksmaxxers”””” will give to just sit and rot on their ass
 
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if it goes from skinny fat to muscular and lean how much can increase smv?
Really depends on your frame. If you already have a decent one building muscle will be beneficial but not a huge difference. If you've got a small frame or are just really skinny it can make a huge difference but will take a while to get results.
 

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