Maybe not every chad has a perfect life...

[St. Wristcel]

Dolph Lundgren was abused and beaten by his father when he was young

 

[St. Wristcel]

@Gargantuan

 

[Deleted member 5656]

Incels are legit retarded. They are so myopic that they legitimately can’t understand that sexual attractiveness/dating isn’t the ONLY area of life where people can have problems. Even the biggest chad or a foid that incels deem as having it on “tutorial mode” because they can get sex Could’ve easily grown up poor as fuck living in cars, not having running water, or abused as fuck getting molested or raped as a kid. Some people on “tutorial mode” legit went through more trauma in their first few years of life than some incels have in 2 decades. I know a lot of dudes on incel forums wouldn’t be able to handle a fraction of the shit Meeks went through earlier in his life (Reminder his big break wasn’t until his 30s). Grass is always greener on the other side though.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Hitler was also beaten by his father

Makes a boy tough

 

[turkproducer]

Incels are legit retarded. They are so myopic that they legitimately can’t understand that sexual attractiveness/dating isn’t the ONLY area of life where people can have problems. Even the biggest chad or a foid that incels deem as having it on “tutorial mode” because they can get sex Could’ve easily grown up poor as fuck living in cars, not having running water, or abused as fuck getting molested or raped as a kid. Some people on “tutorial mode” legit went through more trauma in their first few years of life than some incels have in 2 decades. I know a lot of dudes on incel forums wouldn’t be able to handle a fraction of the shit Meeks went through earlier in his life (Reminder his big break wasn’t until his 30s). Grass is always greener on the other side though.

Such cope. Literally any scientific study say that bullies are more happy, taller, more attractive men are infinitely times more happy

your own parents love you more when you’re better looking

now i do agree being a sub chad is not the only grievance in life, but most of the time chad and stacy come from well adjusted functional families and incels come from fatherless broken homes

 

[Deleted member 10949]

Hitler was also beaten by his father

Makes a boy tough

I agree

what doesnt kill u just makes u stronger maybe

 

[volcelfatcel]

Gandy got bullied in school for having a shit nose, fat and started puberty late Khhv until 21 supposedly.

Hernan Drago also bullied for being fat and starting puberty late

Sean o'Pry was rejected by a girl in prom

Henry Cavill also got bullied in school for being fat and starting puberty late

 

[Deleted member 5656]

Such cope. Literally any scientific study say that bullies are more happy, taller, more attractive men are infinitely times more happy

your own parents love you more when you’re better looking

now i do agree being a sub chad is not the only grievance in life, but most of the time chad and stacy come from well adjusted functional families and incels come from fatherless broken homes

So? I didn’t say being a bully makes someone shorter and sadder and uglier. I’m saying in spite of the happiness caused by Sexual attractiveness there could easily be other fucked up shit that offsets it. This is exactly the kind of myopic view I’m talking about, use a buzzword like “cope”, followed by arguing against a point I wasn’t even making, using evidence that only applies to one part of the spectrum. I’m not talking about rich wasp chads from good families, I’m talking about attractive people from fucked up backgrounds

 

[turkproducer]

So? I didn’t say being a bully makes someone shorter and sadder and uglier. I’m saying in spite of the happiness caused by Sexual attractiveness there could easily be other fucked up shit that offsets it. This is exactly the kind of myopic view I’m talking about, use a buzzword like “cope”, followed by arguing against a point I wasn’t even making, using evidence that only applies to one part of the spectrum. I’m not talking about rich wasp chads from good families, I’m talking about attractive people from fucked up backgrounds

there almost no attractive people from truly fucked up backgrounds

jfl if you think david gandy was really bullied etc

and yes i acknowledged that other factors affect life, but they are largely insignificant in comparison to your genetics

 

[Deleted member 5656]

Gandy got bullied in school for having a shit nose, fat and started puberty late Khhv until 21 supposedly.

Hernan Drago also bullied for being fat and starting puberty late

Sean o'Pry was rejected by a girl in prom

Henry Cavill also got bullied in school for being fat and starting puberty late

Legit, I remember on that Argentinian show that drago hosts on one episode they Were talking about childhood bullying and he began tearing up talking about his childhood experiences. Gandy has also admitted to being shy, which you can tell by His mannerisms in a lot of his interviews, and he said something along the lines of “when I look in the mirror I see a chubby little boy with a big nose”

 

[volcelfatcel]

Legit, I remember on that Argentinian show that drago hosts on one episode they Were talking about childhood bullying and he began tearing up talking about his childhood experiences. Gandy has also admitted to being shy, which you can tell by His mannerisms in a lot of his interviews, and he said something along the lines of “when I look in the mirror I see a chubby little boy with a big nose”

Drago is omega blackpilled I watched his Spanish interview and understood. He said that people treated me badly for being fat and not having the bones. Then people treated me better once I got into modeling and these people ask to hang out with me because I have abs, face and money.

Gandy has aspie mannerisms, he got bullied hard as fuck there's no yearbook picture of him in school actually no photo prior to 21, not a singular recorded pic brutal tbh.

Bad teenage years will affect even top 0.1% genetical specimens

 

[Deleted member 5656]

there almost no attractive people from truly fucked up backgrounds

jfl if you think david gandy was really bullied etc

and yes i acknowledged that other factors affect life, but they are largely insignificant in comparison to your genetics

That’s just broscience. Being born with high t and a nice face doesn’t even remotely exempt one from having shitty parents with an absent dad and street whore mother. Being born a chinless dork doesn’t even remotely exempt one from having rich suburban parents

 

[Deleted member 5656]

Drago is omega blackpilled I watched his Spanish interview and understood. He said that people treated me badly for being fat and not having the bones. Then people treated me better once I got into modeling and these people ask to hang out with me because I have abs, face and money.

Gandy has aspie mannerisms, he got bullied hard as fuck there's no yearbook picture of him in school actually no photo prior to 21, not a singular recorded pic brutal tbh.

Bad teenage years will affect even top 0.1% genetical specimens

Yeah, people don’t realize shit that happens that fucks you up psychologically in your developmental years will have a lasting effect for your entire life

 

[volcelfatcel]

Yeah, people don’t realize shit that happens that fucks you up psychologically in your developmental years will have a lasting effect for your entire life

Drago is brutal you'd expect him to be a giga Chad stoic guy. But he cried in that interview shit is traumatic as a teen because nothing he did was in his control, he started puberty late and lost weight because people harassed him. He might be the most blackpilled model of all time because he actually experienced the blackpill

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Incels are legit retarded. They are so myopic that they legitimately can’t understand that sexual attractiveness/dating isn’t the ONLY area of life where people can have problems. Even the biggest chad or a foid that incels deem as having it on “tutorial mode” because they can get sex Could’ve easily grown up poor as fuck living in cars, not having running water, or abused as fuck getting molested or raped as a kid. Some people on “tutorial mode” legit went through more trauma in their first few years of life than some incels have in 2 decades. I know a lot of dudes on incel forums wouldn’t be able to handle a fraction of the shit Meeks went through earlier in his life (Reminder his big break wasn’t until his 30s). Grass is always greener on the other side though.

except dolph can grow up to beat his father back. a framelet incel wont even get that chance

 

[Deleted member 5656]

except dolph can grow up to beat his father back. a framelet incel wont even get that chance

Wait until your dad gets old and geriatric and beat the shit out of him.

 

[Deleted member 6305]

Just listen to a gigachad talk how he suffered jfl

 

[Beetlejuice]

 

[Deleted member 7029]

jfl try to find a celebrity who wasn't abused, bullied or doesn't have "depression". virtue signaling and attention whoring 90% of the time

 

[R@m@]

Well thinking that being chad is a guaranteed perfect life is low iq, high autism

 

[Deleted member 6873]

there almost no attractive people from truly fucked up backgrounds

jfl if you think david gandy was really bullied etc

and yes i acknowledged that other factors affect life, but they are largely insignificant in comparison to your genetics

Kurt Cobain, Chris Cornell

 

[Warlow]

Yeah, people don’t realize shit that happens that fucks you up psychologically in your developmental years will have a lasting effect for your entire life

icnels have fucked up developmental years from being at the mercy of bullies and taunted for things out of their control. And unlike a chad who was tormented and isolated like an incel would be in those key years, the grass isn't any greener, things don't get any better.

Notice how all the chad's you mentioned: Gandy, drago, meeks, were subject to bullying and ridicule or shitty home lives and still made it out on top.

Being a chad doesn't automatically equal easy life, it just means you have the tools at your disposable to create an easy life.

If you are ugly, there is no halo effect for you to jump onto when the going get's tough, you are fucked. So all those chads with shitty home lives can cry me a river, being ugly is the biggest psychological torture a person can go through, you are with no group. There is no one willing to accept you

 

[owlofathena]

icnels have fucked up developmental years from being at the mercy of bullies and taunted for things out of their control. And unlike a chad who was tormented and isolated like an incel would be in those key years, the grass isn't any greener, things don't get any better.

Notice how all the chad's you mentioned: Gandy, drago, meeks, were subject to bullying and ridicule or shitty home lives and still made it out on top.

Being a chad doesn't automatically equal easy life, it just means you have the tools at your disposable to create an easy life.

If you are ugly, there is no halo effect for you to jump onto when the going get's tough, you are fucked. So all those chads with shitty home lives can cry me a river, being ugly is the biggest psychological torture a person can go through, you are with no group. There is no one willing to accept you

Even being average or slightly above average can be torture

 

[owlofathena]

icnels have fucked up developmental years from being at the mercy of bullies and taunted for things out of their control. And unlike a chad who was tormented and isolated like an incel would be in those key years, the grass isn't any greener, things don't get any better.

Notice how all the chad's you mentioned: Gandy, drago, meeks, were subject to bullying and ridicule or shitty home lives and still made it out on top.

Being a chad doesn't automatically equal easy life, it just means you have the tools at your disposable to create an easy life.

If you are ugly, there is no halo effect for you to jump onto when the going get's tough, you are fucked. So all those chads with shitty home lives can cry me a river, being ugly is the biggest psychological torture a person can go through, you are with no group. There is no one willing to accept you

Are you actually from Isle of Man?

 

[Warlow]

Even being average or slightly average can be torture

exactly right. Average men can suffer too, but their road to ascension is easier than someone below-average.

Are you actually from Isle of Man?

Nah i'm from the US bro, I just liked the name lol.

 

[owlofathena]

exactly right. Average men can suffer too, but their road to ascension is easier than someone below-average.

Nah i'm from the US bro, I just liked the name lol.

East or West? And what race? I am from Scotland Glasgow

 

[Deleted member 5656]

icnels have fucked up developmental years from being at the mercy of bullies and taunted for things out of their control. And unlike a chad who was tormented and isolated like an incel would be in those key years, the grass isn't any greener, things don't get any better.

Notice how all the chad's you mentioned: Gandy, drago, meeks, were subject to bullying and ridicule or shitty home lives and still made it out on top.

Being a chad doesn't automatically equal easy life, it just means you have the tools at your disposable to create an easy life.

If you are ugly, there is no halo effect for you to jump onto when the going get's tough, you are fucked. So all those chads with shitty home lives can cry me a river, being ugly is the biggest psychological torture a person can go through, you are with no group. There is no one willing to accept you

I disagree. For every Gandy, drago, and Meeks there are millions of chads who aren’t famous millionaires because of their looks. Of course incels will have a hard time with bullying or rejection but being ugly is not the biggest psychological torture. I guarantee a chad child molestation victim or a chad who grew up watching people get butchered in the favelas has much more experience with “psychological torture” than a guy who’s worst problem is ugliness

 

[Warlow]

East or West? And what race? I am from Scotland Glasgow

Like midwest, and I'm black. I might PM you my face some time

 

[Warlow]

I disagree. For every Gandy, drago, and Meeks there are millions of chads who aren’t famous millionaires because of their looks. Of course incels will have a hard time with bullying or rejection but being ugly is not the biggest psychological torture. I guarantee a chad child molestation victim or a chad who grew up watching people get butchered in the favelas has much more experience with “psychological torture” than a guy who’s worst problem is ugliness

you are not listening man. I don't disagree the experience that chad had to suffer is terrible, I'm just saying there are resources at his disposal on the grounds of having a good face. People are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, he can be accepted by a group, he will not suffer the damaging effects of isolation like some incel would have to.

And most people born in shit environments are incel, better conditions equals optimal development equals better looking people more times than not.

There is nothing worse than isolation, no torture mogs that, why do you think solitary confinement exists? It's to break the wills and minds of men. For when you have lost that, you have lost everything

 

[Deleted member 5656]

you are not listening man. I don't disagree the experience that chad had to suffer is terrible, I'm just saying there are resources at his disposal on the grounds of having a good face. People are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, he can be accepted by a group, he will not suffer the damaging effects of isolation like some incel would have to.

And most people born in shit environments are incel, better conditions equals optimal development equals better looking people more times than not.

There is nothing worse than isolation, no torture mogs that, why do you think solitary confinement exists? It's to break the wills and minds of men. For when you have lost that, you have lost everything

Having a good face is better than not having one but if someone is from truly shit conditions then it is not nearly going to fix their problems. Look at all the dudes from favela like conditions have good faces, sure they might have friends and be able to fuck the local whore but that doesn’t make life easy with no running water and having to worry about being beheaded just for trying to survive

And most people born in shit conditions are absolutely not incels. The vast majority of incels are from wealthy first world countries. You are confusing inceldom with lack of development. Inceldom is based off of relativity. One is incel if they are relatively unattractive compared to those around them. Hence why a guy who could do fine in Dravidian India would be incel in America, or a white dude who gets nothing in America could get laid in India. And in shit environments everyone is below their genetic potential, even the best looking ones, so the relativity is still the same, but the inceldom is even less common. This is why in shit environments like subsaharan Africa where people are well below their genetic potential, pretty much anyone can get laid to the point where they are breeding like rats. But in countries where people have all the resources to develop to their full potential, there are way more incels. This is why countries like Japan and the US have way more incels than third world countries.

And yes solitary confinement is horrible but social isolation is nowhere near true solitary confinement. I maintain my position that there are things much worse so we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Lonely nerds from first world countries can cry me a river when chadriguez is getting painfully beheaded by the cartel because he sold drugs just to try and not to starve to death

 

[Philtrumcel]

Incels are legit retarded. They are so myopic that they legitimately can’t understand that sexual attractiveness/dating isn’t the ONLY area of life where people can have problems. Even the biggest chad or a foid that incels deem as having it on “tutorial mode” because they can get sex Could’ve easily grown up poor as fuck living in cars, not having running water, or abused as fuck getting molested or raped as a kid. Some people on “tutorial mode” legit went through more trauma in their first few years of life than some incels have in 2 decades. I know a lot of dudes on incel forums wouldn’t be able to handle a fraction of the shit Meeks went through earlier in his life (Reminder his big break wasn’t until his 30s). Grass is always greener on the other side though.

What was Meeks trauma?

 

[Deleted member 5656]

What was Meeks trauma?

Stereotypical absent black father and poor af hood white mother, dude definitely got abused and neglected as a kid as everyone from that scenario does

plus unless ur a genius your not getting any legitimate career opportunities from there And obviously Meeks is low iq so he ended up getting into a life of crime and I’m sure icing niggas is very traumatizing, of course all that was him being a scumbag so I feel no sympathy for him on that part but objectively stuff like that does fuck people up in the head even further

 

[Warlow]

Having a good face is better than not having one but if someone is from truly shit conditions then it is not nearly going to fix their problems. Look at all the dudes from favela like conditions have good faces, sure they might have friends and be able to fuck the local whore but that doesn’t make life easy with no running water and having to worry about being beheaded just for trying to survive

And most people born in shit conditions are absolutely not incels. The vast majority of incels are from wealthy first world countries. You are confusing inceldom with lack of development. Inceldom is based off of relativity. One is incel if they are relatively unattractive compared to those around them. Hence why a guy who could do fine in Dravidian India would be incel in America, or a white dude who gets nothing in America could get laid in India. And in shit environments everyone is below their genetic potential, even the best looking ones, so the relativity is still the same, but the inceldom is even less common. This is why in shit environments like subsaharan Africa where people are well below their genetic potential, pretty much anyone can get laid to the point where they are breeding like rats. But in countries where people have all the resources to develop to their full potential, there are way more incels. This is why countries like Japan and the US have way more incels than third world countries.

And yes solitary confinement is horrible but social isolation is nowhere near true solitary confinement. I maintain my position that there are things much worse so we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Lonely nerds from first world countries can cry me a river when chadriguez is getting painfully beheaded by the cartel because he sold drugs just to try and not to starve to death

You write like a chad or chadlite so honestly I don't believe you can empathize or realize the struggles of the average joe or a below-average guy for that matter tbh.

You dismiss this isolation point as "Sure a chad might have friends and some bitches to fuck but so what?" Intimacy is probably the most valuable thing you can acquire from someone. Honestly would you rather be a chad in southside chicago with plenty of friends and girls who fuck with him or a permavirgin, living in solitude incel in western europe? You and I would both pick option A.

I mentioned optimal development as working in most cases, I don't deem it the end all be all. Also while countires like Japan are capable of providing numerous resources for it's people, that doesn't mean shit when most of their population are social recluses who spend more time playing vidya in their youth than playing sports or exercising like some young tyrone in a shitty african nation.

Social isolation is on par with solitary confinement, your mental health is tanking significantly in both cases. And you're pretty much slowly dying with no one there to care for you or even acknowledge you. To the chadriguez who get's butchered, RIP. But a quick death living in the fast lane with people there to give you dopamine mogs the isolated truecel.

We won't agree on this topic. I don't feel much empathy for genetically superior men

 

[Deleted member 5656]

What was Meeks trauma?

Looked up his bio just now, apparently his parents were heroin addicts so he was born addicted and his dad went to prison for murder/rape

'Hot Felon' Jeremy Meeks talks about 'very dark' childhood with heroin-addicted mom and rapist-murderer dad

Meeks' mother was addicted to heroin when he was born and his father was arrested for murdering his mother's best friend

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Weiterleitungshinweis

After his big break with the modeling contract I would say his life definitely paid off and is much better than an incels from a normal upbringing, but the 30 some years before that I believe incel has it easier no contest. And Meeks is lucky even amongst slayers, think about the vast number of high smv Gigatyrones/gigachads from the hood who have backgrounds like that (there’s a fuckton) most of them don’t get a big break like that and become a millionaire, most of them are still in the hood

 

[Deleted member 5656]

You write like a chad or chadlite so honestly I don't believe you can empathize or realize the struggles of the average joe or a below-average guy for that matter tbh.

I have seen just as much isolation and loneliness as many others on forums like this, why do you think I post here 24/7? Average joes have absolutely had a much better run than me, and trust me I have personally experienced the struggles of the lowest of the low.

You dismiss this isolation point as "Sure a chad might have friends and some bitches to fuck but so what?" Intimacy is probably the most valuable thing you can acquire from someone. Honestly would you rather be a chad in southside chicago with plenty of friends and girls who fuck with him or a permavirgin, living in solitude incel in western europe? You and I would both pick option A.

Hell yeah im gonna dismiss chad’s friends and whores as “so what” when his life is shit in every other way. I’m not talking about a wasp chad from Vermont, I’m talking about dudes in the worst conditions. It’s easy to say intimacy is most important when you have your other needs met, but I firmly believe that intimacy only becomes most important when the base tiers in maslow’s hierarchy of needs have already been met, and those needs have absolutely not been met for the guys I’m talking about so hell yeah im gonna say “so what” to the pussy and friends when the lonely guy has his more base needs met.

These third world tenement type of chads I’m describing are the types of people who don’t even know where their next meal is coming from or if they’re even gonna get it, and they don’t even know if they’ll have shelter for the night. And they sure as hell won’t have any personal security when they’re constantly having to look over their shoulder to not get killed. This chart explains why I think the incel with the base life needs met has it easier.

I mentioned optimal development as working in most cases, I don't deem it the end all be all. Also while countires like Japan are capable of providing numerous resources for it's people, that doesn't mean shit when most of their population are social recluses who spend more time playing vidya in their youth than playing sports or exercising like some young tyrone in a shitty african nation.

Well there we go, you know that being from a shit environment can easily manifest chads and tyrones while being from a first world environment can manifest subhumans

Social isolation is on par with solitary confinement, your mental health is tanking significantly in both cases. And you're pretty much slowly dying with no one there to care for you or even acknowledge you. To the chadriguez who get's butchered, RIP. But a quick death living in the fast lane with people there to give you dopamine mogs the isolated truecel.

It is nowhere near on par with solitary confinement. If solitary confinement is nfl football, then social isolation is first grade peewee leagues. I have experienced it and it sucks, but I know that someone in true solitary confinement is experiencing it far worse than I ever have, and I’m not gonna piggyback off their suffering that I haven’t even experienced just so I can feel worse for myself. that chart I posted earlier quantifies my feelings on this matter perfectly and I think the opposite of you, that chad who lived in the fast lane in the slums and got beheaded has it much worse than the first world lonely guy because the chad didn’t even have his basic needs met while the other guy did.

We won't agree on this topic. I don't feel much empathy for genetically superior me

Correct, we will have to agree to disagree like I said. I would like to say I don’t feel much empathy for those who withhold empathy for others’ suffering simply due to having it better in separate areas, but I still do. I hope your looks and life get better and you get a cute gf. But ok

 

[pizza]

jfl try to find a celebrity who wasn't abused, bullied or doesn't have "depression". virtue signaling and attention whoring 90% of the time

mk ultra