men with micros is proof that if god exists he must be evil and cruel

[Shrek2OnDvD]

We were talking about western women, and then you provide a source written by a MENA guy.

my point is that all women regardless of birth place want a man who can please them. this is not up for debate. even devout salafi women make dua for such a husband and she has the right to divorce him if she cannot enjoy him

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

my point is that all women regardless of birth place want a man who can please them. this is not up for debate. even devout salafi women make dua for such a husband and she has the right to divorce him if she cannot enjoy him

Your point is wrong. Those women are still western women. Just because they are “devout” Salafists doesn’t mean they’re automatically not western. Western women doesn’t only apply to just white women, it’s all women that grew up in the west, or adapted a western mindset if they migrated.

 

[LXR]

All dicks below 9×7 are clits

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

They're not good. They didn't come from God. God allowed it though, which was good because it glorifies Him.

they didn’t come from god? then where did they come from? do you believe god created everything?

why would he allow it knowing how much pointless suffering he would inflict on such a person? does this seem like a loving and merciful god to you?

how do genetic deformities glorify him and was there no other way to do that besides allowing deformities?

 

[Wasted time]

someone who inflicts suffering, even if temporary, just to reward them after is not a good person. that is a cruel person

Not true at all. For example if you slap your child when he is touching something dangerous you do that to prevent him from injuring himself by inflicting pain(when he is 4 he doesn't have the mental capacity for you to explain with words so you lightly slap him so he can link this bad act to pain). Does that make it not right? If you take the drugs of a drug addict and lock him, you inflict pain but for the greater good. When you exercise you inflict pain on yourself but again for a positive result.

you don’t choose to stay away from god. you cannot choose to be convinced of something. if god is reasonable to you, you will probably keep believing. if god is a fairytale for you, you will probably never believe

You choose that. Most choose to stay away from him so they can keep doing the things that the religion tells you not to do. They need a way to cope.

it’s not a choice

How so?

and accusing others of not seeking god is just another form of victim blaming. why don’t we address the elephant in the room?

Well how is it victim blaming when it's just the harsh truth. If they had faith they wouldn't have roped. Depression is the loss of hope and faith.

 

[LXR]

Jfl at the absolute size doesnt matter copium. Somehow size doesnt matter but humans ended up having the thickest dongs amongst all apes and the only other ape cousin with our length is a chimp. If you have ever seen a chimp, his is a pencil dick. Somehow we ended up big without size mattering though. Just like male elks ended up with big antlers

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Jfl at the absolute size doesnt matter copium. Somehow size doesnt matter but humans ended up having the thickest dongs amongst all apes and the only other ape cousin with our length is a chimp. If you have ever seen a chimp, his is a pencil dick. Somehow we ended up big without size mattering though. Just like male elks ended up with big antlers

a lot of them deny evolution (in the big 26 btw) so this point would fall on deaf ears

 

[Lefty Rankin]

they didn’t come from god? then where did they come from? do you believe god created everything?

why would he allow it knowing how much pointless suffering he would inflict on such a person? does this seem like a loving and merciful god to you?

how do genetic deformities glorify him and was there no other way to do that besides allowing deformities?

Did He create astro propulsion?

God created a lot of things. He created a lot of beings.

Sickness, affliction, and confusion all come from fallen beings that ultimately seek to destroy us. God removed His protection from the wiles of these beings as a judgement for our disobedience to Him.

Exodus 34: 6-7

"And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Did He create astro propulsion?

God created a lot of things. He created a lot of beings.

Sickness, affliction, and confusion all come from fallen beings that ultimately seek to destroy us. God removed His protection from the wiles of these beings as a judgement for our disobedience to Him.

Exodus 34: 6-7

"And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."

Indeed, only good things come from God.

Mirin, an atheist is bringing together a Christian and a Muslim.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Not true at all. For example if you slap your child when he is touching something dangerous you do that to prevent him from injuring himself by inflicting pain(when he is 4 he doesn't have the mental capacity for you to explain with words so you lightly slap him so he can link this bad act to pain). Does that make it not right? If you take the drugs of a drug addict and lock him, you inflict pain but for the greater good. When you exercise you inflict pain on yourself but again for a positive result.

thanks for the reminder. i agree that certain types of suffering is sometimes necessary if it’s for a greater good. im not against a child getting a vaccine just because the needle might poke the skin and cause suffering because i understand the vaccine would be of a much greater benefit than the temporary lesser pain

You choose that. Most choose to stay away from him so they can keep doing the things that the religion tells you not to do. They need a way to cope.

How so?

we believe what we believe because of evidence, experiences, personal qualities, inclinations, and our natural convictions

i agree that some aspects of belief such a analysing evidence and studying can be a choice

but i cannot choose to believe that i am a 7ft rich gigachad right now because i am not convinced of it. i can try and pretend but that would not be sincere

same reason i don’t believe in yahweh. not because i voluntarily choose not to, but because i am not convinced of the claims put forth about this deity

Well how is it victim blaming when it's just the harsh truth. If they had faith they wouldn't have roped. Depression is the loss of hope and faith.

it’s victim blaming precisely because you blame an individual for the crime of not being convinced of a claim, that his rational mind cannot be persuaded of

instead of acknowledging the insanity of treating non belief as a crime. the person is not messed up, the standards are

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Indeed, only good things come from God.

Mirin, an atheist is bringing together a Christian and a Muslim.

i really do admire and respect you

but please let’s not be ridiculous. you can’t honestly tell me a genital deformity has no bearing on a man’s personal life

there are plenty of questions on islamQ&A about this, even on the arabic (اسلام سوال و جواب)

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Did He create astro propulsion?

God created a lot of things. He created a lot of beings.

Sickness, affliction, and confusion all come from fallen beings that ultimately seek to destroy us. God removed His protection from the wiles of these beings as a judgement for our disobedience to Him.

do u believe humans today are being punished for what Adam and Eve did? if so why do you think collective punishment is just?

why would god even care nor need our obedience? If god was so petty as to allow such inexcusable harm for the simple act of defiance then that says more about him then it says about us

if my son disobeyed me i would be disappointed in him and try to change his ways, but i would not let him get hit by a truck or suffer an excruciating disease. the punishment he inflicted is too extreme

Exodus 34: 6-7

"And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."

 

[Wasted time]

thanks for the reminder. i agree that certain types of suffering is sometimes necessary if it’s for a greater good. im not against a child getting a vaccine just because the needle might poke the skin and cause suffering because i understand the vaccine would be of a much greater benefit than the temporary lesser pain

So you agree with me on that.

we believe what we believe because of evidence, experiences, personal qualities, inclinations, and our natural convictions

Which are taken into consideration

i agree that some aspects of belief such a analysing evidence and studying can be a choice

Well most people have access to that so this is a choice yeah.

but i cannot choose to believe that i am a 7ft rich gigachad right now because i am not convinced of it. i can try and pretend but that would not be sincere

Well you believe something that has clear proof that is not true is called delusion. There is no proof that god doesn't exist. It's impossible to be proved.

same reason i don’t believe in yahweh. not because i voluntarily choose not to, but because i am not convinced of the claims put forth about this deity

What are the claims you have heard about it?

it’s victim blaming precisely because you blame an individual for the crime of not being convinced of a claim, that his rational mind cannot be persuaded of

I am simply telling you the reason they roped. Whether their choice of not believing is fully their fault and should be punished is up to God to decide. Also most people as I said choose not believe because the belief goes against their love for sin

instead of acknowledging the insanity of treating non belief as a crime. the person is not messed up, the standards are

Well if he believed he wouldn't have roped. So it is partly his fault. Not entirely.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

lieve humans today are being punished for what Adam and Eve did? if so why do you think collective punishment is just?

why would god even care nor need our obedience? If god was so petty as to allow such inexcusable harm for the simple act of defiance then that says more about him then it says about us

if my son disobeyed me i would be disappointed in him and try to change his ways, but i would not let him get hit by a truck or suffer an excruciating disease. the punishment he inflicted is too extreme

Obviously we die right? So yes we're being punished for Adam and Eve. It's just because God said it is, and He's God, so how could it not be just?

God doesn't need our obedience. But He cares for it because He's God, and disobedience to such a being can only be more ugly than any of us can fathom.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

So you agree with me on that.

yes

Which are taken into consideration

Well most people have access to that so this is a choice yeah.

sure

Well you believe something that has clear proof that is not true is called delusion. There is no proof that god doesn't exist. It's impossible to be proved.

can you choose to believe the building ur in is going to collapse in 1 minute? go ahead please. choose right now to believe this

What are the claims you have heard about it?

there is no clear obvious proof of yahwehs existence

I am simply telling you the reason they roped. Whether their choice of not believing is fully their fault and should be punished is up to God to decide. Also most people as I said choose not believe because the belief goes against their love for sin

Well if he believed he wouldn't have roped. So it is partly his fault. Not entirely.

that is absolutely crazy. to punish someone for not being convinced is such an absurdity and to claim this is from a benevolent deity

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Obviously we die right? So yes we're being punished for Adam and Eve. It's just because God said it is, and He's God, so how could it not be just?

God doesn't need our obedience. But He cares for it because He's God, and disobedience to such a being can only be more ugly than any of us can fathom.

why is collective punishment fair to you? besides “daddy said so”

is it just to punish someone for a crime they never committed?

you’re typing but not actually saying anything besides running around in circles claiming “because god said so” (this isn’t a reason btw)

 

[grav]

no way you worship a deity that gives out micros to men one by one. a fate worse than death

absolutely diabolical

Imagine having to manually create every animal to ever live and they all have to be somewhat unique while looking like their parents

 

[Lefty Rankin]

why is collective punishment fair to you? besides “daddy said so”

is it just to punish someone for a crime they never committed?

you’re typing but not actually saying anything besides running around in circles claiming “because god said so” (this isn’t a reason btw)

Because if he's God then what does our opinion matter?

 

[Wasted time]

can you choose to believe the building ur in is going to collapse in 1 minute? go ahead please. choose right now to believe this

I don't quite understand you here. Explain further please.

there is no clear obvious proof of yahwehs existence

That is true. That's why it's called a belief.

that is absolutely crazy. to punish someone for not being convinced is such an absurdity and to claim this is from a benevolent deity

You are not exactly punished because you don't believe. You are punished for your sins. We are all sinful and deserve punishment. Faith saves you from this.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Because if he's God then what does our opinion matter?

so like a spiritual North Korea then? how beautiful

humans have minds and the ability to critically think. handing over your mental faculties to an archaic book of superstition is not just silly but dangerous

if you think god gave you a brain, why don’t u use it?

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

I don't quite understand you here. Explain further please.

there was an atheist livestream with a christian caller who tried to argue that belief was a choice

the atheist asked the caller that if belief is a choice, why doesn’t he choose to believe that the building he was in was going to collapse within a minute

the christian accepted and said of course!

so they waited a minute. when the atheist asked the christian if he was still in the building. the christian said yes

the atheist responded “so you literally just proved that belief is not a choice. had you actually believed that the building was going to collapse you would run away and go outside. the fact that you’re still in the building proves that ur not convinced of my claim, therefore you couldn’t bring yourself to truly believe my claim”

That is true. That's why it's called a belief.


You are not exactly punished because you don't believe. You are punished for your sins. We are all sinful and deserve punishment. Believing saves you from this.

not being convinced is a sin however

 

[Wasted time]

there was an atheist livestream with a christian caller who tried to argue that belief was a choice

the atheist asked the caller that if belief is a choice, why doesn’t he choose to believe that the building he was in was going to collapse within a minute

the christian accepted and said of course!

so they waited a minute. when the atheist asked the christian if he was still in the building. the christian said yes

the atheist responded “so you literally just proved that belief is not a choice. had you actually believed that the building was going to collapse you would run away and go outside. the fact that you’re still in the building proves that ur not convinced of my claim, therefore you couldn’t bring yourself to truly believe my claim”

I still find this argument weird. But whatever. The Christian just obviously didn't believe that building was going to collapse. Saying you believe something doesn't mean you actually do. If I still haven't understood your point then I'm sorry.

not being convinced is a sin however

Sin is something that stops you from going to heaven and is bad for your soul and body. Not believing means that you don't accept God's mercy and without it you can't be saved. That's because without him everyone objectively deserves punishment

 

[Lefty Rankin]

so like a spiritual North Korea then? how beautiful

humans have minds and the ability to critically think. handing over your mental faculties to an archaic book of superstition is not just silly but dangerous

if you think god gave you a brain, why don’t u use it?

I am using it. If God is Almighty then how could any opinion against anything He says possibly have any measure of truth or merit?

Did you use your brain when you typed that question? Have you put yourself in the shoes of someone who believes? I could understand you asking if I'm using my brain because I believe in God? But not because I believe he can only ever be right.

Yes a complete dictatorship, but nothing like North Korea. You're comparing apples to oranges with your carnal mind.

 

[Askinov]

no way you worship a deity that gives out micros to men one by one. a fate worse than death

absolutely diabolical

i don't think i need to bring god but god does not gaf he does it for sake of doing and do it for his fun and it is in cycle i learned it from my religion what do you think a nigga who destroys universe and create new universe whenever he want will gaf about us ? leaving aside god exists or not that's a diff topic i mean it is funny isn't it ?

 

[Bars]

your bullshit belief in human rights is nothing different from believing in some super duper hyper puper all knowing all raping all mogging god in sky

 

[Bars]

thanks for the reminder. i agree that certain types of suffering is sometimes necessary if it’s for a greater good. im not against a child getting a vaccine just because the needle might poke the skin and cause suffering because i understand the vaccine would be of a much greater benefit than the temporary lesser pain

In this case suffering is just a side effect on the path to some goal. Suffering is neither good nor bad it's a reaction to stress but there are people who glorify it and suffer for the sake of suffering itself

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

I still find this argument weird. But whatever. The Christian just obviously didn't believe that building was going to collapse. Saying you believe something doesn't mean you actually do. If I still haven't understood your point then I'm sorry.

i think this video will help you better understand

Sin is something that stops you from going to heaven and is bad for your soul and body. Not believing means that you don't accept God's mercy and without it you can't be saved. That's because without him everyone objectively deserves punishment

nobody deserves to burn in a lake of eternal fire for non belief. how is this mentality any different to something like isis?

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

I am using it. If God is Almighty then how could any opinion against anything He says possibly have any measure of truth or merit?

Did you use your brain when you typed that question? Have you put yourself in the shoes of someone who believes? I could understand you asking if I'm using my brain because I believe in God? But not because I believe he can only ever be right.

Yes a complete dictatorship, but nothing like North Korea. You're comparing apples to oranges with your carnal mind.

so this is what it sounds like when someone has suspended all critical thinking and reason? incredible

insane how you typed all of this and genuinely did not see a single issue or hesitate to reconsider your ideas

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

In this case suffering is just a side effect on the path to some goal. Suffering is neither good nor bad it's a reaction to stress but there are people who glorify it and suffer for the sake of suffering itself

i don’t agree with unnecessary suffering. a tree falling on a deer in the woods and crushing the deer is not a wilful nor necessary act

 

[Bars]

i don’t agree with unnecessary suffering. a tree falling on a deer in the woods and crushing the deer is not a wilful nor necessary act

Well that's an accident. I mean suffering voluntarily for the sake of it

 

[Wasted time]

i think this video will help you better understand

He is saying that you didn't choose the events in your life that constructed your beliefs. That is true. But taking action to see better evidence of the other side of the coin is in your hands.

nobody deserves to burn in a lake of eternal fire for non belief.

This is just how it is when god is absent. Hell is a place with the absence of god

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

He is saying that you didn't choose the events in your life that constructed your beliefs. That is true. But taking action to see better evidence of the other side of the coin is in your hands.

This is just how it is when god is absent. Hell is a place with the absence of god

and if have taken action but yet to find anything convincing?

 

[g4rlic]

micros is the least of genetic failos, think about people born with severe facial and body deformities, over before they had a chance

no micro is pretty evil.

 

[Wasted time]

and if have taken action but yet to find anything convincing?

Well you are still alive, so I hope you find the right answer. If you want you can just say "God if you are real show yourself to me and let me understand you". I don't know what other advice I can give you bro.