mental health is genetics only

[kurd]

it’s genetics.

Look at depression. There are studies showing if your parent has it, your risk is two to three times higher. Same with bipolar disorder twin studies literally show that if one identical twin has it, the other has about a 70% chance too. That’s not just “bad vibes” or “negative thinking.” That’s DNA coding your brain chemistry.

Even anxiety disorders line up this way. Whole families deal with panic attacks or OCD, and it’s not because they all grew up watching the same TikToks. It’s hereditary. Schizophrenia? Same thing 1% chance in the general population, but if your sibling has it, that jumps to 10%.

People love saying “just go outside” or “fix your mindset.” Sure, lifestyle can make symptoms worse or better, but the foundation is already written into your body. You can’t out run serotonin imbalances or dopamine receptor issues if they’re literally built into you.

So yeah, mental health isn’t some choice or “weakness.” It’s not you being broken. It’s you being born with a brain wired a certain way. Same as how you inherit eye color or height you inherit your likelihood of depression, ADHD, or bipolar. That’s the part people ignore because it’s uncomfortable

BUT BUT, IT CAN BE DUE TO ENVIRONMENT ASWELL?

If mental health was just about environment, then everyone who grew up in poverty would be depressed, and everyone with traumatic childhoods would end up with anxiety disorders. But that’s not the case. Some people go through the worst possible situations and still come out resilient. Meanwhile, others have stable families, good schools, plenty of money and still develop depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia. The difference isn’t environment. It’s genetics.

Think about adoption studies. Kids adopted into healthy, supportive homes still end up with the same mental health struggles as their biological parents. That shows nurture can’t erase nature. Trauma can definitely make things harder, but it’s not the root cause. If the wiring is there, the illness shows up no matter what. If it’s not, the worst environment still doesn’t “give” you a disorder.

Environment might be like the weather it can trigger a storm faster or calm things down a bit. But genetics is the climate itself the baseline you can’t escape. You don’t change schizophrenia risk just by having better friends. You don’t erase bipolar by living in a nice neighborhood.

At the end of the day, people want to believe environment matters because it feels like something we can control. But the uncomfortable truth is, mental health isn’t built from your surroundings it’s inherited. Your brain chemistry is from birth

 

[luca_.]

Holy shit everything is genetics it’s truly over

 

[kurd]

Holy shit everything is genetics it’s truly over

Surgery can carve a new face, but they can’t cut out your autism, your ADHD, or your depression. Some wiring can’t be rewritten

 

[luca_.]

Surgery can carve a new face, but they can’t cut out your autism, your ADHD, or your depression. Some wiring can’t be rewritten

It is so over matter of fact I never even began

 

[foxinthesnow]

also the part that is environmental is largely based on your childhood which you can’t control anyway

 

[anthony111553]

 

[jgrey080]

Everything is partly genetics to be fair

 

[Eltrē]

Are you GPTmaxxing or methmaxxing?
There's no way you're pumping these threads out one after another sober.

 

[Panzram]

it’s genetics.

Look at depression. There are studies showing if your parent has it, your risk is two to three times higher. Same with bipolar disorder twin studies literally show that if one identical twin has it, the other has about a 70% chance too. That’s not just “bad vibes” or “negative thinking.” That’s DNA coding your brain chemistry.

Even anxiety disorders line up this way. Whole families deal with panic attacks or OCD, and it’s not because they all grew up watching the same TikToks. It’s hereditary. Schizophrenia? Same thing 1% chance in the general population, but if your sibling has it, that jumps to 10%.

People love saying “just go outside” or “fix your mindset.” Sure, lifestyle can make symptoms worse or better, but the foundation is already written into your body. You can’t out run serotonin imbalances or dopamine receptor issues if they’re literally built into you.

So yeah, mental health isn’t some choice or “weakness.” It’s not you being broken. It’s you being born with a brain wired a certain way. Same as how you inherit eye color or height you inherit your likelihood of depression, ADHD, or bipolar. That’s the part people ignore because it’s uncomfortable

BUT BUT, IT CAN BE DUE TO ENVIRONMENT ASWELL?

If mental health was just about environment, then everyone who grew up in poverty would be depressed, and everyone with traumatic childhoods would end up with anxiety disorders. But that’s not the case. Some people go through the worst possible situations and still come out resilient. Meanwhile, others have stable families, good schools, plenty of money and still develop depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia. The difference isn’t environment. It’s genetics.

Think about adoption studies. Kids adopted into healthy, supportive homes still end up with the same mental health struggles as their biological parents. That shows nurture can’t erase nature. Trauma can definitely make things harder, but it’s not the root cause. If the wiring is there, the illness shows up no matter what. If it’s not, the worst environment still doesn’t “give” you a disorder.

Environment might be like the weather it can trigger a storm faster or calm things down a bit. But genetics is the climate itself the baseline you can’t escape. You don’t change schizophrenia risk just by having better friends. You don’t erase bipolar by living in a nice neighborhood.

At the end of the day, people want to believe environment matters because it feels like something we can control. But the uncomfortable truth is, mental health isn’t built from your surroundings it’s inherited. Your brain chemistry is from birth

Schizophrenia is different than anxiety lmao, in a normal society and living conditions no one suffers from anxiety and depression.

 

[kurd]

Are you GPTmaxxing or methmaxxing?
There's no way you're pumping these threads out one after another sober.

I write my threads before i post them and take my time with them

 

[pulsar23]

it’s genetics.

Look at depression. There are studies showing if your parent has it, your risk is two to three times higher. Same with bipolar disorder twin studies literally show that if one identical twin has it, the other has about a 70% chance too. That’s not just “bad vibes” or “negative thinking.” That’s DNA coding your brain chemistry.

Even anxiety disorders line up this way. Whole families deal with panic attacks or OCD, and it’s not because they all grew up watching the same TikToks. It’s hereditary. Schizophrenia? Same thing 1% chance in the general population, but if your sibling has it, that jumps to 10%.

People love saying “just go outside” or “fix your mindset.” Sure, lifestyle can make symptoms worse or better, but the foundation is already written into your body. You can’t out run serotonin imbalances or dopamine receptor issues if they’re literally built into you.

So yeah, mental health isn’t some choice or “weakness.” It’s not you being broken. It’s you being born with a brain wired a certain way. Same as how you inherit eye color or height you inherit your likelihood of depression, ADHD, or bipolar. That’s the part people ignore because it’s uncomfortable

BUT BUT, IT CAN BE DUE TO ENVIRONMENT ASWELL?

If mental health was just about environment, then everyone who grew up in poverty would be depressed, and everyone with traumatic childhoods would end up with anxiety disorders. But that’s not the case. Some people go through the worst possible situations and still come out resilient. Meanwhile, others have stable families, good schools, plenty of money and still develop depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia. The difference isn’t environment. It’s genetics.

Think about adoption studies. Kids adopted into healthy, supportive homes still end up with the same mental health struggles as their biological parents. That shows nurture can’t erase nature. Trauma can definitely make things harder, but it’s not the root cause. If the wiring is there, the illness shows up no matter what. If it’s not, the worst environment still doesn’t “give” you a disorder.

Environment might be like the weather it can trigger a storm faster or calm things down a bit. But genetics is the climate itself the baseline you can’t escape. You don’t change schizophrenia risk just by having better friends. You don’t erase bipolar by living in a nice neighborhood.

At the end of the day, people want to believe environment matters because it feels like something we can control. But the uncomfortable truth is, mental health isn’t built from your surroundings it’s inherited. Your brain chemistry is from birth

nutrition

 

[kurd]

Schizophrenia is different than anxiety lmao, in a normal society and living conditions no one suffers from anxiety and depression.

Yeah, schizophrenia and anxiety aren’t the same, but pretending anxiety and depression are just products of ‘modern society’ is lazy. Ancient texts literally describe symptoms of both, and people in every culture and time period have dealt with them. There are hunter gatherer societies with no social media, no 9-5 jobs and still cases of depression and anxiety.

The truth is, genetics set the baseline. Environment can trigger things, sure, but you can’t just wish away mental illness by living in a hut or farming your own food. If that were true, people with perfect upbringings would never struggle but they do

 

[karmacita901]

its not genetics 'only', the slop and the screens are definitely fucking peoples minds up and increasing their susceptibility to various disorders

 

[Panzram]

There are hunter gatherer societies with no social media, no 9-5 jobs and still cases of depression and anxiety.

Can you find me that? I have not been able to find exapmles.

The fact that rates of mentall illness are increasing fast despite genetics staying the same shows that enviorment plays a big role. Some are more prone to it some less, under unnatural enough conditions everyone breaks.

And ancient cities were not natural human enviorment, only hunter gatherer societies had that. What we have now tho is by far the worst conditions for mentall health ever.

 

[kurd]

its not genetics 'only', the slop and the screens are definitely fucking peoples minds up and increasing their susceptibility to various disorders

but they don’t create mental illness out of thin air. They just flip the switch faster if the wiring is already there.

it’s called genetics deciding susceptibility

 

[Jatt]

it’s genetics.

Look at depression. There are studies showing if your parent has it, your risk is two to three times higher. Same with bipolar disorder twin studies literally show that if one identical twin has it, the other has about a 70% chance too. That’s not just “bad vibes” or “negative thinking.” That’s DNA coding your brain chemistry.

Even anxiety disorders line up this way. Whole families deal with panic attacks or OCD, and it’s not because they all grew up watching the same TikToks. It’s hereditary. Schizophrenia? Same thing 1% chance in the general population, but if your sibling has it, that jumps to 10%.

People love saying “just go outside” or “fix your mindset.” Sure, lifestyle can make symptoms worse or better, but the foundation is already written into your body. You can’t out run serotonin imbalances or dopamine receptor issues if they’re literally built into you.

So yeah, mental health isn’t some choice or “weakness.” It’s not you being broken. It’s you being born with a brain wired a certain way. Same as how you inherit eye color or height you inherit your likelihood of depression, ADHD, or bipolar. That’s the part people ignore because it’s uncomfortable

BUT BUT, IT CAN BE DUE TO ENVIRONMENT ASWELL?

If mental health was just about environment, then everyone who grew up in poverty would be depressed, and everyone with traumatic childhoods would end up with anxiety disorders. But that’s not the case. Some people go through the worst possible situations and still come out resilient. Meanwhile, others have stable families, good schools, plenty of money and still develop depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia. The difference isn’t environment. It’s genetics.

Think about adoption studies. Kids adopted into healthy, supportive homes still end up with the same mental health struggles as their biological parents. That shows nurture can’t erase nature. Trauma can definitely make things harder, but it’s not the root cause. If the wiring is there, the illness shows up no matter what. If it’s not, the worst environment still doesn’t “give” you a disorder.

Environment might be like the weather it can trigger a storm faster or calm things down a bit. But genetics is the climate itself the baseline you can’t escape. You don’t change schizophrenia risk just by having better friends. You don’t erase bipolar by living in a nice neighborhood.

At the end of the day, people want to believe environment matters because it feels like something we can control. But the uncomfortable truth is, mental health isn’t built from your surroundings it’s inherited. Your brain chemistry is from birth

Fr this girl said her depression is genetic from her family

 

[kurd]

Can you find me that? I have not been able to find exapmles.

The fact that rates of mentall illness are increasing fast despite genetics staying the same shows that enviorment plays a big role. Some are more prone to it some less, under unnatural enough conditions everyone breaks.

And ancient cities were not natural human enviorment, only hunter gatherer societies had that. What we have now tho is by far the worst conditions for mentall health ever.

There are actual studies on groups like the Tsimane in Bolivia that show people still report sadness and depression even with no tech, no 9–5, none of the ‘modern stress.’ Same with the Hadza kids there had lower rates of disorders than kids in England, but not zero. So yeah, mental illness existed even in the most ‘natural’ lifestyles.

The thing is, genetics sets the base. Some people are wired to be more prone, some less. Environment then decides how much that wiring gets pushed. Modern life is obviously pouring gasoline on it screens, isolation, junk food, constant stress. That’s why rates spike even though our DNA hasn’t changed.

So you’re right that environment matters, but it’s not the whole story. If it was just about society, everyone in bad conditions would break, and everyone in good ones would be fine. But that’s not how it works. Some people raised in perfect families still struggle, and some people who go through hell come out stable. That’s genetics showing through.

It’s Easy to Blame Mental Health Issues on Tech. But Is It Fair?

A popular narrative says devices make us depressed. Research with remote Amazonians adds more depth to the story.

www.wired.com

Editorial Perspective: What can we learn from hunter-gatherers about children's mental health? An evolutionary perspective - PubMed

Humans lived as hunter-gatherers for more than 95% of our evolutionary history, thus studying contemporary hunter-gatherer populations offers insight into the conditions children may be psychologically adapted to. Here, we contrast hunter-gatherer childhoods with those of WEIRD (Western Educated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Panzram]

There are actual studies on groups like the Tsimane in Bolivia that show people still report sadness and depression even with no tech, no 9–5, none of the ‘modern stress.’ Same with the Hadza kids there had lower rates of disorders than kids in England, but not zero. So yeah, mental illness existed even in the most ‘natural’ lifestyles.

The thing is, genetics sets the base. Some people are wired to be more prone, some less. Environment then decides how much that wiring gets pushed. Modern life is obviously pouring gasoline on it screens, isolation, junk food, constant stress. That’s why rates spike even though our DNA hasn’t changed.

So you’re right that environment matters, but it’s not the whole story. If it was just about society, everyone in bad conditions would break, and everyone in good ones would be fine. But that’s not how it works. Some people raised in perfect families still struggle, and some people who go through hell come out stable. That’s genetics showing through.

It’s Easy to Blame Mental Health Issues on Tech. But Is It Fair?

A popular narrative says devices make us depressed. Research with remote Amazonians adds more depth to the story.

www.wired.com

Editorial Perspective: What can we learn from hunter-gatherers about children's mental health? An evolutionary perspective - PubMed

Humans lived as hunter-gatherers for more than 95% of our evolutionary history, thus studying contemporary hunter-gatherer populations offers insight into the conditions children may be psychologically adapted to. Here, we contrast hunter-gatherer childhoods with those of WEIRD (Western Educated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There are actual studies on groups like the Tsimane in Bolivia that show people still report sadness and depression even with no tech, no 9–5, none of the ‘modern stress.’ Same with the Hadza kids there had lower rates of disorders than kids in England, but not zero. So yeah, mental illness existed even in the most ‘natural’ lifestyles.

The thing is, genetics sets the base. Some people are wired to be more prone, some less. Environment then decides how much that wiring gets pushed. Modern life is obviously pouring gasoline on it screens, isolation, junk food, constant stress. That’s why rates spike even though our DNA hasn’t changed.

So you’re right that environment matters, but it’s not the whole story. If it was just about society, everyone in bad conditions would break, and everyone in good ones would be fine. But that’s not how it works. Some people raised in perfect families still struggle, and some people who go through hell come out stable. That’s genetics showing through.

It’s Easy to Blame Mental Health Issues on Tech. But Is It Fair?

A popular narrative says devices make us depressed. Research with remote Amazonians adds more depth to the story.

www.wired.com

Editorial Perspective: What can we learn from hunter-gatherers about children's mental health? An evolutionary perspective - PubMed

Humans lived as hunter-gatherers for more than 95% of our evolutionary history, thus studying contemporary hunter-gatherer populations offers insight into the conditions children may be psychologically adapted to. Here, we contrast hunter-gatherer childhoods with those of WEIRD (Western Educated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I cant read the wierd article without sub and there is only the abstract of the second study.

I agree in general with what you say, genetics determine if the possibility for a dissorder is there and enviorment triggers it. Talking about lesser dissorders like anxiety and depression. We always had schizos and they can just be mad with no trigger. They were perhaps the shamans and prophets in hunter gatherer societies lmao.

Its like with blood pressure, there is no need to have high blood pressure for 99% of people yet most develop it today. If most of those prone to high bp never lived an unnatural life and never consumed poison they would not develop it. I guess there is always that 1% that is just subhuman and will always have it.

 

[kurd]

I cant read the wierd article without sub and there is only the abstract of the second study.

I agree in general with what you say, genetics determine if the possibility for a dissorder is there and enviorment triggers it. Talking about lesser dissorders like anxiety and depression. We always had schizos and they can just be mad with no trigger. They were perhaps the shamans and prophets in hunter gatherer societies lmao.

Its like with blood pressure, there is no need to have high blood pressure for 99% of people yet most develop it today. If most of those prone to high bp never lived an unnatural life and never consumed poison they would not develop it. I guess there is always that 1% that is just subhuman and will always have it.

Correct

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

it’s genetics.

Look at depression. There are studies showing if your parent has it, your risk is two to three times higher. Same with bipolar disorder twin studies literally show that if one identical twin has it, the other has about a 70% chance too. That’s not just “bad vibes” or “negative thinking.” That’s DNA coding your brain chemistry.

Even anxiety disorders line up this way. Whole families deal with panic attacks or OCD, and it’s not because they all grew up watching the same TikToks. It’s hereditary. Schizophrenia? Same thing 1% chance in the general population, but if your sibling has it, that jumps to 10%.

People love saying “just go outside” or “fix your mindset.” Sure, lifestyle can make symptoms worse or better, but the foundation is already written into your body. You can’t out run serotonin imbalances or dopamine receptor issues if they’re literally built into you.

So yeah, mental health isn’t some choice or “weakness.” It’s not you being broken. It’s you being born with a brain wired a certain way. Same as how you inherit eye color or height you inherit your likelihood of depression, ADHD, or bipolar. That’s the part people ignore because it’s uncomfortable

BUT BUT, IT CAN BE DUE TO ENVIRONMENT ASWELL?

If mental health was just about environment, then everyone who grew up in poverty would be depressed, and everyone with traumatic childhoods would end up with anxiety disorders. But that’s not the case. Some people go through the worst possible situations and still come out resilient. Meanwhile, others have stable families, good schools, plenty of money and still develop depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia. The difference isn’t environment. It’s genetics.

Think about adoption studies. Kids adopted into healthy, supportive homes still end up with the same mental health struggles as their biological parents. That shows nurture can’t erase nature. Trauma can definitely make things harder, but it’s not the root cause. If the wiring is there, the illness shows up no matter what. If it’s not, the worst environment still doesn’t “give” you a disorder.

Environment might be like the weather it can trigger a storm faster or calm things down a bit. But genetics is the climate itself the baseline you can’t escape. You don’t change schizophrenia risk just by having better friends. You don’t erase bipolar by living in a nice neighborhood.

At the end of the day, people want to believe environment matters because it feels like something we can control. But the uncomfortable truth is, mental health isn’t built from your surroundings it’s inherited. Your brain chemistry is from birth

Glad someone noticed it.