Message to all the Muslims regarding the incident of Charlie Kirk

[Ogionth]

The insults and words I used against a jahil (you) are completely warranted.

2. Hes a kaffir in a kaffir country. If kirk was saying the same statements in a land under sharia, he wouldve been executed longggggg earlier. Ibn Taymiyyah for example praised when the munafiq kuffar died. so many scholars do. even a recent scholar like bin baz said that it is a good thing from Allah that Muslims should celebrate when the kuffar munafiqeen enemies of Islam die. You are talking out of your ass, literally nothing you say is true. Fear Allah

3. Show me one ounce of evidence that celebrating the death of a kaffir by any means possible is haram, one piece of evidence. Bring it if you are truthful.

4. because you are a jahesh, coming onto this site, and wanting Muslims to not celebrate the death of someone who Called the Prophet s.a.w. a modern day epstein, you jahil, i really hope Allah guides you or humilates you even more.

5. So you just said I am not following Islam, without providing a single ounce of evidence for any of ur original statements. show me ur reason to takfir me or else the takfir falls upon you. i bet ur dumbass doesnt even know what takfir is, let alone aqeedah.

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a man says to his brother, O Kafir (disbeliever)!' Then surely one of them is such (i.e., a Kafir). "

1. That was not the only insult mentioned + who are you to say it was warranted when my argument is from Islamic sources itself and regardless, you shouldn't be calling anyone a jahil because you support gambling and you have coerced people to gamble on here.

2. I don't think you've the intellectual capability to comprehend basic English since you completely miscontrued my argument, whether or not he would've been executed under Shari'ah DOES NOT make this killing lawful, and UNDER SHARIA, this wouldn't be the manne rof execution and again, it would be ordered by the ruler and if not, then it would be unlawful.


3. If the killing is unlawful, then celebrating that "unlawful" killing is haram. If the way of killing does not comply with Shari'ah then endorsing it is haram.

4. Who are you to decide? The person that tells people to commit major sins like gambling?

“O you who believe! Intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters to other than Allah, and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.”
(Surah al-Mā’idah 5:90)


5. I didn't takfir you when I said "you're not following Islam".

I merely meant, that your behavior towards this situation (aka considering this killing lawful) is not in conpliance with Shari'ah.

 

[Ogionth]

was telling a kaffir to gamble. and even if i did personally gamble, that doesnt take me out the religion.

LMAO.

Nice logic, go tell a kafir to kill someone next.

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:

He who called (people) to righteousness, there would be reward (assured) for him like the rewards of those who adhered to it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who called (people) to error, he shall have to carry (the burden) of its sin, like those who committed it, without their sins being diminished in any respect.

Go make them commit all the major sins and then when Allah asks you about this I'd love to see you answer this with "I was telling a kafir to kill anywya"


Whether or not, it takes you out of religion doesn't matter lol. It shows what kind of a man you are.

 

[arabcell]

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[Luquier]

holy fuck ur such a cuck to the kuffar. this is why muslims are being slaughtered. because you people will shun people fighting for themselves before the kuffar asli do. you dont care about what is halal but you care about the western peoples validation.

may Allah humiliate you even more, and either guide you or round you up with kirk in jahannam forever Allahumma ameen. dumbass jahil. idgaf about kirk after he disrespected the prophet and the lives of the muslims. jahil kadhab the narrators of the hadiths you mention would spit on you wallahi they would

You have to keep in mind, the guy who assassinated Charlie Kirk was a white homosexual. Yet Right wing faggots are trying to pin the murder on groups who had nothing to do with the murder when it was just another mentally ill white loser.

If you look at the situation, where some degenerate who got paid by Jews to endorse the massacre of Palestinians and other corrupt agendas gets killed by some other white degenerate why should you care? All you’re doing is attracting negative attention towards your community and giving fuel to your opposition.

 

[arabcell]

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[Ghoulish]

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Hes a black orthodox Christian who larp about slaying poojetas hes not even considered human atp

 

[Ghoulish]

1. By your manners, I can tell what type of upbringing you have had and great that you displayed it here for all of us to see.

2. According to all 4 madhabs, this way of killing specifically, was unlawful as the punitive laws have to be carried out by a legitimate islamic authority (judge, govt or ruler).

3. I only advocated for *neither mourn nor celebrate* which can be proven from the sources and is in accordance with scholarly opinions, celebrating an unlawful way of killing which is against the rulings of Allah is not permissible.

4. Keep your emotions aside and look at the situation through a logical lens, you have no control over your emotions hence why such a baseless response.

5. It is not me being a cuck, it is you not following Islam

May Allah guide you, because you lack intelligence in a very intense manner.


@Ghoulish What do you think about this?

He said some horrific shit about the prophet i believe we should say whatever we want about him tbh, since it’s unlikely we’d be punished for it.

fuck the cuck

 

[Ogionth]

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why the fuck would i about someone who doesnt follow Islam gambling. make it make sense. dont give me no bullshit like "muh ur not a real man bro muh muh" tell me from ISLAMIC SOURCES. Ok?

Sahih Muslim

"He who called (people) to righteousness, there would be reward (assured) for him like the rewards of those who adhered to it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who called (people) to error, he shall have to carry (the burden) of its sin, like those who committed it, without their sins being diminished in any respect."

Why would it exclude non muslims lol? Telling anyone to do SOMETHING THAT ALLAH IN THE QURAN HAS explicitly mentioned to be a huge sin is HARAM and you have an equal part in their sin.

You do realise that not only did you commit a major sin by doing so but you're clearly denying that it was a sin too?

2. Do you hear urself? U just said that no matter if the killing was allowed under the law of the creators of the heavens and the earths, it is still unlawful. Who do you think you are, explain this. Under sharia he would be executed, and public executions arent a foreign thing to Islam and sharia.

Well well well, here we go again, you misconstrue it again because clearly your prefrontal cortex is impaired due to years of such thoughts.

1. I did NOT say what you just claimed, I said that his killing would not have been done by a random person with a sniper rather A RULER/GOVT/JUDGE would've given an order to someone and that person would be doing so.

It's so funny you just miscontrued such basic English statements, have you ever taken an IQ test? Because there's no way you're not intellectually disabled

3. How doesnt the way of killing comply with sharia? We are not talking about hypotheticals. A kaffir enemy of Islam was killed, and we celebrate, if you dont, then I doubt your islam (i already do you jahesh)

Because as I explained earlier, the legitimate ISLAMIC jurisdiction has to order it for it to become lawful and a RANDOM PERSON cannot do what their heart wishes, they have to be ORDERED by the ruler.

4. IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT I TELL A KAFFIR TO DO, HES NOT MUSLIM. Plus i was telling him to gamble a bit since he already had the distraction of doing so, then helping him invest in certain coins & stocks. Go criticise the big hanafi scholars then, who believe that going to a kaffir country to sell drugs to them is halal as well. Fuck ur really a monkey. What

Nope, no "big hanafi" scholar says that it's okay to tell a kafir to commit a major sin like gambling.

"Cooperate with one another in goodness and righteousness, and do not cooperate in sin and transgression" (Quran 5:2).

Commanding the good and forbidding the evil is obligatory.

Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “When Allah forbids a thing, He (also) forbids its price.” Narrated by Abu Dawud, 3488 considered authentic by Al-Albani in Ghayat Al-Maram

“And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: `This is lawful and this is forbidden,’ so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.” [An-Nahl 16:116]

5. When you say someone isnt following Islam, that is takfir. You're not even admitting u worded it wrong, your still not denying it.

I didn't mean to takfir you, I already told you lol.