Messi is the GOAT

[cobicado901]

My point was valid. Also do u not speak good English or smth cos that was a direct comeback to what u “tried” to say

No it wasn’t. We were talking about the Portugal vs Sweden 2013 and then you started talking about Ronaldo performance 2022. So now I just shitposted

 

[grungymallard97]

No it wasn’t. We were talking about the Portugal vs Sweden 2013 and then you started talking about Ronaldo performance 2022. So now I just shitposted

Well yeah because u were talking a boy Ronaldo carrying teams full of plumbers yet when they have a good team he stinks it up. But when Messi is in a good or bad team he improves it

 

[cobicado901]

Well yeah because u were talking a boy Ronaldo carrying teams full of plumbers yet when they have a good team he stinks it up. But when Messi is in a good or bad team he improves it

Again, you are talking about the WC 2022 when he was 38y, idc, that’s not that I said.

Bye bro, Ronaldo vs Sweden 2013 is better than anything that migdet ever did.

 

[grungymallard97]

Again, you are talking about the WC 2022 when he was 38y, idc, that’s not that I said.

Bye bro, Ronaldo vs Sweden 2013 is better than anything that migdet ever did.

38 vs 36 huge difference.

 

[cobicado901]

38 vs 36 huge difference.

argentina had a better team, better manager and better referees. And yes, those 2 years in professional sports (especially in their 30s) is a huge difference

 

[grungymallard97]

argentina had a better team, better manager and better referees. And yes, those 2 years in professional sports (especially in their 30s) is a huge difference

Ronaldo didny do it in 2018 either despite having a better ranked team then Argentina pre World Cup 2022 but oh well.
Bye bro decent debate

 

[enchanted_elixir]

No ballon d'or for your genes

Ankara Messi

 

[toji.]

Penaldog can’t even compare he’s closer to Neymar than messi

To be completely impartial, to say who is the best player in history can be determined in so many ways. For example, recently I watched some old games of Garrincha, or Socrates, I watched some games of Italy in 2006, I watched some games of Maradona, Bergkamp, some games of Milan with Schevchenko, Kaka, Cruyff, and so on.

And I can say that the football of the 70's-80's and the beginning of the 90's is another world, and a quite unexplored world, there are players who have an amazing quality, players who score beautiful goals.

For the same reason, I feel that the discussion about Cristiano or Messi is a bit crude, because there are so many players behind them who can perfectly enter the discussion... Don't get me wrong, it's clear that they are the highest scoring players, but does that make them the best of all time? Is the warrior who kills the most the best warrior? What about bravery, what about those players who do not score as many goals but have a quality worthy of being a good player?

Nevertheless, to return to the drift of the typical discussion, I think Cristiano is undoubtedly a good player, one of the best of all time, a lone warrior who has achieved by his own merit what he has achieved, Messi has won a World Cup, it is true, but it is not only his merit, he comes from a golden generation of Argentine players, something that Cristiano will probably never see, so we should not question him with the theme of World Cups, that would be unfair.

Cristiano has scored more goals than Messi, but Messi has more quality and in terms of game to goal ratio, Messi is much better than Cristiano, which makes him a better player.

But with all due respect, Messi has become a dirty player lately, very eager to dive, very eager to use his influence on the pitch, he doesn't look clean to me. Nowadays, Cristiano, at least I admire him for his consistency and discipline. Both are great players, one is more precise than the other, I really enjoyed Cristiano's goals for their beauty and quality, and I really enjoyed Messi's dribbling, so I think it's a matter of taste.

I think the best player in history is not in the current generation, I would stop and look at the players of Brazil in the 70-80s. They were indescribable great.

 

[cobicado901]

Ronaldo didny do it in 2018 either despite having a better ranked team then Argentina pre World Cup 2022 but oh well.
Bye bro decent debate

They both got eliminated in the 1/16 WC wtf??? And against Uruguai it was 100% Rui Patrício and Ricardo Pereira fault.

The team was not good btw. FIFA ranking are BS this is a bad argument.

 

[grungymallard97]

To be completely impartial, to say who is the best player in history can be determined in so many ways. For example, recently I watched some old games of Garrincha, or Socrates, I watched some games of Italy in 2006, I watched some games of Maradona, Bergkamp, some games of Milan with Schevchenko, Kaka, Cruyff, and so on.

And I can say that the football of the 70's-80's and the beginning of the 90's is another world, and a quite unexplored world, there are players who have an amazing quality, players who score beautiful goals.

For the same reason, I feel that the discussion about Cristiano or Messi is a bit crude, because there are so many players behind them who can perfectly enter the discussion... Don't get me wrong, it's clear that they are the highest scoring players, but does that make them the best of all time? Is the warrior who kills the most the best warrior? What about bravery, what about those players who do not score as many goals but have a quality worthy of being a good player?

Nevertheless, to return to the drift of the typical discussion, I think Cristiano is undoubtedly a good player, one of the best of all time, a lone warrior who has achieved by his own merit what he has achieved, Messi has won a World Cup, it is true, but it is not only his merit, he comes from a golden generation of Argentine players, something that Cristiano will probably never see, so we should not question him with the theme of World Cups, that would be unfair.

Cristiano has scored more goals than Messi, but Messi has more quality and in terms of game to goal ratio, Messi is much better than Cristiano, which makes him a better player.

But with all due respect, Messi has become a dirty player lately, very eager to dive, very eager to use his influence on the pitch, he doesn't look clean to me. Nowadays, Cristiano, at least I admire him for his consistency and discipline. Both are great players, one is more precise than the other, I really enjoyed Cristiano's goals for their beauty and quality, and I really enjoyed Messi's dribbling, so I think it's a matter of taste.

I think the best player in history is not in the current generation, I would stop and look at the players of Brazil in the 70-80s. They were indescribable great.

Messi is still the best oat.

 

[cobicado901]

To be completely impartial, to say who is the best player in history can be determined in so many ways. For example, recently I watched some old games of Garrincha, or Socrates, I watched some games of Italy in 2006, I watched some games of Maradona, Bergkamp, some games of Milan with Schevchenko, Kaka, Cruyff, and so on.

And I can say that the football of the 70's-80's and the beginning of the 90's is another world, and a quite unexplored world, there are players who have an amazing quality, players who score beautiful goals.

For the same reason, I feel that the discussion about Cristiano or Messi is a bit crude, because there are so many players behind them who can perfectly enter the discussion... Don't get me wrong, it's clear that they are the highest scoring players, but does that make them the best of all time? Is the warrior who kills the most the best warrior? What about bravery, what about those players who do not score as many goals but have a quality worthy of being a good player?

Nevertheless, to return to the drift of the typical discussion, I think Cristiano is undoubtedly a good player, one of the best of all time, a lone warrior who has achieved by his own merit what he has achieved, Messi has won a World Cup, it is true, but it is not only his merit, he comes from a golden generation of Argentine players, something that Cristiano will probably never see, so we should not question him with the theme of World Cups, that would be unfair.

Cristiano has scored more goals than Messi, but Messi has more quality and in terms of game to goal ratio, Messi is much better than Cristiano, which makes him a better player.

But with all due respect, Messi has become a dirty player lately, very eager to dive, very eager to use his influence on the pitch, he doesn't look clean to me. Nowadays, Cristiano, at least I admire him for his consistency and discipline. Both are great players, one is more precise than the other, I really enjoyed Cristiano's goals for their beauty and quality, and I really enjoyed Messi's dribbling, so I think it's a matter of taste.

I think the best player in history is not in the current generation, I would stop and look at the players of Brazil in the 70-80s. They were indescribable great.

this is true tbh, im just arguing between Messi vs. Ronaldo, I really like other players from older eras

 

[grungymallard97]

They both got eliminated in the 1/16 WC wtf??? And against Uruguai it was 100% Rui Patrício and Ricardo Pereira fault.

The team was not good btw. FIFA ranking are BS this is a bad argument.

So that’s why it was rated higher than the 2022 wc Argentina team pre world cup ok bud. Maybe Ronny just didn’t do enough

 

[cobicado901]

So that’s why it was rated higher than the 2022 wc Argentina team pre world cup ok bud. Maybe Ronny just didn’t do enough

He did, every guy that actually watches Portugal games will think the same. Ranking are BS im not even arguing against that.