MGTOW is the most “blackpilled” ideology

[optimisticzoomer]

Distancing yourself from non-platonic relationships due to disliking their shallow nature and not wanting to participate in something so disingenuous, and instead realising only your self love is real, and prioritising yourself, is the most “blackpilled” thing one can do

The people who like to call themselves “blackpilled” are usually noobs who are validation slaves and are looks pilled. Wake up, every normie is looks pilled. That’s not “blackpilled”, that’s common sense

People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself. Attractive men should also go their own way. Would you want a friendship that was dependent on you looking good or being used for money etc? No? Then why would you want a romantic relationship like that?

The only way to win is to not participate, regardless of your looks level.

Now of course, MGTOW should ideally be part of general monkmaxxing (celibacymaxxing).

 

[Diᴏgenes]

tldr - I choose me

 

[Deleted member 180145]

its more redpilled

 

[optimisticzoomer]

tldr - I choose me

Yes, but I had to explain why that is indeed the most “blackpilled” option. So, if you like calling yourself a blackpiller, and you’re not an advocate for MGTOW, are you really?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Its destructive and it operates on the fallacy that "superficial" equals "bad".

 

[optimisticzoomer]

its more redpilled

Not at all
Complete misconception
It’s as blackpilled as it gets

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Its destructive and it operates on the fallacy that "superficial" equals "bad".

It is, if you value genuineness

 

[VampyrMaxx]

It is, if you value genuineness

Every human action is selfish, therefore nothing is genuine. Doesnt mean its bad

 

[Regular Doomer]

well said brother

blackpill = a state of mind of defeatism and depression, search for validation = bluepill

mgtow = redpill, knowledge and the best course of action for you life

also mgtow don't even mean not having sex and not dating, it just means "no cohabitation, no marriage, no kids, find purpose in life outside family cause it is a ginoncentric tool to destroy men"

it is as simple as that.

MGTOW = the real based ones
blackpillers = gay ass bluepillers

 

[Regular Doomer]

Not at all
Complete misconception
It’s as blackpilled as it gets

bluepill = lack of knowledge

redpill = knowledge

blackpill = state of mind

 

[optimisticzoomer]

well said brother

blackpill = a state of mind of defeatism and depression

This is where monkmaxxing comes in

 

[Vantablack]

agreed, i have come to the same conclusions in regards to MGTOW

 

[Regular Doomer]

agreed, i have come to the same conclusions in regards to MGTOW

all roads lead to mgtow

incels live long enough as incels end up mgtow
chads live long enough as chads end up mgtow

and so on...

 

[VampyrMaxx]

A mothers love for her son is selfish, should i abstain from my mothers love?

 

[Regular Doomer]

A mothers love for her son is selfish, should i abstain from my mothers love?

are you retarded?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

are you retarded?

What?

 

[Regular Doomer]

What?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

A mothers love for her son is selfish because the mom takes care of the son to advance the genetics forward. Why am I retarded for saying that?

 

[MangoLover]

its more redpilled

It's both redpilled and blackpilled

Redpilled as in focus on yourself and the grind and all

Blackpilled as in genetic determinism when it comes to your looks and personality, lead many men to not being able to create and stabilise fulfilling relationships cause they may be ND, making it hard for these males to betabux and personalitymaxx for women, or thats its hard for these men to attract a woman within a nanosecond of them subconsciously analysing their looks cause these men are not good looking enough, or a mix of both, unfortunately this leaves many of these men no choice but to take the MGTOW route I agree with OP

 

[killuacel]

new excuse for why i get no pussy

 

[Dip3shx]

Distancing yourself from non-platonic relationships due to disliking their shallow nature and not wanting to participate in something so disingenuous, and instead realising only your self love is real, and prioritising yourself, is the most “blackpilled” thing one can do

The people who like to call themselves “blackpilled” are usually noobs who are validation slaves and are looks pilled. Wake up, every normie is looks pilled. That’s not “blackpilled”, that’s common sense

People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself. Attractive men should also go their own way. Would you want a friendship that was dependent on you looking good or being used for money etc? No? Then why would you want a romantic relationship like that?

The only way to win is to not participate, regardless of your looks level.

Now of course, MGTOW should ideally be part of general monkmaxxing (celibacymaxxing).

I unironically thought like this for most of highschool lol

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Up

 

[Regular Doomer]

Up

Anyone who is not a mgtow is not acting on logic at all, it is all emotion no reasoning behind it

people can downplay your argument all they want, they can shame you all they want yet not a single rational argument can be made against it if you're using reason and facts

 

[Robert_]

"People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself."

Very based and logical take.

I agree with rehab room on many things but I don't agree with his MSTOW logic. It's not like a person is being forced to go mgtow, if they wanted they could get Into a relationship, marriage etc too (beta buxx and oofy doofy relationships exist) but they didn't chose that and went mgtow

 

[Regular Doomer]

"People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself."

Very based and logical take.

I agree with rehab room on many things but I don't agree with his MSTOW logic. It's not like a person is being forced to go mgtow, if they wanted they could get Into a relationship, marriage etc too (beta buxx and oofy doofy relationships exist) but they didn't chose that and went mgtow

exactly, they could even keep embarasing themselves with dating and going through more huimiliation rituals, but they decided that enough is enough

 

[Regular Doomer]

the term MSTOW is nothing but shaming tactics as well, not a logical argumento or anything like that

 

[widdi]

"People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself."

Very based and logical take.

I agree with rehab room on many things but I don't agree with his MSTOW logic. It's not like a person is being forced to go mgtow, if they wanted they could get Into a relationship, marriage etc too (beta buxx and oofy doofy relationships exist) but they didn't chose that and went mgtow

It’s because MSTOWs delude themselves into thinking that all men have the same choices. There are men who have genuine appeal to women and don’t need to go MGTOW. Is “going MGTOW” the best options for MSTOWs? Maybe. But it’s not the same for everyone. HTNs don’t need to go MGTOW.

 

[Laqi]

bluepill = lack of knowledge

redpill = knowledge

blackpill = state of mind

Absolutely ramblings.
You don't even fucking know what blackpill is, it's not a fucking ideology or philosophy you fucking retard.
IT IS LIFE.

 

[Regular Doomer]

It’s because MSTOWs delude themselves into thinking that all men have the same choices. There are men who have genuine appeal to women and don’t need to go MGTOW. Is “going MGTOW” the best options for MSTOWs? Maybe. But it’s not the same for everyone. HTNs don’t need to go MGTOW.

no, many many many chads go mgtow, many many many so called "incels" also go mgtow

and they go cause logicaly speaking it is a rigged game that they don't wanna be part of

you're simply using shaming tactics
"muh mgtow are incels"
there is absolutely zero logic behind it

what about guys who go through vasectomy? do you think that they do that cause they get too many or too little women? this is mgtow in action.

just take a good look at the extreme amount of chads who got divorced raped or cucked... this is off the chars, there is no "need" to go mgtow, it is a concious and smart choice for those who are actualy awaken and inteligent

 

[Regular Doomer]

Absolutely ramblings.
You don't even fucking know what blackpill is, it's not a fucking ideology or philosophy you fucking retard.
IT IS LIFE.

you know nothing boy, keep quiet and learn instead of making a fool of yourself

 

[widdi]

no, many many many chads go mgtow, many many many so called "incels" also go mgtow

I’m sure some chads go MGTOW just like many incels betabux. People not doing the best possible thing for them isn’t an argument for anything

and they go cause logicaly speaking it is a rigged game that they don't wanna be part of

you're simply using shaming tactics
"muh mgtow are incels"
there is absolutely zero logic behind it

You need to stop projecting. It might be a rigged game for you because you have an unloveable face, but humans need love and affection. If you are unloveable this doesn’t matter because this won’t happen to you anyways, but not all men fall into that category.

If the only barrier to MGTOW was knowledge you’d see a wide variety of men being MGTOW. But 95% of the time you see these MGTOWs, it’s always ugly 0 SMV subhumans.

I never called MGTOWs incel. That would actually be a compliment. The average MGTOW wishes he could reach the SMV of the average incel.

 

[Regular Doomer]

I’m sure some chads go MGTOW just like many incels betabux. People not doing the best possible thing for them isn’t an argument for anything


You need to stop projecting. It might be a rigged game for you because you have an unloveable face, but humans need love and affection. If you are unloveable this doesn’t matter because this won’t happen to you anyways, but not all men fall into that category.

If the only barrier to MGTOW was knowledge you’d see a wide variety of men being MGTOW. But 95% of the time you see these MGTOWs, it’s always ugly 0 SMV subhumans.

I never called MGTOWs incel. That would actually be a compliment. The average MGTOW wishes he could reach the SMV of the average incel.

your arguments are 100% shaming tactics and projection and 0% logics and facts

 

[Regular Doomer]

I’m sure some chads go MGTOW just like many incels betabux. People not doing the best possible thing for them isn’t an argument for anything


You need to stop projecting. It might be a rigged game for you because you have an unloveable face, but humans need love and affection. If you are unloveable this doesn’t matter because this won’t happen to you anyways, but not all men fall into that category.

If the only barrier to MGTOW was knowledge you’d see a wide variety of men being MGTOW. But 95% of the time you see these MGTOWs, it’s always ugly 0 SMV subhumans.

I never called MGTOWs incel. That would actually be a compliment. The average MGTOW wishes he could reach the SMV of the average incel.

@optimisticzoomer take a look at this, 0% logic in his posts hahaha they're incapable of any sort of logical argument, it is all emotions and shaming tactics, it is like talking to a woman, he proved my point

 

[Klasik616]

Distancing yourself from non-platonic relationships due to disliking their shallow nature and not wanting to participate in something so disingenuous, and instead realising only your self love is real, and prioritising yourself, is the most “blackpilled” thing one can do

The people who like to call themselves “blackpilled” are usually noobs who are validation slaves and are looks pilled. Wake up, every normie is looks pilled. That’s not “blackpilled”, that’s common sense

People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself. Attractive men should also go their own way. Would you want a friendship that was dependent on you looking good or being used for money etc? No? Then why would you want a romantic relationship like that?

The only way to win is to not participate, regardless of your looks level.

Now of course, MGTOW should ideally be part of general monkmaxxing (celibacymaxxing).

This sounds like feminism for men

 

[valentine]

IM MGTOW

 

[themogger1]

but getting treated good just for looking good feels good

 

[widdi]

your arguments are 100% shaming tactics and projection and 0% logics and facts

@optimisticzoomer take a look at this, 0% logic in his posts hahaha they're incapable of any sort of logical argument, it is all emotions and shaming tactics, it is like talking to a woman, he proved my point

tagging people to dogpile because you can’t win an argument is feminine behavior

You didn’t dispute the fact that humans need love, affection and validation. As long as that’s true not all men should go MGTOW, only the men that can’t get those things anyways. And even then stuff like geomaxing and looksmaxxing is a better alternative than depriving yourself.

 

[Regular Doomer]

tagging people to dogpile because you can’t win an argument is feminine behavior

You didn’t dispute the fact that humans need love, affection and validation. As long as that’s true not all men should go MGTOW, only the men that can’t get those things anyways. And even then stuff like geomaxing and looksmaxxing is a better alternative than depriving yourself.

no bro, I alraedy won the argument 10 posts before you even try to shame anyone

you just proved my point coming way later

 

[VampyrMaxx]

no

Just wanted to return to this thread to say you are the most insufferable, nihlistic human being on this forum by a mile. Not only are you a fucking retard, but you are a genuine faggot, it is such a displeasure to talk to you, every time I see you comment on this forum it genuinely ruins my day.

Your mgtow ideology is so fucking retarded, youre probably a 400 pound faggot sitting behind his desk typing this shit out.

Doomer is so true, but youre more insufferable if anything.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

@Hernan @Gengar

Can we plz get this retarded faggot banned off the forum.

no

 

[Regular Doomer]

Just wanted to return to this thread to say you are the most insufferable, nihlistic human being on this forum by a mile. Not only are you a fucking retard, but you are a genuine faggot, it is such a displeasure to talk to you, every time I see you comment on this forum it genuinely ruins my day.

Your mgtow ideology is so fucking retarded, youre probably a 400 pound faggot sitting behind his desk typing this shit out.

Doomer is so true, but youre more insufferable if anything.

again you're proving my point exactly like I said you would

shaming tactics and not a single ounce of logic, just emotional arguments

I am gymaxxing and looksmaxing like a mad man, but yet I am not dating anymore, did that a lot already to know better

 

[Hernan]

@Hernan @Gengar

Can we plz get this retarded faggot banned off the forum.

Nope, not this one.

 

[Assymetry]

Cope, if you don’t get genuine desire and and only good to settle with, YOU WERE SENT YOUR OWN WAY. There is no way to twist this.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Cope, if you don’t get genuine desire and and only good to settle with, YOU WERE SENT YOUR OWN WAY. There is no way to twist this.

Retardation
Muh genuine desire
He thinks it’s a Disney movie

 

[Centurion_Hunter]

Distancing yourself from non-platonic relationships due to disliking their shallow nature and not wanting to participate in something so disingenuous, and instead realising only your self love is real, and prioritising yourself, is the most “blackpilled” thing one can do

The people who like to call themselves “blackpilled” are usually noobs who are validation slaves and are looks pilled. Wake up, every normie is looks pilled. That’s not “blackpilled”, that’s common sense

People like to cope and go “muh MSTOW”, as though someone couldn’t just betabux, get with some ugly girl, or even just have a regular normie relationship. An average man who goes his own way has not been “sent” his own way. He’s chosen to not jestermaxx and to prioritise himself. Attractive men should also go their own way. Would you want a friendship that was dependent on you looking good or being used for money etc? No? Then why would you want a romantic relationship like that?

The only way to win is to not participate, regardless of your looks level.

Now of course, MGTOW should ideally be part of general monkmaxxing (celibacymaxxing).

The most bpes would be for us to create an incel rights movement not to distance ourselves from foids since theyll still hunt us for being incels