Midcycle bloodwork of my Test 500mg + 40mg Anavar cycle

[broiscookingsomthin]

I am running 500mg Test Cyp per week I added anavar 20-30mg ED now.

I did mid cycle blood works and found that my liver is in excellent condition but my E2 is 48 pg/mL.
I have face bloat and some estrogenic side effects like mood swings lol, wanted to reduce them, also I have puberty gyno. I am 22M.

I have 2 options:
1. Reduce Test to 250mg EW and up the anavar to 50mg ED
2. Keep Test 500mg EW and 20mg Anavar ED,

What should I do?

 

[Etson]

Why not just take an AI 0.5mg like Anastrozole once a week?

300-350mg of T is enough (depending on your goals)

 

[hej1377]

Take a little bit of ai

 

[broiscookingsomthin]

Why not just take an AI 0.5mg like Anastrozole once a week?

300-350mg of T is enough (depending on your goals)

Sorry I didnt mention earlier, I am taking AI (0.5mg per week).

 

[broiscookingsomthin]

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Why not just take an AI 0.5mg like Anastrozole once a week?

300-350mg of T is enough (depending on your goals)

My goal is to not bulk like shit, just wanted to look more fuller and gain lean muscle while keeping bf less than 12%

 

[Greyascension]

Keep the 500mg weekly, but pin daily, and if needed take more ai or switch to aromasin

 

[Etson]

Sorry I didnt mention earlier, I am taking AI (0.5mg per week).

If you actually have Estrogenic Gyno and other symptoms, slightly up the dosage. But low E REALLY sucks, side effects are honestly worse than high E.

The Anavar is probably making estrogen sides feel worse than your E2 numbers, because Anavar tanks SHBG, which increases free E2. Even if your total E2 isn't high, more of it is free and hitting receptors which leads to more bloat, mood or your gyno.

Here's what I'd do, I'd keep the 500mg Test because this is driving most of your anabolic gains and drop your current Anavar to 20-30mg, but properly dial in the AI, you should increase your AI BASED on your symptoms and blood work. Assuming it's Arimidex, try 0.5mg every other day OR 0.25-0.5mg the days you pin. Retest E2 in 2-4 weeks and try to get around for 30-50 pg/m, or wherever you feel/see the LEAST amount of Estrogenic symptoms.





For the puberty gyno, there's been a bit of research on a SERM called Raloxifene. You can take 60mg everyday or try Nolva 20-40mg everyday for 4-6 weeks. This blocks E2 at the breast receptor without tanking systemic E2. Since you actually have symptoms you can take this to a doctor and get it prescribed.

 

[broiscookingsomthin]

If you actually have Estrogenic Gyno and other symptoms, slightly up the dosage. But low E REALLY sucks, side effects are honestly worse than high E.

The Anavar is probably making estrogen sides feel worse than your E2 numbers, because Anavar tanks SHBG, which increases free E2. Even if your total E2 isn't high, more of it is free and hitting receptors which leads to more bloat, mood or your gyno.

Here's what I'd do, I'd keep the 500mg Test because this is driving most of your anabolic gains and drop your current Anavar to 20-30mg, but properly dial in the AI, you should increase your AI BASED on your symptoms and blood work. Assuming it's Arimidex, try 0.5mg every other day OR 0.25-0.5mg the days you pin. Retest E2 in 2-4 weeks and try to get around for 30-50 pg/m, or wherever you feel/see the LEAST amount of Estrogenic symptoms.





For the puberty gyno, there's been a bit of research on a SERM called Raloxifene. You can take 60mg everyday or try Nolva 20-40mg everyday for 4-6 weeks. This blocks E2 at the breast receptor without tanking systemic E2. Since you actually have symptoms you can take this to a doctor and get it prescribed.

Thanks for the info but why I should reduce Anavar dose? it does not aromatise at all right? instead I thought I should up the Anavar dose, and regarding SHBG, when Anavar tanks SHBG it increases free testosterone which can then convert into estrogen and Test 500 dose directly aromatises into estrogen, hence its better to reduce Test dose and up the anavar right?

 

[Etson]

Thanks for the info but why I should reduce Anavar dose? it does not aromatise at all right? instead I thought I should up the Anavar dose, and regarding SHBG, when Anavar tanks SHBG it increases free testosterone which can then convert into estrogen and Test 500 dose directly aromatises into estrogen, hence its better to reduce Test dose and up the anavar right?

Yeah I was actually going to recommend that but I removed the other option cause I feel like the first option (the one I over) was better imo.

I recommended lowering Anavar because Anavar tanks SHBG hard, it often drops it pretty dramatically, even at moderate doses like 20-50mg. SHBG is what binds to both testosterone and estrogen in the blood. So when your SHBG crashes, more Free T becomes available, which then has more opportunity to aromatize into free estrogen. So even if your total E2 bloodwork looks okay, your FREE E2 hitting your receptors increases which leads to more bloat, mood swings, gyno sensitivity, etc.

 

[darkblueinkel]

I am running 500mg Test Cyp per week I added anavar 20-30mg ED now.

I did mid cycle blood works and found that my liver is in excellent condition but my E2 is 48 pg/mL.
I have face bloat and some estrogenic side effects like mood swings lol, wanted to reduce them, also I have puberty gyno. I am 22M.

I have 2 options:
1. Reduce Test to 250mg EW and up the anavar to 50mg ED
2. Keep Test 500mg EW and 20mg Anavar ED,

What should I do?

is it affecting ur gyno at all? i think 500 mg is a little high.

 

[acc_bolshevik]

Sorry I didnt mention earlier, I am taking AI (0.5mg per week).

take more arimidex, switch over to aromasin, or decrease your dose by 100mg