Midface is severely recessed but do i still look like i have slight forward growth

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Do I?

These are probably the closest to side images I have

 

[minty]

Midface is not the main issue, it's downgrowth. Your mandible is very downswung.

In all the photos you sent you're looking up to give the illusion of a flatter mandible. Here is one of these photos rotated to the frankfort plane, so you're looking straight ahead. Here you can see it's a jaw issue more than a midface issue.

 

[non-chalant]

u need ccw rotation

 

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Midface is not the main issue, it's downgrowth. Your mandible is very downswung.
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In all the photos you sent you're looking up to give the illusion of a flatter mandible. Here is one of these photos rotated to the frankfort plane, so you're looking straight ahead. Here you can see it's a jaw issue more than a midface issue.

Isnt this because of the madible trying to compensate for the recessed mid face, instead of growing forward with the maxilla it grew down and backwards with my maxilla

 

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u need ccw rotation

Yes my gonial angle is quite bad

 

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