Jmpace52
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I've tried everything. There is literally nothing on the clearnet anymore. Also
>Telegram
Not E2E encrypted, requires a phone number to identify you, (((closed source))), isn't decentralized and it glows in the dark.
>Discord
Proprietary bloatware.
>Mastodon
New users have to choose a server on which to open their account, but can follow and communicate with users of other Mastodon servers, although servers have the ability to ban other servers at their discretion. Joinmastodon.org contains a list of 106 Mastodon servers committed to the "Mastodon servers agreement," whereby each server agrees to enforce its own monitoring content, create backup copies of the site, and give users a three-month warning before suspending their accounts. Not as "decentralized" as it's claimed, eh? Also, it appears to just be another shitty Twitter spin-off. So no thanks.
>MeWe
Doesn't encrypt user data unless they pay for the service and it stores its data in the United States.
>Element
Centralized despite its claims to the contrary; will ban your account if you use matrix.org as your homeserver, p l us it somehow manages to be even worse bloatware than fucking Discord (it constantly freezes and crashes, and it sucks up all my goddamn memory).
>Hoop Messenger & TamTam
Yet more proprietary bloatware that requires a phone number like Telegram.
>Viber
Again, proprietary bloatware. Except this one bans VoIP numbers from signing up and yet it's supposedly for privacy L-M-A-O.
>RocketChat
The chats hosted on rocket.chat are all fucking dead and the dev team can see what you do on there, but not on the self-hosted ones.
There is no list of self-hosted workspaces anywhere. You have to create your own or join another one, but that's only if you know them by heart - you can't go searching for them like I did apparently. It's an app for businesses and the like, not for social chit-chat. It is extremely user-unfriendly to say the least. You need to self-host, but in order to do that, you need a PC (which I don't have because I'm broke). And that it must be Linux or something you're using so you can have access to terminal to use Docker or whatever to host RC on your personal website. You can join multiple rooms on the same account, but it's only if you use the desktop version. I don't know why they made it so that you have to create a new email for a new account on every workspace you join, but that's just what it is. The app sucks dick.
And it doesn't allow burner emails either, I've already tried.
I also tried XMPP/OTR/OMEMO and IRC (C0nnectPro & IRCCloud) but those were a nightmare to use because I'm technically illiterate. Wickr is owned by Amazon, Session glows, Signal glows, Skype is owned by Microsoft, WhatsApp is owned by FaceBerg, Kik and TextNow you should avoid, ZeroNet doesn't even work on my smartphone, Threema and Gettr I haven't tried but heard they're trash, I2P is a fucking nightnare trying to access so fuck that, plus more that I tried that were abject failures. So that brings me back to Tor. Y'see the Tor browser is decentralized and has lots of unregulated content and not only that, but it's active too. Almost everybody uses Tor now. Pretty soon it'll replace ICANN, as it's the only general purpose platform left. And it doesn't require a Batman-esque hacking skills just to use unlike so many others.
EDIT: I'm also looking into VPSes.
>Telegram
Not E2E encrypted, requires a phone number to identify you, (((closed source))), isn't decentralized and it glows in the dark.
>Discord
Proprietary bloatware.
>Mastodon
New users have to choose a server on which to open their account, but can follow and communicate with users of other Mastodon servers, although servers have the ability to ban other servers at their discretion. Joinmastodon.org contains a list of 106 Mastodon servers committed to the "Mastodon servers agreement," whereby each server agrees to enforce its own monitoring content, create backup copies of the site, and give users a three-month warning before suspending their accounts. Not as "decentralized" as it's claimed, eh? Also, it appears to just be another shitty Twitter spin-off. So no thanks.
>MeWe
Doesn't encrypt user data unless they pay for the service and it stores its data in the United States.
>Element
Centralized despite its claims to the contrary; will ban your account if you use matrix.org as your homeserver, p l us it somehow manages to be even worse bloatware than fucking Discord (it constantly freezes and crashes, and it sucks up all my goddamn memory).
>Hoop Messenger & TamTam
Yet more proprietary bloatware that requires a phone number like Telegram.
>Viber
Again, proprietary bloatware. Except this one bans VoIP numbers from signing up and yet it's supposedly for privacy L-M-A-O.
>RocketChat
The chats hosted on rocket.chat are all fucking dead and the dev team can see what you do on there, but not on the self-hosted ones.
There is no list of self-hosted workspaces anywhere. You have to create your own or join another one, but that's only if you know them by heart - you can't go searching for them like I did apparently. It's an app for businesses and the like, not for social chit-chat. It is extremely user-unfriendly to say the least. You need to self-host, but in order to do that, you need a PC (which I don't have because I'm broke). And that it must be Linux or something you're using so you can have access to terminal to use Docker or whatever to host RC on your personal website. You can join multiple rooms on the same account, but it's only if you use the desktop version. I don't know why they made it so that you have to create a new email for a new account on every workspace you join, but that's just what it is. The app sucks dick.
And it doesn't allow burner emails either, I've already tried.
I also tried XMPP/OTR/OMEMO and IRC (C0nnectPro & IRCCloud) but those were a nightmare to use because I'm technically illiterate. Wickr is owned by Amazon, Session glows, Signal glows, Skype is owned by Microsoft, WhatsApp is owned by FaceBerg, Kik and TextNow you should avoid, ZeroNet doesn't even work on my smartphone, Threema and Gettr I haven't tried but heard they're trash, I2P is a fucking nightnare trying to access so fuck that, plus more that I tried that were abject failures. So that brings me back to Tor. Y'see the Tor browser is decentralized and has lots of unregulated content and not only that, but it's active too. Almost everybody uses Tor now. Pretty soon it'll replace ICANN, as it's the only general purpose platform left. And it doesn't require a Batman-esque hacking skills just to use unlike so many others.
EDIT: I'm also looking into VPSes.
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