minoxidil ruins skin

[CopeTilliRope]

again i've hopped on minoxidil for the 4 th time and it took it less than 2 weeks to fucking ruins my skin ( enlarged pores / fucked up skin texture / bloating /wrinkly skin)

interesting enough even dr hasson from hasson and wang recognize and acknowledge the skin aging effect in this instagram live ( watch from minute 57 )



fuck that poison ( even tho it gives great eyelashes) that shit is only viable if you're a youngcell with lot of collagen to loose. gonna take me a year to recover again

 

[smoothsexy]

Oral minox?

 

[CopeTilliRope]

Oral minox?

i tried both and both fucks me up but oral at 2.5 mg was even worst in terms of enlarged pores. btw he tells he can litteraly spot which patient are on minox on not just by looking at their face and so do i tbh


i got 12 years of hairloss experience with the drug and tbh i'm convinced the one claiming no skin aging sides are guys under 20 with plenty of collagen left( i had no wrinkles when i started ) or delusional guys who always had shit skin.

i had litteraly perfect skin that was my only good features zero wrinkles or pores so i can definitely tell the sllightest difference not like those dudes already full of forehead lines at 17

on a positive note i always recovered from the damage but it takes litteraly a full year

and for those not beleiving me just browse that retarded minoxbeard subreddit it's ridiculous how those guys all end up with a10+ year old face

 

[LastGerman]

fuck that poison ( even tho it gives great eyelashes) that shit is only viable if you're a youngcell with lot of collagen to loose. gonna take me a year to recover again

I did take minoxidil for the beard back then and it fucked up my joints.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

I did take minoxidil for the beard back then and it fucked up my joints.

maybe you're hypersensitive to it so i won't it call it bullshit. btw minox is a fucking godsend for hair eyelashes and eyebrows it just come with too many bad sides especially for hyperresponders

and to all calling it fearmongering i litteraly have a twin brother who used it non stop for the past 12 years he look 20 years older than me litteraly.
we both had top tier aging genes but once you hit 25/26 minox will catch on you fast af

 

[LastGerman]

maybe you're hypersensitive to it so i won't it call it bullshit. btw minox is a fucking godsend for hair eyelashes and eyebrows it just come with too many bad sides especially for hyperresponders

It really did help me out growing a better beard though but as soon as my joints went bad, I had to stop. I still have joint problems to this day and it actually did not get any better.
I might be some special case though - so for everyone who is going for a better beard, minoxidil can help you out.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

It really did help me out growing a better beard though but as soon as my joints went bad, I had to stop. I still have joint problems to this day and it actually did not get any better.
I might be some special case though - so for everyone who is going for a better beard, minoxidil can help you out.

yeah and the good part is tha in case of beard you just have to apply long enough for it to go terminal . i was stupid enough to try that shit at 22 and still got the beard

 

[Deleted member 24940]

How does it ruin collagen if you put it on your head? Topical has no effect on face.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

i litteraly have a twin brother who used it non stop for the past 12 years he look 20 years older than me litteraly.

Larp confirmed, no one uses minox for 12 years when the hairs become permanent after 1-2 years max

 

[Orc]

it's dissolved in alcohol, no shit it's bad for your skin.

you have to be extremely careful with the run off or get a variant that isn't alcohol based.

everything you describe is literally just a symptom of what alcohol does on skin long term.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

Larp confirmed, no one uses minox for 12 years when the hairs become permanent after 1-2 years max

scalp hair ? man wtf are you on good to know you solved mbp for mankind if hair becomes permanent after 1 or 2 years of minox you just put tsuji and hope medecine bankrupt

no offense do you even know anything about mbp and minox at all man ? i'm an oldcell i started using minox at 18 .

minox goes systemic that's the issue the effect are not localized to the area of application hence the hypertrichosis of eyebrow and eyelashes.

vegf and pge2 augmentation is what create that antifibrotic effect which fucked up face but please feel free to try it by yourself


no here have more experience with this fucking poison i tried all the minox vehicle possible on earth ( entire fagron catalogue even coumpounded a cyclosporine one ) always the same shit it will fuck you up it will take 1 month for some or a few years for others but trust me it will and again the vehicle as nothing to do with it

 

[Deleted member 24940]

man wtf are you on good to know you solved mbp for mankind if hair becomes permanent after 1 or 2 years

If you take finasteride the hairs stop falling out. Yes the results are permanent after 1 or 2 years.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

If you take finasteride the hairs stop falling out. Yes the results are permanent after 1 or 2 years.

man again no offense but do you think finasteride is some miracle drug ? when you got agressive mbp it's the same as taking a sugar pill i'm on dut 0.5mg + ru 50 mg alongside topical estriol daily for 5 years and even that isn't stopping hairline recession

that's the thing with this forum you probably don't even take finasteride yourself and clearly clueless about mbp

and what do you mean by " the results are permanent after 1 or 2 years" do you think you can get off fin and the hair will be miraculously clean from the androgen damaging it ..... you clearly know nothing about androgenetic alopecia mechanism

 

[Deleted member 21531]

man again no offense but do you think finasteride is some miracle drug ? when you got agressive mbp it's the same as taking a sugar pill i'm on dut 0.5mg + ru 50 mg alongside topical estriol daily for 5 years and even that isn't stopping hairline recession

that's the thing with this forum you probably don't even take finasteride yourself and clearly clueless about mbp

and what do you mean by " the results are permanent after 1 or 2 years" do you think you can get off fin and the hair will be miraculously clean from the androgen damaging it ..... you clearly know nothing about androgenetic alopecia mechanism

He means you can keep minox gains on scalp by taking fin, theoretically

 

[Deleted member 15698]

Doubt it. I’m on 5mg oral and it didn’t affect my skin at all. I think it’s a combination of bloating, and topical causing local skin dehydration & irritation because of the alcohol. Oral fixes the topical issues, more potassium and water fixes the bloating

 

[max_frisch]

i tried both and both fucks me up but oral at 2.5 mg was even worst in terms of enlarged pores. btw he tells he can litteraly spot which patient are on minox on not just by looking at their face and so do i tbh


i got 12 years of hairloss experience with the drug and tbh i'm convinced the one claiming no skin aging sides are guys under 20 with plenty of collagen left( i had no wrinkles when i started ) or delusional guys who always had shit skin.

i had litteraly perfect skin that was my only good features zero wrinkles or pores so i can definitely tell the sllightest difference not like those dudes already full of forehead lines at 17

on a positive note i always recovered from the damage but it takes litteraly a full year

and for those not beleiving me just browse that retarded minoxbeard subreddit it's ridiculous how those guys all end up with a10+ year old face

you could try to microdose oral. down to 0.25mg apparently even though its controversial

 

[LastGerman]

yeah and the good part is tha in case of beard you just have to apply long enough for it to go terminal . i was stupid enough to try that shit at 22 and still got the beard

Is there any cure for my joints? I have been taking grass-fed bone marrow for some time. Perhaps I need to increase the intake...

 

[Deleted member 24940]

man again no offense but do you think finasteride is some miracle drug ? when you got agressive mbp it's the same as taking a sugar pill i'm on dut 0.5mg + ru 50 mg alongside topical estriol daily for 5 years and even that isn't stopping hairline recession

that's the thing with this forum you probably don't even take finasteride yourself and clearly clueless about mbp

and what do you mean by " the results are permanent after 1 or 2 years" do you think you can get off fin and the hair will be miraculously clean from the androgen damaging it ..... you clearly know nothing about androgenetic alopecia mechanism

I've been taken 1 mg finasteride for the last 3 years. It completely halted my hairloss, it's not my fault your subhuman genetics make you bald even on fin.

 

[Jigen]

I’m using topical 5% minoxidil on my eyebrows right now. Only negative side effect I’m noticing is the shedding of my brows. I hope this is normal and part of the process

 

[agoostis]

would never put minox anywhere else than on my scalp if im ever balding

why would you put it on ur face jfl

 

[gribsufer1]

what do u do for hairloss?

 

[makeme183]

again i've hopped on minoxidil for the 4 th time and it took it less than 2 weeks to fucking ruins my skin ( enlarged pores / fucked up skin texture / bloating /wrinkly skin)

what's your skincare routine ? are you on tret ?

more water fixes the bloating

sounds counterintuitive
how can taking in more water prevent bloating ? when the bloating is due to water in the first place ?
also, are you on fin as well ?
why 5mg and not 2.5mg ?

you could try to microdose oral. down to 0.25mg apparently even though its controversial

why is it controversial ?
I read that 1.25mg is the minimum effective dose

 

[Deleted member 15698]

what's your skincare routine ? are you on tret ?

sounds counterintuitive
how can taking in more water prevent bloating ? when the bloating is due to water in the first place ?
also, are you on fin as well ?
why 5mg and not 2.5mg ?

why is it controversial ?
I read that 1.25mg is the minimum effective dose

Research it
Yes
More minox more hair

 

[makeme183]

Research it

I have read that research
bloating there means stomach discomfort due to constipation and gas
it doesn't mean face bloat due to minox

minox is a vasodilator - causes dilation of capillaries that lead to leakage of fluid into the interstitial space - edema - face bloating

that's why autists on org take lasix - cuz lasix pulls that water out of the face

 

[Deleted member 15698]

I have read that research
bloating there means stomach discomfort due to constipation and gas
it doesn't mean face bloat due to minox

minox is a vasodilator - causes dilation of capillaries that lead to leakage of fluid into the interstitial space - edema - face bloating

that's why autists on org take lasix - cuz lasix pulls that water out of the face

Lol

I feel for you guys, none of you read the studies, you just get your knowledge from one guy who skimmed the abstract and misinterpreted it

Vasodilators are good for your skin (within reason) and don’t cause bloating. Improved blood flow is good, which is why smoking is bad for your skin (vasoconstriction)

Minoxidil causes bloating by triggering increased water retention via sodium retention. You counter this through potassium, which is antagonistic with sodium therefore mitigates its minox induced excess.

In general, more water consumption results in less bloating. If you drink less you retain less

 

[max_frisch]

what's your skincare routine ? are you on tret ?

sounds counterintuitive
how can taking in more water prevent bloating ? when the bloating is due to water in the first place ?
also, are you on fin as well ?
why 5mg and not 2.5mg ?

why is it controversial ?
I read that 1.25mg is the minimum effective dose

prof. rodney sinclair has prescribed 0.25-5mg oral minoxidil and to his claim its been effective. but i never did some thoughts on minoxdil. just sth i read.

has there a study done with on males with a dosis lower then 1.25 with hair count?

with a quick google search i found this

"Safety first. Jiminez-Caughe assessed 14 studies including 442 patients. LDOM was used at doses between 0.25 and 5 mg for 8 different types of alopecia. Hypertrichosis was observed in 24% of patients. Pedal edema occurred in 2% and was also associated with higher doses of LDOM."

maybe if you take a closer look into this you will find the answer

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[makeme183]

tag me if you have it lol

is it controversial cuz of the heart sides ?

@FloridaDude the info both of you guys have given is lifefuel tbh

2 questions arise:
1.is 5mg oral minox the highest we can take without sides ?
2.Is 5mg oral minox adequate on its own to stop/regrow hair without fin ?

 

[Deleted member 15698]

is it controversial cuz of the heart sides ?

@FloridaDude the info both of you guys have given is lifefuel tbh

2 questions arise:
1.is 5mg oral minox the highest we can take without sides ?
2.Is 5mg oral minox adequate on its own to stop/regrow hair without fin ?

I suspect 10mg would be safe and more efficacious. But, 5mg is the highest dose proven to be safe long term in hair loss studies. As it’s very powerful, I feel comfortable sticking on that


No. If you are a man, you cannot stop hair loss with anything or any combination of anything if you’re not using fin, Dutasteride, or a strong topical antiandrogen like RU. You will still bald.

 

[max_frisch]

is it controversial cuz of the heart sides ?

@FloridaDude the info both of you guys have given is lifefuel tbh

2 questions arise:
1.is 5mg oral minox the highest we can take without sides ?
2.Is 5mg oral minox adequate on its own to stop/regrow hair without fin ?

no controversial if it would do anything for the hair

but since there apparently studies done on 0,25mg it would be interesting to read the outcome

 

[Deleted member 24940]

I’m using topical 5% minoxidil on my eyebrows right now. Only negative side effect I’m noticing is the shedding of my brows. I hope this is normal and part of the process

Initial shedding means it's working.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

is it controversial cuz of the heart sides ?

@FloridaDude the info both of you guys have given is lifefuel tbh

2 questions arise:
1.is 5mg oral minox the highest we can take without sides ?
2.Is 5mg oral minox adequate on its own to stop/regrow hair without fin ?

Just use topical. Only 1% of topical minox goes systematic so you avoid all the sides by using that instead of oral shit which is sketchy.

 

[makeme183]

I suspect 10mg would be safe and more efficacious. But, 5mg is the highest dose proven to be safe long term in hair loss studies. As it’s very powerful, I feel comfortable sticking on that

yeah ,10mg and up were used for anti hypertension rather than hairfall
so you had zero sides from min ? how long have you been using it ?
do you have a skincare routine ? do you use tret ?
age ?

no controversial if it would do anything for the hair

but since there apparently studies done on 0,25mg it would be interesting to read the outcome

ah yes , we could try taking it for 6 months and see if there's a difference

Just use topical. Only 1% of topical minox goes systematic so you avoid all the sides by using that instead of oral shit which is sketchy.

topical doesn't work well if you have problem with your enzyme on the scalp(minox is a prodrug)
in oral , the liver converts it to active form
also, applying topical is a pain

Initial shedding means it's working.

I'm scared of this
apparently , some guys had severe permanent shed which left them worse than before

No. If you are a man, you cannot stop hair loss with anything or any combination of anything if you’re not using fin, Dutasteride, or a strong topical antiandrogen like RU. You will still bald.

ok hear me out

hairloss happens due to DHT binding to the AR - causing downstream changes - finally leads to vasoconstriction and cuts of blood supply to the hair follicle
Fin stops the first step by reducing DHT
Min stops the last step by vasodilation

so theoretically , as long as you could counteract the vasoconstriction due to DHT with min , your hair should stay intact no matter how much DHT you have in your system , right ?

 

[Deleted member 15698]

Correct. No sides, I’ve been on 5mg for 3 months. I’m 27 and have a good skincare routine. Minox has caused zero changes in my skin

 

[max_frisch]

yeah ,10mg and up were used for anti hypertension rather than hairfall
so you had zero sides from min ? how long have you been using it ?
do you have a skincare routine ? do you use tret ?
age ?

ah yes , we could try taking it for 6 months and see if there's a difference

topical doesn't work well if you have problem with your enzyme on the scalp(minox is a prodrug)
in oral , the liver converts it to active form
also, applying topical is a pain

I'm scared of this
apparently , some guys had severe permanent shed which left them worse than before

ok hear me out

hairloss happens due to DHT binding to the AR - causing downstream changes - finally leads to vasoconstriction and cuts of blood supply to the hair follicle
Fin stops the first step by reducing DHT
Min stops the last step by vasodilation

so theoretically , as long as you could counteract the vasoconstriction due to DHT with min , your hair should stay intact no matter how much DHT you have in your system , right ?

you dont need to try you just need to google the study and read about the results tbh