Mirroring tactics are good if the woman isn't entirely superficial. It is a cornerstone of PUA.

[Deleted member 1242]

If you try to mirror her views, political, musically, culturally, etc. and add on some well canned material wit, then maybe you can at least have an audience. But eventually down the line you have ot take your dick out. So the checkboxing will ensue sometime until you got to show your face. You can wear the best clothes, best underwear, but you gotta take your raw value (dick) out that is most judged (unchangeable value).
And the least changeable value works.
So essentially PUA has some legit tactics, but mirroing really works. Ultimately though it's a scam that tries to factor out the most important thing which their customers get coping skills to deal with, ugliness.

But mirroring works better than anything in itself, and mirroring which requires non-autism/ NT, still down the line requires looks.

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Look in the mirror, youll see why it doesnt work.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

Look in the mirror, youll see why it doesnt work.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Thats the most low T post ive read. You dont try to appeal to her women can sense that naturally and have low respect for you.
When she looses interest in you due to you having different oppinions she wasnt actually attractet to you that much in the first place.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

Thats the most low T post ive read. You dont try to appeal to her women can sense that naturally and have low respect for you.
When she looses interest in you due to you having different oppinions she wasnt actually attractet to you that much in the first place.

No it's not like you just agree with everything. You just camouflage with a natural amount of agreeance with things, leaving some things in disagreement.
And women don't like men with differing opinions, some women don't break principle just for attraction.
Yes if she isn't willing to break principle
But a girl's level of principality differs. Yes women are hormonal animals but it's an overgeneralization to say all are just knuckledragging chimps. If you tell a liberal you like to throw pork at muslims then you'll get rejected unless you're so chad that you'll get leeway.
But that's not all it is with women and it's better to have your looks bases covered, but you gotta have your principality/ commonality bases covered too. And HER intuition not suspecting you're artificially making everything fit together.
Of course women will break principle. But enough disprinciple for a guy, if she's not a superficial slut (My modifier in title) will begin to outweigh your benefit. But there are hard lines in the sand for some principled girls. I grew up in Seattle, I know that attractive dudes can lose girls just becuase of opinion.
Women are naturally maternal, and believe in preserving their idea of sacred in an emotional way. It's why women are tender towards white genes/ white trad culture (repuvlicans), Jesus (christians), leftism, etc.
Women don't really believe in survival of the fittest overtly like men do, and if they do it's rare.
They just believe in it on a subconscious hindmind basis, but foremindedly they're being sweet and tender. Even when being total cunts. Cognitive cuntish dissonance.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

chad disagrees with girls on everything but they don't care

 

[Deleted member 2621]

No it's not like you just agree with everything. You just camouflage with a natural amount of agreeance with things, leaving some things in disagreement.
And women don't like men with differing opinions, some women don't break principle just for attraction.
Yes if she isn't willing to break principle
But a girl's level of principality differs. Yes women are hormonal animals but it's an overgeneralization to say all are just knuckledragging chimps. If you tell a liberal you like to throw pork at muslims then you'll get rejected unless you're so chad that you'll get leeway.
But that's not all it is with women and it's better to have your looks bases covered, but you gotta have your principality/ commonality bases covered too. And HER intuition not suspecting you're artificially making everything fit together.
Of course women will break principle. But enough disprinciple for a guy, if she's not a superficial slut (My modifier in title) will begin to outweigh your benefit. But there are hard lines in the sand for some principled girls. I grew up in Seattle, I know that attractive dudes can lose girls just becuase of opinion.
Women are naturally maternal, and believe in preserving their idea of sacred in an emotional way. It's why women are tender towards white genes/ white trad culture (repuvlicans), Jesus (christians), leftism, etc.
Women don't really believe in survival of the fittest overtly like men do, and if they do it's rare.
They just believe in it on a subconscious hindmind basis, but foremindedly they're being sweet and tender. Even when being total cunts. Cognitive cuntish dissonance.

Pua is real. Lookstheory, too. I agree

 

[Fubarcel]

Fuck that, imagine being untrue to yourself for the off chance of scoring pussy.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

chad disagrees with girls on everything but they don't care

Not if they're not superficial, which means they esteem something primally that's not on the physical level. They're not your common girl, but they exist and some of them are hot.
Even so, still you're making an overgeneralization.

Fuck that, imagine being untrue to yourself for the off chance of scoring pussy.

Principles are social constructs. Ultimately if you're a dark triad maxxer there is no good or evil, just leverage points and leverage stumps.
If you were in a position where you couldn't survive you'll wish you lived as a dark triadder from square one.

 

[Anasurimbor]

It can work if you operate with her through the social circle and genuinely share mutual hobbies and interests. But trying to mimic it? women are very good at intuition and they can feel your intentions. It will require a huge effort from you and in the end, you just gonna end up as another performer. And it never ends well.

I'm more inclined to follow paul jankas philosophy which is more sustainable and healthy in the long term. This is the quote from his book-

Sexual tension arises out of polarity, as David Deida repeatedly makes clear in his fantastic book The Way of the Superior Man. Don’t be afraid to use the magnetism you feel toward a woman; just use it responsibly. As you drive the relationship forward, either on the scale of minutes or months, remember that your duty is to be an aggressor and continue to penetrate her feminine layers. Each time you challenge her opinion, decline an offer or suggestion, act independently, make a decision or overrule her objection, you are penetrating her. She will be turned on by this and draw closer to you mentally, emotionally and physically. The more you lovingly penetrate her, the tighter the dynamic becomes and stronger the polarity becomes. Until sexual union, your role is to penetrate everything about this beautiful woman.

Sex is the culmination of a series of smaller, subtle, negotiated penetrations – of time, though, intent and agenda.

Don’t think you’re going to have sex with a woman – which is an agreed-upon violation (think hymen) – without driving through some resistance. The key here is to now when you can’t move forward, and when you can negotiate an incremental advance. Negotiation happens in many verbal and non-verbal ways. (c)

 

[Deleted member 1242]

It can work if you operate with her through the social circle and genuinely share mutual hobbies and interests. But trying to mimic it? women are very good at intuition and they can feel your intentions. It will require a huge effort from you and in the end, you just gonna end up as another performer. And it never ends well.

I'm more inclined to follow paul jankas philosophy which is more sustainable and healthy in the long term. This is the quote from his book-

Sexual tension arises out of polarity, as David Deida repeatedly makes clear in his fantastic book The Way of the Superior Man. Don’t be afraid to use the magnetism you feel toward a woman; just use it responsibly. As you drive the relationship forward, either on the scale of minutes or months, remember that your duty is to be an aggressor and continue to penetrate her feminine layers. Each time you challenge her opinion, decline an offer or suggestion, act independently, make a decision or overrule her objection, you are penetrating her. She will be turned on by this and draw closer to you mentally, emotionally and physically. The more you lovingly penetrate her, the tighter the dynamic becomes and stronger the polarity becomes. Until sexual union, your role is to penetrate everything about this beautiful woman.

Sex is the culmination of a series of smaller, subtle, negotiated penetrations – of time, though, intent and agenda.

Don’t think you’re going to have sex with a woman – which is an agreed-upon violation (think hymen) – without driving through some resistance. The key here is to now when you can’t move forward, and when you can negotiate an incremental advance. Negotiation happens in many verbal and non-verbal ways. (c)

Which is why I said again that making reverse psychological counter-bait snares will veer her intuition away, and then saying anti pretentious sentiments every cahnce you get, and often bringing up people in a mature moral outrage if they're fake, but not being EXCLUSIVELY morally outraged at people's fakery.
Use every time you're relying on reverse psychological means to get her mind to like yours to be an aggressive alpha dominaotr or whatever. But doing this makes everything secured easily.
This is of course with the intuitive women.
There are so many ways to reverse a female's intuition that you don't have to sit and have a meditation about the limits of it. Only if you have moral qualms about screwing intuition over.
Of course if women simply don't like your look they won't give you a chance in the first place, and they love to influence their thinking to make a mountain out of any molehill.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Every woman is superficial.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Look in the mirror, youll see why it doesnt work.

 

[Deleted member 3635]

If you try to mirror her views, political, musically, culturally, etc. and add on some well canned material wit, then maybe you can at least have an audience. But eventually down the line you have ot take your dick out. So the checkboxing will ensue sometime until you got to show your face. You can wear the best clothes, best underwear, but you gotta take your raw value (dick) out that is most judged (unchangeable value).
And the least changeable value works.
So essentially PUA has some legit tactics, but mirroing really works. Ultimately though it's a scam that tries to factor out the most important thing which their customers get coping skills to deal with, ugliness.

But mirroring works better than anything in itself, and mirroring which requires non-autism/ NT, still down the line requires looks.

Cringepost and low T be yourself you will actually get more respect when you have opposing views if she respects you she will actually mirror you

 

[Deleted member 1242]

Cringepost and low T be yourself you will actually get more respect when you have opposing views if she respects you she will actually mirror you

First you have to be high value first, and if she consciously or unconsciously likes to be objectified. This is a viable tactic if you find a girl primally invested in you. If not, you have to resort to engaging conversation, being the niche in the hole, often works/helps when a girl was lonely and mistreated and wants for actual company.
Not all girls are outgoing valley stacies.
And it helps if girls are not fully attached to their principles, and prefer a dominant man over them. They'll feel more edgy that way. but if you don't have the looks budget for that laidback PUA shit.

Every woman is superficial.

For the most part. Mirroring tactics are valid on a micro level though but don't count on them working on every girl. They can however boost you especially if you're not acting as if you're using it like a one trick pony. Make it happen like it was accidental.
The primal hierarchy is real, it's just your task to make girls forget about it, and if they don't forget then signal value in every possible way and make it happen like it was an accidental occurrence you are valuemaxxing.
Make all you do imply dominance, and sabotage the better looking.
You do need to have primarchal pull to take her investment away from her own views, especially if you're doing the most clever neggaslighting (negging and gaslighting) and then make her feel validated only by you. But to do that you need to also have a circle of betas that make you their validational bar.

I hate when normfags say that not being yourself is low T. In reality taking things without yourself in question is predatory skillfulness.
And most people who I've known who are millionaires are insecure, and not the bullshit trope that they're all like how germans think of david hasselhoff.
If you recklessly are yourself without strategy and awareness then girls will just find you to be an emboldened dumbfuck. Even girls want guys to not be unsociopathic/ not untrue. At least, some of them, the most intelligent, or strategic among them.
Women love dominance. Whether the guy behind the whole thing is being himself or not usually gets hindbrained, but the outer superficiality is usually in the forebrain most of the time especially for the myopic view of females.
Being yourself is raw brute masculinity of T, you need to feign it, with more sophistication if you're not top tier, or else you're just a sloppy ogre going around without refinement. The more intelligent the girl the more intuitive and usually the harder to dominate. Majority of divorces are started by college educated women. But that doesn't mean there aren't hot pieces of pussy out there you can impregnate to make it too late for her.

 

[Deleted member 3635]

First you have to be high value first, and if she consciously or unconsciously likes to be objectified. This is a viable tactic if you find a girl primally invested in you. If not, you have to resort to engaging conversation, being the niche in the hole, often works/helps when a girl was lonely and mistreated and wants for actual company.
Not all girls are outgoing valley stacies.
And it helps if girls are not fully attached to their principles, and prefer a dominant man over them. They'll feel more edgy that way. but if you don't have the looks budget for that laidback PUA shit.

For the most part. Mirroring tactics are valid on a micro level though but don't count on them working on every girl. They can however boost you especially if you're not acting as if you're using it like a one trick pony. Make it happen like it was accidental.
The primal hierarchy is real, it's just your task to make girls forget about it, and if they don't forget then signal value in every possible way and make it happen like it was an accidental occurrence you are valuemaxxing.
Make all you do imply dominance, and sabotage the better looking.
You do need to have primarchal pull to take her investment away from her own views, especially if you're doing the most clever neggaslighting (negging and gaslighting) and then make her feel validated only by you. But to do that you need to also have a circle of betas that make you their validational bar.

I hate when normfags say that not being yourself is low T. In reality taking things without yourself in question is predatory skillfulness.
And most people who I've known who are millionaires are insecure, and not the bullshit trope that they're all like how germans think of david hasselhoff.
If you recklessly are yourself without strategy and awareness then girls will just find you to be an emboldened dumbfuck. Even girls want guys to not be unsociopathic/ not untrue. At least, some of them, the most intelligent, or strategic among them.
Women love dominance. Whether the guy behind the whole thing is being himself or not usually gets hindbrained, but the outer superficiality is usually in the forebrain most of the time especially for the myopic view of females.
Being yourself is raw brute masculinity of T, you need to feign it, with more sophistication if you're not top tier, or else you're just a sloppy ogre going around without refinement. The more intelligent the girl the more intuitive and usually the harder to dominate. Majority of divorces are started by college educated women. But that doesn't mean there aren't hot pieces of pussy out there you can impregnate to make it too late for her.

Didnt read op ur a fag for pretending to like shit for pussy typical male feminist shit

 

[SteveRogers]

Don't mirror shit, that's unattractive, instead be as high t as possible, be alpha, be the leader of your group, that's what women gravitate to.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

Don't mirror shit, that's unattractive, instead be as high t as possible, be alpha, be the leader of your group, that's what women gravitate to.

Bluepill. Lmao.

Didnt read op ur a fag for pretending to like shit for pussy typical male feminist shit

Man this place is so not serious about maxxxing everything.
Looksmaxxing is a given but if you can't do that to an effective extent, then you must dark triad no exceptions.

 

[Uncle Sam]

you don't have to actually agree with someone to look like you do, just show knowledge about the topic and they'll assume you agree with them

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Bluepill. Lmao.

Man this place is so not serious about maxxxing everything.
Looksmaxxing is a given but if you can't do that to an effective extent, then you must dark triad no exceptions.

You realize pretending to be something to get pussy will only have a negative feedback loop your brain gets rewarded for pretending to be X soon you actually be X

Confidence is a psychological dimorphic trait u show 0 of it by pretending to like what she does

 

[Deleted member 1242]

you don't have to actually agree with someone to look like you do, just show knowledge about the topic and they'll assume you agree with them

Thats obviously what im trying to say.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

You realize pretending to be something to get pussy will only have a negative feedback loop your brain gets rewarded for pretending to be X soon you actually be X

Confidence is a psychological dimorphic trait u show 0 of it by pretending to like what she does

And? She first has to know that you're pretending which if you let happen then you're not following anything properly.

 

[SteveRogers]

Bluepill. Lmao.

Hey buddy, get the fuck off this site if you're gonna call educated advice "bluepill", I've been with more women in the last hour than you've been with in your entire life.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

Hey buddy, get the fuck off this site if you're gonna call educated advice "bluepill", I've been with more women in the last hour than you've been with in your entire life.

Given it's good to be someone who leads the conversation, if you're chad. but the more you aren't the more you're gonna have to bait them first with being agreeable, then disagreeing/ negging with paradigm sharing first. No overgeneralizations plz.

 

[Lorsss]

Despite my wide knowledge in every human discipline I never managed to fuck a non-fat girl.

With girl who study Art History at college I talk about Art, with Girls who are in STEM I have discussions about technolgy.
There is no conversation skill to overcome a recessed mandible, this thread is bluepilled and needs to me moved to offTopic

 

[SteveRogers]

No overgeneralizations plz.

If you're doing research into what a girl likes and dislikes, you've already lost. If you are just at a bar or a club, just ask questions, have general wit and have an alpha vibe; just research body language and learn to adapt to the energy that people like me naturally have. This will get you laid. If you genuinely like a girl and want to have a relationship with her, it's ALL about first impressions, take her somewhere where you are at your best, for me that's a local bar, or a teppanyaki restaurant. The conversation will be VERY easy as there is shit happening around you that you can talk about, if she starts asking you questions, she's a lost cause, why? Cause she's having to be the alpha, don't be knowledgeable about shit, then she'll ask you questions, she won't be impressed that you know who the CEO Victoria Secrets is, she'll subconsciously see you as a high E fan of hers. Make sure you engage her in conversations as a secondary person, so, for example, I talk to bartenders that I know and have strong interesting conversations with them, but keep introducing the bird into the convo. Also, EYE CONTACT.

 

[Deleted member 1242]

Despite my wide knowledge in every human discipline I never managed to fuck a non-fat girl.

With girl who study Art History at college I talk about Art, with Girls who are in STEM I have discussions about technolgy.
There is no conversation skill to overcome a recessed mandible, this thread is bluepilled and needs to me moved to offTopic

True but signalling commonality gives a plus if she's not creeped out by your looks.

If you're doing research into what a girl likes and dislikes, you've already lost. If you are just at a bar or a club, just ask questions, have general wit and have an alpha vibe; just research body language and learn to adapt to the energy that people like me naturally have. This will get you laid. If you genuinely like a girl and want to have a relationship with her, it's ALL about first impressions, take her somewhere where you are at your best, for me that's a local bar, or a teppanyaki restaurant. The conversation will be VERY easy as there is shit happening around you that you can talk about, if she starts asking you questions, she's a lost cause, why? Cause she's having to be the alpha, don't be knowledgeable about shit, then she'll ask you questions, she won't be impressed that you know who the CEO Victoria Secrets is, she'll subconsciously see you as a high E fan of hers. Make sure you engage her in conversations as a secondary person, so, for example, I talk to bartenders that I know and have strong interesting conversations with them, but keep introducing the bird into the convo. Also, EYE CONTACT.

Maybe for alpha chads. Finding niche girls with a high IQ like i have can boost the value to become a chad in a girl's mind. This is unquestionable, it's happened before with me before I looksmaxxed BUT however it does have a half life because eventually your voice, your mind begins to ring/ resonate plainly since all is based on reward system. And reward system of looks far exceeds finding someone of good company, especially with the vast rate of esoteric-signallers. And women can find out you're full of shit if you're not careful.
But real, concrete looks if you're gigachad give constant reward system to a girl.
Watch out though, if someone comes close to your gigachaddery, women can cheat, especially if they're younger.Women want to taste all forms of Chad if they're degenerate and not traditional.

 

[SteveRogers]

True but signalling commonality gives a plus if she's not creeped out by your looks.



Maybe for alpha chads. Finding niche girls with a high IQ like i have can boost the value to become a chad in a girl's mind. This is unquestionable, it's happened before with me before I looksmaxxed BUT however it does have a half life because eventually your voice, your mind begins to ring/ resonate plainly since all is based on reward system. And reward system of looks far exceeds finding someone of good company, especially with the vast rate of esoteric-signallers. And women can find out you're full of shit if you're not careful.
But real, concrete looks if you're gigachad give constant reward system to a girl.
Watch out though, if someone comes close to your gigachaddery, women can cheat, especially if they're younger.Women want to taste all forms of Chad if they're degenerate and not traditional.

Agreed 100% brother