Sloppyseconds
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Intro
Perhaps I saw it as a way to create a fresh start for myself after having completely fucked up my statusmaxxing journey through chess back in elementary school. Nothing earth-shattering like that ever happened again in high school. Nonetheless, it was a slow-burning blackpill experience mainly because I had this 6’4 Middle Eastern low-trust MTN classmate. He must’ve been at least 220 pounds and was a complete frame mogger with zero training. While every other guy entered high school averaging 5’4, he was already a whole foot taller and looking like he was 38 with a 5 o'clock shadow and all. He was the quintessential early bloomer and basically stayed the same height for the rest of high school. I bet for girls, seeing a guy like him with massive shoulders and all was the equivalent of us seeing a JB with massive tits walk past in high school, no matter how fucked up her face is. Her tits would hypnotically jiggle after every step she took. The feeling wasn't much different from seeing a B-2 bomber fly over your school. You just can't help but stand there and watch in awe with a hand on your hip like "fuarrrrk look at those nuclear warheads". Meanwhile, I grew up to just over 5’11 (181-182cm) and MTN by the end of high school, lanky with long legs and short torso (peaked at 6’0 or 183cm at 19). I was the “king of manlets” by the end of high school, and that was quite suifuel. Even though I facially mogged the 6’4 guy by then, it was already too late. Being an early bloomer meant his presence was already imprinted into the minds of all the JBs in my class. Not to mention he still SMV mogged me with his sheer physicality. Basically just imagine xQc being up against an uglier version of HasanAbi.
Despite that guy being one of the worst students in my class, girls liked him a lot (no surprise). Even the “squishy squishy” exchange students often huddled around him during chemistry class (ironically). Looking back, I thought RIP to their future betabux husbands back in South Korea. Their country’s birth rate is already non-existent, good lord. Admittedly, I hated studying and often crammed to barely squeeze in a top mark for the sake of drowning in pussy. Even though I managed to be one of the highest performing students in my class, it wasn’t enough. At most, I got some quiet respect and acknowledgements from some classmates, friends and teachers, but that was it, to my disappointment. That Middle Eastern guy continued having harems, and god knows how many hymens he broke. I was like Tai Lung in Kung Fu Panda finally opening the dragon scroll. But instead of drowning in pussy left, right and center, “It’s nothing”, like Tai Lung said. And here I am on this site today.
Glamor in chess and sports
The “betterment of mankind” cope
Academia cuckoldry
AI and creativity
The point of posting on this site
Ending remarks
TL;DR:
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In my early days of high school, I used to obsess over my finger speed since I was a guitarcel, and used to play this giga aspie game called “Cookie Clicker”. Mainly because of some typical midwits on Youtube making sex jokes about how a guy with quick fingers meant “their gf is so lucky”, I took it to heart. Hence, I thought showing off how fast I vibrated my fingers on my iPad would signal my potential sexual prowess and impress girls in my class. But in reality, I looked like a kid who had just suffered severe nerve damage. I would also go around challenging people to typing duels since I developed a bit of an ego from being able to type at 130+ wpm on 10fastfingers. Obviously, it’s pretty slow compared to many hardcore rotters on the internet. But when there’s a lot of thugmaxxed ethnic dropouts at your public school, it’s kinda easy to stand out in this aspect. Hence, it was the closest to being able to live out the “travelled the land in search of worthy foes” ahh fantasy. Depending on my mood on a particular day at school, I would imagine myself as Miyamoto Musashi on some days and Clint Eastwood on others.Perhaps I saw it as a way to create a fresh start for myself after having completely fucked up my statusmaxxing journey through chess back in elementary school. Nothing earth-shattering like that ever happened again in high school. Nonetheless, it was a slow-burning blackpill experience mainly because I had this 6’4 Middle Eastern low-trust MTN classmate. He must’ve been at least 220 pounds and was a complete frame mogger with zero training. While every other guy entered high school averaging 5’4, he was already a whole foot taller and looking like he was 38 with a 5 o'clock shadow and all. He was the quintessential early bloomer and basically stayed the same height for the rest of high school. I bet for girls, seeing a guy like him with massive shoulders and all was the equivalent of us seeing a JB with massive tits walk past in high school, no matter how fucked up her face is. Her tits would hypnotically jiggle after every step she took. The feeling wasn't much different from seeing a B-2 bomber fly over your school. You just can't help but stand there and watch in awe with a hand on your hip like "fuarrrrk look at those nuclear warheads". Meanwhile, I grew up to just over 5’11 (181-182cm) and MTN by the end of high school, lanky with long legs and short torso (peaked at 6’0 or 183cm at 19). I was the “king of manlets” by the end of high school, and that was quite suifuel. Even though I facially mogged the 6’4 guy by then, it was already too late. Being an early bloomer meant his presence was already imprinted into the minds of all the JBs in my class. Not to mention he still SMV mogged me with his sheer physicality. Basically just imagine xQc being up against an uglier version of HasanAbi.
Despite that guy being one of the worst students in my class, girls liked him a lot (no surprise). Even the “squishy squishy” exchange students often huddled around him during chemistry class (ironically). Looking back, I thought RIP to their future betabux husbands back in South Korea. Their country’s birth rate is already non-existent, good lord. Admittedly, I hated studying and often crammed to barely squeeze in a top mark for the sake of drowning in pussy. Even though I managed to be one of the highest performing students in my class, it wasn’t enough. At most, I got some quiet respect and acknowledgements from some classmates, friends and teachers, but that was it, to my disappointment. That Middle Eastern guy continued having harems, and god knows how many hymens he broke. I was like Tai Lung in Kung Fu Panda finally opening the dragon scroll. But instead of drowning in pussy left, right and center, “It’s nothing”, like Tai Lung said. And here I am on this site today.
NOTE: This is my 2nd (hopefully last lmao) megathread, so once again, no expectation for it to be read in one go, or at all. Only read it if you have nothing better to do. As for the rest, post your “DNRs” and project your insecurities down below so you can bump my thread mmkay bye.
The ethos of .orgFirst and foremost, I believe only results matter in life. The entire Looksmax philosophy is centered on achieving specific results around women, or alternatively achieving a peace of mind with or without them. Anything else is “incelligence” cope. “B-but muh Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs says sex is just a basic low-level need. Once you have enough of it, it doesn’t matter, and you move on to better things!!” For most people here especially, many things in life we do besides sex are to compensate for the pain of sexual/romantic deprivation (water). What fucking else are you on this site for? To feel powerful over incels? You want to be rich? Because you want your dick in pussy duh. “B-but Newton didn’t get pussy and he was fine!!”. Shut up you’re not Newton. You’re just coping by living vicariously through him. If everyone here was guaranteed to have a JB virgin’s thighs wrapped around their skull and got to inhale the fumes of their wet and smelly vagina for eternity, money would become the bottom of importance for most of them.
The way I see it, men exist as nature’s artists and women the canvas. The point in life as a man is to leave our impact on this world by painting our unique “masterpiece” on a canvas. Semen is our "paint". You could also see it as the composition of an original song. But since the majority of women nowadays aren’t virgins by the time you get to them, you’ll only be making a song cover/copy of the original. Even for artistic hobbies, it’s to cope with being unable to spread your “art” organically in nature. Now sure, some people are willing to create art in the void with no one to enjoy it, specifically to conquer their own demons. Van Gogh for example. But that’s incredibly rare, and I highly doubt anyone who is that self-effacing would still be browsing this site in the first place. On forums like these, even misfortunes and suffering start to become a social currency. People are that desperate to leave a legacy, no matter how unglamorous. If you suffered a lot and post about how much of a “loser” you are, some might even start becoming envious and accuse your story of being “larp”. If your life is too good and you brag about it, they’ll also call it a “larp”. Dog eat dog world innit?
When you think about it, a subhuman dalit that gets to take the virginity of a beautiful woman and explore all her caves and bowels unconditionally with all their five senses lifemogs pretty much the entirety of this site. All that sweating and suffering just for scraps. After all, results are all that matter in the end. But unfortunately, what tends to happen is that “God gives bread to those who have no teeth”. Many who manage to deflower a virgin complain about the sex being bad. But that’s not because virgins are “overrated”. It’s more of themselves being too insentient to feel real pleasure or pain. I’d rather they just keep the girl for themselves because I’d feel more at ease knowing that a girl is already crazy for another man. But nah, they’re just gonna leave sloppy seconds for some poor naive soul and keep them guessing. The “single” label that women use is meaningless to me.
TL;DR: Achieving romantic success or a peace of mind around women is all that matters under the ethos of Looksmax. Intellectual pursuits are used as some holier-than-thou excuse for the lack of it. In nature, men are the artists, women are the canvases, with the greatest fulfilment in leaving a unique mark, ideally with a virgin woman. Being able to leave a meaningful mark on the world is not attainable for most men. Hence, many end up here, where even personal suffering is seen as a social currency, potentially arousing envy.
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The way I see it, men exist as nature’s artists and women the canvas. The point in life as a man is to leave our impact on this world by painting our unique “masterpiece” on a canvas. Semen is our "paint". You could also see it as the composition of an original song. But since the majority of women nowadays aren’t virgins by the time you get to them, you’ll only be making a song cover/copy of the original. Even for artistic hobbies, it’s to cope with being unable to spread your “art” organically in nature. Now sure, some people are willing to create art in the void with no one to enjoy it, specifically to conquer their own demons. Van Gogh for example. But that’s incredibly rare, and I highly doubt anyone who is that self-effacing would still be browsing this site in the first place. On forums like these, even misfortunes and suffering start to become a social currency. People are that desperate to leave a legacy, no matter how unglamorous. If you suffered a lot and post about how much of a “loser” you are, some might even start becoming envious and accuse your story of being “larp”. If your life is too good and you brag about it, they’ll also call it a “larp”. Dog eat dog world innit?
When you think about it, a subhuman dalit that gets to take the virginity of a beautiful woman and explore all her caves and bowels unconditionally with all their five senses lifemogs pretty much the entirety of this site. All that sweating and suffering just for scraps. After all, results are all that matter in the end. But unfortunately, what tends to happen is that “God gives bread to those who have no teeth”. Many who manage to deflower a virgin complain about the sex being bad. But that’s not because virgins are “overrated”. It’s more of themselves being too insentient to feel real pleasure or pain. I’d rather they just keep the girl for themselves because I’d feel more at ease knowing that a girl is already crazy for another man. But nah, they’re just gonna leave sloppy seconds for some poor naive soul and keep them guessing. The “single” label that women use is meaningless to me.
TL;DR: Achieving romantic success or a peace of mind around women is all that matters under the ethos of Looksmax. Intellectual pursuits are used as some holier-than-thou excuse for the lack of it. In nature, men are the artists, women are the canvases, with the greatest fulfilment in leaving a unique mark, ideally with a virgin woman. Being able to leave a meaningful mark on the world is not attainable for most men. Hence, many end up here, where even personal suffering is seen as a social currency, potentially arousing envy.
The significance of the “Just Be First (JBF)” theory
Intro Before the advent of fame, glory, arts and culture, a man that lived in prehistoric times only had two circumstances where they could immortalise themselves. First is by being the one to take a woman's virginity and imprint themselves on their sexual psyche (not just psychologically but...
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Glamor in chess and sports
Would my life be any different today had I won that chess match back in elementary school? Honestly no. At most, I probably would’ve gotten the incentive to start playing in tournaments and get an official elo rating. Admittedly, my overactive childhood imagination also played a role in amplifying how everything was perceived, acting like it was the men’s singles final of Wimbledon 2008.
Chess story:
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But like most competitive activities, especially individual sports like tennis, they pretty much require you to have “all or nothing” in terms of talent and dedication for any meaningful change in your life. Basically top 100 in the world bare minimum in chess or tennis for a sustainable living (but the social payoffs are obviously higher for tennis), and there’s no guarantee you’ll even leave a meaningful legacy. If you’re lucky, you might get your own Wikipedia page at most. Otherwise, it’s just an easy temporary ego-boosting source from mowing down normies who don’t know any better. It’s something you could already do at 1500 elo, let alone at 2000+. Besides, unless you really love chess itself, it’s not recommended to grind to grandmaster level unless you were naturally talented to the point of checkmating adults before you learnt how to spell your own name. Hence, it would be no surprise for someone to claim to be Top 500 in Overwatch yet rot on this site.
Whatever sport you excel in also matters a shit ton for your legacy. The worst footballers (or benchwarmers) in the Premier League would probably still get more pussy than an Olympic gold medalist in pistol shooting for example (even the lowest earners there earn £200k a year). Despite a pistol shooter’s skill being much more objectively measurable (individual vs team sport), the stage they compete on just doesn’t have the same glamor as footballers. It’s too “boring” to watch for most people unless they get immortalized as a meme or some shit. I remember in high school playing football during mandatory sports class, a sport I don’t even play in my own time. I couldn’t even kick a ball straight, yet one time I managed to score a goal just by being at the right place at the right time. My teammates went wild, and in retrospect, they gave me more social validation than I did when I was one of the top students in my class or for typing fast. Even that one blonde chick on my team who thought I was weird suddenly said to me in a flirty tone, “Good job Sloppyseconds
” (inb4 tales from mumbai slums). It just proves that effort expended towards any intellectual activity is a pussy dryer if there is no glamor in it. In a way, you’re only as “sexy” as the discipline is.
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Similarly to debating, context matters more than raw finesse and logicality of your arguments. Just like the concept of “guilt by association” (where you’re an outcast to the mainstream if you post an incel website no matter how much of a “contributor” you are), there is “glory by association” just by affiliating yourself with a world class football club, even if you’re the worst player in it. It’s basically like pre-selection, where all things equal, women tend to be more attracted to a married man than a single man. Women would rather share a man than have a virtuous man all to herself. To acquire social capital, how you make people feel is more important than your raw competence, finesse or truth-seeking ability. Just like how sometimes chads (or athletes such as Tom Brady and Kaká) get cucked by some dark-triadmaxxed sub-5 ethnic because they managed to get their woman’s pussy wet at a precise moment in time. They’re mostly loyal to their own feelings. I got cucked similarly by a dark-triadmaxxed asian that wears glasses, presumably taking the virginity of my virgin oneitis. He was a rotter on Discord who was bronzie in League of Legends and had 1k hours on Bloons TD 6. Even though I mogged him, we both led unglamorous normie lives, and it boiled down to who happened to be more exciting to her at that very moment in time. In a way, I’m grateful I got cucked (inb4 “OP has a cuck fetish”) because it snapped me out of the delusional state of mind I had since that chess match I played when I was 10. Sometimes in life, you might not like what is happening to you, but in the long run, it is for the better.
TL;DR: Being able to leave a meaningful legacy in a competitive activity demands exceptional talent and dedication, which most of us here don’t have. Possessing such exceptional talent is not up to us to decide. Being top 0.1% percentile in most competitive activities is merely a “beginner” when it comes to being able to leave an everlasting legacy. In my experience, context and emotional impact often trump raw skill when it comes to social validation. You’re better off associating yourself with something of cultural significance than actually being competent.
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Chess story:
Crowds are dangerous if you care about the truth in the slightest
Intro The simplest way I can illustrate to you why crowds are problematic is to think of a woman you’re interested in. But the problem is, she’ll likely have friends who often give her unsolicited input on guys that she’s seeing. You don’t know what kind of values her friends have. They could...
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But like most competitive activities, especially individual sports like tennis, they pretty much require you to have “all or nothing” in terms of talent and dedication for any meaningful change in your life. Basically top 100 in the world bare minimum in chess or tennis for a sustainable living (but the social payoffs are obviously higher for tennis), and there’s no guarantee you’ll even leave a meaningful legacy. If you’re lucky, you might get your own Wikipedia page at most. Otherwise, it’s just an easy temporary ego-boosting source from mowing down normies who don’t know any better. It’s something you could already do at 1500 elo, let alone at 2000+. Besides, unless you really love chess itself, it’s not recommended to grind to grandmaster level unless you were naturally talented to the point of checkmating adults before you learnt how to spell your own name. Hence, it would be no surprise for someone to claim to be Top 500 in Overwatch yet rot on this site.
Whatever sport you excel in also matters a shit ton for your legacy. The worst footballers (or benchwarmers) in the Premier League would probably still get more pussy than an Olympic gold medalist in pistol shooting for example (even the lowest earners there earn £200k a year). Despite a pistol shooter’s skill being much more objectively measurable (individual vs team sport), the stage they compete on just doesn’t have the same glamor as footballers. It’s too “boring” to watch for most people unless they get immortalized as a meme or some shit. I remember in high school playing football during mandatory sports class, a sport I don’t even play in my own time. I couldn’t even kick a ball straight, yet one time I managed to score a goal just by being at the right place at the right time. My teammates went wild, and in retrospect, they gave me more social validation than I did when I was one of the top students in my class or for typing fast. Even that one blonde chick on my team who thought I was weird suddenly said to me in a flirty tone, “Good job Sloppyseconds
” (inb4 tales from mumbai slums). It just proves that effort expended towards any intellectual activity is a pussy dryer if there is no glamor in it. In a way, you’re only as “sexy” as the discipline is.
There’s no such thing as “winning” debates when one is truly blackpilled
Debating: An art of manipulating human weakness Maybe it's just me, but there's no such thing as "winning" debates when one is truly blackpilled. When all illusions are broken down and the harshest truths are embraced, we eventually realize that debating is more about smokes and mirrors...
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Similarly to debating, context matters more than raw finesse and logicality of your arguments. Just like the concept of “guilt by association” (where you’re an outcast to the mainstream if you post an incel website no matter how much of a “contributor” you are), there is “glory by association” just by affiliating yourself with a world class football club, even if you’re the worst player in it. It’s basically like pre-selection, where all things equal, women tend to be more attracted to a married man than a single man. Women would rather share a man than have a virtuous man all to herself. To acquire social capital, how you make people feel is more important than your raw competence, finesse or truth-seeking ability. Just like how sometimes chads (or athletes such as Tom Brady and Kaká) get cucked by some dark-triadmaxxed sub-5 ethnic because they managed to get their woman’s pussy wet at a precise moment in time. They’re mostly loyal to their own feelings. I got cucked similarly by a dark-triadmaxxed asian that wears glasses, presumably taking the virginity of my virgin oneitis. He was a rotter on Discord who was bronzie in League of Legends and had 1k hours on Bloons TD 6. Even though I mogged him, we both led unglamorous normie lives, and it boiled down to who happened to be more exciting to her at that very moment in time. In a way, I’m grateful I got cucked (inb4 “OP has a cuck fetish”) because it snapped me out of the delusional state of mind I had since that chess match I played when I was 10. Sometimes in life, you might not like what is happening to you, but in the long run, it is for the better.
TL;DR: Being able to leave a meaningful legacy in a competitive activity demands exceptional talent and dedication, which most of us here don’t have. Possessing such exceptional talent is not up to us to decide. Being top 0.1% percentile in most competitive activities is merely a “beginner” when it comes to being able to leave an everlasting legacy. In my experience, context and emotional impact often trump raw skill when it comes to social validation. You’re better off associating yourself with something of cultural significance than actually being competent.
It's more brutal getting cucked by someone you mog than if it was chad
“It’s not the hardest punch that always knocks you out, it's the one that you don't see coming” Users here love to joke about our oneitis getting creampied by chad like they're supposed to be our boogeyman. But hardly anyone jokes about our oneitis getting creampied by a 5’2 homeless drug...
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The “betterment of mankind” cope
To preface, I know that STEM is a domain that drives growth in our civilization and that there are still people who are genuinely passionate about what they do. Some do it out of pressure for financial security due to the nature of modern economic systems. But there seems to be a fallacious sentiment that STEM or mathematics in particular is the closest thing to god. Ultimately, we are the ones who assign value to these mathematicians and scientists and treat them as high priests, not because of some divine entity. In fact, their existence is more of a red herring to a lot of you common folks since you aren’t them. This leads to you wasting so much time comparing yourselves with them and treating them like Pokémon cards used to battle each other, “muh Newton smarter, muh Euler smarter”. Just because you study the same thing as they do doesn’t mean you belong in the same elite lineage. At the end of the day, no matter who “wins” or “loses”, ya’ll still bitchless.
Inb4 “OP is a low IQ ape controlled by his lustful fantasies. There are actually people who love what they are doing and do so for the betterment of mankind. He is just another dumb ugly rotting incel!!”. Yes I know this site we browse wouldn’t exist without scientists and engineers. Kudos to them. But you’re not them and are just living vicariously through them like a fucking cuck. Chances are, if you’re regularly on this site as a STEMcel, you probably don’t actually care about advancing society as much as drowning in pussy. So don’t go around virtue signalling and act like you care because it won’t fool anyone with half a brain. I know this kind of delusion can also apply to every other discipline. But this site is flooded by 14-year-old jeets with white women as their avi, expecting a harem once they pass their JEE exam (or should I say JEET exam). It’s probably why Islam dangles the “72 virgin women” waiting in the afterlife myth to motivate guys to accomplish such things. They spread STEM propaganda on this site, claiming that it’s an “underrated” way to ascend when in reality it distracts users from the true ethos of this site. It’s a site to find the way the most efficient way to slay/ascend, whether it’s physically or mentally, not a JEET exam inquiry site for fucks sake.
If there were a career that’s the extension of academics in high school, STEM careers would be the closest (basically high school DLC). A lot obsess over it to the point of wanting “revenge” over peers who ignored them in high school and use it as a crutch for “moral superiority”. It has basically become a religion at this point, given that people who pursue this career use it as an excuse to be a one-trick pony, or in Nietzsche’s terms, an “inverse cripple”. An ideal man would be reasonably adept at as many things as possible. But people who are balls deep in their STEM career always cope with “muh money muh IQ” to excuse themselves from being subpar at everything else. “B-but that’s cope because Von Neumann was good at everything. So was Dolph Lundgren!!”. Well, first of all, if you’re on this site in the first place bragging about your intelligence, you’re not Von Neumann material. You’re not Dolph Lundgren either, so once again it’s just your desire to live vicariously through them.
“Muh I deserve to breed with a smart woman!!”. They expect women to understand and put up with them solving their differential equations and mental masturbation while neglecting every bit of their basic needs. The obsession over STEM is a new-age phenomenon, specifically one that arose during the Industrial Revolution. Back in Ancient Greece, one needed to show a natural talent at many different things to be considered intelligent, which meant excelling in philosophy, rhetoric, mathematics, athletics and even politics. But nowadays, any remotely introverted kid can claim to be “open-minded” just because they got some As in some STEM subjects and watch anime in their spare time. Basically 80% of the people in my past social circles and I could hardly tell them apart. Also, I hear people here often debating so much about the existence of an afterlife and how they’d be so mad/sad if there wasn’t one. You fucking dumb cunt, if there wasn’t an afterlife, then you wouldn’t even be mad/sad in the first place because you’re not experiencing anything. You “winning” a religion debate here was as inconsequential as me winning a typing duel back in high school. Nerds still believe in manipulating reality with their mental masturbation and still don’t understand that the truth itself exists on its own. If you were actually competent at anything else, you wouldn’t feel the need to dream about some isekai weeaboo bullshit to cope with your boring ass existence. I'm willing to bet that guys here are more likely to have fringe knowledge of an anime character’s sexuality than to know how to replace a tire.
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STEM basically gave autists a lazy cop out opportunity to claim that they’re intelligent while neglecting everything else. In reality, they’re just as mentally deficient as the women they complain about. Just in a different way. They’re going to continue the cycle of suffering by giving birth to more one-trick pony autists who will eventually make an account here. To some degree, I was also a victim of this by focusing on academics and neglecting extracurriculars. “It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet.” - Miyamoto Musashi
People don’t realize that science has become so advanced that specialization is the only way to discover anything new. Not because scientists got “dumber” like many armchair intellectuals claim. Hence, there are no more polymaths who have expertise in 10+ subjects. People who get As in all their high school subjects don’t count. Just take a look at the recent Nobel Prize winners. All those breakthroughs sound pretty dull compared to what Einstein did. How exactly is one going to hype up “topological phase transitions”, for example? You probably don’t even know what that is unless you worked extensively in condensed matter physics. Little hype means little recognition. And when there’s not enough recognition, no one can be labelled “The next Einstein”. It’s a radical change in structural reality, not because of some moral decline. Making discoveries in science has become a team effort now, regardless of how “intelligent” you are, due to how much progress has been made in the past century. Baby steps are being made rather than quantum leaps like “muh Da Vinci, muh Newton, muh Einstein”. The average age of Nobel laureates is somewhere between 50 and 60. So if you were looking to earn a Nobel Prize to drown in pussy, are you sure your dick will still work properly by then?
TL;DR: Society elevates mathematics and scientists to a god-like status, creating a false narrative of divine significance. Many do not pursue STEM careers out of altruism but for financial security or social validation, treating it like a modern religion to validate their worth. As such, they delude themselves into thinking that they belong in the same lineage as the great mathematicians and scientists of the past. They use their name to fight their own battles as if they were Pokémon cards. It’s also used as an excuse to not be well-rounded, and that if they specialize only in one subject in STEM, they could use the “open-minded” card however they like. Contrary to popular belief, being a lone genius in the scientific realm in the 21st century is no longer plausible, as science has advanced immensely over the past century. Scientists now work in teams, and even in teams, they can only make baby steps to make an incredibly niche contribution that might land them a Nobel Prize after decades of work.
Inb4 “OP is a low IQ ape controlled by his lustful fantasies. There are actually people who love what they are doing and do so for the betterment of mankind. He is just another dumb ugly rotting incel!!”. Yes I know this site we browse wouldn’t exist without scientists and engineers. Kudos to them. But you’re not them and are just living vicariously through them like a fucking cuck. Chances are, if you’re regularly on this site as a STEMcel, you probably don’t actually care about advancing society as much as drowning in pussy. So don’t go around virtue signalling and act like you care because it won’t fool anyone with half a brain. I know this kind of delusion can also apply to every other discipline. But this site is flooded by 14-year-old jeets with white women as their avi, expecting a harem once they pass their JEE exam (or should I say JEET exam). It’s probably why Islam dangles the “72 virgin women” waiting in the afterlife myth to motivate guys to accomplish such things. They spread STEM propaganda on this site, claiming that it’s an “underrated” way to ascend when in reality it distracts users from the true ethos of this site. It’s a site to find the way the most efficient way to slay/ascend, whether it’s physically or mentally, not a JEET exam inquiry site for fucks sake.
If there were a career that’s the extension of academics in high school, STEM careers would be the closest (basically high school DLC). A lot obsess over it to the point of wanting “revenge” over peers who ignored them in high school and use it as a crutch for “moral superiority”. It has basically become a religion at this point, given that people who pursue this career use it as an excuse to be a one-trick pony, or in Nietzsche’s terms, an “inverse cripple”. An ideal man would be reasonably adept at as many things as possible. But people who are balls deep in their STEM career always cope with “muh money muh IQ” to excuse themselves from being subpar at everything else. “B-but that’s cope because Von Neumann was good at everything. So was Dolph Lundgren!!”. Well, first of all, if you’re on this site in the first place bragging about your intelligence, you’re not Von Neumann material. You’re not Dolph Lundgren either, so once again it’s just your desire to live vicariously through them.
“Muh I deserve to breed with a smart woman!!”. They expect women to understand and put up with them solving their differential equations and mental masturbation while neglecting every bit of their basic needs. The obsession over STEM is a new-age phenomenon, specifically one that arose during the Industrial Revolution. Back in Ancient Greece, one needed to show a natural talent at many different things to be considered intelligent, which meant excelling in philosophy, rhetoric, mathematics, athletics and even politics. But nowadays, any remotely introverted kid can claim to be “open-minded” just because they got some As in some STEM subjects and watch anime in their spare time. Basically 80% of the people in my past social circles and I could hardly tell them apart. Also, I hear people here often debating so much about the existence of an afterlife and how they’d be so mad/sad if there wasn’t one. You fucking dumb cunt, if there wasn’t an afterlife, then you wouldn’t even be mad/sad in the first place because you’re not experiencing anything. You “winning” a religion debate here was as inconsequential as me winning a typing duel back in high school. Nerds still believe in manipulating reality with their mental masturbation and still don’t understand that the truth itself exists on its own. If you were actually competent at anything else, you wouldn’t feel the need to dream about some isekai weeaboo bullshit to cope with your boring ass existence. I'm willing to bet that guys here are more likely to have fringe knowledge of an anime character’s sexuality than to know how to replace a tire.
Would you stop being “misogynistic” if women had the same rational capabilities as men?
Had a random convo with a woman and she started ranting about her workplace environment. What really got me thinking was when she said “guys opinions are taken more seriously compared to women ”. I didn’t say this out loud but immediately I thought “well yeah bitch look at how young women are...
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STEM basically gave autists a lazy cop out opportunity to claim that they’re intelligent while neglecting everything else. In reality, they’re just as mentally deficient as the women they complain about. Just in a different way. They’re going to continue the cycle of suffering by giving birth to more one-trick pony autists who will eventually make an account here. To some degree, I was also a victim of this by focusing on academics and neglecting extracurriculars. “It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet.” - Miyamoto Musashi
People don’t realize that science has become so advanced that specialization is the only way to discover anything new. Not because scientists got “dumber” like many armchair intellectuals claim. Hence, there are no more polymaths who have expertise in 10+ subjects. People who get As in all their high school subjects don’t count. Just take a look at the recent Nobel Prize winners. All those breakthroughs sound pretty dull compared to what Einstein did. How exactly is one going to hype up “topological phase transitions”, for example? You probably don’t even know what that is unless you worked extensively in condensed matter physics. Little hype means little recognition. And when there’s not enough recognition, no one can be labelled “The next Einstein”. It’s a radical change in structural reality, not because of some moral decline. Making discoveries in science has become a team effort now, regardless of how “intelligent” you are, due to how much progress has been made in the past century. Baby steps are being made rather than quantum leaps like “muh Da Vinci, muh Newton, muh Einstein”. The average age of Nobel laureates is somewhere between 50 and 60. So if you were looking to earn a Nobel Prize to drown in pussy, are you sure your dick will still work properly by then?
TL;DR: Society elevates mathematics and scientists to a god-like status, creating a false narrative of divine significance. Many do not pursue STEM careers out of altruism but for financial security or social validation, treating it like a modern religion to validate their worth. As such, they delude themselves into thinking that they belong in the same lineage as the great mathematicians and scientists of the past. They use their name to fight their own battles as if they were Pokémon cards. It’s also used as an excuse to not be well-rounded, and that if they specialize only in one subject in STEM, they could use the “open-minded” card however they like. Contrary to popular belief, being a lone genius in the scientific realm in the 21st century is no longer plausible, as science has advanced immensely over the past century. Scientists now work in teams, and even in teams, they can only make baby steps to make an incredibly niche contribution that might land them a Nobel Prize after decades of work.
Academia cuckoldry
Parents inadvertently cuck their sons by telling them to focus on academics because those are for “smart” people, and then to ignore everything else. They’re making a grave mistake by neglecting the pursuit of a virgin JB early on in favor of being “high-value”. Hence, leading to people congregating in sites like these. The power of “muh true love” with some sloppy seconds is some new-age cope for STEMcels to keep the cogs turning. The education system and academia are basically elite propaganda that gives STEMcels the illusion of glory when in reality, they become glorified worker bees for someone else who takes all the credit (e.g. Steve Jobs). Statues and stadiums are built and named in honor of them instead of you. “bUt ThEy EaRn LoTs Of MoNeY” is always used as some magical flex tape excuse to cover the opportunity cost of investing so much in such an endeavor. It’s like they view their interactions with women from an arranged marriage POV, where money determines the quality of the girl you get. Yet money can’t save them from their oneitis losing their virginity to another man for far less effort.
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“But I’m gonna have Elon Musk ‘fuck you’ money eventually and have 100+ kids with many different women!!! My legacy will be safe!!!”. No, you’re not. Just like how you can’t ascend to chad if you’re some 5’8 LTN, no matter how many surgeries you do without disfiguring yourself. Some still live under the delusion that they can reach miraculous levels of financial security without generational wealth. “So what? I can still fuck escorts non-stop!! Pussy is pussy and I’ll be drowning in it unlike you!! ”. You could already do that at low six figures if pussy is all you value. Besides, most of you won’t even have the stamina to keep that shit up.
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If you want to be rich, you could also become a doctor or a lawyer. “B-but doctors and lawyers only memorize stuff!! I’m too smart for that!! Besides, they won’t have much free time!!”. Well, I don’t know how working in an environment that is predominantly male-dominated is exactly that much better either. It’s also incredibly cucked to obsess so much over performative intelligence to impress some smelly neckbeards to the point of sacrificing pussy. At least doctors can hook up with nurses and have insane status halo in a hospital. They’re like a majestic stag amidst plain does. A doctor during his breaks probably takes nurses into the operating room to rearrange their guts.
TL;DR: Some parents make the mistake of pushing their sons towards academic success while neglecting early romantic success. In the vast majority of cases, STEMcels become replaceable worker bees for another person’s legacy; statues and stadiums are built in honor of that one person. Money cannot reverse time or undo romantic failures like a oneitis losing their virginity to another man, just like how money cannot reverse death. What’s left is that they cope by obsessing with performative intelligence on forums like this to impress incels.
A woman’s “love” should never be on your mind when earning money
I heard some redpill copers say “Looks matter in youth, money matters later in life” when attracting women. The fact that it has to switch from looks to money as the most important thing in attracting women for them just proves that looks are the bottom line of it all and that the agepill...
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Even helping someone in exchange for a reward is cucked sometimes
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Cuck Even to this day, this “trivial” incident lives rent-free in my mind. About two years ago there’s this one guy I often hung out with back in college and was running the jestermaxxed sad e-boy game. Dude was viet and looked like he listens to Keshi and mumbles...
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“But I’m gonna have Elon Musk ‘fuck you’ money eventually and have 100+ kids with many different women!!! My legacy will be safe!!!”. No, you’re not. Just like how you can’t ascend to chad if you’re some 5’8 LTN, no matter how many surgeries you do without disfiguring yourself. Some still live under the delusion that they can reach miraculous levels of financial security without generational wealth. “So what? I can still fuck escorts non-stop!! Pussy is pussy and I’ll be drowning in it unlike you!! ”. You could already do that at low six figures if pussy is all you value. Besides, most of you won’t even have the stamina to keep that shit up.
Growing up middle class/normal is probably the most blackpilling and cucked existence
Intro No joke, I sometimes wish I grew up in the ghettos because having a tough upbringing tends to cultivate a low-inhib and “nothing to lose” mindset, hence why some of them even end up life-mogging middle-class individuals. It explains why even though I was one of the top students in my...
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If you want to be rich, you could also become a doctor or a lawyer. “B-but doctors and lawyers only memorize stuff!! I’m too smart for that!! Besides, they won’t have much free time!!”. Well, I don’t know how working in an environment that is predominantly male-dominated is exactly that much better either. It’s also incredibly cucked to obsess so much over performative intelligence to impress some smelly neckbeards to the point of sacrificing pussy. At least doctors can hook up with nurses and have insane status halo in a hospital. They’re like a majestic stag amidst plain does. A doctor during his breaks probably takes nurses into the operating room to rearrange their guts.
TL;DR: Some parents make the mistake of pushing their sons towards academic success while neglecting early romantic success. In the vast majority of cases, STEMcels become replaceable worker bees for another person’s legacy; statues and stadiums are built in honor of that one person. Money cannot reverse time or undo romantic failures like a oneitis losing their virginity to another man, just like how money cannot reverse death. What’s left is that they cope by obsessing with performative intelligence on forums like this to impress incels.
AI and creativity
While there might be a lot of “high iq” users on this site, sentience is a distinguishing factor that separates them apart. A high-IQ, low-sentience person is like an unskilled pilot flying a 6th-gen fighter jet, yet lacking the intuitive, creative and pragmatic skills to fully harness its power. They have no real instinct for flying, and are unable to adapt to real-world conditions or think beyond the manual. There’s a saying that “garbage in, garbage out”. A low-sentient high IQ is also like a computer that lacks the intuitive filter to discern quality or relevance. It’s basically someone who tends to process brainrot and shit out brainrot quicker. The age of AI has democratized “intelligence” in the mechanical sense, meaning all that memorizing of niche terminology and mastery of rule-based systems would no longer be as impressive as it once was. A major reason why I shifted into writing more anecdotally is that the more formal and academically precise your writing is, the more they’ll accuse it of being AI. Hence, I never bothered writing a single guide here because most users here are retarded and absolute ingrates that would be like “muh ChatGPT”. I now find more spiritual catharsis in writing in a messier, primal manner. All that’s left is creativity. It’s no longer about outsmarting AI, it’s about outfeeling them.
There could be a 5-year-old Indian boy living in the slums of Mumbai who can multiply and divide 10-digit numbers in his head. But could he really leave a legacy without being highly sentient and creative? The point is that our physical and cognitive abilities decline with age (athletes and chess players are generally past their peak after 40, barring exceptional circumstances) and eventually become nothing. Hence, an individual having a creative spark is crucial in helping one immortalize themselves. Otherwise, there’s not much for their family and friends to remember them by if their life is cut short, as they’ll be just another flesh calculator. “After a certain level of technical skill is achieved, science and art tend to coalesce in aesthetics, plasticity and form. The greatest scientists are artists as well.” - Albert Einstein
An analogy I would make is in FPS video games, or specifically Valorant in this case. It was the first and only FPS game I played, but I wasn’t that good at it. There’s a warm-up exercise in Aimlabs called gridshot, and some players would yap endlessly about it being the “true measure of skill”. So I managed to get up to the 90k range, which isn’t that good as it falls short of the 100k benchmark that a lot of Valorant players aim for. However, I eventually found out there are mechanically gifted people, yet are hardstuck golds. There are players who score even lower than me in gridshot, yet are pros. That made me think, “What the actual fuck is going on? Have I been lied to?”.
I later learnt that a player’s ability can be dichotimized into mechanics and game sense. The way I would frame it is that mechanics in this case (reaction speed) would be analogous to someone like Von Neumann, while game sense (reading the map, seeing the big picture and ability to adapt) would be more fitting for people like Einstein or Ramanujan. Ideally, both your mechanics and game sense should be at a high level in the same way as your processing speed and intuition. But that’s extremely rare, as most people either compensate with a diminished intuition with god-tier processing speed or diminished processing speed with god-tier intuition. Some people gonna be like "B-but Einstein mastered calculus before 15, so he had processing speed too and you’re wrong!!". While mastering calculus before 15 is very impressive, it doesn’t require generational talent to do so. It had little to do with the way he came up with the theory of relativity on a whim before even deriving the fucking equation. Fucking midwits glaze intelligence so much yet have so little understanding of it.
Something I noticed with the average STEMcel is that they tend to have a really diminished intuition. As in they would rather die than not solve a problem step by step (flowchart mentality). They can’t dream up the answer on the spot, then “reverse engineer” it. That requires a lot of creativity and involves the synthesis of all kinds of knowledge you acquired in your life. But due to their severely diminished intuition (low-functioning autism), it’s not possible for them, no matter how hard they try. They don’t see that many things overlap in life. Sometimes you manage to find a solution to your problems by doing something completely unrelated. But nah, most people are gonna be like “nah that’s sooo schizoooo” the moment you take away their textbook. They probably couldn’t even visualize a magnetic pole’s direction in 3D space, and that’s just basic electromagnetism learnt in high school physics.
Terence Tao for all we know could be a shitlib. Hence, what exactly is of value could you extract out of him when you can’t even understand the maths he’s doing at his level? I noticed that a lot of midwits obsessed with STEM tend to have a fetish for things they don’t even understand. As much as someone like Terence Tao is exceptionally gifted in mathematics, my intuition tells me that if I sat down and had a chat with him to extract something out of him that would solve my life's predicaments, I might end up feeling quite disappointed. Call it a hunch. The vast majority of people are not superhuman savants. Therefore, the most important thing for most people is knowing how to make their own lives as stress-free as possible, instead of going against the grain. In the real world outside academia, this is the closest you’d get to Einstein’s way of thinking.
TL;DR: A person who is merely high IQ without having sentience is like an unskilled pilot flying a state-of-the-art fighter jet. While dangerous, they don’t have the intuition and creativity to utilize their capabilities to the fullest. “Garbage in, garbage out” means that such a person would just likely process brainrot and shit out brainrot quicker. The rise of AI has democratized mechanical intelligence, and now intuition and creativity are the only things humanity still has a slight edge in. All this time, creativity has been a deciding factor in being able to leave a lasting legacy, and AI was what it took to give humanity a wake-up call. Using Valorant as an analogy, in terms of mechanical skill (processing speed) and game sense (intuition), STEM enthusiasts tend to lack the latter, relying more on a rigid flow-chart mentality. They also have this weird fetish for mathematicians, expecting that they can fix their life dilemmas if they sit down with them in their office. But for all we know, they could be shitlibs and having exceptional mechanical intelligence doesn’t guarantee they’ll be saved from that.
There could be a 5-year-old Indian boy living in the slums of Mumbai who can multiply and divide 10-digit numbers in his head. But could he really leave a legacy without being highly sentient and creative? The point is that our physical and cognitive abilities decline with age (athletes and chess players are generally past their peak after 40, barring exceptional circumstances) and eventually become nothing. Hence, an individual having a creative spark is crucial in helping one immortalize themselves. Otherwise, there’s not much for their family and friends to remember them by if their life is cut short, as they’ll be just another flesh calculator. “After a certain level of technical skill is achieved, science and art tend to coalesce in aesthetics, plasticity and form. The greatest scientists are artists as well.” - Albert Einstein
An analogy I would make is in FPS video games, or specifically Valorant in this case. It was the first and only FPS game I played, but I wasn’t that good at it. There’s a warm-up exercise in Aimlabs called gridshot, and some players would yap endlessly about it being the “true measure of skill”. So I managed to get up to the 90k range, which isn’t that good as it falls short of the 100k benchmark that a lot of Valorant players aim for. However, I eventually found out there are mechanically gifted people, yet are hardstuck golds. There are players who score even lower than me in gridshot, yet are pros. That made me think, “What the actual fuck is going on? Have I been lied to?”.
I later learnt that a player’s ability can be dichotimized into mechanics and game sense. The way I would frame it is that mechanics in this case (reaction speed) would be analogous to someone like Von Neumann, while game sense (reading the map, seeing the big picture and ability to adapt) would be more fitting for people like Einstein or Ramanujan. Ideally, both your mechanics and game sense should be at a high level in the same way as your processing speed and intuition. But that’s extremely rare, as most people either compensate with a diminished intuition with god-tier processing speed or diminished processing speed with god-tier intuition. Some people gonna be like "B-but Einstein mastered calculus before 15, so he had processing speed too and you’re wrong!!". While mastering calculus before 15 is very impressive, it doesn’t require generational talent to do so. It had little to do with the way he came up with the theory of relativity on a whim before even deriving the fucking equation. Fucking midwits glaze intelligence so much yet have so little understanding of it.
Something I noticed with the average STEMcel is that they tend to have a really diminished intuition. As in they would rather die than not solve a problem step by step (flowchart mentality). They can’t dream up the answer on the spot, then “reverse engineer” it. That requires a lot of creativity and involves the synthesis of all kinds of knowledge you acquired in your life. But due to their severely diminished intuition (low-functioning autism), it’s not possible for them, no matter how hard they try. They don’t see that many things overlap in life. Sometimes you manage to find a solution to your problems by doing something completely unrelated. But nah, most people are gonna be like “nah that’s sooo schizoooo” the moment you take away their textbook. They probably couldn’t even visualize a magnetic pole’s direction in 3D space, and that’s just basic electromagnetism learnt in high school physics.
Terence Tao for all we know could be a shitlib. Hence, what exactly is of value could you extract out of him when you can’t even understand the maths he’s doing at his level? I noticed that a lot of midwits obsessed with STEM tend to have a fetish for things they don’t even understand. As much as someone like Terence Tao is exceptionally gifted in mathematics, my intuition tells me that if I sat down and had a chat with him to extract something out of him that would solve my life's predicaments, I might end up feeling quite disappointed. Call it a hunch. The vast majority of people are not superhuman savants. Therefore, the most important thing for most people is knowing how to make their own lives as stress-free as possible, instead of going against the grain. In the real world outside academia, this is the closest you’d get to Einstein’s way of thinking.
TL;DR: A person who is merely high IQ without having sentience is like an unskilled pilot flying a state-of-the-art fighter jet. While dangerous, they don’t have the intuition and creativity to utilize their capabilities to the fullest. “Garbage in, garbage out” means that such a person would just likely process brainrot and shit out brainrot quicker. The rise of AI has democratized mechanical intelligence, and now intuition and creativity are the only things humanity still has a slight edge in. All this time, creativity has been a deciding factor in being able to leave a lasting legacy, and AI was what it took to give humanity a wake-up call. Using Valorant as an analogy, in terms of mechanical skill (processing speed) and game sense (intuition), STEM enthusiasts tend to lack the latter, relying more on a rigid flow-chart mentality. They also have this weird fetish for mathematicians, expecting that they can fix their life dilemmas if they sit down with them in their office. But for all we know, they could be shitlibs and having exceptional mechanical intelligence doesn’t guarantee they’ll be saved from that.
The truth about recognition and legacy in artsGreatness doesn’t guarantee fame. It never has. People have the misconception that greatness exists in a vacuum. That if one created art “great” enough, people will naturally gravitate towards it and break down your doors to worship you. Normies have the misconception that the great artists of past centuries have an innate aura that disrupts the flow of space and time.
Regardless of whether you like classical music or not, I’m sure even normies have heard of the music of the 18th-century violin composer Antonio Vivaldi (basically 18th-century Ed Sheeran). He is perhaps the famous violin composer in the mainstream today. “OmG you’re such a faggot who even listens to classical music anyway?”. That’s not the point. The point is, there’s a reason the “starving artist” trope exists. Composers back in the 18th century especially relied heavily on patronage from the upper class, churches and even royalty for their livelihood. This was the case for Antonio Vivaldi, who died in poverty after a change in patronage following the death of the emperor at the time in Vienna. His music fell into obscurity soon after, and it took nearly 200 years for his work to be revived. This is ironic since his work “Four Seasons” is the most viewed classical music video on Youtube today. It showed that even the legacy of a composer his stature was mostly at the mercy of the whims of audiences, patrons and cultural priorities.
“B-but that’s water, everyone knows that!!”. I highly doubt it after browsing this site for quite some time. There’s always a random DNRcel who tries to beef with me on a thread that I posted many months ago. Instead of hurting me, they’re giving my older threads a renaissance and more reps. If they wanted my threads to die, they could’ve left them alone. But nah, typical midwit behavior like most people. You can also look at the FUOTY contests here, or should I say “Incel Oscars”. None of them would’ve been nominated had they not ridden the dicks of some key figures on this site and just quietly posted threads without actively seeking acknowledgement. Technology may evolve, but human nature remains in an ouroboros loop. “That’s not true, you’re just salty!! Meritocracy still exists you're just a greycel shitter!!”. Fine, you try it then. Make a new account (not recommended), do it my way by posting only threads and never engaging with anyone inside and outside your threads. Most likely, you’ll soon be crying about how nobody loves you. "Muh I feel nothing. Muh I feel so numb".
A pretty wild and dumb analogy I’ll make, not gonna lie, but I think being a poster of guides/high-effort threads here is kinda like being a chef. “Wtf that’s so schizo, how is that even comparable?!!!”. But hold on, I’m going to bring up a name you might’ve heard of, and that is Marco Pierre White. That is the chef you might’ve heard of as the man who made Gordon Ramsay cry during the time he worked as an apprentice chef under him. Marco was the first chef to earn 3 Michelin stars after working 17 years for it. But he did not feel fulfilled in his personal life, and as a result, in 1999, he retired and returned his Michelin stars. Why is that? What about all the drowning in pussy? “I was being judged by people who had less knowledge than me, so what was it truly worth? I gave Michelin inspectors too much respect, and I belittled myself”. The irony is that the Michelin stars are awarded by a tire company, hence being given too much respect.
“B-but you’re not a Michelin-starred chef. That is such a laughable argument”. I’m acutely aware that this site has the same glamour as an indian basket-weaving forum, in which the only people you’ll impress are fellow basket weavers. Meanwhile, in the culinary arts, chefs like Marco Pierre White and Gordon Ramsay drowned in pussy. Generally speaking, you’re also carrying a greater moral burden when you post high-effort threads as opposed to being a shitposter. Every “mistake” will be scrutinzed, while being a shitposter means your entire brand is about making “mistakes”. The point is there’s a degree of "cuckoldry" when you reach a certain level of experience, competence and perspective on something. Your societal value is then dictated heavily by people who are far less competent and knowledgeable than you are. In this case, it’s 14-year-old jeets stressed about their JEE exam trying to determine your worth on this site by projecting their own STEM cuck ideals onto you. In a similar logic to Marco Pierre White’s sentiment, when you’re judged by people of such calibre, what’s clout worth on such a site?
TL;DR: There’s a misconception that artistic greatness guarantees fame, not recognizing that it also depends on external factors such as patronage, audience whims and cultural sensitivities. High-effort posters on this site are like chefs (especially those who write formal guides), as they create for and are judged by people who are often less knowledgeable and experienced than they are. When you’re often being judged by 14-year-old jeets here, what is clout really worth in such a place?
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Regardless of whether you like classical music or not, I’m sure even normies have heard of the music of the 18th-century violin composer Antonio Vivaldi (basically 18th-century Ed Sheeran). He is perhaps the famous violin composer in the mainstream today. “OmG you’re such a faggot who even listens to classical music anyway?”. That’s not the point. The point is, there’s a reason the “starving artist” trope exists. Composers back in the 18th century especially relied heavily on patronage from the upper class, churches and even royalty for their livelihood. This was the case for Antonio Vivaldi, who died in poverty after a change in patronage following the death of the emperor at the time in Vienna. His music fell into obscurity soon after, and it took nearly 200 years for his work to be revived. This is ironic since his work “Four Seasons” is the most viewed classical music video on Youtube today. It showed that even the legacy of a composer his stature was mostly at the mercy of the whims of audiences, patrons and cultural priorities.
“B-but that’s water, everyone knows that!!”. I highly doubt it after browsing this site for quite some time. There’s always a random DNRcel who tries to beef with me on a thread that I posted many months ago. Instead of hurting me, they’re giving my older threads a renaissance and more reps. If they wanted my threads to die, they could’ve left them alone. But nah, typical midwit behavior like most people. You can also look at the FUOTY contests here, or should I say “Incel Oscars”. None of them would’ve been nominated had they not ridden the dicks of some key figures on this site and just quietly posted threads without actively seeking acknowledgement. Technology may evolve, but human nature remains in an ouroboros loop. “That’s not true, you’re just salty!! Meritocracy still exists you're just a greycel shitter!!”. Fine, you try it then. Make a new account (not recommended), do it my way by posting only threads and never engaging with anyone inside and outside your threads. Most likely, you’ll soon be crying about how nobody loves you. "Muh I feel nothing. Muh I feel so numb".
A pretty wild and dumb analogy I’ll make, not gonna lie, but I think being a poster of guides/high-effort threads here is kinda like being a chef. “Wtf that’s so schizo, how is that even comparable?!!!”. But hold on, I’m going to bring up a name you might’ve heard of, and that is Marco Pierre White. That is the chef you might’ve heard of as the man who made Gordon Ramsay cry during the time he worked as an apprentice chef under him. Marco was the first chef to earn 3 Michelin stars after working 17 years for it. But he did not feel fulfilled in his personal life, and as a result, in 1999, he retired and returned his Michelin stars. Why is that? What about all the drowning in pussy? “I was being judged by people who had less knowledge than me, so what was it truly worth? I gave Michelin inspectors too much respect, and I belittled myself”. The irony is that the Michelin stars are awarded by a tire company, hence being given too much respect.
“B-but you’re not a Michelin-starred chef. That is such a laughable argument”. I’m acutely aware that this site has the same glamour as an indian basket-weaving forum, in which the only people you’ll impress are fellow basket weavers. Meanwhile, in the culinary arts, chefs like Marco Pierre White and Gordon Ramsay drowned in pussy. Generally speaking, you’re also carrying a greater moral burden when you post high-effort threads as opposed to being a shitposter. Every “mistake” will be scrutinzed, while being a shitposter means your entire brand is about making “mistakes”. The point is there’s a degree of "cuckoldry" when you reach a certain level of experience, competence and perspective on something. Your societal value is then dictated heavily by people who are far less competent and knowledgeable than you are. In this case, it’s 14-year-old jeets stressed about their JEE exam trying to determine your worth on this site by projecting their own STEM cuck ideals onto you. In a similar logic to Marco Pierre White’s sentiment, when you’re judged by people of such calibre, what’s clout worth on such a site?
TL;DR: There’s a misconception that artistic greatness guarantees fame, not recognizing that it also depends on external factors such as patronage, audience whims and cultural sensitivities. High-effort posters on this site are like chefs (especially those who write formal guides), as they create for and are judged by people who are often less knowledgeable and experienced than they are. When you’re often being judged by 14-year-old jeets here, what is clout really worth in such a place?
The problem with using this site as the foundation for your fame/legacy (JFL)
"The birth of Incelius Maximus" (69th post) This should be a water thread, but any potential replies will show you that it isn’t. It's contradictory when users will say: "w-why put in so much effort into threads it's just an incel site bro". Yet at the same time they care about being liked and...
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The point of posting on this site
The biggest appeal of this site is that it’s one of the few places on the internet where you can express yourself without self-censoring. It’s like screaming into a tree hollow for some spiritual catharsis. However, actively trying to be popular on this site is just asking for notoriety outside it. My choice to post threads here is probably the closest I’ll get to doing things for their own sake, because I know for sure I can’t build anything meaningful here. I do so as a form of monthly mental reset after all the stress that has accumulated. And I realized that a lot of the stress stemmed from past mistakes I had made that had gone unaddressed. Hence, I rarely discuss my current private life. I’m acutely aware of the fact that my threads would make pussy drier than the Sahara Desert. Thus, I’d rather have someone else on this site take credit for the threads I’ve written here than have my IRL self linked to them. Just like the telephone game, the further the message is passed, the more likely the original meaning will be diluted. Some information is only meant for a select few to read and digest. Not to mention, most people haven’t even experienced the blackpill first firsthand. Many here are just normies that memorized some blackpill concepts to sound deep. Hence, reading my threads alone won’t mean they’ll actually understand what I’m trying to say. They haven’t experienced anything similar to what I’ve experienced. With that in mind, it’ll probably take years for the ideas to even settle in for them. Some think being a hermit who likes watching anime means being “blackpilled” and “unique”. But they’re just another normie with the same NPC delusions. Just with different aesthetics.
Some say my threads are merely “performative ramblings to impress teenagers”. Yet when I look at their post history, it’s mostly shitposting, arguing over IQ, mutual dickriding, being involved in some petty .org politics, rating someone down to the last PSL decimal, etc. So is that what an authentic, open-minded grown-up is supposed to be nowadays? Is that what the next generation should aspire to be like? Interesting. Some run out of insults and start using weaponizing virtue by labelling me a “narcy”. Some say my threads are “too long” instead of engaging with the core ideas, proving that people indeed tend to nitpick over how something makes them feel rather than the ideas themselves. The truth writes itself. Some project their desire for fame here by accusing me of being a “rep farmer”. But all I really do nowadays is post a thread once a month, and people will organically click on my threads over time. But nah, they’d rather paint me as some rep farming mastermind even though I’m not even playing the game. I’d rather accomplish everything I sought out to in life and wear a dunce hat saying “my iq is 70” than to be 170 IQ and rotting on this forum for life. So if you’re that desperate to become some “genius incel warlord" to fight back at “da jooz”, be my guest. I won’t compete for it. I don’t believe in changing a person’s mind, nor should I lose sleep over not being able to, because I believe in predeterminism. They either have it in them or not in the first place for my ideas to resonate with them. Even if they disagree with me at first and agree with me later on, they had it in them the whole time. I'm not gonna take credit for that. But in most cases, you could say something completely water like “we all die one day”, or that the sun rises every day, and some people will still say “There’s some truth to that. But I disagree. *refuses to elaborate*”. They’d rather die on the peak of “Mt Stupid” than drop down to the “valley of despair”.
Users either claim my threads are “schizo” (makes no sense) or that it’s “water” (too obvious). Pick one. Users here either have no intuition or are larping being 10 steps ahead of me (probably trolling and I fell for it). Since those claims contradict each other, they ultimately lead to a middle ground. If my threads are “schizo”, they wouldn’t be labelled as “water”. And if my threads are “water”, calling them “schizo” makes zero sense. If I have not seen similar ideas being discussed here in the past 5 years, I’m going to assume it’s not “water”. Also, there’s no such thing as being a “fanboy” of the blackpill, because it would imply that the concepts of life and death are merely figments of our imagination. But truth exists on its own, and life and death are the biggest of them all. No one is above coping. Even when you’ve detached yourself from money and fame, you still base your behavior and actions around the existence of death. Even inaction is a form of coping mechanism against it. Death has us all on a leash.
I’m agnostic and while the idea of an afterlife sounds nice, I’m not counting on it. Many assume that because something hasn’t happened to them yet, it must be false. None of them could ever imagine themselves driving and following all the rules, and still get killed by a speeding drunk driver. Just like how they can’t imagine that one day the sun won’t rise for them again. There’s no guarantee that death will only come after you decades later. There’s no “fair” or “unfair” when that does happen. All one can do is learn to find peace of mind in the face of it in whatever way they can. Hurting insults at me won’t change any of that. I’m just a messenger of the naturally occurring patterns that are observable in reality.
TL;DR: Contrary to what others think, each thread I post here is a form of mental reset. Posting for widespread recognition would be a futile use of my energy. The greatest selling point of this site is its uncensored nature, allowing me to scream into the void for a spiritual catharsis without consequences (as of yet). There’s a tendency for my detractors to project their own desire for recognition onto me, who often nitpick without actually engaging with my core ideas. But since I believe in predeterminism, I also don’t believe there’s such a thing as changing one’s mind either. I believe there are already people predisposed to understand my ideas, and I should focus more of my energies towards them. The truth itself exists on its own. No amount of debating would bring into existence an afterlife if there isn’t one in the first place. Assuming the worst, one should learn to find peace in the fact that this may be our only life and live like it is.
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Some say my threads are merely “performative ramblings to impress teenagers”. Yet when I look at their post history, it’s mostly shitposting, arguing over IQ, mutual dickriding, being involved in some petty .org politics, rating someone down to the last PSL decimal, etc. So is that what an authentic, open-minded grown-up is supposed to be nowadays? Is that what the next generation should aspire to be like? Interesting. Some run out of insults and start using weaponizing virtue by labelling me a “narcy”. Some say my threads are “too long” instead of engaging with the core ideas, proving that people indeed tend to nitpick over how something makes them feel rather than the ideas themselves. The truth writes itself. Some project their desire for fame here by accusing me of being a “rep farmer”. But all I really do nowadays is post a thread once a month, and people will organically click on my threads over time. But nah, they’d rather paint me as some rep farming mastermind even though I’m not even playing the game. I’d rather accomplish everything I sought out to in life and wear a dunce hat saying “my iq is 70” than to be 170 IQ and rotting on this forum for life. So if you’re that desperate to become some “genius incel warlord" to fight back at “da jooz”, be my guest. I won’t compete for it. I don’t believe in changing a person’s mind, nor should I lose sleep over not being able to, because I believe in predeterminism. They either have it in them or not in the first place for my ideas to resonate with them. Even if they disagree with me at first and agree with me later on, they had it in them the whole time. I'm not gonna take credit for that. But in most cases, you could say something completely water like “we all die one day”, or that the sun rises every day, and some people will still say “There’s some truth to that. But I disagree. *refuses to elaborate*”. They’d rather die on the peak of “Mt Stupid” than drop down to the “valley of despair”.
Users either claim my threads are “schizo” (makes no sense) or that it’s “water” (too obvious). Pick one. Users here either have no intuition or are larping being 10 steps ahead of me (probably trolling and I fell for it). Since those claims contradict each other, they ultimately lead to a middle ground. If my threads are “schizo”, they wouldn’t be labelled as “water”. And if my threads are “water”, calling them “schizo” makes zero sense. If I have not seen similar ideas being discussed here in the past 5 years, I’m going to assume it’s not “water”. Also, there’s no such thing as being a “fanboy” of the blackpill, because it would imply that the concepts of life and death are merely figments of our imagination. But truth exists on its own, and life and death are the biggest of them all. No one is above coping. Even when you’ve detached yourself from money and fame, you still base your behavior and actions around the existence of death. Even inaction is a form of coping mechanism against it. Death has us all on a leash.
I’m agnostic and while the idea of an afterlife sounds nice, I’m not counting on it. Many assume that because something hasn’t happened to them yet, it must be false. None of them could ever imagine themselves driving and following all the rules, and still get killed by a speeding drunk driver. Just like how they can’t imagine that one day the sun won’t rise for them again. There’s no guarantee that death will only come after you decades later. There’s no “fair” or “unfair” when that does happen. All one can do is learn to find peace of mind in the face of it in whatever way they can. Hurting insults at me won’t change any of that. I’m just a messenger of the naturally occurring patterns that are observable in reality.
TL;DR: Contrary to what others think, each thread I post here is a form of mental reset. Posting for widespread recognition would be a futile use of my energy. The greatest selling point of this site is its uncensored nature, allowing me to scream into the void for a spiritual catharsis without consequences (as of yet). There’s a tendency for my detractors to project their own desire for recognition onto me, who often nitpick without actually engaging with my core ideas. But since I believe in predeterminism, I also don’t believe there’s such a thing as changing one’s mind either. I believe there are already people predisposed to understand my ideas, and I should focus more of my energies towards them. The truth itself exists on its own. No amount of debating would bring into existence an afterlife if there isn’t one in the first place. Assuming the worst, one should learn to find peace in the fact that this may be our only life and live like it is.
If you feel weighed down by this site, it might be a sign you subconsciously romanticize it
When I mean “romanticize”, I don’t mean to personify the site as a woman and imagine you fucking it. Although you can think of it that way if it’s easier for you to understand. Rather it’s about attributing more meaning to the site than it “deserves”. Holding onto an idealized, distorted version...
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Ending remarks
What’s effort worth when there are no fruits to be enjoyed, no wine of success to be drunk? Personally, if virgin pussy is not at stake, I wouldn't want to put in effort. That’s probably one of, if not the only thing that still makes me want to put in effort for in life. I’m at a weird age where it’s starting to be considered creepy to date a girl that just freshly turned 18 from an agecuck POV. Yet I’m still too young to run for House of Representatives. Realistically, it’ll take a miracle for someone my age to find a virgin woman. All I can do is guide others to a treasure I cannot possess. It’s kinda like an animal dying and their remains becoming nutrients to enrich the soil and support the growth of grass for other animals to eat. The “circle of life” ahh moment JFL.
So what is the point of life if there’s no virgin pussy for salvation? I suppose by continuously gaining a deeper understanding of the world. To have as much figured out as a way of defending oneself from threats in the environment. In addition, being as competent as possible to the point of not having to rely on anyone, independent of money or social power. Maybe learning practical survival skills like chopping wood, hunting, and building shelter isn’t exactly a complete waste of time. It might actually help one reclaim some agency and purpose through directly engaging with the natural world. After all, we all have to confront death alone eventually, and it would make sense to get used to solitude in life. That’s why I avoid over-specialization because that will only lead to turning me into an inverse cripple. When one is hyper-specialized in one area and neglects everything else, it’s only normal to feel powerless in the face of the void called existence. Self-love might be too idealistic for some. Hence, self-respect would make more sense, and much of that involves prioritizing your peace of mind. Maybe that’s the true purpose behind wanting a virgin woman, even if we never find one.
This sounds like I’m advocating for people to give up on their hobbies because it very rarely helps with drowning in pussy. But one should ask oneself whether such a hobby is inherently therapeutic or not (or at least has transferable skills for pragmatic purposes). In other words, would you still put in effort into making progress in your hobbies if everyone else in the world suddenly vanished? It’s about cultivating oneself in a way that can withstand solitude and the inherent meaninglessness of life.
So what is the point of life if there’s no virgin pussy for salvation? I suppose by continuously gaining a deeper understanding of the world. To have as much figured out as a way of defending oneself from threats in the environment. In addition, being as competent as possible to the point of not having to rely on anyone, independent of money or social power. Maybe learning practical survival skills like chopping wood, hunting, and building shelter isn’t exactly a complete waste of time. It might actually help one reclaim some agency and purpose through directly engaging with the natural world. After all, we all have to confront death alone eventually, and it would make sense to get used to solitude in life. That’s why I avoid over-specialization because that will only lead to turning me into an inverse cripple. When one is hyper-specialized in one area and neglects everything else, it’s only normal to feel powerless in the face of the void called existence. Self-love might be too idealistic for some. Hence, self-respect would make more sense, and much of that involves prioritizing your peace of mind. Maybe that’s the true purpose behind wanting a virgin woman, even if we never find one.
This sounds like I’m advocating for people to give up on their hobbies because it very rarely helps with drowning in pussy. But one should ask oneself whether such a hobby is inherently therapeutic or not (or at least has transferable skills for pragmatic purposes). In other words, would you still put in effort into making progress in your hobbies if everyone else in the world suddenly vanished? It’s about cultivating oneself in a way that can withstand solitude and the inherent meaninglessness of life.
TL;DR:
- The ethos of Looksmax is about finding romantic success or a peace of mind with or without women. Intellectual pursuits and hobbies are often cope for a lack of it (water). Men are nature’s artists who seek to leave a unique mark on women (ideally virgin), but most are unsuccessful. Suffering becomes a social currency on sites like these
- Competitive fields like chess or tennis require exceptional talent for a meaningful legacy. Being top 0.1% at something is only a “beginner” when it comes to leaving a worldwide impact. Besides that, context and emotional impact often trump raw skill.
- STEM is pedestalized and seen as a pursuit being “closest to God”. Yet many pursue validation, not altruism, deluding themselves into thinking they belong in the same lineage as the past greats. This leads to a tendency to overspecialize, and even then, modern science’s incremental nature diminishes lone genius breakthroughs.
- Some parents make the mistake of pushing their sons into academia, neglecting early romantic success. This often produces replaceable STEMcels that chase performative intelligence to cope with romantic failures.
- An analogy I would make is that a high IQ and low-sentience person is like an unskilled pilot flying a state-of-the-art jet fighter. Sure they’re still dangerous, but they lack the intuition and creativity to utilize their capabilities to the fullest. The rise of AI highlights the importance of creativity and intuition, something that people with a flowchart mentality lack.
- Artistic greatness is never guaranteed fame, and relies a lot on external factors such as patronage and audience whims. Posting high-effort threads/guides here is like being a chef. You are judged by people who are generally less knowledgeable than you. Remember that a large proportion of the userbase are probably 14-year-old jeets. Hence, what is clout worth on such a site?
- Ideally, posting on this site should be a place for mental reset, a place for spiritual catharsis without serious consequences. Predetermism means the people who agree with your ideas already exist, and that there’s no such thing as changing people’s minds. The truth exists on its own, and we should learn to find peace in life’s impermanence.
- Competitive fields like chess or tennis require exceptional talent for a meaningful legacy. Being top 0.1% at something is only a “beginner” when it comes to leaving a worldwide impact. Besides that, context and emotional impact often trump raw skill.
- STEM is pedestalized and seen as a pursuit being “closest to God”. Yet many pursue validation, not altruism, deluding themselves into thinking they belong in the same lineage as the past greats. This leads to a tendency to overspecialize, and even then, modern science’s incremental nature diminishes lone genius breakthroughs.
- Some parents make the mistake of pushing their sons into academia, neglecting early romantic success. This often produces replaceable STEMcels that chase performative intelligence to cope with romantic failures.
- An analogy I would make is that a high IQ and low-sentience person is like an unskilled pilot flying a state-of-the-art jet fighter. Sure they’re still dangerous, but they lack the intuition and creativity to utilize their capabilities to the fullest. The rise of AI highlights the importance of creativity and intuition, something that people with a flowchart mentality lack.
- Artistic greatness is never guaranteed fame, and relies a lot on external factors such as patronage and audience whims. Posting high-effort threads/guides here is like being a chef. You are judged by people who are generally less knowledgeable than you. Remember that a large proportion of the userbase are probably 14-year-old jeets. Hence, what is clout worth on such a site?
- Ideally, posting on this site should be a place for mental reset, a place for spiritual catharsis without serious consequences. Predetermism means the people who agree with your ideas already exist, and that there’s no such thing as changing people’s minds. The truth exists on its own, and we should learn to find peace in life’s impermanence.
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