MK-677, Enclomiphene & AC-262?

[14yearoldpslmogger]

Saw a video from "Tony Huge" claiming that a mk 677, enclo, ac 262 is the ultimate natty cycle, i dont know much about this stuff so i would love to hear the opinion of .org experts

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[xex]

Saw a video from "Tony Huge" claiming that a mk 677, enclo, ac 262 is the ultimate natty cycle, i dont know much about this stuff so i would love to hear the opinion of .org experts

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[Vrowding]

yea idk but your profile aesthetic is nice

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

Saw a video from "Tony Huge" claiming that a mk 677, enclo, ac 262 is the ultimate natty cycle, i dont know much about this stuff so i would love to hear the opinion of .org experts

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idk about ac 262

But es, mk and enclo is the best natty stack or half natty. what ever you call it because it will not suppress any natural hormones, almost zero side effects other than hunger and high sugar levels (only to be concerned with diabetic history)

 

[rsj]

Saw a video from "Tony Huge" claiming that a mk 677, enclo, ac 262 is the ultimate natty cycle, i dont know much about this stuff so i would love to hear the opinion of .org experts

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if its a SARM, its not natty. although peptides have more room for argument (like MK). i dont know much about that specific stack but you can find safer and better stacks on some peptides sites

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

if its a SARM, its not natty. although peptides have more room for argument (like MK). i dont know much about that specific stack but you can find safer and better stacks on some peptides sites

idc about "natty" tbh care about not destroying my natural test

 

[Vrowding]

although peptides have more room for argument (like MK)

 

[rsj]

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[Vrowding]

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MK is not a peptide

 

[rsj]

idc about "natty" tbh care about not destroying my natural test

MK is not a peptide

MK is not a peptide

your right. typo from my end. mk is a micromolecule

 

[Vrowding]

your right. typo from my end. mk is a micromolecule

i think most people would refer to it as an orally active GH secretagogue but you are not wrong, though things like testosterone, winstrol, and dbol can be referred to as a micromolecule iirc

 

[rsj]

idc about "natty" tbh care about not destroying my natural test

yeah i would say
MK-677, GW501516, and LGD4033 is a good stack that doesnt destroy natural test. i'd say its balanced. although the other two compounds sadly don't have as much data. do your research and see if it fits you.

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

yeah i would say
MK-677, GW501516, and LGD4033 is a good stack that doesnt destroy natural test. i'd say its balanced. although the other two compounds sadly don't have as much data. do your research and see if it fits you.

my test is pretty high right now 902 ng/dl, so i feel like acp supressing my test a bit but that enclo helping my test go up will help balance things out

 

[rsj]

my test is pretty high right now 902 ng/dl, so i feel like acp supressing my test a bit but that enclo helping my test go up will help balance things out

the thing that matters more is the estrogen, as long as that is kept low its fine. you can have high testorone even as a teen if the estrogen is low. i think you gotta focus on that more. and plus the mk can help you grow (proven in studies of the compound under the name lum-201) so you you also have less to worry about in that regard. although if you do want it lightly suppressed go ahead bro it is your own body

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

the thing that matters more is the estrogen, as long as that is kept low its fine. you can have high testorone even as a teen if the estrogen is low. i think you gotta focus on that more. and plus the mk can help you grow (proven in studies of the compound under the name lum-201) so you you also have less to worry about in that regard. although if you do want it lightly suppressed go ahead bro it is your own body

im 17, only thing i can take away from this cycle is taht potential muscle mass, almost no suppression and long term health might have risks but its not like im hopping on tren without pct this is a newbie cycle and a prob a very safe one

 

[Tom pearl]

Saw a video from "Tony Huge" claiming that a mk 677, enclo, ac 262 is the ultimate natty cycle, i dont know much about this stuff so i would love to hear the opinion of .org experts

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If u get bloodwork and see your testosterone levels u would undertand more clear if u need this. Enclo Just raises test to high healthy range, geniuenly, while reference is 300-1000, most ppl Will have 800-1000 on enclo, but its not superphysiological, u can do it for fun but u Will gain 0 lbs additional muscle from this. It wont get u over 1000 ng/dl bc enclo has a limit. So if your natty test is already 700-1000, enclo Will do almost nothing at all. It Will anyway do something ONLY if u have low test, 300-450 ng/dl. Mk Will give some gh, something like 2 ius growth, and it Will also increase your appetite a lot. Overall its a good thing but quite weak. Ac 262 is a good sarm as far as i know and its probably low on sides. It Will build muscle im sure, but check your cholesterol on it, im sure it can affect that, bc its a pill and pills can easily mess with cholesterol. Get bloods 6 weeks into the cycle. It Will also suppress your natural t, u Will need to do pct for smth like 4-6 weeks after sending this cycle. Enclo is quite good for pct btw. But basic regular dose clomid is superior in price and effectiveness. Overall if u have normal test enclo Will be useless, Ac 262 Will build some muscle, mk Will give very little but still gh + a good appetite, then u need pct after this cycle, can use clomid or enclo 4-6 weeks regular dosing. Idk if it worth it for u. Can theoretically see sides like some water retention or smth with cholesterol (both good and bad cholesteroles) but geniuenly nothing gon happen

 

[bluebandz]

idc about "natty" tbh care about not destroying my natural test

hcg literally fixes this jfl

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

hcg literally fixes this jfl

will do

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

If u get bloodwork and see your testosterone levels u would undertand more clear if u need this. Enclo Just raises test to high healthy range, geniuenly, while reference is 300-1000, most ppl Will have 800-1000 on enclo, but its not superphysiological, u can do it for fun but u Will gain 0 lbs additional muscle from this. It wont get u over 1000 ng/dl bc enclo has a limit. So if your natty test is already 700-1000, enclo Will do almost nothing at all. It Will anyway do something ONLY if u have low test, 300-450 ng/dl. Mk Will give some gh, something like 2 ius growth, and it Will also increase your appetite a lot. Overall its a good thing but quite weak. Ac 262 is a good sarm as far as i know and its probably low on sides. It Will build muscle im sure, but check your cholesterol on it, im sure it can affect that, bc its a pill and pills can easily mess with cholesterol. Get bloods 6 weeks into the cycle. It Will also suppress your natural t, u Will need to do pct for smth like 4-6 weeks after sending this cycle. Enclo is quite good for pct btw. But basic regular dose clomid is superior in price and effectiveness. Overall if u have normal test enclo Will be useless, Ac 262 Will build some muscle, mk Will give very little but still gh + a good appetite, then u need pct after this cycle, can use clomid or enclo 4-6 weeks regular dosing. Idk if it worth it for u. Can theoretically see sides like some water retention or smth with cholesterol (both good and bad cholesteroles) but geniuenly nothing gon happen

hey holy fucking shit first high iq reply ive seen this year
last time i checked i was at 902 ng/dl of test im prob in high or mid 800s so enclo wont really do much would only use it as pct butttttttt, i do wanna hop on some stronger like a bit of test 300mg per week, but because my natty physique is not really maxxed out and its pretty respectable with a pump im thinking of doing a natty plus type of thing for a bit see if im ok with that physique and then hop on the strong stuff, because if i can have a physique ok satisfied with then ok im in, my shoulders and waist ratios are good so more muscle all i need, anyways thanks for the reply thoughts on this?

 

[Tom pearl]

hey holy fucking shit first high iq reply ive seen this year
last time i checked i was at 902 ng/dl of test im prob in high or mid 800s so enclo wont really do much would only use it as pct butttttttt, i do wanna hop on some stronger like a bit of test 300mg per week, but because my natty physique is not really maxxed out and its pretty respectable with a pump im thinking of doing a natty plus type of thing for a bit see if im ok with that physique and then hop on the strong stuff, because if i can have a physique ok satisfied with then ok im in, my shoulders and waist ratios are good so more muscle all i need, anyways thanks for the reply thoughts on this?

Your test is very high bro, 900 is a lot. I would say that if u want to do natty+ then the smart choice would be mk 677, can help u bulk, but can cause water retention, and u will look softer, rather then much better, but it depends on genetics. Abt test i would say that 300 would probably put u somewhere above 1500 ng/dl, which is enough to see additional muscle, also glycogen and water into muscle, which Will make u look like ure much bigger then u actually are, can be good if u want to look bigger righ away. Ac 262, as i said, Will give u some additional muscle with less bloat, then test, and the only cons is that u Will need to pct. Test Will help u in development, like facially and in terms of frame. I think u are 14, arent u? In this age hgh 6-8 ius + test 300-500 can chnage the way u look forever, and u will get a better face. But with hgh there are concerns that it can stunt your growth in heaght before natural limits and test when administrated Will not only raise testosterone, but also raise e2 bc they are proportionate. The more test u have - the more estrogen u have, so super high test Will obv lead to high estrogen. Lean ppl Will convert less test to estrogen, so some lean ppl dont have to control e2 on cycle, but most ppl Will get some kind of sides of high estrogen on 300, and obv nobody wants that. Reference for men for e2 is 10 to 44 pg/ml, at 300 test with good responce e2 Will be at least 40 usually, so u Will probably have to control e2, which means to take bloodworks bc u dont want to crash e2 bc its horribpe for health, but u also obv dont want high estrogen as a man. If u dont control your e2 on cycle u Will stop growing im height before reaching your full potential bc e2 is the primary closer of growth plates. U can also get gyno, a lot of water retention, your face and physique can look bloated, it can all happen if your e2 Will be high. Id say that the chance that u Would have to take something to control e2 is around 50%. The best for controling e2 is special roids or Just Anti estrogens. Roids like eq, primo Will counter act e2, but primo is rare and not very cheap and eq is an awful pile of shit that raises blood thickness to the levels of a 100 year old mcdonalds eating grandpa. So the easiest way is to Just take Anti estrogens. They are not anabolic and do nothing except for lowering e2, but they are quite safe and strong. Exemestane and anastrosol are the best for e2 control. Never take letrozole bc its super strong and can turn 100 e2 into 5, and that is super toxic for your brian. Exemestane 12,5-25 mg daily and anastrosol 1-1,5 mg per week usually get e2 in optimal ranges for ppl on cycle. So bascially after hopping on u Will need to take e2 bloodworks and lower it yourself, then u Will need to pct after this cycle. Also u need hgh for good results and its not cheap. If u are ready to deal with these things, also check cholesterol and live actively and drink water, then u Will gain a lot from this cycle, but u Will also need to run this cycle at least for 20 weeks for good effects. If u are ready to deal with it then test+hgh is the best, but if not u can stick with mk and ac

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

Your test is very high bro, 900 is a lot. I would say that if u want to do natty+ then the smart choice would be mk 677, can help u bulk, but can cause water retention, and u will look softer, rather then much better, but it depends on genetics. Abt test i would say that 300 would probably put u somewhere above 1500 ng/dl, which is enough to see additional muscle, also glycogen and water into muscle, which Will make u look like ure much bigger then u actually are, can be good if u want to look bigger righ away. Ac 262, as i said, Will give u some additional muscle with less bloat, then test, and the only cons is that u Will need to pct. Test Will help u in development, like facially and in terms of frame. I think u are 14, arent u? In this age hgh 6-8 ius + test 300-500 can chnage the way u look forever, and u will get a better face. But with hgh there are concerns that it can stunt your growth in heaght before natural limits and test when administrated Will not only raise testosterone, but also raise e2 bc they are proportionate. The more test u have - the more estrogen u have, so super high test Will obv lead to high estrogen. Lean ppl Will convert less test to estrogen, so some lean ppl dont have to control e2 on cycle, but most ppl Will get some kind of sides of high estrogen on 300, and obv nobody wants that. Reference for men for e2 is 10 to 44 pg/ml, at 300 test with good responce e2 Will be at least 40 usually, so u Will probably have to control e2, which means to take bloodworks bc u dont want to crash e2 bc its horribpe for health, but u also obv dont want high estrogen as a man. If u dont control your e2 on cycle u Will stop growing im height before reaching your full potential bc e2 is the primary closer of growth plates. U can also get gyno, a lot of water retention, your face and physique can look bloated, it can all happen if your e2 Will be high. Id say that the chance that u Would have to take something to control e2 is around 50%. The best for controling e2 is special roids or Just Anti estrogens. Roids like eq, primo Will counter act e2, but primo is rare and not very cheap and eq is an awful pile of shit that raises blood thickness to the levels of a 100 year old mcdonalds eating grandpa. So the easiest way is to Just take Anti estrogens. They are not anabolic and do nothing except for lowering e2, but they are quite safe and strong. Exemestane and anastrosol are the best for e2 control. Never take letrozole bc its super strong and can turn 100 e2 into 5, and that is super toxic for your brian. Exemestane 12,5-25 mg daily and anastrosol 1-1,5 mg per week usually get e2 in optimal ranges for ppl on cycle. So bascially after hopping on u Will need to take e2 bloodworks and lower it yourself, then u Will need to pct after this cycle. Also u need hgh for good results and its not cheap. If u are ready to deal with these things, also check cholesterol and live actively and drink water, then u Will gain a lot from this cycle, but u Will also need to run this cycle at least for 20 weeks for good effects. If u are ready to deal with it then test+hgh is the best, but if not u can stick with mk and ac

hey im 17, im thinking of just doing a natty plus type thing ac enclo mk, will take mk at night because it will reduce its effects bloating, ac does not bloat neither does enclo enclo only for PCT, anyways i will see first the natty plus and see what i can do,
my legit goal is clavicular physique im not even joking

ive heard people say this is achievable naturally and seeing my current 2 month back in working out physique id say it is even for me, but i just wanna get this hop off and just maintan it

 

[Tom pearl]

hey im 17, im thinking of just doing a natty plus type thing ac enclo mk, will take mk at night because it will reduce its effects bloating, ac does not bloat neither does enclo enclo only for PCT, anyways i will see first the natty plus and see what i can do,
my legit goal is clavicular physique im not even joking View attachment 5313944ive heard people say this is achievable naturally and seeing my current 2 month back in working out physique id say it is even for me, but i just wanna get this hop off and just maintan it

Alr good luck with it