MK + ENCLO THE SAFEST BEGGINER LOOKSMAXXING CYCLE

[t.griffin1403]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

 

[dragomog]

enclomiphened to this

 

[t.griffin1403]

gets to much hate imo

 

[lumified]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

why not do the real thing instead of this bs
not hating on ur experience btw

 

[t.griffin1403]

why not do the real thing instead of this bs
not hating on ur experience btw

travelling loads so i need smth oral and safe asf bro. plus im kinda to pussy for test and gh rn.

 

[lumified]

travelling loads so i need smth oral and safe asf bro. plus im kinda to pussy for test and gh rn.

rep me when I reply

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

"How do I stunt my growth" starter cyclee

 

[t.griffin1403]

"How do I stunt my growth" starter cyclee

what do i do to not stunt my growth then? im 186cm tryna be 190cm

 

[AtrophicPyra]

what do i do to not stunt my growth then? im 186cm tryna be 190cm

Gh, Anavar, ai

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Gh, Anavar, ai

Not even that bad but not optimal.

 

[t.griffin1403]

Gh, Anavar, ai

no test base?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

no test base?

Nope

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Not even that bad but not optimal.

This is literally the most optimal height stack

Any other androgen like test or tren is gonna make u lose inches of height

 

[zennn]

Gh, Anavar, ai

yo bro you go run this stack yourself okay?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

This is literally the most optimal height stack

Any other androgen like test or tren is gonna make u lose inches of height

factually not true.

 

[AtrophicPyra]

factually not true.

if 0.2mg/kg/d of anavar caused 1-7.5cm of lost height in studies what makes u think tren or test which r significantly more potent that ppl abuse in higher doses will do?

genuinely answer me

 

[AtrophicPyra]

yo bro you go run this stack yourself okay?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

if 0.2mg/kg/d of anavar caused 1-7.5cm of lost height in studies what makes u think tren or test which r significantly more potent that ppl abuse in higher doses will do?

genuinely answer me

Yeah that’s because anavar doesn’t suppress your estrogen enough for you to be able to get Androgenic signalling without having the risk of closing plates. Anavar doesn’t suppress your testosterone enough, not even close.

Let’s take halo as an example gave 6cm extra even though it’s way more Androgenic.

What oh my god how is that only possible???

Well because the estrogen was low enough.

Also take Aromatase deficiency as an example, individuals are being exposed to an fairly high, above average Androgenic load and still their plates don’t fuse.

Guess what’s the cause.

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

if 0.2mg/kg/d of anavar caused 1-7.5cm of lost height in studies what makes u think tren or test which r significantly more potent that ppl abuse in higher doses will do?

genuinely answer me

Actually after further thinking about this like holy shit this stack is retarded anavar only is retarded during development.

If you wanna be an undimorphic androgynous cuck, go ahead, no dose of anavar can replace your natural androgen levels during puberty.

You need stronger, more Androgenic compounds, like DHT, Tren, Mast, Winny, Halo.

So many reasons why var only is retarded, if you want, DM me and I’ll explained

 

[Diyorldar]

Finally a cycle that will make you insulin resistant and give you zero gains

 

[hatefoid]

travelling loads so i need smth oral and safe asf bro. plus im kinda to pussy for test and gh rn.

damn scared at 18, what’s next, at 30 suicide?

 

[qopd2]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

As someone who's run MK, this is the stupidest shit ever. All it did was give me a moon face. 4 months of 200 tests (no ai the first 3 jfl) grew my lower third by a visible amount. Maybe just run enclo + ai? Also 12 weeks is short asf, and you want to be running anything for longer periods of time to maximize your roi.

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Actually after further thinking about this like holy shit this stack is retarded anavar only is retarded during development.

If you wanna be an undimorphic androgynous cuck, go ahead, no dose of anavar can replace your natural androgen levels during puberty.

You need stronger, more Androgenic compounds, like DHT, Tren, Mast, Winny, Halo.

So many reasons why var only is retarded, if you want, DM me and I’ll explained

explain further ill dm u

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Actually after further thinking about this like holy shit this stack is retarded anavar only is retarded during development.

If you wanna be an undimorphic androgynous cuck, go ahead, no dose of anavar can replace your natural androgen levels during puberty.

You need stronger, more Androgenic compounds, like DHT, Tren, Mast, Winny, Halo.

So many reasons why var only is retarded, if you want, DM me and I’ll explained

i cant ping u but i dmed u and made a thread abt this look in my most recent threads bec i cant ping u

 

[jme0967]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

with all due respect this is retarded. Enclomiphene will immediately close your growth plates if still open. even will accelerate facial bone closure. not good. will not boost your test enough to make that meaningful of gains, barely anything compared to a real cycle. Mk is great and I use it, prob the cheapest bang for buck when talking about gh, plus its one less thing i have to inject. But test is not that scary, i inject every day and i thought it was scary at first too. now its more time consuming and annoying than anything. but still 5 minutes a day is worth it for improved dimo and muscle gain. use a 29g insulin needle needle and inject into your glute fat, it barely pinches and once it goes in, you dont feel it at all.

 

[t.griffin1403]

damn scared at 18, what’s next, at 30 suicide?

niga did u not read and see i said orals

 

[t.griffin1403]

with all due respect this is retarded. Enclomiphene will immediately close your growth plates if still open. even will accelerate facial bone closure. not good. will not boost your test enough to make that meaningful of gains, barely anything compared to a real cycle. Mk is great and I use it, prob the cheapest bang for buck when talking about gh, plus its one less thing i have to inject. But test is not that scary, i inject every day and i thought it was scary at first too. now its more time consuming and annoying than anything. but still 5 minutes a day is worth it for improved dimo and muscle gain. use a 29g insulin needle needle and inject into your glute fat, it barely pinches and once it goes in, you dont feel it at all.

yh thats valid. So what like 30mg of test propiante a day with MK?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Stop to DNR me buddy Boyo.

Check DMs

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Stop to DNR me buddy Boyo.

Check DMs

@AtrophicPyra

 

[India lover 52]

This is literally the most optimal height stack

Any other androgen like test or tren is gonna make u lose inches of height

test + tren no gh made me grow multiple inches

 

[t.griffin1403]

test + tren no gh made me grow multiple inches

proof?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

test + tren no gh made me grow multiple inches

That increases height velocity but will decrease ur final adult height

 

[bluebandz]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

you have to be fucking joking

 

[t.griffin1403]

you have to be fucking joking

like you were never in this position before

 

[bluebandz]

like you were never in this position before

my plates were closed already
obviously i was never in a position where i would take fucking mk

 

[iblamebonemass0]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

1.
Enclomiphene can take a low-T individual from 350ng/dL to a high-normal 800ng/dL, but it cannot push past the absolute physical capacity of your testes.
Test Enanthate, f.e. completely bypasses the brain and the testes. Because it is injected exogenously, there is no physiological ceiling. A standard dose 500 mg/week easily propels serum testosterone levels to 3000-5000 ng/dL. Bone remodeling—specifically periosteal apposition (width growth) via Androgen Receptors—is highly dose-dependent.

2.
Enclomiphene molecules physically occupy and block the Estrogen Receptors located on your osteoblasts and osteocytes .The estrogenic bone-building signal is neutralized. While Test E causes a massive spike in both T and free E2 (flooding and hyper-activating bone estrogen receptors), Enclo blocks those very same bone receptors, preventing the accelerated bone density.

3.
Also the immense volume Test E results in a massive overflow of DHT. This androgenic load stimulates the receptors in the bone, signaling the osteoblasts to deposit new bone matrix much more than Enclo. (Because it cannot surpass the natural max.)

 

[India lover 52]

That increases height velocity but will decrease ur final adult height

i am 6'8 my dad is 6'5 my mom is 5'9

 

[AtrophicPyra]

i am 6'8 my dad is 6'5 my mom is 5'9

You would have been 7 foot then u were always gonna be 6’8 they just increased ur height velocity

Once again, for the millionth time it is impossible for androgens to increase fah

 

[India lover 52]

You would have been 7 foot then u were always gonna be 6’8 they just increased ur height velocity

Once again, for the millionth time it is impossible for androgens to increase fah

proof? i thought i was done growing before i hopped on

 

[jme0967]

yh thats valid. So what like 30mg of test propiante a day with MK?

Idk much about propionate but I'm currently halfway through a test cypionate cycle of 100mg a day. Make sure you get aromasin because your e2 will get out of control. Alternatively you can look into adding equipoise which I wish I would have done/still might do anyway.

 

[rsj]

Im almost 18 years old and i want to capitalize on my last months of teenage development, my growth plates are slowly fusing and i will finish my development soon but im not satisfied with how i turned out. Dont get me wrtong i have a decent MTN base but im not tryna stay an MTN chud bruh. I want to do something about it but im terribly scared of the side effects. In a perfect world without side effects id run test and hgh, but first of its to expensive and second of all im to scared of the sides. So im probably gonna go the more pussy way and run smth similar with way less side effects which can be midigated when smart about it. Thats why i made this study paper where im gonna be the subject. Im posting coz i want input from the comunity bout this. Is MK677 and Enclomofine ran smartly for a 12 week cycle valid in my case?

not gonna do that much bro. its safe a hell and can do something but it this age and these compounds max you'll get is an inch if that. think this more as a gym supps than height as they wont do anything. maybe consider an AI to keep them open for longer and height.

 

[Adyta69]

scared of needles ahh cycle