Modafinil vs Aderral.. What is the best way to increase focus and attentiveness?

[joseph]

20 year old here. Decently smart but have a very short attention span and get easily distracted. Studying in college and I need something that will take me to the next level by helping me get wired. I've only heard of aderral and modafinil but I'm not sure if any of those will actually help? Does anyone have experience with this and also the side effects? (please tag users who have done experimentation). There is no point in using either of these if (as I heard) they cause acne or other side effects destroying one's looks.

 

[Deleted member 3962]

been taking adderall many yearz for my adhd and it just mellows u out and makes u more beta. Whenever im off da pill im dark triad slayer tbh. On it im a cuck

 

[Deleted member 2846]

adderall can be addictive. i have taken it recreationally and can definitely see why people get hooked

 

[KEy21]

been taking adderall many yearz for my adhd and it just mellows u out and makes u more beta. Whenever im off da pill im dark triad slayer tbh. On it im a cuck

yeah for ppl with legitimate ADHD the amphetamine salt mixture serves closer to a downer or calming agent.

 

[BlackPillChad]

What about ritalin? I know @cocainecowboy swears by it

 

[Hades]

Fun fact: Adderall is one molecule away from being Meth

 

[Vitruvian]

U don't need them. But try and see for yourself

 

[KEy21]

Fun fact: Adderall is one molecule away from being Meth

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I mean they're amphetamine salts...

Both horrible for collagen synthesis

 

[Deleted member 439]

adderall mogs but its dangerous and addictive unlike modafinil

 

[Bimax]

Adderall and other stims with similar effects to it are so much better than cope modafinil

 

[TheMewingBBC]

Fun fact: Adderall is one molecule away from being Meth

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*atom
And that don't mean shit lol
Water is one atom away from peroxide
Salt is one atom away from chloride
But can you drink peroxide or season your food with chloride? You can if you're ropemaxxing

 

[invisiblecel]

Modafinil owns but I'd say it also makes you more anxious, it's fine if you only take it on days when you don't go out of the house

 

[Deleted member 3990]

U don't need them. But try and see for yourself

yep


Goyim take those pills so you can study better, so that you can be a better slave



Own your ADHD and go a way where it is not really a problem tbh. I accepted it (coping in a sense)

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

yep


Goyim take those pills so you can study better, so that you can be a better slave



Own your ADHD and go a way where it is not really a problem tbh. I accepted it (coping in a sense)

Modafinil is shit niggee

 

[Deleted member 2486]

I mean they're amphetamine salts...

Both horrible for collagen synthesis

do you know anything about ritalin(methylphendiate) and collagen synthesis? i googled some but didnt find relation. in case its very bad ill taper off it next year

 

[Deleted member 2846]

do you know anything about ritalin(methylphendiate) and collagen synthesis? i googled some but didnt find relation. in case its very bad ill taper off it next year

no wonder ur skin is fucked boyo

 

[Deleted member 2486]

no wonder ur skin is fucked boyo

its not from that jfl. its from being obese and sedentary lifestyle for more than a decade with sitting on my ass 10+ hrs every day. my skin has been drastically improving ever since i started looksmaxxing, im just wondering if it could've been improving even more given i wasnt taking ritalin, or should i stop etc

 

[Chadelite]

its not from that jfl. its from being obese and sedentary lifestyle for more than a decade with sitting on my ass 10+ hrs every day. my skin has been drastically improving ever since i started looksmaxxing, im just wondering if it could've been improving even more given i wasnt taking ritalin, or should i stop etc

Why didn’t u believe me


when I say I’m a 6ft 3 Arab bbc slayrr

future gigachad

why?

 

[Deleted member 2486]

Why didn’t u believe me


when I say I’m a 6ft 3 Arab bbc slayrr

future gigachad

why?

because people who very good traits, whatever it is usually don't need to parrott about the given traits as they get their validation from them IRL and don't need a bunch of aspie kids validate them

there is usually 2 scenarios

a; person who has ONE good trait and parrots his one good trait 24/7 out of insecurity for rest of his traits

b; person has no good traits, so he pretends to be someone he isnt as means to get validation he never got or ever will in lifetime

 

[Chadelite]

because people who very good traits, whatever it is usually don't need to parrott about the given traits as they get their validation from them IRL and don't need a bunch of aspie kids validate them

there is usually 2 scenarios

a; person who has ONE good trait and parrots his one good trait 24/7 out of insecurity for rest of his traits

b; person has no good traits, so he pretends to be someone he isnt as means to get validation he never got or ever will in lifetime

What if I was super fst

but I bragged?

so fatcel is volcel

doesnt mean someone Is lying

 

[karbo]

its not from that jfl. its from being obese and sedentary lifestyle for more than a decade with sitting on my ass 10+ hrs every day. my skin has been drastically improving ever since i started looksmaxxing, im just wondering if it could've been improving even more given i wasnt taking ritalin, or should i stop etc

ritalint honnan rendelsz?

 

[TheMewingBBC]

If you wanna go the non prescription route, try caffeine and L theanine. To me, modafinil is trash for attention/focus and motivation, but I'm pretty more vocal and social and the wakefulness/alertness is there. Adderall is more effective but from experience a long time ago the sides suck, looking for a plug tho.

Caffeine and L theanine works for focusing, not as strong as adderall but the closer to it than modafinil. Take at least 200mg of each to feel the effects

 

[Cody]

Is adhd really that prevalent or is this another dumb trend in the west

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

If you wanna go the non prescription route, try caffeine and L theanine. To me, modafinil is trash for attention/focus and motivation, but I'm pretty more vocal and social and the wakefulness/alertness is there. Adderall is more effective but from experience a long time ago the sides suck, looking for a plug tho.

Caffeine and L theanine works for focusing, not as strong as adderall but the closer to it than modafinil. Take at least 200mg of each to feel the effects

Son, moda and caffeine is legit, but moda only keeps me away and caffeine keeps me awake too, if i take both i can go 1 day with 4 hour of sleep while normally i couldnt go 5 hours with 20 hour sleep. Legit shit but theres no drug for low IQ , it is what it is

 

[Deleted member 2486]

What if I was super fst

but I bragged?

so fatcel is volcel

doesnt mean someone Is lying

if you are good looking you dont need to spam your pictures for aspies calling you good looking, because your IRL experiences back you up.

if you are tall you don't need to be making threads about how you mog people or how "tall you feel" or how "called you tall"

etc.

you get the point. whenever you see people doing either of those there's usually a reason for them to do it, unless they have literally narcissistic disorder in a very medical DSM sense. the only person who may have that is belnar, everyone else is just pseudo-narcie

ritalint honnan rendelsz?

orvos/recept. elég nehéz szerezni asszem máshogy

 

[Chadelite]

if you are good looking you dont need to spam your pictures for aspies calling you good looking, because your IRL experiences back you up.

if you are tall you don't need to be making threads about how you mog people or how "tall you feel" or how "called you tall"

etc.

you get the point. whenever you see people doing either of those there's usually a reason for them to do it, unless they have literally narcissistic disorder in a very medical DSM sense. the only person who may have that is belnar, everyone else is just pseudo-narcie


orvos/recept. elég nehéz szerezni asszem máshogy

Kl

ur very insightful


ur very smart im guessing

screw Iq it is bs

 

[Cody]

Is adhd really that prevalent or is this another dumb trend in the west

Lol what so apparently 9% of kids are diagnosed with adhd.

That's complete bullshit, I mean how the fuck do you differentiate a kid doing stupid things kids do to kids with ADHD

I mean nobody ever talks about muh label muh disorder here.

 

[TheMewingBBC]

Son, moda and caffeine is legit, but moda only keeps me away and caffeine keeps me awake too, if i take both i can go 1 day with 4 hour of sleep while normally i couldnt go 5 hours with 20 hour sleep. Legit shit but theres no drug for low IQ , it is what it is

I know that it works for some, I'm just stating my own experience.
And who tf you calling son, dont let your baldness mistaken you with you underage fortune telling 8 ball for a skull ass

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

I know that it works for some, I'm just stating my own experience.
And who tf you calling son, dont let your baldness mistaken you with you underage fortune telling 8 ball for a skull ass

Okay son, i wont call son you anymore

 

[KEy21]

Lol what so apparently 9% of kids are diagnosed with adhd.

That's complete bullshit, I mean how the fuck do you differentiate a kid doing stupid things kids do to kids with ADHD

I mean nobody ever talks about muh label muh disorder here.

Thorough Cognitive testing

 

[Cody]

Thorough Cognitive testing

"Is he interested in homework"

"Does he spin around a lot"

"Does he fidget?"

Yeah your kid has x y z it's over for him

 

[beyourself]

"Is he interested in homework"

"Does he spin around a lot"

"Does he fidget?"

Yeah your kid has x y z it's over for him

shieeet
I'll make a petition one day to ban Palvin avis
shiiiiet​

 

[sloopnoob]

moda stopped working for me so keep desensitization in mind. I've been taking it everyday for a month now. Started with 100mg then 100mg 2times a day. to 200mg when I start feeling sleepy just to squeeze out more of studying. Now at 200mg sublingual when sleepy.

 

[Raax]

IF YOU GUYS KNOW ANY SOURCE FOR RITLAIN OR ADDERALL PLEASE FUCKING HELP ME OUT BY PMING ME
I HAVE WENT TO MULTIPLE LOCAL PHARMACIES AND THEY KEPT ASKING FOR DOC PRESCRIPTION
I REALLY NEED AN ONLINE SOURCE
AS FOR DARKWEB, ALL THE MARKETS ARE DOWN(EMPIRE ETC)
I CSNT GO TO A DOC CUZ THEY WILL ENLIST ME AS HAVING PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES AND THAT WILL HINDER ME IN GETTING JOBS, ITS STIGMATISED HERE IN HONG KONG

 

[Cody]

IF YOU GUYS KNOW ANY SOURCE FOR RITLAIN OR ADDERALL PLEASE FUCKING HELP ME OUT BY PMING ME
I HAVE WENT TO MULTIPLE LOCAL PHARMACIES AND THEY KEPT ASKING FOR DOC PRESCRIPTION
I REALLY NEED AN ONLINE SOURCE
AS FOR DARKWEB, ALL THE MARKETS ARE DOWN

Go to psychiatrist and tell them you fidget a lot

Also go look at darkweb markets

 

[KEy21]

"Is he interested in homework"

"Does he spin around a lot"

"Does he fidget?"

Yeah your kid has x y z it's over for him

So you don’t have any grasp of how it’s tested for...and have an opinion on the testing?

 

[Cody]

So you don’t have any grasp of how it’s tested for...and have an opinion on the testing?

I might sound like an ignorant Boomer but I have never heard of ADHD where I live

Meanwhile it's almost like it has become an epidemic in the west, either people like to brag about their label or you're all being overdiagnosed

And to answer your question, there are no MRI scans of the brain to determine ADHD, it's just an interview with the child where you desperately try to fit all normal behavior of children into little checkboxes that you tick off

Ffs I've just read that in many areas like Virginia, 33% of boys are diagnosed. Jfl if you don't think ADHD is over-diagnosed

 

[KEy21]

I might sound like an ignorant Boomer but I have never heard of ADHD where I live

Meanwhile it's almost like it has become an epidemic in the west, either people like to brag about their label or you're all being overdiagnosed

And to answer your question, there are no MRI scans of the brain to determine ADHD, it's just an interview with the child where you desperately try to fit all normal behavior of children into little checkboxes that you tick off

Ffs I've just read that in many areas like Virginia, 33% of boys are diagnosed. Jfl if you don't think ADHD is over-diagnosed

You admit ignorance but are still trying to justify your stances on the topic.

Psychiatry and other practices are still in their relative infancy stages in comparison to other medical professions. PTSD existed during the Roman times among soldiers, but they would just be given therapy by way of song and being waited on with superior accommodations in their fragile states. Only until much later people start to truly get a grasp of mental health impacts of trauma and other related happenings. Something like the 1600's or even later.

In medical practices infancy people who were able to heal were considered witches by the ignorant idiots - And sometimes burnt at the stake. This is similar to what goes on within forums like this and others. Automatic conclusion jumping and broad categorizations to just dismiss it as ridiculous by those who don't understand.

It's currently over prescribed still but has been trending upward. The cognitive testing is much more advanced than interviewing a child. I don't know how it's done in your mudhut land but testing in regard to the way your brain thinks is ample cognitive testing to determine a diagnosis as concluded by 10,000+ research papers on the topic. This also isn't done by an "interview" or by asking ANY of the questions that you listed.

 

[Cody]

You admit ignorance but are still trying to justify your stances on the topic.

Psychiatry and other practices are still in their relative infancy stages in comparison to other medical professions. PTSD existed during the Roman times among soldiers, but they would just be given therapy by way of song and being waited on with superior accommodations in their fragile states. Only until much later people start to truly get a grasp of mental health impacts of trauma and other related happenings. Something like the 1600's or even later.

In medical practices infancy people who were able to heal were considered witches by the ignorant idiots - And sometimes burnt at the stake. This is similar to what goes on within forums like this and others. Automatic conclusion jumping and broad categorizations to just dismiss it as ridiculous by those who don't understand.

It's currently over prescribed still but has been trending upward. The cognitive testing is much more advanced than interviewing a child. I don't know how it's done in your mudhut land but testing in regard to the way your brain thinks is ample cognitive testing to determine a diagnosis as concluded by 10,000+ research papers on the topic. This also isn't done by an "interview" or by asking ANY of the questions that you listed.

I didn't admit ignorance I'm just saying there is a huge discrepancy between mental illnesses in the West and elsewhere.

I'm not denying mental illnesses aren't real. (I browse this forum after all). I'm saying it's harder to convince that you're sane than insane when you're sitting down with a psychiatrist. There's obviously going to be bias in how he/she will interpret the answers and even body language.

It's currently overprescribed but trending upwards. What do you mean by this, it's only going to get worse? Which means an even bigger pharmacy problem. Or did you mean trending downwards? Soonn enough it seems like having no mental illness is a mental illness itself jfl

I checked to see cognitive testing for ADHD and I couldn't find much but this from one doc:

To date, no neuropsychological tests can reliably identify ADHD. Although cognitive testing demonstrates deficits in some individuals with ADHD, in others it does not. Likewise, individuals who demonstrate challenges with attention or impulsivity (ADHD traits) on cognitive testing may not meet criteria for ADHD. To meet full criteria for ADHD, patients must currently experience at least 6 of 9 inattentive and/or 6 of 9 impulsive/hyperactive traits, and must have demonstrated a long-standing pattern of these challenges since early childhood, causing impairment in 2 or more settings of their life. Note that these criteria do not require that individuals demonstrate deficits during testing.

Again, checkboxes. Everywhere I look for how it is diagnosed it seems to be an interview with some mental health professional.

It's a Ted talk but it's pretty good (disregard the nasal cuck voice)

 

[KEy21]

I didn't admit ignorance I'm just saying there is a huge discrepancy between mental illnesses in the West and elsewhere.

I'm not denying mental illnesses aren't real. (I browse this forum after all). I'm saying it's harder to convince that you're sane than insane when you're sitting down with a psychiatrist. There's obviously going to be bias in how he/she will interpret the answers and even body language.

It's currently overprescribed but trending upwards. What do you mean by this, it's only going to get worse? As if 33% in some areas isn't bad enough. Which means an even bigger pharmacy problem. Or did you mean trending downwards? Soonn enough it seems like having no mental illness is a mental illness itself jfl

I checked to see cognitive testing for ADHD and I couldn't find much but this from one doc:



Again, checkboxes. Everywhere I look for how it is diagnosed it seems to be an interview with some mental health professional.

It's a Ted talk but it's pretty good (disregard the nasal cuck voice)

I mean trending upwards as in the screenings are becoming better through trial and error - And scientists and doctors are understanding the negative impact that addiction and manipulation by people who abuse the drugs has.

For example 20 years ago you could go get ADHD stimulants for free if you just said as you outlined.

Now the screening is longer and more rigorous than it used to be. Trial and error is inevitable with mental health.

Yes I will watch the video

 

[TheMewingBBC]

20 year old here. Decently smart but have a very short attention span and get easily distracted. Studying in college and I need something that will take me to the next level by helping me get wired.

Also learn how to create a memory palace inside your head. Seriously, used this in high school and the one college semester I attended and managed to score 85% and higher on almost all of my test/exams with little study, most of the extra studying I got outside of lessons were around one hour before the test started.

It will be a hard habit to adopt as a new learning technique but as soon as you get used to it you will really enjoy the usage and it may eliminate the need of stimulants. I have ADHD myself but in high school I never used them because it wasnt common in my area and my west African parent didn't believe adhd was a thing, I'm only using them now to get through the night at my part time.

But yeah, give it a try. I really swear by this.



I also combine memory palace with Feynman technique

 

[Lux]

adderall mogs but its dangerous and addictive unlike modafinil

no more addictive than coffee in my experience & I'm a heavy user.

This also isn't done by an "interview" or by asking ANY of the questions that you listed.

Idk I faked the diagnoses pretty easy. Just 30 mins of questions about my focus that basically went how he said.

 

[KEy21]

no more addictive than coffee in my experience & I'm a heavy user.

Idk I faked the diagnoses pretty easy. Just 30 mins of questions about my focus that basically went how he said.

Your doctors are still stuck in the 90's - Many new facilities that accept health insurance from non nigger plans - Do more thorough testing nowadays

 

[IndianJock]

Try NoSurf. Constant internet use, random browsing and such has been shown to decrease attention span, but luckily it can be fixed.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

You admit ignorance but are still trying to justify your stances on the topic.

Psychiatry and other practices are still in their relative infancy stages in comparison to other medical professions. PTSD existed during the Roman times among soldiers, but they would just be given therapy by way of song and being waited on with superior accommodations in their fragile states. Only until much later people start to truly get a grasp of mental health impacts of trauma and other related happenings. Something like the 1600's or even later.

In medical practices infancy people who were able to heal were considered witches by the ignorant idiots - And sometimes burnt at the stake. This is similar to what goes on within forums like this and others. Automatic conclusion jumping and broad categorizations to just dismiss it as ridiculous by those who don't understand.

It's currently over prescribed still but has been trending upward. The cognitive testing is much more advanced than interviewing a child. I don't know how it's done in your mudhut land but testing in regard to the way your brain thinks is ample cognitive testing to determine a diagnosis as concluded by 10,000+ research papers on the topic. This also isn't done by an "interview" or by asking ANY of the questions that you listed.

I might sound like an ignorant Boomer but I have never heard of ADHD where I live

Meanwhile it's almost like it has become an epidemic in the west, either people like to brag about their label or you're all being overdiagnosed

And to answer your question, there are no MRI scans of the brain to determine ADHD, it's just an interview with the child where you desperately try to fit all normal behavior of children into little checkboxes that you tick off

Ffs I've just read that in many areas like Virginia, 33% of boys are diagnosed. Jfl if you don't think ADHD is over-diagnosed

My belief is that adhd is a product of a school system that isn’t suitable for boys. Natives and people in the past were more chadlike and dimorphic for many reasons, and one of those is probably the decrease in physical activity. School is made to turn is into high inhib, cuck, wageslaves.

So adhd is probably just a diagnosis for people with personalities that don’t fit well enough for them to be obedient in school

 

[Deleted member 4416]

modafinil but no more than twice a week

 

[Cody]

My belief is that adhd is a product of a school system that isn’t suitable for boys. Natives and people in the past were more chadlike and dimorphic for many reasons, and one of those is probably the decrease in physical activity. School is made to turn is into high inhib, cuck, wageslaves.

So adhd is probably just a diagnosis for people with personalities that don’t fit well enough for them to be obedient in school

If you're talking about those who have legitimately have adhd, a lot of mental illness is highly heritable (ADHD has a rate of 0.77-.87)meaning genetics influence them a lot more than environment.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

If you're talking about those who have legitimately have adhd, a lot of mental illness is highly heritable (ADHD has a rate of 0.77-.87)meaning genetics influence them a lot more than environment.

Personality is heritable to some degree as well, I think adhd is just a type of personality that is better suited to tasks and lifestyles that don’t really exist rn. For the record I’m diagnosed with adhd but think it’s a misdiagnosis so that could be a bias

 

[Deleted member 502]

Modafinil gave me skin rashes due to release of histamine. Never tried aderral but would like to give it a go at some point.

 

[SixFootManlet]

no more addictive than coffee in my experience & I'm a heavy user.

Exactly what an addict would say tbh

Modafinil gave me skin rashes due to release of histamine. Never tried aderral but would like to give it a go at some point.

Yeah don't take moda again if you had that reaction. Fortunately I've never experienced that ever.

been taking adderall many yearz for my adhd and it just mellows u out and makes u more beta. Whenever im off da pill im dark triad slayer tbh. On it im a cuck

Interesting, if true

When I'm on modafinil I get pissed-of quite easily. Makes me more talkative and sociable as well.

Try NoSurf. Constant internet use, random browsing and such has been shown to decrease attention span, but luckily it can be fixed.

aimless web browsing = constant mini hits of dopamine

Literally worse than fapping.