Modern dating has been created by the patriarchy in order to benefit most men (GTFIH lifefuel) (High IQ)

[irrumator praetor]

I know the title should've said "most successful men" because most people here would only agree with that (hypergamy), but towards the end of the thread I will make a strong plausible argument that modern dating can actually benefit most men, if most men play their cards perfectly right (Im talking about average looks - of course, according to the bell curve distribution, most men would not in fact play their cards "perfectly right"). Yes, that would mean it benefits YOU as opposed to having no dating market and just strict monogamy.

This is why the system of strict monogamy was actually protecting women and not men, and was designed for the benefit of women primarily (built around SIMPING and betabuxxing). Polygamy and hypergamy are designed around men winning, and the top men ofc. But today we have practical monogamy (people still end up reproducing with 1 partner they settled with) with play-hypergamy, the most male-biased system there could be (most men have a chance to reproduce while also being able to slay before settling down, foids only get mental health issues before settling down)

Especially nowadays, as an AVERAGE MAN, you've more possibilities to cheat and run the same game over and over again, rack up as many bodies as you possibly can, more than ever before, all at the expense of the mental health of confused, indoctrinated, brainwashed and still enslaved FOIDS. Once again, we gotta thank our best buddies Israel and CIA for this one, the international bankers as well. Soo based, western, neoliberal and faustian. Its a brick ceiling for them bitches. Anyway

Female romantic priorities are feelings, then sex. Feelings in the sense of her biological interests, which are securing commitment from you or getting positive commitment signals from you. Sex is secondary and comes with attraction and only accompanied with positive commitment signals. These signals need to be subconscious, but they can be conscious also. As in, you fuck then you buy uber eats. She doesn't necessarily want commitment from you, she maybe even wants the total opposite of that. But subconsciously she needs that positive investment signal from you, at least in the form of buying some cheap ass food, so she doesn't feel terrible after the sex. Women could start fucking every guy off the street cuz all of them would say yes, but they would feel terrible. They need commitment in exchange, coupled with meaningful sexual attraction (SMV, above average or average at least...)
Male romantic priority, if the man is not a faggot, should only and purely be SEX. Therefore, the man games the woman into optimizing their relationship towards getting as much SEX out of the female as possible while paying the least with "commitment".

If we analyse just these basic facts, we will understand how modern free and no commitment dating and sex would benefit the male strategy more than the female, and also how it would naturally drive women mad over time, collecting mental illnesses because their own urges, nature and society torture them as they grow up and develop. But now, how could this possibly benefit a 5/10 guy if we are aware of hypergamy?

Guys belong in 3 different categories, according to women: the sex-only chad - they don't even want commitment from that guy, hes ideally only for sex because he would have way too many very good options. It would break the womans heart. The husband or relationship guy - could be good looking and "safe" as an option, or just an average guy. Then the subhumanoid slave - commitment only with no sex. Basically a paypig lol

The ONS or FWB guy is the sex only chad. But the relationships guys (most guys) can utilize GAME to maximize sex with minimizing commitment. For a guy in a relationship, sex is a priority over which you can leave a foid. You should set, in the relationship, a rate at which you wanna fuck the foid, and if it dips below that then you cheat or leave or likewise adjust commitment. If you know how to effectively show commitment, and utilize it to get sex from multiple foids, develop a really good cheating system, you could be racking in soo many bodies as a literal IQmaxxed normie. But then, paradoxically, you wouldn't be a mere normie anymore...

Last question: yes I'm currently using this to slay and game foids myself and its working

the end

 

[incomplete]

mirin effort, actually did read

 

[greylurker]

first few sentneces seem high iq so ill actually read and share my thoughts!

 

[Divineincel]

I know the title should've said "most successful men" because most people here would only agree with that (hypergamy), but towards the end of the thread I will make a strong plausible argument that modern dating can actually benefit most men, if most men play their cards perfectly right (Im talking about average looks - of course, according to the bell curve distribution, most men would not in fact play their cards "perfectly right"). Yes, that would mean it benefits YOU as opposed to having no dating market and just strict monogamy.

This is why the system of strict monogamy was actually protecting women and not men, and was designed for the benefit of women primarily (built around SIMPING and betabuxxing). Polygamy and hypergamy are designed around men winning, and the top men ofc. But today we have practical monogamy (people still end up reproducing with 1 partner they settled with) with play-hypergamy, the most male-biased system there could be (most men have a chance to reproduce while also being able to slay before settling down, foids only get mental health issues before settling down)

Especially nowadays, as an AVERAGE MAN, you've more possibilities to cheat and run the same game over and over again, rack up as many bodies as you possibly can, more than ever before, all at the expense of the mental health of confused, indoctrinated, brainwashed and still enslaved FOIDS. Once again, we gotta thank our best buddies Israel and CIA for this one, the international bankers as well. Soo based, western, neoliberal and faustian. Its a brick ceiling for them bitches. Anyway

Female romantic priorities are feelings, then sex. Feelings in the sense of her biological interests, which are securing commitment from you or getting positive commitment signals from you. Sex is secondary and comes with attraction and only accompanied with positive commitment signals. These signals need to be subconscious, but they can be conscious also. As in, you fuck then you buy uber eats. She doesn't necessarily want commitment from you, she maybe even wants the total opposite of that. But subconsciously she needs that positive investment signal from you, at least in the form of buying some cheap ass food, so she doesn't feel terrible after the sex. Women could start fucking every guy off the street cuz all of them would say yes, but they would feel terrible. They need commitment in exchange, coupled with meaningful sexual attraction (SMV, above average or average at least...)
Male romantic priority, if the man is not a faggot, should only and purely be SEX. Therefore, the man games the woman into optimizing their relationship towards getting as much SEX out of the female as possible while paying the least with "commitment".

If we analyse just these basic facts, we will understand how modern free and no commitment dating and sex would benefit the male strategy more than the female, and also how it would naturally drive women mad over time, collecting mental illnesses because their own urges, nature and society torture them as they grow up and develop. But now, how could this possibly benefit a 5/10 guy if we are aware of hypergamy?

Guys belong in 3 different categories, according to women: the sex-only chad - they don't even want commitment from that guy, hes ideally only for sex because he would have way too many very good options. It would break the womans heart. The husband or relationship guy - could be good looking and "safe" as an option, or just an average guy. Then the subhumanoid slave - commitment only with no sex. Basically a paypig lol

The ONS or FWB guy is the sex only chad. But the relationships guys (most guys) can utilize GAME to maximize sex with minimizing commitment. For a guy in a relationship, sex is a priority over which you can leave a foid. You should set, in the relationship, a rate at which you wanna fuck the foid, and if it dips below that then you cheat or leave or likewise adjust commitment. If you know how to effectively show commitment, and utilize it to get sex from multiple foids, develop a really good cheating system, you could be racking in soo many bodies as a literal IQmaxxed normie. But then, paradoxically, you wouldn't be a mere normie anymore...

Last question: yes I'm currently using this to slay and game foids myself and its working

the end

There is around 7 men to 3 women according to my calculations

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Larp

 

[greylurker]

hmmm, whats your proposal/ the most optimal life path for men then? is it polyamarous relationships? i was hoping this thread was gonna go more into how the average man can ascend to a high SMV even if he wasnt dealt the best hands ngl

 

[irrumator praetor]

mirin effort, actually did read

thnx G, chatgpt and instagram redpiller reels worked overtime with me on this one

it seems men are struggling cuz of the failure of societal institutions which would've preserved this info for the populace. The average life of a normie is getting more friction and is becoming harder, therefore we are regressing

this is why only the top 20% sex-only chads seem to be winning, because it just takes no effort (hypergamy). Some of these fags even get cuffed by foids simply because they're retarded (that's genuinely disgusting)

we forgot how women even operate and this is merely a reminder that we are still living in a MANS WORLD not some faggot matriarchy or whatever these foids are fantasizing about on tiktok

 

[Roara]

I know the title should've said "most successful men"

immediate clickbait

 

[incomplete]

confirmed high iq user

thnx G, chatgpt and instagram redpiller reels worked overtime with me on this one

it seems men are struggling cuz of the failure of societal institutions which would've preserved this info for the populace. The average life of a normie is getting more friction and is becoming harder, therefore we are regressing

this is why only the top 20% sex-only chads seem to be winning, because it just takes no effort (hypergamy). Some of these fags even get cuffed by foids simply because they're retarded (that's genuinely disgusting)

we forgot how women even operate and this is merely a reminder that we are still living in a MANS WORLD not some faggot matriarchy or whatever these foids are fantasizing about on tiktok

 

[irrumator praetor]

There is around 7 men to 3 women according to my calculations

what? Population gender asymmetry on average is like, such that bottom 10% men would never reproduce no matter the societal conditions, something along those lines

 

[trvegoy]

I know the title should've said "most successful men" because most people here would only agree with that (hypergamy), but towards the end of the thread I will make a strong plausible argument that modern dating can actually benefit most men, if most men play their cards perfectly right (Im talking about average looks - of course, according to the bell curve distribution, most men would not in fact play their cards "perfectly right"). Yes, that would mean it benefits YOU as opposed to having no dating market and just strict monogamy.

This is why the system of strict monogamy was actually protecting women and not men, and was designed for the benefit of women primarily (built around SIMPING and betabuxxing). Polygamy and hypergamy are designed around men winning, and the top men ofc. But today we have practical monogamy (people still end up reproducing with 1 partner they settled with) with play-hypergamy, the most male-biased system there could be (most men have a chance to reproduce while also being able to slay before settling down, foids only get mental health issues before settling down)

Especially nowadays, as an AVERAGE MAN, you've more possibilities to cheat and run the same game over and over again, rack up as many bodies as you possibly can, more than ever before, all at the expense of the mental health of confused, indoctrinated, brainwashed and still enslaved FOIDS. Once again, we gotta thank our best buddies Israel and CIA for this one, the international bankers as well. Soo based, western, neoliberal and faustian. Its a brick ceiling for them bitches. Anyway

Female romantic priorities are feelings, then sex. Feelings in the sense of her biological interests, which are securing commitment from you or getting positive commitment signals from you. Sex is secondary and comes with attraction and only accompanied with positive commitment signals. These signals need to be subconscious, but they can be conscious also. As in, you fuck then you buy uber eats. She doesn't necessarily want commitment from you, she maybe even wants the total opposite of that. But subconsciously she needs that positive investment signal from you, at least in the form of buying some cheap ass food, so she doesn't feel terrible after the sex. Women could start fucking every guy off the street cuz all of them would say yes, but they would feel terrible. They need commitment in exchange, coupled with meaningful sexual attraction (SMV, above average or average at least...)
Male romantic priority, if the man is not a faggot, should only and purely be SEX. Therefore, the man games the woman into optimizing their relationship towards getting as much SEX out of the female as possible while paying the least with "commitment".

If we analyse just these basic facts, we will understand how modern free and no commitment dating and sex would benefit the male strategy more than the female, and also how it would naturally drive women mad over time, collecting mental illnesses because their own urges, nature and society torture them as they grow up and develop. But now, how could this possibly benefit a 5/10 guy if we are aware of hypergamy?

Guys belong in 3 different categories, according to women: the sex-only chad - they don't even want commitment from that guy, hes ideally only for sex because he would have way too many very good options. It would break the womans heart. The husband or relationship guy - could be good looking and "safe" as an option, or just an average guy. Then the subhumanoid slave - commitment only with no sex. Basically a paypig lol

The ONS or FWB guy is the sex only chad. But the relationships guys (most guys) can utilize GAME to maximize sex with minimizing commitment. For a guy in a relationship, sex is a priority over which you can leave a foid. You should set, in the relationship, a rate at which you wanna fuck the foid, and if it dips below that then you cheat or leave or likewise adjust commitment. If you know how to effectively show commitment, and utilize it to get sex from multiple foids, develop a really good cheating system, you could be racking in soo many bodies as a literal IQmaxxed normie. But then, paradoxically, you wouldn't be a mere normie anymore...

Last question: yes I'm currently using this to slay and game foids myself and its working

the end

w effort, read it all good points tbf high iq take

 

[irrumator praetor]

w effort, read it all good points tbf high iq take

thnx G mirin your IQ also

only sub80 or average iq monkeys would disagree lowk, real ones know what I'm talking about

 

[irrumator praetor]

hmmm, whats your proposal/ the most optimal life path for men then? is it polyamarous relationships? i was hoping this thread was gonna go more into how the average man can ascend to a high SMV even if he wasnt dealt the best hands ngl

Thread isn't about ascension but more about agency and behavior

Yes basically just be hoemaxxed. You should be cheating 24/7 and not care if you aren't exclusively with whatever woman, since she can cheat anytime herself. The world itself is an open free market, we are all free individuals, so and so... We all do what we can according to our power and ability

you could lie about exclusivity and run the same game on multiple foids while appearing busy. They can't get jealous because you're all free autonomous individuals, and nobody owns anyone else... It will literally be like this even when you have kids with the chick. She'll be cheating too. Simply barely any reason to stay sexually faithful nowadays unless its a strictly and fully controlled mutual agreement

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

I love the sexual revolution it means I can fuck tons of women and cuck every other guy !!

(I am the exception and will defo profit of this while the 99,9999% of other men are on the receiving end)

 

[greylurker]

Thread isn't about ascension but more about agency and behavior

Yes basically just be hoemaxxed. You should be cheating 24/7 and not care if you aren't exclusively with whatever woman, since she can cheat anytime herself. The world itself is an open free market, we are all free individuals, so and so... We all do what we can according to our power and ability

you could lie about exclusivity and run the same game on multiple foids while appearing busy. They can't get jealous because you're all free autonomous individuals, and nobody owns anyone else... It will literally be like this even when you have kids with the chick. She'll be cheating too. Simply barely any reason to stay sexually faithful nowadays unless its a strictly and fully controlled mutual agreement

is every single woman a cheater?

 

[irrumator praetor]

I love the sexual revolution it means I can fuck tons of women and cuck every other guy !!

(I am the exception and will defo profit of this while the 99,9999% of other men are on the receiving end)

actually nobody nowadays gets cucked unless they explicitly have a cuck fetish and want to get cucked, which would mean consciously wanting someone else to fuck a girl we can define as your wife, whom you'd probably be exclusive with? Open relationships, for instance, aren't cucked. If you aren't married or don't have bf/gf labels, is it cucking then? Or can we define it as purely spectating 2 people having sex? Is porn cucked then?

Everyone nowadays is fucking someone that someone else is fucking. Is that cucking? If 2 people cuck each other, does it cancel out?

 

[irrumator praetor]

is every single woman a cheater?

If the possibility is always open, and they can cheat very well because when they do so, the guys they're cheating with don't require any commitment or relationship status, then should you assume good faith or bad faith, when we know the greater incentive is always towards cheating? On the other hand, what would be the reason to you limiting your own options and fun for yourself? Simply want and get more from life. You think shes gonna be waiting on you? Why should you wait on her? Now thats cucked

 

[mrdouchebag]

Sounds like complete horseshit to me.

You claim the average guy benefits from this to a significant extent, but that's simply not the case. Average men can't get laid effortlessly, unless perhaps they go for old, fat, ugly middle aged grannies or something, and at that point what is even the point of slaying? Just to stick it to the stinky hole of a woman that looks like utter dogshit? You're better off jerking off and calling it a day. For the average man to get laid with an average woman he needs to put effort and build rapport to have a chance, which comes with significant time and money investment, unless he gets lucky of course, which obviously doesn't happen often at all.

You claim that you can sleep around and then settle down and reproduce, while women accumulate a bunch of mental issues etc. in the process. Well guess what? Who do you think the average 33 year old man is pairing up with in the end? The average 33 year old woman or the average 23 year old woman? Obviously the former, so you are going to have to suffer for your wife accumulating those issues and probably have high chance of divorce and losing half your shit and your kids.

You claim that women only want Chad for sex, but not for relationship. That's straight up false. Women really desire to have Chad commit to them, that's why they bitch and whine and he pumps and dumps them. They might generally know that Chad has options and will probably cheat, but they still go for it, given that they are delusional and think it's their lucky time. They are gambling essentially for the tiny chance they hit it big.

I don't know how would you even consider this crap a win in any capacity. The average guy is feeding on scraps for most of his youth only to end up with an older, run through, mediocre looking, less fertile woman with a lot of unresolved issues, diminished pairbonding ability and fixation on some past Chad("the one that got away" theorem) that will desire him the least, and will probably cheat and divorce him at some point, taking with her a large part of his assets and his kids, while he is still paying child support and she influences his kids against him.

See in this scenario even a Chad loses in the long run. He runs into the same problem. The 33 year old Stacy he ends up with in the end is just a lesser version of her 23 year old younger self and comes attached with extra liabilities and risk for the Chad that gets with her.

 

[greylurker]

Sounds like complete horseshit to me.

You claim the average guy benefits from this to a significant extent, but that's simply not the case. Average men can't get laid effortlessly, unless perhaps they go for old, fat, ugly middle aged grannies or something, and at that point what is even the point of slaying? Just to stick it to the stinky hole of a woman that looks like utter dogshit? You're better off jerking off and calling it a day. For the average man to get laid with an average woman he needs to put effort and build rapport to have a chance, which comes with significant time and money investment, unless he gets lucky of course, which obviously doesn't happen often at all.

You claim that you can sleep around and then settle down and reproduce, while women accumulate a bunch of mental issues etc. in the process. Well guess what? Who do you think the average 33 year old man is pairing up with in the end? The average 33 year old woman or the average 23 year old woman? Obviously the former, so you are going to have to suffer for your wife accumulating those issues and probably have high chance of divorce and losing half your shit and your kids.

You claim that women only want Chad for sex, but not for relationship. That's straight up false. Women really desire to have Chad commit to them, that's why they bitch and whine and he pumps and dumps them. They might generally know that Chad has options and will probably cheat, but they still go for it, given that they are delusional and think it's their lucky time. They are gambling essentially for the tiny chance they hit it big.

I don't know how would you even consider this crap a win in any capacity. The average guy is feeding on scraps for most of his youth only to end up with an older, run through, mediocre looking, less fertile woman with a lot of unresolved issues, diminished pairbonding ability and fixation on some past Chad("the one that got away" theorem) that will desire him the least, and will probably cheat and divorce him at some point, taking with her a large part of his assets and his kids, while he is still paying child support and she influences his kids against him.

See in this scenario even a Chad loses in the long run. He runs to the same problem. The 33 year old Stacy he ends up with in the end is just a lesser version of her 23 year old younger self and comes attached with extra liabilities and risk for the Chad that gets with her.

the best solution is to find a partner when you're really young and stick with them, no one wants to date a 30 year old woman when you're 30 because they will be ran through.

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

actually nobody nowadays gets cucked unless they explicitly have a cuck fetish and want to get cucked, which would mean consciously wanting someone else to fuck a girl we can define as your wife, whom you'd probably be exclusive with? Open relationships, for instance, aren't cucked. If you aren't married or don't have bf/gf labels, is it cucking then? Or can we define it as purely spectating 2 people having sex? Is porn cucked then?

Everyone nowadays is fucking someone that someone else is fucking. Is that cucking? If 2 people cuck each other, does it cancel out?

romance is fake anyway it's all about sex and the honeymoon faze then rinse and repeat

drop some game should I flirt from the first encounter or take it slowly

 

[mangotimer]

I hate woman

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

Sounds like complete horseshit to me.

You claim the average guy benefits from this to a significant extent, but that's simply not the case. Average men can't get laid effortlessly, unless perhaps they go for old, fat, ugly middle aged grannies or something, and at that point what is even the point of slaying? Just to stick it to the stinky hole of a woman that looks like utter dogshit? You're better off jerking off and calling it a day. For the average man to get laid with an average woman he needs to put effort and build rapport to have a chance, which comes with significant time and money investment, unless he gets lucky of course, which obviously doesn't happen often at all.

You claim that you can sleep around and then settle down and reproduce, while women accumulate a bunch of mental issues etc. in the process. Well guess what? Who do you think the average 33 year old man is pairing up with in the end? The average 33 year old woman or the average 23 year old woman? Obviously the former, so you are going to have to suffer for your wife accumulating those issues and probably have high chance of divorce and losing half your shit and your kids.

You claim that women only want Chad for sex, but not for relationship. That's straight up false. Women really desire to have Chad commit to them, that's why they bitch and whine and he pumps and dumps them. They might generally know that Chad has options and will probably cheat, but they still go for it, given that they are delusional and think it's their lucky time. They are gambling essentially for the tiny chance they hit it big.

I don't know how would you even consider this crap a win in any capacity. The average guy is feeding on scraps for most of his youth only to end up with an older, run through, mediocre looking, less fertile woman with a lot of unresolved issues, diminished pairbonding ability and fixation on some past Chad("the one that got away" theorem) that will desire him the least, and will probably cheat and divorce him at some point, taking with her a large part of his assets and his kids, while he is still paying child support and she influences his kids against him.

See in this scenario even a Chad loses in the long run. He runs into the same problem. The 33 year old Stacy he ends up with in the end is just a lesser version of her 23 year old younger self and comes attached with extra liabilities and risk for the Chad that gets with her.

he made this bc he is either trolling and playing devils advocate but more likely accepting how bad it has gone and coping

 

[irrumator praetor]

Sounds like complete horseshit to me.

You claim the average guy benefits from this to a significant extent, but that's simply not the case. Average men can't get laid effortlessly, unless perhaps they go for old, fat, ugly middle aged grannies or something, and at that point what is even the point of slaying? Just to stick it to the stinky hole of a woman that looks like utter dogshit? You're better off jerking off and calling it a day. For the average man to get laid with an average woman he needs to put effort and build rapport to have a chance, which comes with significant time and money investment, unless he gets lucky of course, which obviously doesn't happen often at all.

You claim that you can sleep around and then settle down and reproduce, while women accumulate a bunch of mental issues etc. in the process. Well guess what? Who do you think the average 33 year old man is pairing up with in the end? The average 33 year old woman or the average 23 year old woman? Obviously the former, so you are going to have to suffer for your wife accumulating those issues and probably have high chance of divorce and losing half your shit and your kids.

You claim that women only want Chad for sex, but not for relationship. That's straight up false. Women really desire to have Chad commit to them, that's why they bitch and whine and he pumps and dumps them. They might generally know that Chad has options and will probably cheat, but they still go for it, given that they are delusional and think it's their lucky time. They are gambling essentially for the tiny chance they hit it big.

I don't know how would you even consider this crap a win in any capacity. The average guy is feeding on scraps for most of his youth only to end up with an older, run through, mediocre looking, less fertile woman with a lot of unresolved issues, diminished pairbonding ability and fixation on some past Chad("the one that got away" theorem) that will desire him the least, and will probably cheat and divorce him at some point, taking with her a large part of his assets and his kids, while he is still paying child support and she influences his kids against him.

See in this scenario even a Chad loses in the long run. He runs into the same problem. The 33 year old Stacy he ends up with in the end is just a lesser version of her 23 year old younger self and comes attached with extra liabilities and risk for the Chad that gets with her.

I respect that you went with the descriptive situation of society as it stands today (current reality), its just that I've previously mentioned that my argument is a plausible one, meaning that ideally people would behave in such and such way, and would produce such and such outcomes. It is a hypothetical because I base the potential of the argument on some dynamics or postulated "laws", described in the paragraph about romantic interests of the genders.

Even according to the theory of hypergamy, the guys getting MOST of the sex being the sex only chads, aren't the majority of guys getting any sex. In that regard the distribution shifts down a bit. Women, according to my model, can't all purely be operating like men when it comes to sex and relationships, meaning that they need sex within relationships most of the time. If the normie man is suitable enough to be in a relationship with women hes either a few points above in SMV or on the same level with, and in regard to relationships hypergamy would be tuned down a notch, then what I've said still stands. I've even said in my second post in this thread, that men are currently temporarily having it worse because they've forgotten all of this. Hopefully you also read the part where I've said to optimize relationships, commitment and trading it for sex to have the cheapest effort to sex ratio from a single foid, that you can afford, on a foid-to-foid basis (its foid/case specific)

They know they ideally want a relationship with chad but they're aware of the actual practicality of the situation too which means that my point still stands about their average opinion of sex only chads

yes you do end up having kids with the mentally fucked up foid. Thats partly why society is failing. I've also argued before that Chad loses in this game also because he gets a used up stacy. But the scope of modern dating and also this thread was purely about maximizing sex, making your very valid points outside of the goals of the thread. Men are still supposed to "win" this dating game, relative to women

 

[irrumator praetor]

the best solution is to find a partner when you're really young and stick with them, no one wants to date a 30 year old woman when you're 30 because they will be ran through.

idk about that one ngl because the foid needs to want that too, and she usually doesn't, and if she does, shes usually larping

 

[irrumator praetor]

he made this bc he is either trolling and playing devils advocate but more likely accepting how bad it has gone and coping

jfl sometimes I like to do that, partly its also about that too, but I'm drinking my own kool aid with this thread I'm NGL

I stand by what I wrote here

 

[irrumator praetor]

romance is fake anyway it's all about sex and the honeymoon faze then rinse and repeat

drop some game should I flirt from the first encounter or take it slowly

depends, she can signal to flirt immediately or she can take things very slowly herself, if shes interested at all

sometimes people are willing but simply not ready, you don't want to rush and make things awkward or put too much pressure

 

[irrumator praetor]

he made this bc he is either trolling and playing devils advocate but more likely accepting how bad it has gone and coping

yes actually I am coping, now I've realized

 

[_Jason_]

Trvke

 

[bavislite]

I know the title should've said "most successful men" because most people here would only agree with that (hypergamy), but towards the end of the thread I will make a strong plausible argument that modern dating can actually benefit most men, if most men play their cards perfectly right (Im talking about average looks - of course, according to the bell curve distribution, most men would not in fact play their cards "perfectly right"). Yes, that would mean it benefits YOU as opposed to having no dating market and just strict monogamy.

This is why the system of strict monogamy was actually protecting women and not men, and was designed for the benefit of women primarily (built around SIMPING and betabuxxing). Polygamy and hypergamy are designed around men winning, and the top men ofc. But today we have practical monogamy (people still end up reproducing with 1 partner they settled with) with play-hypergamy, the most male-biased system there could be (most men have a chance to reproduce while also being able to slay before settling down, foids only get mental health issues before settling down)

Especially nowadays, as an AVERAGE MAN, you've more possibilities to cheat and run the same game over and over again, rack up as many bodies as you possibly can, more than ever before, all at the expense of the mental health of confused, indoctrinated, brainwashed and still enslaved FOIDS. Once again, we gotta thank our best buddies Israel and CIA for this one, the international bankers as well. Soo based, western, neoliberal and faustian. Its a brick ceiling for them bitches. Anyway

Female romantic priorities are feelings, then sex. Feelings in the sense of her biological interests, which are securing commitment from you or getting positive commitment signals from you. Sex is secondary and comes with attraction and only accompanied with positive commitment signals. These signals need to be subconscious, but they can be conscious also. As in, you fuck then you buy uber eats. She doesn't necessarily want commitment from you, she maybe even wants the total opposite of that. But subconsciously she needs that positive investment signal from you, at least in the form of buying some cheap ass food, so she doesn't feel terrible after the sex. Women could start fucking every guy off the street cuz all of them would say yes, but they would feel terrible. They need commitment in exchange, coupled with meaningful sexual attraction (SMV, above average or average at least...)
Male romantic priority, if the man is not a faggot, should only and purely be SEX. Therefore, the man games the woman into optimizing their relationship towards getting as much SEX out of the female as possible while paying the least with "commitment".

If we analyse just these basic facts, we will understand how modern free and no commitment dating and sex would benefit the male strategy more than the female, and also how it would naturally drive women mad over time, collecting mental illnesses because their own urges, nature and society torture them as they grow up and develop. But now, how could this possibly benefit a 5/10 guy if we are aware of hypergamy?

Guys belong in 3 different categories, according to women: the sex-only chad - they don't even want commitment from that guy, hes ideally only for sex because he would have way too many very good options. It would break the womans heart. The husband or relationship guy - could be good looking and "safe" as an option, or just an average guy. Then the subhumanoid slave - commitment only with no sex. Basically a paypig lol

The ONS or FWB guy is the sex only chad. But the relationships guys (most guys) can utilize GAME to maximize sex with minimizing commitment. For a guy in a relationship, sex is a priority over which you can leave a foid. You should set, in the relationship, a rate at which you wanna fuck the foid, and if it dips below that then you cheat or leave or likewise adjust commitment. If you know how to effectively show commitment, and utilize it to get sex from multiple foids, develop a really good cheating system, you could be racking in soo many bodies as a literal IQmaxxed normie. But then, paradoxically, you wouldn't be a mere normie anymore...

Last question: yes I'm currently using this to slay and game foids myself and its working

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Mirin

 

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if women don't want you only for sex immediately then its over and you should ropemaxx

 

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Good read doesn't benefit me tho.

 

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Good read doesn't benefit me tho.

thnx G

 

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