Mog battle: Schopenhauer vs Nietzsche

[Bitterschön]

Schopenhauer:

• Life is full of suffering.
• Our wishes and needs never stop. That makes us unhappy.
• Even when we get what we want, we soon feel empty again.
• True peace comes when we stop wanting things.
• Let go of desire. Avoid pain. Be quiet. Enjoy art and kindness.

Nietzsche:

• Life is full of chaos and pain too.
• But we should not run from it. We should say YES to it all.
• Amor fati means love your fate, even the hard parts.
• The dionysian human dances with life, embraces joy and suffering.
• Create meaning through strength, passion, and art.

 

[Bitterschön]

b

 

[obscuredusk]

Nietzsche better

 

[Bitterschön]

@cute @134applesauce456 @bruhtoobrutal @PseudoMaxxer @Saint Casanova

 

[LegendaryKennen]

shouldve made it a poll

 

[Deleted member 171619]

Nietzsche is r/atheism. Schopenhauer

 

[Bitterschön]

@Seth Walsh @_MVP_ @superpsycho

 

[Bitterschön]

shouldve made it a poll

True. Added now

 

[superpsycho]

no philosophy for your face

 

[Bitterschön]

@Jonasㅤㅤ

 

[Proex]

Nietzsche was an incel so ima vote Schopenhauer

 

[Deleted member 171619]

Nietzsche was an incel so ima vote Schopenhauer

So was Schopenhauer

 

[_MVP_]

Defo schop - one of the First blackpillers on foids nature

Nietzsche is Not my Cup of Tea except the will to Power concept

 

[Bitterschön]

Bump

 

[HTNcutecel]

Nietzsche. But Schopenhauer's on women is based ash.

 

[Bitterschön]

@Eltrē

 

[paladincel_]

Easily Nietzsche. Even with the authoritarianism and amor fati failing for the same reason kant's categorical imperative fails, but even more miserably and disgracefully, he's way better than copenhauer. 99% of what copenhauer wrote is pointless. Say what you want about the boring parts of nietzsche they're more tolerable. Actual legit approach to life and no failed metaphysics.

"bitter odour of corpses which is peculiar to Schopenhauer."

 

[bruhtoobrutal]

Nietzsche

 

[paladincel_]

@BigJimsWornOutTires

 

[VV62]

Schopenhaur because he acknowledged reality as it was and did not try to wrestle it into beauty like nietzsche

 

[liberty]

Nietzsche and Schopenhauer both seem like hacks from what i've seen.

I find Spinoza's theory of the passions more compelling. Nietzsche's aphoristic style and Schopenhauer's bitterness towards Hegel are huge red flags

That being said I'd side with Schopenhauer because he taught philosophy at least, while Nietzsche was just a philologist

 

[paladincel_]

Nietzsche and Schopenhauer both seem like hacks from what i've seen.

I find Spinoza's theory of the passions more compelling. Nietzsche's aphoristic style and Schopenhauer's bitterness towards Hegel are huge red flags

That being said I'd side with Schopenhauer because he taught philosophy at least, while Nietzsche was just a philologist

Aphoristic style has its drawbacks but it's considered a plus by 99% of readers, it's what distinguishes him. How much have you read of nietzsche?

 

[liberty]

Aphoristic style has its drawbacks but it's considered a plus by 99% of readers, it's what distinguishes him.

I think its great for aesthetic purposes and entertainment. I think most people like it because its more digestible than dry expository works. BUT i don't think philosophy should be done this way - it should be rigorous and explained clearly. If one wants poetic insights, they should just read fiction.

How much have you read of nietzsche?

I read his less popular and unfinished work "Philosophy in the tragic age of the greeks" and i liked it, quite a beautiful history of presocratic thought. I thought i'd give his official works a try, but after reading a few chapters from BoT i got disillusioned with his analysis.

For me, philosophy just doesn't work when talked about this way. I somehow enjoy Spinoza's geometric analysis with axioms and theorems more than Nietzsche. And i don't mind prose, Descartes' Discourse on Method was also great IMO.

 

[PseudoMaxxer]

Schopenhauer:

• Life is full of suffering.
• Our wishes and needs never stop. That makes us unhappy.
• Even when we get what we want, we soon feel empty again.
• True peace comes when we stop wanting things.
• Let go of desire. Avoid pain. Be quiet. Enjoy art and kindness.

Nietzsche:

• Life is full of chaos and pain too.
• But we should not run from it. We should say YES to it all.
• Amor fati means love your fate, even the hard parts.
• The dionysian human dances with life, embraces joy and suffering.
• Create meaning through strength, passion, and art.

I agree with both but I thing the points that Schopenhauer made are more solid here.

Maybe letting go of desire is the real answer, even tho it’s a human thing to feel desire.

@Antipsychotics

 

[Antipsychotics]

I agree with both but I thing the points that Schopenhauer made are more solid here.

Maybe letting go of desire is the real answer, even tho it’s a human thing to feel desire.

@Antipsychotics

I relate to Schopenhauer more. The more I get, the more I want, satisfaction will always escape me.

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

tis dough stooopid