Morality without God is impossible;Debate me

[KKamikaze]

Morality is not a human invention it is discovered, not created. If morality were just opinion, then murder, slavery, or betrayal could be “right” in one culture and “wrong” in another, and no one could ever truly condemn anything. Yet every civilization across time has agreed on certain fundamentals justice, fairness, loyalty, respect for life. Why? Because morality points beyond man to something higher to God.

Atheism has no grounding for objective morality,“Be nice” or “cooperate” is not a moral law it’s survival strategy. Without God, morality collapses into preference, nothing more binding than favorite food or music,but if morality is real if good and evil are more than feelings then it requires a Lawgiver greater than man.

 

[subhuman1996]

Mirin. Good thread. These brainlesstheists r so delusional it’s crazy

 

[KKamikaze]

Is it a coincidence that every civilization in history Babylonian, Greek, Indian, African, Norse, Native all arrived at moral codes? If morality is just evolution, then why is murder condemned across cultures, while loyalty, justice, and fairness are universally praised? Evolution alone explains survival, not moral obligation. A lion kills without guilt, but a man murders with shame. Why? Because morality is not instinct it’s law written into our being, atheism cannot answer this,to say morality is “just preference” makes it no different than liking pizza. To say it’s “just cooperation” makes genocide and slavery acceptable if they benefit the group,without God, morality dies in the grave of nihilism, Atheism is not enlightenment it’s intellectual cowardice hiding behind science,just as the universe is finely tuned by design, morality is divinely ordered. Denying it is the same as spitting in God’s face and calling truth nonsense.

 

[thenext_chad]

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Is it a coincidence that every civilization in history Babylonian, Greek, Indian, African, Norse, Native all arrived at moral codes? If morality is just evolution, then why is murder condemned across cultures, while loyalty, justice, and fairness are universally praised? Evolution alone explains survival, not moral obligation. A lion kills without guilt, but a man murders with shame. Why? Because morality is not instinct it’s law written into our being, atheism cannot answer this,to say morality is “just preference” makes it no different than liking pizza. To say it’s “just cooperation” makes genocide and slavery acceptable if they benefit the group,without God, morality dies in the grave of nihilism, Atheism is not enlightenment it’s intellectual cowardice hiding behind science,just as the universe is finely tuned by design, morality is divinely ordered. Denying it is the same as spitting in God’s face and calling truth nonsense.

simply because it benifits them as example if a civilization benifits from killing others then killing other isnt immoral and if being non loyal hurt the system then its immoral

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Debate me​

You're not my boss

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

Morality is not a human invention it is discovered, not created. If morality were just opinion, then murder, slavery, or betrayal could be “right” in one culture and “wrong” in another, and no one could ever truly condemn anything. Yet every civilization across time has agreed on certain fundamentals justice, fairness, loyalty, respect for life. Why? Because morality points beyond man to something higher to God.

Atheism has no grounding for objective morality,“Be nice” or “cooperate” is not a moral law it’s survival strategy. Without God, morality collapses into preference, nothing more binding than favorite food or music,but if morality is real if good and evil are more than feelings then it requires a Lawgiver greater than man.

people confuse morality with laws that are based on our religions
or just atack groups that are "above" them like being sexist to men or wtv

 

[irrumator praetor]

dnr god is the mass imagined sovereign just like the state and morality is both subjective and objective and it all depends. What we call the prime mover is probably an entity so distant from us that it is irrelevant to us, an amoral progression of history and evolution

but ur grey so this thread isn't so bad

 

[irrumator praetor]

Morality is not a human invention it is discovered

its group logic or math

 

[irrumator praetor]

Lawgiver

google "the sovereign"