More efficient to get jaw surgery abroad?

[Anchor_Ship]

I live in the United States and was quoted on as a rough estimate that jaw surgery would cost 10k per jaw and this is without the costs for orthodontics and possible genio and MSE. I’m wondering if I can cut costs while still getting good quality work by going abroad for surgery. I’m looking into Trimax atm. Ideally I’d spend around 15k-20k before taxes and other expenses like hospital bill, airplane tickets or a place to stay. Is it cheaper to go to a different country for surgery in total with these expenses?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

20k dollars for Bimax seems very cheap for surgery in the US- those are typical EU prices, unless thats not including all the hospital fees

 

[Anchor_Ship]

20k dollars for Bimax seems very cheap for surgery in the US- those are typical EU prices, unless thats not including all the hospital fees

A person from a different forum was telling me in Turkey I could get bimax for 5-10k

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

A person from a different forum was telling me in Turkey I could get bimax for 5-10k

5k dollars would be like 4k euros- I dont think ive ever seen a qoute that low

what surgeons in the US are charging 20k for bimax? thats £15k

 

[poopmaster22]

20 sounds reasonable overseas. I don’t know who will give you quality though

 

[Anchor_Ship]

5k dollars would be like 4k euros- I dont think ive ever seen a qoute that low

what surgeons in the US are charging 20k for bimax? thats £15k

https://www.turquiesante.com/en/jaw-surgery-854 he said that this website are some of the most expensive surgeons and that I could find for even cheaper and the price says average of 9500 euros

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

https://www.turquiesante.com/en/jaw-surgery-854 he said that this website are some of the most expensive surgeons and that I could find for even cheaper and the price says average of 9500 euros

10k euros seems about right for Turkey. Wouldnt surpise me if they add on extra for genio etc.


I think average bimax price in western europe is 15-20k euros

 

[Anchor_Ship]

10k euros seems about right for Turkey. Would surpise me if they add on extra for genio etc.


I think average bimax price in western europe is 15-20k euros

It seems the costs includes most of the things I was talking about like hospital stay or food. Sounds pretty based ngl. I wonder if anyone has gotten surgery in turkey on the forum. Maybe that can be a way I can get surgery faster since I’m at like 4k, I’ll probs need 11 more and I’d be able to have Trimax in turkey

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

It seems the costs includes most of the things I was talking about like hospital stay or food. Sounds pretty based ngl. I wonder if anyone has gotten surgery in turkey on the forum. Maybe that can be a way I can get surgery faster since I’m at like 4k, I’ll probs need 11 more and I’d be able to have Trimax in turkey

bare in mind youll need to find a turkish surgeon who has an American Ortho within reasonable travelling distance of wherever you are in the US which could be challenging

Im going abroad for my bimax (well single jaw only actually), but my maxfac has a UK ortho so its pretty straightforward.

It would suprise me if those cheap turkish surgeons have contacts with american Orthos, if they dont its gonna complicate the process a fair bit

 

[Deleted member 19157]

wouldnt it cost a lot to go overseas and then also stay at a hotel anyways

 

[Anchor_Ship]

wouldnt it cost a lot to go overseas and then also stay at a hotel anyways

Apparently hospital costs are added in. Seems very based

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Apparently hospital costs are added in. Seems very based

You will need more than 6 nights in a hotel for Bimax just FYI, pretty sure itll be 14 minimum before fit to fly.

If you do go the Turkey route- which im not neccessarily against, make sure you throughouly research the surgeon beforehand. Id argue of all surgeries, this is the one where the choice of surgeon matters the most

@Gaia262 how long did you stay in italy for your bimax? Im hoping I can get this done without having to quit my job to go

 

[Anchor_Ship]

You will need more than 6 nights in a hotel for Bimax just FYI, pretty sure itll be 14 minimum before fit to fly.

If you do go the Turkey route- which im not neccessarily against, make sure you throughouly research the surgeon beforehand. Id argue of all surgeries, this is the one where the choice of surgeon matters the most

@Gaia262 how long did you stay in italy for your bimax? Im hoping I can get this done without having to quit my job to go

I'm looking to cut costs If I do get surgery not in the USA, I'm running out of time in my youth so I want to get this done Asap tbh. Idk if anyone here knows any based Turkey surgeons? I disagree with choice of surgeons tbh. It seems like youre paying a premium for just a name when other surgeons who aren't as known can still produce satisfactory results. None of these named surgeons are safe from botching people. I'm not saying some surgeons aren't better than others but I don't have some rocket science underbite case

 

[Oberyn]

I'm looking to cut costs If I do get surgery not in the USA, I'm running out of time in my youth so I want to get this done Asap tbh. Idk if anyone here knows any based Turkey surgeons? I disagree with choice of surgeons tbh. It seems like youre paying a premium for just a name when other surgeons who aren't as known can still produce satisfactory results. None of these named surgeons are safe from botching people. I'm not saying some surgeons aren't better than others but I don't have some rocket science underbite case

I will look it up for you

 

[Gaia262]

You will need more than 6 nights in a hotel for Bimax just FYI, pretty sure itll be 14 minimum before fit to fly.

If you do go the Turkey route- which im not neccessarily against, make sure you throughouly research the surgeon beforehand. Id argue of all surgeries, this is the one where the choice of surgeon matters the most

@Gaia262 how long did you stay in italy for your bimax? Im hoping I can get this done without having to quit my job to go

I stayed for 4 weeks but I had alot more than a bimax. Two weeks max is all you need.

 

[Carpediem]

I live in the United States and was quoted on as a rough estimate that jaw surgery would cost 10k per jaw and this is without the costs for orthodontics and possible genio and MSE. I’m wondering if I can cut costs while still getting good quality work by going abroad for surgery. I’m looking into Trimax atm. Ideally I’d spend around 15k-20k before taxes and other expenses like hospital bill, airplane tickets or a place to stay. Is it cheaper to go to a different country for surgery in total with these expenses?

Bimax is not a fucking nose job what you can do in every country, it's a invasive intervention that only experts should do.
There are top doctors in the USA, you should consult them first (Gunson, Kasey Li,Lacoms, Todd Hanna).
If your insurance covers the hospital bills and you pay only 20k out of pocket I would definitely stay in the US. Dont't go to any random doctor

 

[Foreverbrad]

Is it sensible to try and do this the other way around - ask local orthos what maxfacs they work with?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I stayed for 4 weeks but I had alot more than a bimax. Two weeks max is all you need.

so was that by choice that you stayed that long rather than neccessity?

Im getting BSSO + genio with ramieri (probably) and the max I can probs take off work in one go is 2 weeks, maybe 3 if I try and combine it with bank holidays and shit?

 

[Gaia262]

so was that by choice that you stayed that long rather than neccessity?

Im getting BSSO + genio with ramieri (probably) and the max I can probs take off work in one go is 2 weeks, maybe 3 if I try and combine it with bank holidays and shit?

Yeah I stayed there out of choice just incase of infection or a complication. I work remotely now so can work anywhere.

To be honest you could leave even 1 week after. But no way would you be office ready.your speech will be slurred and you will be heavily swollen.

You could take sick leave or work from home.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Yeah I stayed there out of choice just incase of infection or a complication. I work remotely now so can work anywhere.

To be honest you could leave even 1 week after. But no way would you be office ready.your speech will be slurred and you will be heavily swollen.

You could take sick leave or work from home.

Im allowed to work from home but I cant work outside the UK on my laptop cos of like security or insurance or some shit (do finance stuff) idk why tbh.

And I cant just LARP either cos the laptop literally doesnt let you on the server if you try and log on from a foreign IP address

How long before im human enough to return to office?

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Is it sensible to try and do this the other way around - ask local orthos what maxfacs they work with?

The whole point of me doing this would be to cut costs, I'm sure there are clinics that perform this for cheaper

 

[Gaia262]

Im allowed to work from home but I cant work outside the UK on my laptop cos of like security or insurance or some shit (do finance stuff) idk why tbh.

And I cant just LARP either cos the laptop literally doesnt let you on the server if you try and log on from a foreign IP address

How long before im human enough to return to office?

Spend a week there and then the rest can be done working from home.

To be honest, for speech slurring and being presentable, minimum 3 months. You will also have major surgical weightloss that you will need to regain. which will take months.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Spend a week there and then the rest can be done working from home.

To be honest, for speech slurring and being presentable, minimum 3 months. You will also have major surgical weightloss that you will need to regain. which will take months.

hmm maybe I should bloatmaxx a bit before rhe surgery - tbh I was hoping to have as few people as possile find out about this as I can but the more I learn the more it seems thats gonna be very hard

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Bimax is not a fucking nose job what you can do in every country, it's a invasive intervention that only experts should do.
There are top doctors in the USA, you should consult them first (Gunson, Kasey Li,Lacoms, Todd Hanna).
If your insurance covers the hospital bills and you pay only 20k out of pocket I would definitely stay in the US. Dont't go to any random doctor

Dude. I don't have the money to pay for someone like Gunson or Lacoms I doubt ill pay only 20k that's like best case scenario. I'm sure there are capable surgeons abroad obviously its not a nose job but that doesn't mean surgeons else where can't produce good results that's just fear mongering

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Is it sensible to try and do this the other way around - ask local orthos what maxfacs they work with?

Not every ortho does this sort of partner work and that doesn't guarantee its cheaper than anyone else

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Not every ortho does this sort of partner work and that doesn't guarantee its cheaper than anyone else

I think the point hes making is that you will need an ortho to work with your maxfac and obviously its wildly impractical to fly to Turkey every time you need your braces tightened so youll have to find a US ortho willing to work with whatever maxfac you choose whcih is gonna constrain your options quite a bit

 

[Anchor_Ship]

I think the point hes making is that you will need an ortho to work with your maxfac and obviously its wildly impractical to fly to Turkey every time you need your braces tightened so youll have to find a US ortho willing to work with whatever maxfac you choose whcih is gonna constrain your options quite a bit

Nah, he said ask orthos before asking surgeons. I doubt your average local orthodontic is going to work from a surgeon in Turkey before even picking the surgeon? Since they wouldnt be in the loop in the first place with the orthodontist. Obviously I wouldnt fly to Turkey every time that's water

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Nah, he said ask orthos before asking surgeons. I doubt your average local orthodontic is going to work from a surgeon in Turkey before even picking the surgeon? Since they wouldnt be in the loop in the first place with the orthodontist. Obviously I wouldnt fly to Turkey every time that's water

Yeah so that my point - surgeons like ramieri, alfaro, bribe etc are much more likely to work with orthos in US than a random no name in turkey

 

[Deleted member]

start doing good research on the best surgeons in turkey with good results, I’ll do the same cuz I’m a broke ass nigga

plus I’ve seen these turks produce good results

 

[Anchor_Ship]

start doing good research on the best surgeons in turkey with good results, I’ll do the same cuz I’m a broke ass nigga

plus I’ve seen these turks produce good results

Mogs
Tag me with if you find some good ones I’m money maxxing

 

[epictroll]

don't cheap out on jaw surgery and pay $5k in fucking turkey JFL that's how you get camelmaxxed

jaw surgery is a very complex procedure and a lot of it comes down to the surgeon's eye / personal opinion. surgeons opinions can vary greatly in the types of movements they want to do.

 

[Deleted member 19766]

Dude. I don't have the money to pay for someone like Gunson or Lacoms I doubt ill pay only 20k that's like best case scenario. I'm sure there are capable surgeons abroad obviously its not a nose job but that doesn't mean surgeons else where can't produce good results that's just fear mongering

USA is almost certainly not worth it for most people in need of jaw surgery imo, i've done lots of research, expensive asf and insurance will not cover much anyways so it's still the same price as a GOOD BLACKPILLED european surgeon in the end. also depending on ur plan u can get part of european surgery paid for by insurance too.

As for turkey, its interesting to look into but idk if i'd trust a non-western country with important shit like this