Most of guys saying "i will never Marriage-cuck" will get pressured into marriage if you're LUCKY (BRUTAL blackpill, its ovER)

They lose health very quickly, hence the whole "girls age faster" thing
They would lose health by getting railed by more guys they find attractive? Bro they live longer on average, and the difference in lifespan is only gonna get BRUTALLY worse with this generation. On average they might even live up to 10 years more :lul:
 
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Ok macho org user incel, those are nice goals you got there. This post doesn't endorse marrying, its just warning men of the future ahead. You would've known this if you had read the post, but you're a TIKTOKCEL
never said i'm macho

Your post is cuckold defeatist attitude. If you're getting pressured into marrying a whore you were always a beta cuckold. who's fate is to pay for a whore to whore around.

Don't include us on this betabux fatalism of yours
 
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Anyone who overplays “marriage cuckholdry” is just married to their mother without even realizing
 
You're probably right, when everyone else has left you behind in the dust it's hard to not copy them either, social exclusion is a threat in our primal brains.
 
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look at 4B movement in korea and how’s its wrecked there demographics, WE are fucked, not just me but us ALL, Korea use to spawn people like rabbits now it’s totally switched, If they succeed feminism and hypergamy will only increase officially cucking us all so yes i’m starting to agree but i must cope because i do still dream of finding a girl
4B movement is extremely niche and not a real thing
Stop being a retarded tiktokcel who believes these kpop whores

The reason for less children DOES relate to gender wars. but 4B movement is not big or relevant. It's mostly work pressure and hours + inability to buy a house
 
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Anyone who overplays “marriage cuckholdry” is just married to their mother without even realizing
You're probably right, when everyone else has left you behind in the dust it's hard to not copy them either, social exclusion is a threat in our primal brains.
Absolute cucks

JFL at this "blackpill" forum

Why are you even here then, just moneymaxx and betabuxx a 35 year old whore
 
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kids are the meta
I don't wanna bring kids to suffer in this shit world , and if i do change my mind about this having kids with a woman she'll definetly win custody over them , and you can't adopt childreb if you're single
 
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Absolute cucks

JFL at this "blackpill" forum

Why are you even here then, just moneymaxx and betabuxx a 35 year old whore
Absolute autist with black and white thinking
The Lack of experience reeks off you
 
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never said i'm macho

Your post is cuckold defeatist attitude. If you're getting pressured into marrying a whore you were always a beta cuckold. who's fate is to pay for a whore to whore around.

Don't include us on this betabux fatalism of yours
Its a BLACKPILL post, nigger

Yes the argument is that most redpillers might cave in and be the betabux cuckold

Its nice that you feel like Im including you in a post thats supposed to be a warning. If you read the tldr/conclusion, you would've known this
 
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I don't wanna bring kids to suffer in this shit world , and if i do change my mind about this having kids with a woman she'll definetly win custody over them , and you can't adopt childreb if you're single
True they would suffer if you’re their dad
 
They would lose health by getting railed by more guys they find attractive? Bro they live longer on average, and the difference in lifespan is only gonna get BRUTALLY worse with this generation. On average they might even live up to 10 years more :lul:
I can write the answer as if in a dream

I dreamed you wrote these answers, and ultimately, you wouldn't have responded after i wrote that, and that was the end of the conversation

But science doesn't explain that menstruation is the body's attempt to repair the hole

The female body is designed in such a way that it rots if it's not a virgin, and this is the punishment for sin

In the end, this world exists only through sin

That's how circular the concept is
 
4B movement is extremely niche and not a real thing
Stop being a retarded tiktokcel who believes these kpop whores

The reason for less children DOES relate to gender wars. but 4B movement is not big or relevant. It's mostly work pressure and hours + inability to buy a house
You know the funny thing is if this 4B retard shit works they'll resort to bringing indian and 3rd world countries immigrants , what route will you choose korean women ?
 
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Absolute autist with black and white thinking
The Lack of experience reeks off you
You're a cuckold

>l-lack of experience
That's you retard. You literally never seen women behave around men like me (or men better than me). I've seen it IRL and YOU are a cuckold
 
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Anyone who overplays “marriage cuckholdry” is just married to their mother without even realizing
You think Im exaggerating how cucked marriage is?
 
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I can write the answer as if in a dream

I dreamed you wrote these answers, and ultimately, you wouldn't have responded after i wrote that, and that was the end of the conversation

But science doesn't explain that menstruation is the body's attempt to repair the hole

The female body is designed in such a way that it rots if it's not a virgin, and this is the punishment for sin

In the end, this world exists only through sin

That's how circular the concept is
aand just like that you're back to trolling jfl :lul: was a good exchange anyway
 
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BTW, I fucked 6 married women so far

That's much less than personal trainers and people who get close to women do. Ask any personal trainer at the gym. they have probably fucked 40+ married women

+ Studies showing any whore with body count of 1+ is very likely to cheat. With it being near guaranteed if she has a body count of 5+ (good luck finding any women under that by the age of 18)

What a man can do? I guess cuckolds will always be cucks. For me I'll never marry. I'm in my late 20's and there's zero reason to. Parents are not pressuring me and i just tell people i'm not ready if they ask IRL.

Imagine voluntarily losing 50% of your wealth, paying alimony for a whore for life. And (probably, 10-30% chance) your kid won't even be yours. And still be forced to pay child support lol.

JFL
 
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4B movement is extremely niche and not a real thing
Stop being a retarded tiktokcel who believes these kpop whores

The reason for less children DOES relate to gender wars. but 4B movement is not big or relevant. It's mostly work pressure and hours + inability to buy a house
Another "its just economics bro" coper. Its HYPERGAMY and POLYGAMY and FEMINISM/FEMDOM thats responsible for the extinction level birthrates.
 
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BTW, I fucked 6 married women so far

That's much less than personal trainers and people who get close to women do. Ask any personal trainer at the gym. they have probably fucked 40+ married women

+ Studies showing any whore with body count of 1+ is very likely to cheat. With it being near guaranteed if she has a body count of 5+ (good luck finding any women under that by the age of 18)

What a man can do? I guess cuckolds will always be cucks. For me I'll never marry. I'm in my late 20's and there's zero reason to. Parents are not pressuring me and i just tell people i'm not ready if they ask IRL.

Imagine voluntarily losing 50% of your wealth, paying alimony for a whore for life. And (probably, 10-30% chance) your kid won't even be yours.

JFL
Great, do you plan on having kids? If so, is she ok not marrying? Scrap the planning question, did you have them yet? Would she be willing to give birth out of wedlock? Ltb/mtb/htb?
 
Previously I posted how women seek to cuck men as much as possible in relationships, especially in marriage, because they hate men and because they can, without consequence.

Now Im gonna tell you why most guys acting macho online, redpill copers saying "i will never marry bro, its a scam" "just LTR and children bro" most of them will CAVE INTO female demands of being cucked (married) just in order to have children.

1) social pressure
It won't be as easy as saying "i will never marry bro" on looksmax.org where everyone will +1 your message, when all your IRL friends are posting their marriage photos on social media, and they're all (like dominos) falling into line, setting up their (fake asf) marriages, posting (fake asf) photos, all your friend groups inviting each other as groomsmen or whatever, and you're the only one left out cuz you're redpilled. You will feel that sweat on your neck, and the lightheadedness from thinking "am I gonna get left out" etc. your monkey brain will kick in. Like a stupid goyim cattle animal, you will CONFORM.

Like a good cuck you'll spend a shitton on the wedding and get absolutely femdom BTFO'd by your MTB whore wife jfl, ALONG with all your friends. So you'll all be able to cope as divorced slaves later. Some of your friends will be better golden retriever cuck dogs than others, so their slave marriages might last longer. But the white rabbit with the clock strikes, and you'll all be barely raising your children and have beer bellies, shitty collagen and balding trying to date again JFL against gen alpha and older looksmaxxed prime chads. And those guys will be even worse simps than you, chads will be betabuxxing in the future. You won't be able to compete, broootal competition pill.

2) if you survive the social pressure coming from all angles: family, friends, social media, your own girl, AND your own brain working against you, feelings of insecurity etc. yknow the whole package, FOMO, cortisol etc. Then congratulations, besides a lower social status now you can enjoy the next factor thats gonna work against you, which will be: your girl waiting until YOU'RE 30 and then leaving you with 0 kids for another oofy doofy who may even be uglier, but is willing to marry. Lets be real, she doesn't like either of you, what shes interested in is financial domination. She already has a monopoly on custody, but she needs your soul too (feminism). Despite redpill cope, women can, with modern LOOKSMAXING (jfl) and IVF survive way past their "wall", meanwhile you're eternally behind a wall, especially if you're 30. EVERYONE will work against you if you're a man in your 30s and dating. Families and friends of EVERYONE you try to date. Even your own family and friends. No matter how good you look, and age hits men harder due to our fragile SMV and position to barter (we have no power jfl). Many times women have fucked men over like this for LESS. Your clock might run out before you successfully LTR + kids that hoe. Btw it strongly depends if shes LTB, MTB or HTB. HTB will almost always demand utmost cucking of you, MTB might not, LTB probably won't. Cuz they know their worth jfl.

Foids can definitely hold their own line against men in the market and make it their minimum for you to marry. If you don't, they can lead you on, prepare a replacement, as they replace you maybe try to humiliate you jfl (cortisol), that replacement can be any oofy doofy or subhuman, cuz it doesn't matter. Even someone on your level whos willing to kneel in order to cuck you (and himself later). Thats male unity and brotherhood on display

So tldr: it isn't that simple. You gotta know the path ahead if you're thinking of having the privilege just to not get BRUTALLY cucked by the avg modern foid. So you gotta be ready for all this, prepare backup, make plans, think ahead, setup the game where you secure having kids at least, all to not get cucked. Maybe eat popcorn as you watch all your friends get cucked. Ironically they might end up LDARing on this forum while you're still busy being a father, might is the key word. In that case I hope those people find this post, and find it funny.

:blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
If you marry the bp taught you nothing
 
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Great, do you plan on having kids? If so, is she ok not marrying? Scrap the planning question, did you have them yet? Would she be willing to give birth out of wedlock? Ltb/mtb/htb?
I do not want kids. Having kids is a biological need which is retarded, as my kids will likely die out and bloodline ends (very likely and happens to most people) or be so mixed that my blood will be wiped out in few generations. Also climate change will likely wipe out most humans anyway and standards of living are rapidly deteriorating.

It only makes sense if you're Genghis khan and impregnate 10000's of women. But even then by now he has only a small amount of his DNA still living.

If I did have kids I would not marry, and move to a state that wouldn't count me as being married if i lived with her (Heard some states do this retarded faggotry shit. Probably a woman made that law)


I only fuck women that meet my standard. That's why despite being HTN I have low body count. I'd say I fuck HMTB-HTB's only (but they could be MTB to you though). Never seen a stacy in my life. Actually I've seen one walking in my vacation in Prague but I did not talk to her.
 
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Previously I posted how women seek to cuck men as much as possible in relationships, especially in marriage, because they hate men and because they can, without consequence.

Now Im gonna tell you why most guys acting macho online, redpill copers saying "i will never marry bro, its a scam" "just LTR and children bro" most of them will CAVE INTO female demands of being cucked (married) just in order to have children.

1) social pressure
It won't be as easy as saying "i will never marry bro" on looksmax.org where everyone will +1 your message, when all your IRL friends are posting their marriage photos on social media, and they're all (like dominos) falling into line, setting up their (fake asf) marriages, posting (fake asf) photos, all your friend groups inviting each other as groomsmen or whatever, and you're the only one left out cuz you're redpilled. You will feel that sweat on your neck, and the lightheadedness from thinking "am I gonna get left out" etc. your monkey brain will kick in. Like a stupid goyim cattle animal, you will CONFORM.

Like a good cuck you'll spend a shitton on the wedding and get absolutely femdom BTFO'd by your MTB whore wife jfl, ALONG with all your friends. So you'll all be able to cope as divorced slaves later. Some of your friends will be better golden retriever cuck dogs than others, so their slave marriages might last longer. But the white rabbit with the clock strikes, and you'll all be barely raising your children and have beer bellies, shitty collagen and balding trying to date again JFL against gen alpha and older looksmaxxed prime chads. And those guys will be even worse simps than you, chads will be betabuxxing in the future. You won't be able to compete, broootal competition pill.

2) if you survive the social pressure coming from all angles: family, friends, social media, your own girl, AND your own brain working against you, feelings of insecurity etc. yknow the whole package, FOMO, cortisol etc. Then congratulations, besides a lower social status now you can enjoy the next factor thats gonna work against you, which will be: your girl waiting until YOU'RE 30 and then leaving you with 0 kids for another oofy doofy who may even be uglier, but is willing to marry. Lets be real, she doesn't like either of you, what shes interested in is financial domination. She already has a monopoly on custody, but she needs your soul too (feminism). Despite redpill cope, women can, with modern LOOKSMAXING (jfl) and IVF survive way past their "wall", meanwhile you're eternally behind a wall, especially if you're 30. EVERYONE will work against you if you're a man in your 30s and dating. Families and friends of EVERYONE you try to date. Even your own family and friends. No matter how good you look, and age hits men harder due to our fragile SMV and position to barter (we have no power jfl). Many times women have fucked men over like this for LESS. Your clock might run out before you successfully LTR + kids that hoe. Btw it strongly depends if shes LTB, MTB or HTB. HTB will almost always demand utmost cucking of you, MTB might not, LTB probably won't. Cuz they know their worth jfl.

Foids can definitely hold their own line against men in the market and make it their minimum for you to marry. If you don't, they can lead you on, prepare a replacement, as they replace you maybe try to humiliate you jfl (cortisol), that replacement can be any oofy doofy or subhuman, cuz it doesn't matter. Even someone on your level whos willing to kneel in order to cuck you (and himself later). Thats male unity and brotherhood on display

So tldr: it isn't that simple. You gotta know the path ahead if you're thinking of having the privilege just to not get BRUTALLY cucked by the avg modern foid. So you gotta be ready for all this, prepare backup, make plans, think ahead, setup the game where you secure having kids at least, all to not get cucked. Maybe eat popcorn as you watch all your friends get cucked. Ironically they might end up LDARing on this forum while you're still busy being a father, might is the key word. In that case I hope those people find this post, and find it funny.

:blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
good post but reality isn't so black and white. What you described does occur but not always. And while men are disadvantaged in the modern world, they are not crushed like this post would imply, there are a lot of factors you haven't taken into account. But it's true that there are way way fewer winners than there are losers in this game

Btw the pressure to get married is very real and it's really easy to be a macho man type of guy saying you won't marry but as you've said, most of these mend saying that will end up folding to their bitch
 
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Regardless if you believe its man made or not. The data is there and it is getting worse.

Not just heat but animals and ocean lifeforms.

Unless you believe everything is fake and all those independent people are just lying.
 
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BTW guys, even CLAVICULAR is betabuxxing his sub5 side hoe, 70k or something spent on her. The privilege of Chad is slowly starting to become merely getting married and reduced to a golden retriever dumb slave cuck. EVERYONE gets cucked in this faggot femdom society
A nigger once said "it ain't trickin if you got it". Although I do believe that it is still, in fact, tricking, it is also a form of leverage
 
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Regardless if you believe its man made or not. The data is there and it is getting worse.

Not just heat but animals and ocean lifeforms.

Unless you believe everything is fake and all those independent people are just lying.
there have been countless of climate shifts during the times of your ancestors
 
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good post but reality isn't so black and white. What you described does occur but not always. And while men are disadvantaged in the modern world, they are not crushed like this post would imply, there are a lot of factors you haven't taken into account. But it's true that there are way way fewer winners than there are losers in this game

Btw the pressure to get married is very real and it's really easy to be a macho man type of guy saying you won't marry but as you've said, most of these mend saying that will end up folding to their bitch
Why is every popular redpill influencer exactly fitting this description I've given? Why couldn't they have kids outside wedlock? Especially if they make a ton of money.

We have yet to see this plan work in practice. My argument is that there will be clash along this line, and I propose that the future might be bleaker, because we still don't have any power. The people that ltr+kids with no marriage would be the LUCKY FEW.

If you aren't ready to face this grim reality then its coping by definition
 
there have been countless of climate shifts during the times of your ancestors
It has never been this bad.

Many species are being extinct or getting endangered. Insect population is heavily down by over 70% from 30 years ago (Which is bad for the ecosystem), bees etc. microplastics shit etc. Literal fishing areas where generations of people fished there can no longer fish because of overfishing.

Our ancestors didn't have this living standard at all, nor did they do this much damage.
 
Why is every popular redpill influencer exactly fitting this description I've given? Why couldn't they have kids outside wedlock? Especially if they make a ton of money.

We have yet to see this plan work in practice. My argument is that there will be clash along this line, and I propose that the future might be bleaker, because we still don't have any power. The people that ltr+kids with no marriage would be the LUCKY FEW.

If you aren't ready to face this grim reality then its coping by definition
the way I see it, marriage is supposed to be an institution whose purpose is providing an environment to raise children. So having children outside wedlock is not ideal, especially for the children. My parents have been in a loving relationship for many decades and I wouldn't have it any other way, I reaped the biggest advantages possible from that.

The problem is that modern marriages are corrupted and there is so much extra bullshit grafted onto it that it became a twisted soul crushing thing you'd seek to avoid rather than strive towards
 
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Why is every popular redpill influencer exactly fitting this description I've given? Why couldn't they have kids outside wedlock? Especially if they make a ton of money.

We have yet to see this plan work in practice. My argument is that there will be clash along this line, and I propose that the future might be bleaker, because we still don't have any power. The people that ltr+kids with no marriage would be the LUCKY FEW.

If you aren't ready to face this grim reality then its coping by definition
They can't because the women do their whoreish ways of sweet talking the guy into marrying her. She'll likely refuse to birth a kid without marriage with few exceptions.

Usually the guys fall for it and divorce either soon follows or is inevitable all the same.
 
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the way I see it, marriage is supposed to be an institution whose purpose is providing an environment to raise children. So having children outside wedlock is not ideal, especially for the children. My parents have been in a loving relationship for many decades and I wouldn't have it any other way, I reaped the biggest advantages possible from that.

The problem is that modern marriages are corrupted and there is so much extra bullshit grafted onto it that it became a twisted soul crushing thing you'd seek to avoid rather than strive towards
The laws are old and retarded

They need to completely reshape marriage and divorce laws. It's so easy and beneficial for women to divorce rape with zero drawbacks
 
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It has never been this bad.

Many species are being extinct or getting endangered. Insect population is heavily down by over 70% from 30 years ago (Which is bad for the ecosystem), bees etc. microplastics shit etc. Literal fishing areas where generations of people fished there can no longer fish because of overfishing.

Our ancestors didn't have this living standard at all, nor did they do this much damage.
they had it much worse, their entire lands were frozen over and they had to migrate for thousands of kilometers. Even if a nuclear war happens, life will go on and human generations will pass from one to the other like leaves. Like my nigga Homer said, In winter, winds blow them down to earth, but then, when spring season comes again, the budding wood grows more. And so with men: one generation grows, another dies away.
 
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the way I see it, marriage is supposed to be an institution whose purpose is providing an environment to raise children. So having children outside wedlock is not ideal, especially for the children. My parents have been in a loving relationship for many decades and I wouldn't have it any other way, I reaped the biggest advantages possible from that.

The problem is that modern marriages are corrupted and there is so much extra bullshit grafted onto it that it became a twisted soul crushing thing you'd seek to avoid rather than strive towards
Outside wedlock might be a more stable environment atp ngl :lul:
 
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can't get cucked if you're already broke
  • the way of the low inhib mogger
 
You're a cuckold

>l-lack of experience
That's you retard. You literally never seen women behave around men like me (or men better than me). I've seen it IRL and YOU are a cuckold
Who tf do you think you are incel
Dont tell me what I have or haven’t seen i mog you ugly
 
Sounds like a indian problem not a western one. No one will give a rats ass if you sre unmarried in the west
Absolutely not true and I can tell from your posts you are a basement rotter, alot of parents want grand kids and also your normie friends will wedge you out at a certain age if you are a perpetual bachelor (not even talking about incel)
 
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look at 4B movement in korea and how’s its wrecked there demographics, WE are fucked, not just me but us ALL, Korea use to spawn people like rabbits now it’s totally switched, If they succeed feminism and hypergamy will only increase officially cucking us all so yes i’m starting to agree but i must cope because i do still dream of finding a girl
Only sub iqlets like Rehab Room think demographics will effect us in our lifetime, population pyramids for the most part are still healthy in terms of number of young woman. it wont really be an issue 40 to 50 years down the line. Also I disagree with his segment and assesment that its purely dating apps driving this, he is a trucel curry who copes that everyone is meeting online and not through socialmaxxing. Many parts of the US still have areas where mayos are marrying early and popping out kids. Maybe not in the numbers like they used to but I don't see muh demographic collapse necessarily playing out. If anything it has more to do with women's economic opportunities and just not necessarily "needing" kids. However I talk to alot of foids and they all say they want kids, and more say they want to stay at home etc. Not saying to wife up these roasties but the idea that all these women are going WGTOW and just condorotting in their goypod swiping for a dick session with Chad is pure cope imo. Yes social media and the apps drive hypergamy but its not as drastic as a shift as the doomers would like for it to be.
 
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What if i dont wanna have kids ? It's such a burden

Only sub iqlets like Rehab Room think demographics will effect us in our lifetime, population pyramids for the most part are still healthy in terms of number of young woman. it wont really be an issue 40 to 50 years down the line. Also I disagree with his segment and assesment that it’s purely dating apps driving this, he is a trucel curry who copes that everyone is meeting online and not through socialmaxxing. Many parts of the US still have areas where mayos are marrying early and popping out kids. Maybe not in the numbers like they used to but I don't see muh demographic collapse necessarily playing out. If anything it has more to do with women's economic opportunities and just not necessarily "needing" kids. However I talk to alot of foids and they all say they want kids, and more say they want to stay at home etc. Not saying to wife up these roasties but the idea that all these women are going WGTOW and just condorotting in their goypod swiping for a dick session with Chad is pure cope imo. Yes social media and the apps drive hypergamy but its not as drastic as a shift as the doomers would like for it to be.
Do you think there’s still hope then? and nice response you buried me and the other guy
 
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If they live in a system where, by the sexual market they don't lose value by getting railed, and they get to have a shitton of sex in which they're egos are increased or otherwise, they fuck who they want when they want literally, they themselves gain in value from that system, while men lose out in comparison
I think its never been easier to gain access to hot young foids through money tbh, pros or semi pros. Ironically most looksmaxxers just fall into the gynocentric paradigm by wanting to validate their ego through slaying after softmaxxing or surgeris (not a bad thing but pointing this out). Also I said in my other post foids don't have unlimited supply to chads at most they are punching a point above, its all within their relative looks level. But yes the system is cucked I agree not shilling for it
 
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Depends what race you are, not being racist but if you like indian or chinese then yes i get that but if your white then that’s not a excuse

Do you think there’s still hope then? and nice response you buried me and the other guy
Hope for what? If you want to pop out a few kids at some point then you have hope, but you will most likely be in a cucked arrangement no matter how much you looksmax or run heckin game on your wife. But thats not a bad thing, I think most guys will be better off this way tbh.
 
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Previously I posted how women seek to cuck men as much as possible in relationships, especially in marriage, because they hate men and because they can, without consequence.

Now Im gonna tell you why most guys acting macho online, redpill copers saying "i will never marry bro, its a scam" "just LTR and children bro" most of them will CAVE INTO female demands of being cucked (married) just in order to have children.

1) social pressure
It won't be as easy as saying "i will never marry bro" on looksmax.org where everyone will +1 your message, when all your IRL friends are posting their marriage photos on social media, and they're all (like dominos) falling into line, setting up their (fake asf) marriages, posting (fake asf) photos, all your friend groups inviting each other as groomsmen or whatever, and you're the only one left out cuz you're redpilled. You will feel that sweat on your neck, and the lightheadedness from thinking "am I gonna get left out" etc. your monkey brain will kick in. Like a stupid goyim cattle animal, you will CONFORM.

Like a good cuck you'll spend a shitton on the wedding and get absolutely femdom BTFO'd by your MTB whore wife jfl, ALONG with all your friends. So you'll all be able to cope as divorced slaves later. Some of your friends will be better golden retriever cuck dogs than others, so their slave marriages might last longer. But the white rabbit with the clock strikes, and you'll all be barely raising your children and have beer bellies, shitty collagen and balding trying to date again JFL against gen alpha and older looksmaxxed prime chads. And those guys will be even worse simps than you, chads will be betabuxxing in the future. You won't be able to compete, broootal competition pill.

2) if you survive the social pressure coming from all angles: family, friends, social media, your own girl, AND your own brain working against you, feelings of insecurity etc. yknow the whole package, FOMO, cortisol etc. Then congratulations, besides a lower social status now you can enjoy the next factor thats gonna work against you, which will be: your girl waiting until YOU'RE 30 and then leaving you with 0 kids for another oofy doofy who may even be uglier, but is willing to marry. Lets be real, she doesn't like either of you, what shes interested in is financial domination. She already has a monopoly on custody, but she needs your soul too (feminism). Despite redpill cope, women can, with modern LOOKSMAXING (jfl) and IVF survive way past their "wall", meanwhile you're eternally behind a wall, especially if you're 30. EVERYONE will work against you if you're a man in your 30s and dating. Families and friends of EVERYONE you try to date. Even your own family and friends. No matter how good you look, and age hits men harder due to our fragile SMV and position to barter (we have no power jfl). Many times women have fucked men over like this for LESS. Your clock might run out before you successfully LTR + kids that hoe. Btw it strongly depends if shes LTB, MTB or HTB. HTB will almost always demand utmost cucking of you, MTB might not, LTB probably won't. Cuz they know their worth jfl.

Foids can definitely hold their own line against men in the market and make it their minimum for you to marry. If you don't, they can lead you on, prepare a replacement, as they replace you maybe try to humiliate you jfl (cortisol), that replacement can be any oofy doofy or subhuman, cuz it doesn't matter. Even someone on your level whos willing to kneel in order to cuck you (and himself later). Thats male unity and brotherhood on display

So tldr: it isn't that simple. You gotta know the path ahead if you're thinking of having the privilege just to not get BRUTALLY cucked by the avg modern foid. So you gotta be ready for all this, prepare backup, make plans, think ahead, setup the game where you secure having kids at least, all to not get cucked. Maybe eat popcorn as you watch all your friends get cucked. Ironically they might end up LDARing on this forum while you're still busy being a father, might is the key word. In that case I hope those people find this post, and find it funny.

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True, we all say we want pure attraction and will never betabuxx but it never began for us so one day we will just accept being a betabuxx and do it for the sake of getting married ( Especially all the ethnics and estern europeans from here)
 
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Wake up, eat, work, sleep, reproduce and die
 
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True, we all say we want pure attraction and will never betabuxx but it never began for us so one day we will just accept being a betabuxx and do it for the sake of getting married ( Especially all the ethnics and estern europeans from here)
* having kids
 
I talk to alot of foids and they all say they want kids, and more say they want to stay at home etc.
probably lying because they saw a tiktok

otherwise these should be the statistical minority
If anything it has more to do with women's economic opportunities and just not necessarily "needing" kids.
no its hypergamy/polygamy

Do you think there’s still hope then? and nice response you buried me and the other guy
Technically he said things aren't too bad but the trend is all the same and the statistics are all the same working against most men. There isn't gonna be a collapse tomorrow but there will be one none the less.
 
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Absolutely not true and I can tell from your posts you are a basement rotter, alot of parents want grand kids and also your normie friends will wedge you out at a certain age if you are a perpetual bachelor (not even talking about incel)
Are you actually retarded ? 60% of guys are single at 30 in sweden. Most of my friends are a single as one can be and same with people i knew slightly back in the day. Nowadays its more rare to being able to marry then it is to be a bachelor. Sure if you are high class you might be shamed by your rich parents. Maybe its better in other western countries. But being a bachelor is not a problem.

You must be some indian curry who gets married to your sister or something
 
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Are you actually retarded ? 60% of guys are single at 30 in sweden. Most of my friends are a single as one can be and same with people i knew slightly back in the day. Nowadays its more rare to being able to marry then it is to be a bachelor. Sure if you are high class you might be shamed by your rich parents. Maybe its better in other western countries. But being a bachelor is not a problem.

You must be some indian curry who gets married to your sister or something
Maybe it is like that in Sweden but it still sounds like cope. Especially for the 30+ millenials, the ones in my area are mostly marrying off in oofy doofy style relationships (US). Most normies still have a normal life trajectory.
 
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Maybe it is like that in Sweden but it still sounds like cope. Especially for the 30+ millenials, the ones in my area are mostly marrying off in oofy doofy style relationships (US). Most normies still have a normal life trajectory.
US is very diffrent from sweden as many places is still religious and if you live in a middle class area or higher you are kinda well off. In sweden no religion exsist, and women have even more freedom and feminist is a lot bigger. And all the wealth is spread out thru socialistic taxes. The more well of more men is the more bachelors it will be
 
US is very diffrent from sweden as many places is still religious and if you live in a middle class area or higher you are kinda well off. In sweden no religion exsist, and women have even more freedom and feminist is a lot bigger. And all the wealth is spread out thru socialistic taxes. The more well of more men is the more bachelors it will be
True but my area is far from religious and in a blue state, the people I am describing are redditor tier soyjacks or just MTNs with their looksmatch. Decent amount of oofy doofys too, I think for many PSLers the thought they could have ascended with their looksmatch if they were born into the archtype of the oofy doofy is more brutal than lookism. I know plenty of those types who married low notch/virgin foids who are kinda weird.
 
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