Most optimal cycle?

[bigrochey]

Just turned 18, 82kg at 6’1. Considering my first cycle of 300mg test c per week ( 2 150mg injections every 3 days), 2IU’s GH every night and 10mg anavar. Will have AI on hand but will not touch unless i need to. images below of my current physique.

 

[zenserenity]

Just turned 18, 82kg at 6’1. Considering my first cycle of 300mg test c per week ( 2 150mg injections every 3 days), 2IU’s GH every night and 10mg anavar. Will have AI on hand but will not touch unless i need to. images below of my current physique.
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lmao your physique is fine but its up to you

 

[bigrochey]

lmao your physique is fine but its up to you

is it a good cycle?

 

[true ænglo]

rad 140 or low dose tren

 

[bigrochey]

rad 140 or low dose tren

do you have shit for brains

 

[true ænglo]

do you have shit for brains

nah i have piss for brains

 

[Mr. Ali]

is it a good cycle?

Timing, goal? If you're planning to do your first cycle, at least 12 weeks, ideally >16 for substantial results, which you can get, due to a top tier baseline.
2 i.u GH is cope + waste of money. That's what grannies in nursing homes should take for better sleep)

Never consider less than 4 i.u GH for looks/performance purposes.

 

[bigrochey]

nah i have piss for brains

fucken shows

 

[true ænglo]

fucken shows

nice spelling

 

[bigrochey]

Timing, goal? If you're planning to do your first cycle, at least 12 weeks, ideally >16 for substantial results, which you can get, due to a top tier baseline.
2 i.u GH is cope + waste of money. That's what grannies in nursing homes should take for better sleep)

Never consider less than 4 i.u GH for looks/performance purposes.

Timing, goal? If you're planning to do your first cycle, at least 12 weeks, ideally >16 for substantial results, which you can get, due to a top tier baseline.
2 i.u GH is cope + waste of money. That's what grannies in nursing homes should take for better sleep)

Never consider less than 4 i.u GH for looks/performance purposes.

Timing, goal? If you're planning to do your first cycle, at least 12 weeks, ideally >16 for substantial results, which you can get, due to a top tier baseline.
2 i.u GH is cope + waste of money. That's what grannies in nursing homes should take for better sleep)

Never consider less than 4 i.u GH for looks/performance purposes.

thank you

Timing, goal? If you're planning to do your first cycle, at least 12 weeks, ideally >16 for substantial results, which you can get, due to a top tier baseline.
2 i.u GH is cope + waste of money. That's what grannies in nursing homes should take for better sleep)

Never consider less than 4 i.u GH for looks/performance purposes.

 

[bigrochey]

Timing, goal? If you're planning to do your first cycle, at least 12 weeks, ideally >16 for substantial results, which you can get, due to a top tier baseline.
2 i.u GH is cope + waste of money. That's what grannies in nursing homes should take for better sleep)

Never consider less than 4 i.u GH for looks/performance purposes.

above 16 weeks? i was planning to run for like 14 weeks. Will do 4iu’s. Looking to put on like 15-20kg.

 

[Mr. Ali]

above 16 weeks? i was planning to run for like 14 weeks. Will do 4iu’s. Looking to put on like 15-20kg.

14 weeks is fine, but there is no way you can gain 15-20kg of lean tissue, even if you blast twice as much and for 2× longer. Gear is not magic my dude. 20kg of muscle on this frame is borderline pro level men's physique athlete.

Plus, what's the reason you want to gain so much muscle. You're currently 13-14% body fat. If I were you I would strive for 90kg 9-10% and maintain there. At your height that's the peak physique.

 

[LGG]

Just turned 18, 82kg at 6’1. Considering my first cycle of 300mg test c per week ( 2 150mg injections every 3 days), 2IU’s GH every night and 10mg anavar. Will have AI on hand but will not touch unless i need to. images below of my current physique.
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good cycle mayb raise gh if u can afford

 

[bigrochey]

14 weeks is fine, but there is no way you can gain 15-20kg of lean tissue, even if you blast twice as much and for 2× longer. Gear is not magic my dude. 20kg of muscle on this frame is borderline pro level men's physique athlete.

Plus, what's the reason you want to gain so much muscle. You're currently 13-14% body fat. If I were you I would strive for 90kg 9-10% and maintain there. At your height that's the peak physique

could be the move. Maybe 15-20kg is unrealistic. anyways I wanna js look like a sick cvnt. is 8-10kg lean tissue a reasonable goal?

 

[Mr. Ali]

could be the move. Maybe 15-20kg is unrealistic. anyways I wanna js look like a sick cvnt. is 8-10kg lean tissue a reasonable goal?

I'm gonna be honest. 8kg of LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE in 16 weeks is top 5% physique genetics. HHTN in BP terms)

But you have those genetics, so theoretically 8kg (not 10) is possibe, if your training and nutrition is on point, but still very unlikely.

Plus, after you PCT best case scenario, you keep 70% of the gains.

So let's say you gain 30lbs in 16 weeks, 20 if which is muscle, the rest is intracellular fluid and minimal body fat.
A good and realistic goal post PCT would be to keep 18-20 lbs.

 

[sivsiii]

Just turned 18, 82kg at 6’1. Considering my first cycle of 300mg test c per week ( 2 150mg injections every 3 days), 2IU’s GH every night and 10mg anavar. Will have AI on hand but will not touch unless i need to. images below of my current physique.
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2ius of hgh is a waste of your money and u will produce the same amount of gh as ur natural gh production.

 

[bigrochey]

I'm gonna be honest. 8kg of LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE in 16 weeks is top 5% physique genetics. HHTN in BP terms)

But you have those genetics, so theoretically 8kg (not 10) is possibe, if your training and nutrition is on point, but still very unlikely.

Plus, after you PCT best case scenario, you keep 70% of the gains.

So let's say you gain 30lbs in 16 weeks, 20 if which is muscle, the rest is intracellular fluid and minimal body fat.
A good and realistic goal post PCT would be to keep 18-20 lbs.

absolutely. Would you recommend HCG or enclomiphene as a good PCT? i’ve heard good from both

 

[Mr. Ali]

absolutely. Would you recommend HCG or enclomiphene as a good PCT? i’ve heard good from both

You don't do HCG as a PCT protocol. It should be taken DURING the cycle.

HCG is basically synthetic LH/FSH.

When you take exogenous testosterone/its derivatives, your body sends a signal to stop LH/FSH production, so your testicles stay cut off/inactive, hence risk of longer/difficult recovery and testicular atrophy. But this is more relevant to long term use. In your case is pretty safe. By taking HCG during the cycle from week 5-6 till the end (500 units 2-3x week) you're keeping your testicles active and preventing atrophy.

Now what enclomiphene does, is stimulates your OWN body to produce LH/FSH, which subsequently stimulates the testes and your body slowly starts producing test again. Enclo should be started two weeks AFTER your last test/anabolic injection/intake.

 

[bigrochey]

You don't do HCG as a PCT protocol. It should be taken DURING the cycle.

HCG is basically synthetic LH/FSH.

When you take exogenous testosterone/its derivatives, your body sends a signal to stop LH/FSH production, so your testicles stay cut off/inactive, hence risk of longer/difficult recovery and testicular atrophy. But this is more relevant to long term use. In your case is pretty safe. By taking HCG during the cycle from week 5-6 till the end (500 units 2-3x week) you're keeping your testicles active and preventing atrophy.

Now what enclomiphene does, is stimulates your OWN body to produce LH/FSH, which subsequently stimulates the testes and your body slowly starts producing test again. Enclo should be started two weeks AFTER your last test/anabolic injection/intake.

ahh thank you so much for clarification. I thought you took HCG after, and the HCG and enclo did the same thing. Appreciate it.

 

[Mr. Ali]

ahh thank you so much for clarification. I thought you took HCG after, and the HCG and enclo did the same thing. Appreciate it.

No problem dude! If any questions arise, you can DM me.