Most people are not recessed

[Birdcell]

I mean , humans are not supposed to have bridcel profiles , most people I've encountered had normal amount of growth , normal=no recession=good in PSL
It's probably the environment that changed our jaws

 

[ropemax]

you know that the word "recessed" doesn't automatically imply that someone is a bird, right? all people are recessed to varying degrees.

 

[Birdcell]

you know that the word "recessed" doesn't automatically imply that someone is a bird, right? all people are recessed to varying degrees.

What is then the standart of "not recessed" , really like , when can you with certainty say that someone is recessed , I think It's not clear tbh

 

[Pendejo]

All people are recessed.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

then explain the paintings and sculptures where people have visible underbits or recessed chins

 

[ropemax]

What is then the standart of "not recessed" , really like , when can you with certainty say that someone is recessed , I think It's not clear tbh

you can tell that someone is recessed by looking at their face lol. How severe it is exactly you can see on a CBCT scan.

 

[MostGLSlayer]

Most normies are bloated and lack forward growth but not necessarily recessed. Average people have average forward growth.

 

[Birdcell]

All people are recessed.

Wdym , surely not all are recessed

 

[Gargantuan]

Most people are downward grown, though

 

[Birdcell]

you can tell that someone is recessed by looking at their face lol. How severe it is exactly you can see on a CBCT scan.

So someone like Lundgren is recessed too ?

 

[Birdcell]

Most people are downward grown, though

Environment probably

 

[Birdcell]

then explain the paintings and sculptures where people have visible underbits or recessed chins

Which ones ? Forget paintings , the real skulls from ancient times show use that humans had bigger jaws with bigger palate

 

[Deleted member 17765]

agreed


till you mentioned environment


but yea.. most people have jaw, "bones", "forward growth" and so on

 

[Birdcell]

agreed


till you mentioned environment


but yea.. most people have jaw, "bones", "forward growth" and so on

Why don't you believe that mouthbreading can influence it ?.

 

[Deleted member 15748]

depends. if by recessed you mean to the point where it actually fucks you up, as in, breathing issues, jaw strength issues, whtatever else it causes. Most people are not that. But most people do not have optimal forward growth, hence why it is so obvious when people do

 

[ropemax]

So someone like Lundgren is recessed too ?

yes, i think he has infraorbital recession

 

[Birdcell]

depends. if by recessed you mean to the point where it actually fucks you up, as in, breathing issues, jaw strength issues, whtatever else it causes. Most people are not that. But most people do not have optimal forward growth, hence why it is so obvious when people do

We need to define "optimal.growth" , I mean should chin protrude past lower lip ?
How we differentiate jaw recession vs chin recession , and so on

 

[Pendejo]

So someone like Lundgren is recessed too ?

He has class 3 profile.

 

[Birdcell]

He has class 3 profile.

Maybe because of very long mandible the maxilla appears lacking

 

[Deleted member 14848]

We need to define "optimal.growth" , I mean should chin protrude past lower lip ?
How we differentiate jaw recession vs chin recession , and so on

that has to do with phenotype

If most people aren't recessed then why do 90% have crowded teeth?
Why can almost nobody only breathe through the nose while running?
Why were people 10,000 years ago much more forward grown?

 

[Birdcell]

that has to do with phenotype

If most people aren't recessed then why do 90% have crowded teeth?
Why can almost nobody only breathe through the nose while running?
Why were people 10,000 years ago much more forward grown?

You mean recessed people have crowded teeth ?
I mean , maybe it's the main reason but not everytime
For e.g Ramirez had crowded teet or I have 4 crowded lower front teeth and my jaw isn't small/recessed
There should be other reason also

 

[Birdcell]

I just don't understand why most people believe here that's only gentetics which decides proper growth , there also have been studies from top universities claiming that environment plays the biggest role

 

[Clark69]

Nah. There are a lot of bones in one's face, the average person definitely is recessed in some areas of their face like the zygomatic bones, orbital vector, brow ridge, maxilla, chin .etc

Even if they do have some growth, it's likely that it grew downwards like their mandible

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

I'm a recessed dog

 

[Birdcell]

Nah. There are a lot of bones in one's face, the average person definitely is recessed in some areas of their face like the zygomatic bones, orbital vector, brow ridge, maxilla, chin .etc

Even if they do have some growth, it's likely that it grew downwards like their mandible

Why doesn't PSL have a standard for diffentiating recessed vs normal , most likely because the absolute value of one bone has to be set in comparison to the other values of the skull , and there's just to many variations , I mean some 6'6 250 lbs Birdcell will have the same bone ammount of jaw as some forward gronw manlet

 

[Birdcell]

I'm a recessed dog

Hast du seitenprofil photo ?

 

[Deleted member 3679]

Nah. There are a lot of bones in one's face, the average person definitely is recessed in some areas of their face like the zygomatic bones, orbital vector, brow ridge, maxilla, chin .etc

Even if they do have some growth, it's likely that it grew downwards like their mandible

This is correct, if if everyone had optimal bones a lot more people would be attractive and the prevalence of sleep apnea wouldn't be as high.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Hast du seitenprofil photo ?

100€

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

This is correct, if if everyone had optimal bones a lot more people would be attractive and the prevalence of sleep apnea wouldn't be as high.

the thing is also that if you're not recessed to the point of almost suffocating every night then you won't even get shit covered by insurance. you'd have to be legit abomination tier. plus the surgeons that you might be able to afford are mostly bluepilled cucks. it's brutal.

 

[Birdcell]

the thing is also that if you're not recessed to the point of almost suffocating every night then you won't even get shit covered by insurance. you'd have to be legit abomination tier. plus the surgeons that you might be able to afford are mostly bluepilled cucks. it's brutal.

You can move your jaws with pulling with your fingers , but before you have to make the jaw weak , by bonesmashing for e.g and then when you have fractures you just pull , and that everyday , in 1 there will be results. This is the newest Bonemaxxing theory in PSL , not even kidding

 

[Deleted member 14848]

You mean recessed people have crowded teeth ?

Yes but you can have somewhat straigth teeth and still be recessed

I mean , maybe it's the main reason but not everytime

no show me a natural animal with crowded teeth

For e.g Ramirez had crowded teet or I have 4

his were rotten not crowded

crowded lower front teeth and my jaw isn't small/recessed

you're probably just not very recessed,
if your lower teeth are crowded your jaws are at least laterally recessed

There should be other reason also

For crowded teeth?

I just don't understand why most people believe here that's only gentetics which decides proper growth , there also have been studies from top universities claiming that environment plays the biggest role

Stimmt

 

[Birdcell]

Yes but you can have somewhat straigth teeth and still be recessed

no show me a natural animal with crowded teeth

his were rotten not crowded

you're probably just not very recessed,
if your lower teeth are crowded your jaws are at least laterally recessed

For crowded teeth?

Stimmt

Wie ist das seitlich oder vorderlich zurückgedrängt ? Ich habe mehr als genug Platz für die Zähne , vielleicht habe ich große Zähne
Das einzige was bei mir relativ schwach ist , ist das kürze Kinn , aber das hat ja keinen Einfluss auf den Raum für die Zähne

 

[Birdcell]

Yes but you can have somewhat straigth teeth and still be recessed

no show me a natural animal with crowded teeth

his were rotten not crowded

you're probably just not very recessed,
if your lower teeth are crowded your jaws are at least laterally recessed

For crowded teeth?

Stimmt

They also were crowded

 

[Deleted member 14848]

Wie ist das seitlich oder vorderlich zurückgedrängt ? Ich habe mehr als genug Platz für die Zähne , vielleicht habe ich große Zähne
Das einzige was bei mir relativ schwach ist , ist das kürze Kinn , aber das hat ja keinen Einfluss auf den Raum für die Zähne

seitlich siehts ziemlich gut aus, vorne ist ziemlich abgesehen von paranasal, aber selbst das ist nicht schlecht.
Hast du ein Bild von deinen Zähne u. Gaumen, dann könnte ich das besser beurteilen
Gesicht ist allerdings ziemlich kurz vor allem unten und der Schädel ziemlich hoch und kurz, aber gute eye area

They also were crowded
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I think he already had implants on the left and the rigth pic is to shitty to really see that.

 

[Birdcell]

seitlich siehts ziemlich gut aus, vorne ist ziemlich abgesehen von paranasal, aber selbst das ist nicht schlecht.
Hast du ein Bild von deinen Zähne u. Gaumen, dann könnte ich das besser beurteilen
Gesicht ist allerdings ziemlich kurz vor allem unten und der Schädel ziemlich hoch und kurz, aber gute eye area

I think he already had implants on the left and the rigth pic is to shitty to really see that.

I PMd you bro