Most people UNDERESTIMATE average east asian IQ. Mean intelligence of 4 858 chinese six-year-olds was 116.

[Magnum Opus]

Those are the people I would've needed in my school environment as friends, unfortunately 95% are NT drug abusers.

 

[sibience]

Because the Nobel prize is discriminatory against Asians and really just non whites in general. The best thing you can do is create you’re own prizes

But that was my point.... that jewish people are able to determine who gets the nobel prize, and then because they also control global media, they are able to constantly frame the prize as the most prestigious award in the world.

There are prizes given out in China from the government and they are much more meritocratic than the nobel prize, but of course the world doesn't recognize them at all because the global media is mainly controlled by jewish people.

Priceless image.

"I have control over my thoughts and actions, although I may not have control over other people. But at least they aren't being controlled." -non jewpilled cuck

 

[thecel]

if east asians are really so smart

then why do

whites have better countries in every measurable aspect

whites earn more money

whites produce the most innovations

whites are way ahead in technology and had to spoonfeed asians to get their current technology

whites produce like 98% of nobel prizes and east asians have so little despite whites being only a tiny % of the world

book smart vs street smart theory

 

[thecel]

You’re coping hard, if what you’re saying is right then why aren’t the iqs of Asian adults 116?

Because they get brain damage from childhood bullying and teenage inceldom.

 

[Shycel]

But the problem is that very young children aren't really influenced by environment. You can't teach a 5 year old if they don't have the cognition for it. Cognitive ability at a young age is very little about environment and mostly about genetics, that is why early age is used to control for many factors.

Are the IQs for asian adults around 115 (1 SD above mean)? I think it is. Global mathematics and programming competitions are mostly just asians competing against each other. If asians were only 5 points higher, there wouldn't be much difference in bell curve distribution, and there would be much more whites in these competitions.

But if you compare averages against asians and whites in white countries, I still think asian adults have 115 on average:

This looks like a much bigger difference than 5 IQ points. Although I never took this test I'm not in the United States of America. But I think every 18 adult there takes it so it is a good sample for averages.

There is a strong correlation between SAT scores and IQ but it'sobviously not 1 to 1. You can study for the SAT and Asians works so much harder than Whites, which explains why the gap in the SAT scores is much larger than the adult IQ gap would suggest. I grew up around Asians and many of them literally get beaten by their parents if they perform badly in school. I knew 11 year old Asian kids that would study for hours after school everyday. Also, I'm not American either, but SAT is only taken by people who want to go to university. It's not taken by all 18 year olds.

It is interesting though that Asians have much higher IQs as children. Wilson effect is the only thing I can come up with. Asians at all stages of life are in a more academically focused environment than their White counterparts, but this difference is going to have much more of an impact on IQ in children than in adults because of the Wilson effect (genetic heritability of IQ increases as you get older). Just because they're 6 year olds, doesn't mean the environment isn't going to influence them. That's the stage where kids have already began schooling, which I imagine is going to be much more rigorous in Hong Kong than in the West.

 

[Shycel]

You know there are groups which have iqs a standard deviation above whites? Jews and Indian Americans.

Jewish propaganda

 

[hirochan]

why do people doubt this. The parents pushes their kids to marry STEM field autists unlike in the west where they allow their daughter to waste her youth and end up burning coal with a goblin as the byproduct

 

[thecel]

why do people doubt this. The parents pushes their kids to marry STEM field autists unlike in the west where they allow their daughter to waste her youth and end up burning coal with a goblin as the byproduct

Nerdyouth is the biggest wasted youth. Westmaxed daughters are the people wasting their youths the least. The more you party and have sex, the less youth you waste.

 

[Deleted member 27511]

Because they get brain damage from childhood bullying and teenage inceldom.

Brutal

 

[Crusile]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

"g-factor"/IQ doesnt exist, and genetic IQ test taking ability doesnt exist.

Dont Care about the rest but it's the exact opposite
Read about Wilson effect

The Wilson effect is false/made up. Identical twins copy each others behavior more and more as they get older

IQ changes greatly during puberty. It can increase or decrease by 30 points.
Just like height, your IQ is a matter of genetic expression. You can't make an accurate estimate of one's actual height before they enter puberty, you can only make guesses.

you can predict height @40% with genetics, unlike IQ. IQ is zero percent "genetic expression" and is stable through puberty but sinceIQ isnt innate, it can change any amount of "points" throughout someones life.

If jews and Indian Americans are higher IQ than asians, that would go against reality.

If Jews actually have 1 standard deviation bell curve distribution above whites and east asians on average have 105, then you would barely see any asians in mathematics, science, and programming contests and you would see mostly jews in them with maybe the rare asian.

because G is a false variable that doesnt measure intelligence. You can test asian people, they wont have mean "115 iq" unlike with jews.

There is a strong correlation between SAT scores and IQ but it'sobviously not 1 to 1. You can study for the SAT and Asians works so much harder than Whites, which explains why the gap in the SAT scores is much larger than the adult IQ gap would suggest. I grew up around Asians and many of them literally get beaten by their parents if they perform badly in school. I knew 11 year old Asian kids that would study for hours after school everyday. Also, I'm not American either, but SAT is only taken by people who want to go to university. It's not taken by all 18 year olds.

It is interesting though that Asians have much higher IQs as children. Wilson effect is the only thing I can come up with. Asians at all stages of life are in a more academically focused environment than their White counterparts, but this difference is going to have much more of an impact on IQ in children than in adults because of the Wilson effect (genetic heritability of IQ increases as you get older). Just because they're 6 year olds, doesn't mean the environment isn't going to influence them. That's the stage where kids have already began schooling, which I imagine is going to be much more rigorous in Hong Kong than in the West.

The implication of that correlation is false and it doesnt even linearly correlate. G is a false variable that doesnt exist, there is no explaining to do on "IQ differences" lmfao

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289608000603 SAT/ACT predicts college GPA after removing the false variable of g

 

[Skywalker]

CCP propaganda

this;
OP nobody cares about asians lol

 

[Skywalker]

jews are much smarter than asians and its not even close

 

[Deleted member 24781]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

Wrong, the average east asian IQ is NOT over 1 standard deviation above the white mean. You have compared China's capital city to the average of many white countries..

'Hamburg residents have the highest IQ in any city comparison.

A nationwide IQ test among 4,000,000 Germans delivers the result:

In no other German city are the people as smart as in Hamburg. The average IQ there is 113, followed by Karlsruhe with 112 and Tübingen with 111.'

 

[Deleted member 24781]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

I bet your IQ is 105 tops. Remember your place.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

It's literally the exact opposite. IQ heritability increases with age, from about 0.2 to 0.8. Children's brains are more plastic. When you get older and your brain converges genetically to its true potential, that's when IQ tests have much more predictive validity.

 

[sibience]

It's literally the exact opposite. IQ heritability increases with age, from about 0.2 to 0.8. Children's brains are more plastic. When you get older and your brain converges genetically to its true potential, that's when IQ tests have much more predictive validity.

The post is to show biological (race) differences due to genetics, not heritability (also genetics).

 

[Skywalker]

"g-factor"/IQ doesnt exist, and genetic IQ test taking ability doesnt exist.

The Wilson effect is false/made up. Identical twins copy each others behavior more and more as they get older

you can predict height @40% with genetics, unlike IQ. IQ is zero percent "genetic expression" and is stable through puberty but sinceIQ isnt innate, it can change any amount of "points" throughout someones life.
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because G is a false variable that doesnt measure intelligence. You can test asian people, they wont have mean "115 iq" unlike with jews.

The implication of that correlation is false and it doesnt even linearly correlate. G is a false variable that doesnt exist, there is no explaining to do on "IQ differences" lmfao

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289608000603 SAT/ACT predicts college GPA after removing the false variable of g

you are jewish, right?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

I trust Japans scores they are the best of the East Asians. Around 106 on average though. Chinese also only really bother giving IQ tests to people in cities. Rural people make up a huge percent of Chinese population Chinese mega cities basically only let in the rich or smart/educated classes.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

It's literally the exact opposite. IQ heritability increases with age, from about 0.2 to 0.8. Children's brains are more plastic. When you get older and your brain converges genetically to its true potential, that's when IQ tests have much more predictive validity.

Another problem with high scores at a young age is its sort of like those height graphs.

They use statistics to figure out at your current height/age how much on average people grew from there. You could be 5'9 at 13 and they would predict 6'5 but you may never grow another inch or you might now grow to full height till 23 point is these things can only predict the average outcome. They add more points to underage scores and assume you will get smarter at a linear rate. Like an 8 year old who scores 100 IQ would be assumed to be 130 IQ or something since the average 8 year old is in the 70 range.

Lots of child prodigies in gifted courses I've seen slowly fall back to normal despite being seemingly years ahead as everyone catches up by college. The closer you get to 18 the more set in stone it is though IQ really doesn't easily change beyond that point unless you are extremely unhealthy or malnourished its relatively stable and then it declines after 25 if you have bad health.

*Why tf do I always write long responses to these kinds of threads its like my autism compels me to do it

 

[DefinitelyNT]

Would take this with a grain of salt, lots of academics don't even bother relying on Chinese papers because their product is notoriously frauded

 

[Skywalker]

Would take this with a grain of salt, lots of academics don't even bother relying on Chinese papers because their product is notoriously frauded

yeah , muh "chinese are the best", "5000 year civilization"
meanwhile they eat bugs and rats and are bug-minded, 1 deviation from societal norms and ppl will chastise you, or the state will shoot you, literally bug/ robot tier

 

[Crusile]

It's literally the exact opposite. IQ heritability increases with age, from about 0.2 to 0.8. Children's brains are more plastic. When you get older and your brain converges genetically to its true potential, that's when IQ tests have much more predictive validity.

epic heritability

Also these heritability estimates cant prove genetic heritability

 

[Crusile]

Another problem with high scores at a young age is its sort of like those height graphs.

They use statistics to figure out at your current height/age how much on average people grew from there. You could be 5'9 at 13 and they would predict 6'5 but you may never grow another inch or you might now grow to full height till 23 point is these things can only predict the average outcome. They add more points to underage scores and assume you will get smarter at a linear rate. Like an 8 year old who scores 100 IQ would be assumed to be 130 IQ or something since the average 8 year old is in the 70 range.

Lots of child prodigies in gifted courses I've seen slowly fall back to normal despite being seemingly years ahead as everyone catches up by college. The closer you get to 18 the more set in stone it is though IQ really doesn't easily change beyond that point unless you are extremely unhealthy or malnourished its relatively stable and then it declines after 25 if you have bad health.

*Why tf do I always write long responses to these kinds of threads its like my autism compels me to do it

Yea but they don't fall back in iq because iq doesn't measure intelligences. IQ is stable because they will keep obtaining knowledge in school

 

[Mr.Proper]

The article is from 1989. Interesting to know how results changed over the years.

 

[sibience]

I trust Japans scores they are the best of the East Asians. Around 106 on average though. Chinese also only really bother giving IQ tests to people in cities. Rural people make up a huge percent of Chinese population Chinese mega cities basically only let in the rich or smart/educated classes.
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East asians are much higher than 106 IQ on average.

If they were only 105, you would see mostly jews in math, physics, computing olympiads and the rare asian and white. East asians in reality are around 115 on average, and jews are around 105. Most olympiads are only asians with the rare jew and rare white.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

East asians are much higher than 106 IQ on average.

If they were only 105, you would see mostly jews in math, physics, computing olympiads and the rare asian and white. East asians in reality are around 115 on average, and jews are around 105. Most olympiads are only asians with the rare jew and rare white.

Well for one IQ of Jews is very overinflated in the West and its more verbal then mathematical. Another explanation is that there are 500 millions White people and around 3 billion Asians the ones in the West are already the top of the line back home math is very much ingrained in Asian society. No one in high level mathematics is normal to begin with so if the average East Asian was 106 then you take a lot at the top .1% there's more Asians making the cut off.

Its the same reason we always hear about the nerdy Indian STEM major in reality most Indians are stupid asf. The sample size in America is Brahmin elites who are the top of the line. You know I could say the same thing about British students every British exchange student in my Uni was very smart but I've been to the UK average Brit is retarded its because only the smart/rich ones end up studying abroad.

 

[Deleted member 26859]

average Brit is retarded

brits are statistically the least "retarded" country in the entire world


why do u think u ended up speaking their language lmfao u colonization victim jealous of brits

 

[Deleted member 31953]

IQ changes greatly during puberty. It can increase or decrease by 30 points.
Just like height, your IQ is a matter of genetic expression. You can't make an accurate estimate of one's actual height before they enter puberty, you can only make guesses.

Thats blatantly false. IQ is genetically pre-determined. Look up Ed Dutton, he’s a great professor who completely decimates this notion. Also, 30 points is the difference between a mental retard and a normal person (70-100), and a normal person and a genius (100-130). Do you see how ridiculous that sounds when put in perspective?

 

[Deleted member 31953]

"g-factor"/IQ doesnt exist, and genetic IQ test taking ability doesnt exist.

The Wilson effect is false/made up. Identical twins copy each others behavior more and more as they get older

you can predict height @40% with genetics, unlike IQ. IQ is zero percent "genetic expression" and is stable through puberty but sinceIQ isnt innate, it can change any amount of "points" throughout someones life.
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because G is a false variable that doesnt measure intelligence. You can test asian people, they wont have mean "115 iq" unlike with jews.

The implication of that correlation is false and it doesnt even linearly correlate. G is a false variable that doesnt exist, there is no explaining to do on "IQ differences" lmfao

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289608000603 SAT/ACT predicts college GPA after removing the false variable of g

You cherry pick data. G is not a false variable, and does accurately predict life outcomes. What kind of cope is this?

 

[thecel]

Thats blatantly false. IQ is genetically pre-determined. Look up Ed Dutton, he’s a great professor who completely decimates this notion. Also, 30 points is the difference between a mental retard and a normal person (70-100), and a normal person and a genius (100-130). Do you see how ridiculous that sounds when put in perspective?

130 IQ isn’t a genius bro. If it were, Wheat Waffles would be beyond genius.

 

[Deleted member 31953]

130 IQ isn’t a genius bro. If it were, Wheat Waffles would be beyond genius.

What Waffle isn’t a genius and he doesn’t have a 130+ IQ. He’s probably somewhere in the 105-120 range. Also, just because you have a high IQ doesn’t mean much. It’s just a gift that can POTENTIALLY be used for great things. Many smart autists don’t amount to much beyond leading a middle class lifestyle because they lack certain personality characteristics that the genius usually posses.

 

[thecel]

What Waffle isn’t a genius and he doesn’t have a 130+ IQ. He’s probably somewhere in the 105-120 range.

His IQ is in the 140s IIRC.

 

[WeiWei]

 

[Deleted member 31953]

His IQ is in the 140s IIRC.

Could be, who am I to judge. He would be in the top .2 pecent of the population though. So I always wager that it’s more then not that he’s lying to lend credibility to himself.

 

[Deleted member 31155]

His IQ is in the 140s IIRC.

Hey thecel, I have seen your face all around this forum and I am wondering what kind of surgeries are you getting in the future to fix that

 

[rapidinshallah]

Thats blatantly false. IQ is genetically pre-determined. Look up Ed Dutton, he’s a great professor who completely decimates this notion. Also, 30 points is the difference between a mental retard and a normal person (70-100), and a normal person and a genius (100-130). Do you see how ridiculous that sounds when put in perspective?

Yes it is. Just like how height is too.
It's a matter of genetic expression that takes place in puberty.
But you can never be certain.

 

[Geneticist]

This is consistent with the average IQ of developed Chinese cities which range from 113-119. And the IQ gap between East Asians and other races is only increasing from here lmao, soon Asians will be 130+ IQ average

 

[Deleted member 11126]

View attachment 2321832brits are statistically the least "retarded" country in the entire world


why do u think u ended up speaking their language lmfao u colonization victim jealous of brits

I respect the British elite but the average Brit is a peasant at heart they are trash Germany should have won what a disgusting unworthy culture.

 

[sibience]

His IQ is in the 140s IIRC.

JFL believing wheat waffles

 

[Debetro]

Nice thread !

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

asian countries only allow certain children to be tested, retard

 

[sibience]

asian countries only allow certain children to be tested, retard

Look at 2018 OECD PISA results, which was literally randomly sampled and conducted by white people.

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

Look at 2018 OECD PISA results, which was literally randomly sampled and conducted by white people.

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absolutely nothing you can say to convince me that china would allow random sampling

 

[sibience]

absolutely nothing you can say to convince me that china would allow random sampling

THE OECD PISA IS CONDUCTED BY WHITEEEE PEOPLE.

WHITE PEOPLE GO TO ALL THE COUNTRIES AND RANDOMLY SELECT AND PAY STUDENTS TO PERFORM THE EXAMS AS PART OF THEIR RESEARCH.

 

[einzigartig]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

"Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true." never heard that i thought everyone agreed that asians are higher iq

 

[sibience]

@einzigartig Yes, most people do agree asians are higher IQ, but many don't realize that the gap between asian-white IQ is very large.

Many cope thinking "asian IQ is only a little bit higher"

 

[einzigartig]

@einzigartig Yes, most people do agree asians are higher IQ, but many don't realize that the gap between asian-white IQ is very large.

Many cope thinking "asian IQ is only a little bit higher"

and people underestimate a standard deviation. if the median is like 116 many will be way over the number