Mouth Breathers

[randomvanish]

So you think there is no way a kid can develop right if somehow being recessed is in their "genes"?

nope, i didn't say that.
there are cases like accidents, blokages at nose&airways(via numerous reasons), traumas, tumors, birth defections etc.
however these are relatively super rare, mostly it's all about genetics. inhereted.

otherwise, "it's because you didn't press your tongue to your jaw" or "you somehow deliberately were a mouth breater" is just dumbass bs mostly spreaded by mew cunt.
no one can be a mouth breather without recessed structure or some extraordinary causations (like i said it first).


i'm saying, again, mouth breating is a result not a cause or reason for recession.

 

[randomvanish]

I never said genes are perfect.

how the fuck you NEVER said ? you just said recession by genetic reasons not "a thing"

 

[Uglyandfat]

I mouth breathed through puberty cause they were always blocked up i still do it when i sleep too

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

nope, i didn't say that.
there are cases like accidents, blokages at nose&airways(via numerous reasons), traumas, tumors, birth defections etc.
however these are relatively super rare, mostly it's all about genetics. inhereted.

otherwise, "it's because you didn't press your tongue to your jaw" or "you somehow deliberately were a mouth breater" is just dumbass bs mostly spreaded by mew cunt.
no one can be a mouth breather without recessed structure or some extraordinary causations (like i said it first).


i'm saying, again, mouth breating is a result not a cause or reason for recession.

Well
I mouth breathed all my life before this site and Im not recessed.
I agree "just mew" is dumb
Chewing seems to be the most important factor when it comes to becoming recessed or not, tongue is important too but not as much for forward growth from my observations

I had bruxism and clenching all my life.

Groups of people which have hard diets are pretty much always forward grown and developed right. Look at weston price's shit.

Environment changes gene expression. You say these cases with mouth breathing are inherited because the parents were mouth breathers too but dont you realize these people may just have the same habits, diets, etc and therefore environment?

Since when having allergies is an extraordinary causation to mouth breathing?

 

[pizza]

Trust his IQ over yours. Sorry.

i'm already tired of these genetics copers, this is already getting boring

 

[randomvanish]

I mouth breathed through puberty cause they were always blocked up i still do it when i sleep too

i remember you're not recessed though ?

 

[TITUS]

Most likely both, people breathe through the mouth due to genetic and enviromental reasons and they end up looking uglier.

 

[Babushkacatlady]

Grow up away from industrialization, pollution, indoor living, allergens, inflammatory foods, etc. Grow up in the wild with a tribe with a few dozen people, where you are outdoors most of the time and you need to hunt your food or fight an enemy tribe trying to invade or evade some hungry animal. Practice good oral and body posture. Sleep on a rock or other flat surface. Do this from birth to the time you are about 25 or so (if you live that long). After this time come to me about "genetically small airways" (after you've married your tribal wife of course) and I might give the idea some consideration.

Nasal obstruction due to allergens or other environmental causes-->Mouth breathing -->smaller airway from form change-->Mouth breathing-->smaller airway from form change...etc.

 

[Babushkacatlady]

Also facial bone is plastic throughout life. Please see those who develop soft tissue and bone tumors and how bone moves out of the way for them. The reasons most orthotropists don't treat most people beyond a certain age is due to the effort, even lower profitability, how long and unpredictable cases span (up to a decade due to slowed bone growth and remodeling capacity), lack of patient dedication (complaints about wearing appliances consistently being "impossible"), etc.

So yes the assessment is that it isn't clinically worthwhile to spend that much time and effort beyond a certain age, because for all that effort with the patient you are still getting a slow and mediocre change on a year-by-year basis, something in the region of 0.75-1mm per year, well within the range of measurement error. It should be up to the individual to correct their own oral posture and spending as much time as they see fit doing so rather than a clinician who can have a higher profitability (and peace of mind ) seeing a younger patient with faster changes in less time.

If you suffer from airway obstruction, severe TMJ issues like condylar resorption, or a bite issue that is making it impossible to effectively chew food it is basically slowly killing you (especially airway problems). If this is the case, surgery is optimal and practical for both you and your ortho because the sooner you have a better airway the better. No point in waiting for your facial complex to remodel slowly when you have a functional need that should be addressed as soon as possible. Surgery will still relapse on the skeletal level to some degree. If you want a cosmetic change, you can either get it immediately if you are impatient or you could slowly remodel your face (which is within the laws of biomechanics) and achieve a more stable, natural looking result (without suffering the risk of someone else messing up with the accurate cutting, repositioning, and securing of the jaws and swelling for 6 months, I have watched dozens if not hundreds of videos on how this surgery is done and I recommend anyone interested in the topic or surgery itself watch it for themselves).