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never seen anyone that isn't either ugly asf or old mouth breathe.chad mouth breathes and still mogs so this is cope
everythings in the genes
chad mouth breathes and still mogs so this is cope
everythings in the genes
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Cope he's a slaying demon
Never seen anyone that isn't stupid not understand the concept of correlation causation.never seen anyone that isn't either ugly asf or old mouth breathe.
Luh?nn? replied to the thread Discussion Drop your theories/potential maxxes.Stfu dweeb you’re not blackpilled nor intelligent for this take
Just a edgy retard
Why are you quoting me like this adds anything?Luh?nn? replied to the thread Discussion Drop your theories/potential maxxes.
Finn, why must you be disrespectful and rude when you can engage in helpful conversation? This isn’t adding anything; you’re better than...
Finn, why must you be disrespectful and rude when you can engage in helpful conversation?Why are you quoting me like this adds anything?
You honestly sat there and typed out a whole comment. Dick sucking Chad
"Muh, Chad's mouth breathes." Stfu retard, go hang yourself.
Never seen anyone that isn't stupid not understand the concept of correlation causation.
TNigga think he intelligent correlation causation nigga just using words
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Lemme go find a Chad with bad oral posture/body posture who also mouth breathes real quick
Finn, why must you be disrespectful and rude when you can engage in helpful conversation?
cry about it while i laugh, win for me.There's no hope for you, bro, if you make comments like this, btw.
I'm just saying if you're a mouth breather you're a complete weirdo. Not saying nose breathing automatically makes you chadNever seen anyone that isn't stupid not understand the concept of correlation causation.
You can go look up the definition of words you don t understand.Nigga think he intelligent correlation causation nigga just using words
The pic supports my point. "Smaller airway" and "crooked nose". How can you not envisage that maybe it s the other way around and the reason why many people mouthbreath is because of being recessed and having small airways (and other congenital breathing problems which are generally indicative of bad genes).
You can go look up the definition of words you don t understand.
The pic supports my point. "Smaller airway" and "crooked nose". How can you not envisage that maybe it s the other way around and the reason why many people mouthbreath is because of being recessed and having small airways (and other congenital breathing problems which are generally indicative of bad genes
Yes naturally we are but we aren t natural after centuries of agriculture.I understand these words, but no kid is naturally born recessed.
You say genes, okay? What genes?
We are all supposed to have a big enough airway to breathe
The genes got bad. It s called degeneration.; these problems (malocclusion, smaller jaws, breathing problems) didn’t occur because of bad genes; they occurred simply because of a bad environment.
If these were bad genes, this wouldn’t be a recent problem. You look at our ancestors; they had bigger jaws, and the population of them had little to no malocclusion.
This “everything is a gene” is cope.
The fact that you’re ugly is partially your fault
I have a sibling that mouthbreathed heavily as a child, pre-teen and teen (I think due to non congenital nose issues, their nose was always clogged) yet has no downward growth and a big jaw.We all know mouthbreathing is detrimental to the face. If you can find me an attractive man who mouthbreath his entire life, sure, I got
You, and even if you did, they were practically a unicorn.
Where did I say there's no environmental factors ? You re just focusing on the wrong ones. Talking about breastfeeding for example would make more sense.Also, if a child was born with smaller airways, they would die as babies, so these problems are developed by environmental factors.
Now if you believe if a kid was fed proper amounts of vitamin K2, chewed hard food, had good posture, would be recessed, and have bad airways,
Bad genes is kind of your fault in the sense that it s the fault of your ancestors (if you think about it you re your ancestors since your genes, you, come from them) for spending their lives laboring while eating bread and just being slaves overall.This “everything is a gene” is cope.
The fact that you’re ugly is partially your fault.
Yes naturally we are but we aren t natural after centuries of agriculture.
The genes got bad. It s called degeneration.
I have a sibling that mouthbreathed heavily as a child, pre-teen and teen (I think due to non congenital nose issues, their nose was always clogged) yet has no downward growth and a big jaw.
Where did I say there's no environmental factors ? You re just focusing on the wrong ones. Talking about breastfeeding for example would make more sense.
I have no idea why you guys think chewing hard food (don t even know what hard food is supposed to mean) helps you in anyway. It s just something you heard.
Yes naturally we are but we aren t natural after centuries of agriculture.
The genes got bad. It s called degeneration.
I have a sibling that mouthbreathed heavily as a child, pre-teen and teen (I think due to non congenital nose issues, their nose was always clogged) yet has no downward growth and a big jaw.
Where did I say there's no environmental factors ? You re just focusing on the wrong ones. Talking about breastfeeding for example would make more sense.
I have no idea why you guys think chewing hard food (don t even know what hard food is supposed to mean) helps you in anyway. It s just something you heard.
The genes themselves don't really change I took a shortcut above. It s mostly that they don t express fully if your parents, grand parents,... didn t eat properly.I’m arguing that the genes didn’t change that significantly , but the factors did.
nopeYour initial take assumed that there are no environmental factors. I am simply reading what you typed.
They are. You follow the theories made up by some anglo money grabber. I follow what my eyes tell me. I watched videos of pastoralist african tribes that drink blood and milk and they have mogger bones. They don t chew. They do consume a lot of k2 ofc so you re right about that part.And the factors I listed were not the wrong ones.
no reason to believe thatYou’re simply ignorant of the importance of them.
You need to actively use your jaw so it can develop to its potential like any other bone. When forces are not applied, they will slowly degenerate,
Old people chew less ?which is exactly why older people suffer from facial bone loss (with lower vitamin K2 in our era) and not chewing hard foods.
In 3-4 generations you can go from bone mogger to complete degenerate. Pottenger cat study as well as the study of aboriginal Australians after european invasion show that.Modern day Humans have been around for 300,000 years. 10k–12k of these years we used agriculture I don’t believe the genes changed that significantly in that span of time
Great video to learn more
When I say the genes changed I mean that during your life if you re malnourished you will have worst offspring and so on.To summarize the genes didn’t change that significantly the environment did if the environment improved major of kids with recession/malocclusions would improve
Because you said yourself that our ancestors were moggers. But what has changed since then ? Nutrition. (and other things relating to chemicals in the environment,...)If you understand each factor, why would the ones I choose be the wrong ones?
Because yours have no logical backing and could be explained by the cause and the effect being flipped. Even if you could prove that prehistoric humans didn't mouth breath and had perfect tongue posture I would just say that that is because their palate was perfectly formed as well as their overall bone structure and thus they would up in the natural resting position.If you understand each factor, why would the ones I choose be the wrong ones?
Nigga, so you basically just said, "Nun, uh, I'm not going to listen.”The genes themselves don't really change I took a shortcut above. It s mostly that they don t express fully if your parents, grand parents,... didn t eat properly.
nope
They are. You follow the theories made up by some anglo money grabber. I follow what my eyes tell me. I watched videos of pastoralist african tribes that drink blood and milk and they have mogger bones. They don t chew. They do consume a lot of k2 though so you re right about that part.
Meanwhile some random peasant is gonna chew his hard bread all day and he ll still look like shit and his descendants even worse than him.
no reason to believe that
Old people chew less ?
In 3-4 generations you can go from bone mogger to complete degenerate. Pottenger cat study as well as the study of aboriginal Australians after european invasion show that.
not gonna watch that lol
When I say the genes changed I mean that during your life if you re malnourished you will have worst offspring and so on.
I don t think they chewed much more hard food (still curious about what you guys mean by "hard food").
And yours does? Bro, you’re talking like you're some authority figure who can't be wrong.Because yours have no logical backing and could be explained by the cause and the effect being flipped. Even if you could prove that prehistoric humans didn't mouth breath and had perfect tongue posture I would just say that that is because their palate was perfectly formed as well as their overall bone structure and thus they would up in the natural resting position.
What kid is malnourished in 2024? Especially in our current societyIn 3-4 generations you can go from bone mogger to complete degenerate. Pottenger cat study as well as the study of aboriginal Australians after european invasion show that.
When I say the genes changed I mean that during your life if you re malnourished you will have worst offspring and so on.
Like bro I’m reading your shit, and you’re changing shit up mid-type.The genes themselves don't really change I took a shortcut above. It s mostly that they don t express fully if your parents, grand parents,... didn t eat properly.
Because yours have no logical backing and could be explained by the cause and the effect being flipped. Even if you could prove that prehistoric humans didn't mouth breath and had perfect tongue posture I would just say that that is because their palate was perfectly formed as well as their overall bone structure and thus they would up in the natural resting position.
https://price-pottenger.org/blog/pottengers-cats-early-epigenetics-and-implications-for-your-health/3/4 generations isn’t enough to change the genes.
I m not going to watch some random video for normies it doesn t interest me. And since even after watching the video you re unable to formulate anything I don t think the video is very edifying. If they had any good argument you would use them.The outward appearance is caused by environmental factors.
Yes, old people have lower strengths of mastifaction, and since our diet is soft food and they don't have enough k2, they will suffer more bone loss.
Theories made up? And let me guess the guy on org somehow has all the answers.
Watched videos? Bro, like I said, you’re not better than the Anglo money grabber; you’re not investigating or conducting shit.
Just watching videos "I'm not going to watch that, lol,” but I'm going to watch what supports you.
Anybody knows
Body posture affects facial form. This isn’t just muh duh observations, dude.
"anybody knows" is not an argumentSame with chewing
Link it but I think I ve already seen it. It just lead to slight stress response changes in areas that don t affect looks. And also they didn t mention what the foods were maybe there was a difference in nutritionIs there no reason to understand basic biology? Bruh, if we don’t use our muscles, they will atrophy. Forces applied when chewing affect the jawbone since the muscles are attached to bone (literally, there has been a study with mice doing this; I will link it if you want).
When I said moggers I meant they had proper facial development.“Because you said yourself that our ancestors were moggers. But what has changed since then ? Nutrition. (and other things relating to chemicals in the environment,...)”
Never said they were moggers dude they just have proper facial development
You re talking about fat ? Yeah it can get hard to chew but overall their diet wasn t hard to chew.“You don’t think” lmao they had to chew more bro their food wasn’t as palatable as our
And yours does?
No you are. You keep repeating that mouthbreathing and not chewing cause this and that and you use arguments from authority to prove it. "Do a google search, everyobody knows",...Bro, you’re talking like you're some authority figure who can't be wrong.
No we don tBro WE ALL KNOW MOUTH BREATHING CAUSES A DETRIMENT TO THE FACE
No proof.It's a fucking Google search away.
You can't call me ignorant for not having your beliefs. It s like a christian telling me I m ignorant for not believing in angelsBro, if you have to play ignorant to win an argument, then your argument is fucking shit.
Pretty much all of them. For example you said yourself that we don t have enough K2 nowadays. So you re contradicting yourself. Good job.What kid is malnourished in 2024?
Yeah but the expression seems to be already determined at birth is my point.Like bro I’m reading your shit, and you’re changing shit up mid-type.
“The genes themselves don’t really change; they just don’t express themselves fully.”
Exactly what I’m saying, bro, if the environment was different, the genes would be expressed more so or fully, so the genes didn’t change significantly at all.
holy fucking shit when are you niggers gonna stop coping
chad mouth breathes and still mogs so this is cope
everythings luck
just mew and ascend by 5 PSL bro!Too many essays, dnr
https://price-pottenger.org/blog/pottengers-cats-early-epigenetics-and-implications-for-your-health/
"The degenerative health of the cats on cooked meat/cooked milk diets continued and appeared to be passed from generation to generation"
I m not going to watch some random video for normies it doesn t interest me. And since even after watching the video you re unable to formulate anything I don t think the video is very edifying. If they had any good argument you would use them.
"anybody knows" is not an argument
Link it but I think I ve already seen it. It just lead to slight stress response changes in areas that don t affect looks. And also they didn t mention what the foods were maybe there was a difference in nutrition
When I said moggers I meant they had proper facial development.
You re talking about fat ? Yeah it can get hard to chew but overall their diet wasn t hard to chew.
No you are. You keep repeating that mouthbreathing and not chewing cause this and that and you use arguments from authority to prove it. "Do a google search, everyobody knows",...
No we don t
No proof.
You can't call me ignorant for not having your beliefs. It s like a christian telling me I m ignorant for not believing in angels
Pretty much all of them. For example you said yourself that we don t have enough K2 nowadays. So you re contradicting yourself. Good job.
Yeah but the expression seems to be already determined at birth is my point.
I m referring to degeneration I don t know how to word it properly. I looked up the proper term and it seems to be transgenerational epigenetic inheritance.
No we don t
No proof.
Did I say they can ? Maybe I should have added "even" Even if you could prove that prehistoric humans didn't mouth breath and even had perfect tongue posture. So this is a hypothetical situation where you re able to prove that they didn t mouthbreath, and then there s even an other hypothetical situation in which you re able to prove that they had proper tongue posture.Nigga You can’t even mouthbreathe with proper tongue posture; your tongue is blocking your fucking airway. That's why you use your nose, dumbass.
So no, they can’t mouth-breathe and have a natural resting position in which the tongue is up.
It's notAnd like I said, it's a common fact that mouth breathing has a negative effect on the face,
It would be perfectly formed if their great-grandparents, grand-parents and parents would have eaten a lot of raw meat and been breastfed for 5 years.so I don’t think their palate would be perfectly formed, dumbass.
What is ?Everything is conflicting in your response.
I'm not intelligent nor trying to be. But I guess you get the impression that I m trying to be smart since I m somewhat thinking for myself.You wanna be intelligent motherfucker.
Well I explain what I think with other arguments than "muh everyone knows".Fucking no logical backing, huh? What a genius you are!
Link it but I think I ve already seen it. It just lead to slight stress response changes in areas that don t affect looks. And also they didn t mention what the foods were maybe there was a difference in nutrition
You didn’t lmao this isn’t going anywhere, ignore list you goDid I say they can ? Maybe I should have added "even" Even if you could prove that prehistoric humans didn't mouth breath and even had perfect tongue posture. So this is a hypothetical situation where you re able to prove that they didn t mouthbreath, and then there s even an other hypothetical situation in which you re able to prove that they had proper tongue posture.
The fact you re getting caught up over this and focusing on it shows that you don't have anything of substance to say.
It's not
It would be perfectly formed if their great-grandparents, grand-parents and parents would have eaten a lot of raw meat and been breastfed for 5 years.
What is ?
I'm not intelligent nor trying to be. But I guess you get the impression that I m trying to be smart since I m somewhat thinking for myself.
Well I explain what I think with other arguments than "muh everyone knows".
You getting excited over me writing "mouthbreathing" and "proper tongue posture" in the same sentence shows that you re unable to respond to the actual idea I m trying to convey. You re just focusing on a small detail that is not something we re even arguing.
It was possible through multiple generations (and not even fully). You literally cut at "though" you dishonest retard.In my last response I broke down several points from you that fucking contradicted
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So your own theory isn’t really holding up hro
You’re only arguing at this point to help your ego You’re not learning shit
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“Pottenger attempted to test the potential regeneration" of health by means of replacing a cooked diet with a raw one. He found that this was indeed possible,”
Unironically this. I personally know 1 chad who mouthbreathed his whole life yet he's a chad with good jaw and jawline, looks high T too.. I've known him since he was like 9 or some shitchad mouth breathes and still mogs so this is cope
everythings in the genes
It was possible through multiple generations (and not even fully). You literally cut at "though" you dishonest retard.
Yes, I am, I’m surprised that's somebody this damn stupid on a looksmaxing forum. It’s over for you, bro.You definitely don t seem like a butthurt loser putting me on ignore in the middle of a debate lol.
Yes so the genes degenerated and then repaired.