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Ideal is steeve reeves yakhi . Very light dose steroids if anyThey are high status Maxxed in the fitness/gym community meaning
Big $
Pussy
Fame
They are winning while I’m laying in my room coping jfl
He was natty I've watched all his content available on the internetIdeal is steeve reeves yakhi . Very light dose steroids if any
Ideal is steeve reeves yakhi . Very light dose steroids if any
nvm he actually looks good without the weird fucking spray tan and diuretics..They are high status Maxxed in the fitness/gym community meaning
Big $
Pussy
Fame
They are winning while I’m laying in my room coping jfl
Yh I always see stage ready as dumb as far u look ridiculous should be about looking good how Arnold and the pioneers made it not being an absolute tren abusing redpiller jflnvm he actually looks good without the weird fucking spray tan and diuretics..
I mean loox actually has good physique Just poses weird af kinda frauding huge shoulders and shit cuz in candid he looks like any other fitness modefrank zane and steve reeves look ideal as far as i see it
loox looks and acts like a gigantic weirdo even if it slays I would barf looking in the mirror..
Even the modern men's physique are aesthetic but for my preference too big tooNot worth it
But they’re passionate about it
At open division the guys look like mutants at this point. Grotesque stuff ngl
obviously they are more aesthetic than guys who don't lift lmao, but going that far and aging your organs, losing your hair 20 years for the sake of sport = and they still look worse than some generic dude who lifts and injects 500mg of T casuallyEven the modern men's physique are aesthetic but for my preference too big too
Whatever you do you still can't cheat your genetics yakhiit's tricky tbh
why do guys like derek mmpd after amassing this much knowledge about pharmacology, nutrition and bodybuilding still look worse than broscience abusers who don't have a single clue what they inject in their ass? his physique is far from aesthetic
I'm wondering if hyper-intellectualizing symmetry, looksmax methods and mental masturbation is a waste of time and it's better off winging it from the information you. trying to know every drug interaction trying to invent the perfect looks theory, I'm not sure if its worth it even it feels comforting
Illusion of control-maxxing?
It’s mainly just genetics bro. Also genetic response to PEDs for the roidmaxxers. You can try influence the proportions and aesthetics through training, but at the end of the days it’s all about your genes determining how aesthetic you will lookit's tricky tbh
why do guys like derek mmpd after amassing this much knowledge about pharmacology, nutrition and bodybuilding still look worse than broscience abusers who don't have a single clue what they inject in their ass? his physique is far from aesthetic
I'm wondering if hyper-intellectualizing symmetry, looksmax methods and mental masturbation is a waste of time and it's better off winging it from the information you. trying to know every drug interaction trying to invent the perfect looks theory, I'm not sure if its worth it even it feels comforting
Illusion of control-maxxing?
There was that guy Andre the Libra or something from physique, he looked good imoEven the modern men's physique are aesthetic but for my preference too big too
Whatever you do you still can't cheat your genetics yakhi
It’s mainly just genetics bro. Also genetic response to PEDs for the roidmaxxers. You can try influence the proportions and aesthetics through training, but at the end of the days it’s all about your genes determining how aesthetic you will look
The original men's physique look is idealobviously they are more aesthetic than guys who don't lift lmao, but going that far and aging your organs, losing your hair 20 years for the sake of sport = and they still look worse than some generic dude who lifts and injects 500mg of T casually
modern bodybuilding is rubbish
It’s tricky yeh. Some people have amazing natty genes but if they hope on gear they won’t responde well to the substances. Some people look dogshit natty and completely transform while they jump on juice. Genes are weird manyou can't cheat your genetics
but you also don't know what your genetics are until you push a few doors to see what's underneath
double whammy
bro I really doubt it, they do amog the men around them but I have never seen a girl fawning over some IFBB pro over some tiktok prettyboy or hollywood actor with distorted abs but lean face and white skinThe original men's physique look is ideal
Steve cook, Jeff seid etc
However even irl some women will say it's too much, tbh sometimes theyre just Intimidated knowing these guys wouldn't even look their way lol
Interesting bro. I always saw this the opposite way tbh. Guys like jeff seid and steve cook, irl they look amazing but not grotesque. Much smaller in clothes and without 6% stage ready bodyfat. Girls would probably find that ideal when those guys are offseason, just chilling on the streetsSteve cook, Jeff seid etc
However even irl some women will say it's too much, tbh sometimes theyre just Intimidated knowing these guys wouldn't even look their way lol
True. Even good natty bodybuilders don't sometimes respond well to roids . Some guys respond well to natty training. Some guys respond well to roids . You can get a rough idea of your genetics after a year of natty bodybuilding and good diet and Training and sleep and routine with good micronutrient and hormonal profile and natty t maxxing. Shock your body for maximum gains . Overall a good bone structure means you'll look big .you can't cheat your genetics
but you also don't know what your genetics are until you push a few doors to see what's underneath
double whammy
True it's actually hard to be a natty and to be big . We are considering sub18 bf%.big bones can help you make look . Bigger bones hold more muscleInteresting bro. I always saw this the opposite way tbh. Guys like jeff seid and steve cook, irl they look amazing but not grotesque. Much smaller in clothes and without 6% stage ready bodyfat. Girls would probably find that ideal when those guys are offseason, just chilling on the streets
Not best comparison but look at davide and jay’d physique from love island. They’re not men physique tier but something like that most girls would not say no to
True bro, when I drop bodyfat to single digits I have to wear tighter clothes to look big. And I’m a big guy lol, such is the natty effectTrue it's actually hard to be a natty and to be big . We are considering sub18 bf%.big bones can help you make look . Bigger bones hold more muscle
Below 12% is a no no yakhi . Shit sex drive and moodyTrue bro, when I drop bodyfat to single digits I have to wear tighter clothes to look big. And I’m a big guy lol, such is the natty effect
Ik, it’s been a while since I’ve been that lean nglBelow 12% is a no no yakhi . Shit sex drive and moody
Yeah I agree manInteresting bro. I always saw this the opposite way tbh. Guys like jeff seid and steve cook, irl they look amazing but not grotesque. Much smaller in clothes and without 6% stage ready bodyfat. Girls would probably find that ideal when those guys are offseason, just chilling on the streets
Not best comparison but look at davide and jay’d physique from love island. They’re not men physique tier but something like that most girls would not say no to
16-18 % is pretty good yakhi if you have well developed abs . Will look good and okayish and wide frame like yoursIk, it’s been a while since I’ve been that lean ngl
I’m bloatlord now. Kinda suits me ngl
16-18 is in a different world compared to 10-12 considering how distorted your facial features would look16-18 % is pretty good yakhi if you have well developed abs . Will look good and okayish and wide frame like yours
The physique in the pic attached is all u need tbh to be ideal for girls. Any more than that is just personal choice imoYeah I agree man
I'm just saying ask a her girl her 'ideal' body she'd probably show something like the pic attached - which is tiny compared to Jeff seid, Steve cook etc lol
But women lie and deep down probably do prefer the Steve cook, Jeff seid look- it's the ideal look I'd like personally too but probs not achievable for me haha
Yeh Davide, jay have good physiques
16-18 is in a different world compared to 10-12 considering how distorted your facial features would look
Depends how robust your facial bones are but yeh. 16-18% is not ideal for cheekbones to pop, hollow cheeks to show etc16-18 is in a different world compared to 10-12 considering how distorted your facial features would look
but that same good fat distribution would look even better at 10-12If you have good facial fat distribution doesn't matter . @StreegeReturn has insane fat distribution. Even at 20%bf his face looks lean . I'm blessed with above average fat distribution too so it's not that bad . Also beardfraud can help
The physique in the pic attached is all u need tbh to be ideal for girls. Any more than that is just personal choice
I’m same as streege tbh, cant gain fat in face even at high bodyfat. It’s a blessingIf you have good facial fat distribution doesn't matter . @StreegeReturn has insane fat distribution. Even at 20%bf his face looks lean . I'm blessed with above average fat distribution too so it's not that bad . Also beardfraud can help
Indeed bro, couldn’t have said it betterTrue but we're all suckers for the male gaze . We all wanna the biggest in the alpha pack . The alpha , the monster
but that same good fat distribution would look even better at 10-12
Defo broThe physique in the pic attached is all u need tbh to be ideal for girls. Any more than that is just personal choice imo
Lucky for @StreegeReturn and @PCT01 I go full moon face at 20%If you have good facial fat distribution doesn't matter . @StreegeReturn has insane fat distribution. Even at 20%bf his face looks lean . I'm blessed with above average fat distribution too so it's not that bad . Also beardfraud can help
How's your metabolism Bhai ??Lucky for @StreegeReturn and @PCT01 I go full moon face at 20%
I'm 15-16% now and if I eat too many carbs face goes face but normal steady diet everyday stays decent enough
I want to hit 12% though face will look better then
Probably really bad coz I used to binge then eat strict diet and binge again lolHow's your metabolism Bhai ??
Probably really bad coz I used to binge then eat strict diet and binge again lol
Once I finish this cut before holiday I will focus on metabolism maxxing hard
Sprinting topless outside, eating more healthy food and testosterone maxxing
Bf maintenance aim will be 12-15% ideally 12 while I put on more muscle and once I hit 15% will eat maintenance
Never plan to cut again after this cut coz my metabolism will be permanently fucked haha
I'd love to have a body like that.Yeah I agree man
I'm just saying ask a her girl her 'ideal' body she'd probably show something like the pic attached - which is tiny compared to Jeff seid, Steve cook etc lol
But women lie and deep down probably do prefer the Steve cook, Jeff seid look- it's the ideal look I'd like personally too but probs not achievable for me haha
Yeh Davide, jay have good physiques
You should aspire to!I'd love to have a body like that.
It's definitely built for the female gaze. How much bf is that?You should aspire to!
I'd say 9-10%It's definitely built for the female gaze. How much bf is that?
I've got a long way to go.I'd say 9-10%
But even slightly higher at 12% would be maintainable for you and meIt's definitely built for the female gaze. How much bf is that?
Is that achievable with my frame?I'd say 9-10%
12% is still really good.But even slightly higher at 12% would be maintainable for you and me
As you are naturally heavier set