MSE botched this foid hard

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Left is before,right is after....how the fuck she ended up this asymmetrical ????
Why the fuck she needed it in first place...
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Ahh good to see such destructive results for the foid.
Only thing left is hydrochloric acid.
 
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Still can fuck Arvid, or better...

Before, she was Elon Musk-only.
But at least her TMJ is gone she wrote.....shit nigga,i would keep all kind of TMJ if after results will be like this :feelsrope:
 
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But at least her TMJ is gone she wrote.....
Well, let's hope that NOW, that she can open her jaws, she can suck cock like a Goddess...

... and will be able to find a multimillionaire she wants :feelscry:
 
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grim.
 
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idiots needa expand the lower jaw too and not jsut the upper there head is getting stuck like a balloon
 
mse assymetrys aint no joke. Must go to non retarded orthodontist first of all
 
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MSE is one of the dumbest memes in the history of PSL. There is not a single truly impressive before/after, yet numerous people here are willing to have their faces become lopsided for the unclear benefits of an experimental procedure. Stupid stupid stupid.
 
Left is before,right is after....how the fuck she ended up this asymmetrical ????
Why the fuck she needed it in first place...
@5.5psl @Artemis @mrriceguy @VenatorLuparius
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this is why. you have to fix you posture and all cranial distortions before you get mse or any other cosmetic appliances. Just get starecta+ALF theory man. then after get mse and then mew until u die
 
this is why. you have to fix you posture and all cranial distortions before you get mse or any other cosmetic appliances. Just get starecta+ALF theory man. then after get mse and then mew until u die
You're coping. MSE is an experimental procedure and there so far haven't been any great before/afters released. It's just a meme that people project their hopes on.
 
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You're coping. MSE is an experimental procedure and there so far haven't been any great before/afters released. It's just a meme that people project their hopes on.
u jus dont research or anything☠️, ur a retard who believes what people with high rep say so u normal subhumans wont make mse prices skyrocket☠️.mse expands and ONLY EXPANDS THE PALATE. if you have shit posture and or have an asymetrical face due to slanted or asymetrical spine or due to uneven dental height, your whole face will be and look asymetrical and ugly, since your maxilla and lower jaw will mold to your dental height. you have to fix your posture and dental height/asymetries before you actually do mse, thats why you do starecta. starecta fixes your dental height and fixes you spine and etc so you can have good or better posture, and i also recommended. alf since it is specifically designed in making your face have proper facial growth and development, so forward. growth and etc. you could do both starecta and alf at the same time but its just better to do starecta first to fix your dental height/posture then after you do alf to promote proper facial developement/growth. or you can do mse after starecta then after mse you do alf and hard mew all the time. and once you do all that, in 2-5 years youll look like the attractive alien JB. with perfect perpendicular human anatomy model looking ahh posture. ez simple but over if youre poorcel☠️. all these retarded surgeries for what? you wont look harmonious if you have a recessed maxilla and lower jaw but get surgeries to get hunter eyes and lipos for hollow cheeks:ROFLMAO:
 
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you wont look harmonious if you have a recessed maxilla
Even after 10 years of coping with MSE and other shit you will get mogged to suicide from Flatfaced Delisolla. Sorry to tell you but forward growth wont make you GL
 
Even after 10 years of coping with MSE and other shit you will get mogged to suicide from Flatfaced Delisolla. Sorry to tell you but forward growth wont make you GL
Even after 10 years of coping with MSE and other shit you will get mogged to suicide from Flatfaced Delisolla. Sorry to tell you but forward growth wont make you GL
Utter retard talking back with his subhuman ego is so 2023☠️
 
you know someone's low sentience when they fall for TWO scams at the same time...

starecta and alf? might as well do some subliminals and astrology charts buddy boyo. Both have as much scientific evidence.

Snake oil salesman will be rich untill the end of times because retards like you will pay them thousands for some unproven "hollistic functional" bs
listen i would explain to you the science and biomechanics behind orthodontic appliances but your ego is higher than HE himself. not too mension your insufferable pessimism and youre severe close mindedness:feelsuhh:. but hey its yo life:feelskek:
 
So convenient that you didn't bless me with your in-depth understanding behind the science of these appliances! Almost as if... there's none.
"Pessimism and close mindedness" is what you call people who don't immediately put all their faith onto some sketchy online miraculous snake oil? You just insufferably and severely weak minded


bro that lawsuit was abt agga☠️, fucking agga, im talking about alf,starecta, and mse. you fucking idiot☠️☠️☠️. like i said, using. orthodontic aplliances before fixing your posture and etc is retarded and will 100% make you look horrendous, thats why you get. starecta then alf then mse or starecta mse then alf, then MEW
 
its obviously clear you dont know shit about dental biomechanics, orthodontic appliances, etc. all you know is "muh forward growth" "muh surgery", youre just like that retarded mouthh breathing foid in that video ☠️. what that retarded foid needed was just a palatal expander and mewing. Her regular doctor recommended surgery, most probable was mse or any palatal expander but she chose agga☠️
 
its obviously clear you dont know shit about dental biomechanics, orthodontic appliances, etc. all you know is "muh forward growth" "muh surgery", youre just like that retarded mouthh breathing foid in that video ☠️. what that retarded foid needed was just a palatal expander and mewing. Her regular doctor recommended surgery, most probable was mse or any palatal expander but she chose agga☠️
Your 100% right, I’m not sure where you have been researching but you know exactly what you are talking about.
I am working with a orthodontist alf practitioner then planning to get an MSE currently.
She gets great results when I got the chance to intern with her and see her cases, ears change as ears are apart of the skull.
If you’d like to know more about her work hit my dm’s.
 
Brutal. With a face now that wonky she should join this forum.
 
u jus dont research or anything☠️,
About a year and a half ago, I did research on MSE and looked at all of the before/after pictures available. None of them were particularly impressive. A lot of them looked as minimal as "mewing transformations".

.mse expands and ONLY EXPANDS THE PALATE. if you have shit posture and or have an asymetrical face due to slanted or asymetrical spine or due to uneven dental height, your whole face will be and look asymetrical and ugly, since your maxilla and lower jaw will mold to your dental height.
you have to fix your posture and dental height/asymetries before you actually do mse, thats why you do starecta.
You don't understand the difference between facts and speculation. All this is broscience speculation, not fact. MSE has minimal proven benefits and major drawbacks (lopsided and/or disproportionate face). The guy who did the biggest MSE movement looks like a cartoon character.

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Don't ruin your face because you bought into the marketing. It's not worth it.

Your 100% right, I’m not sure where you have been researching but you know exactly what you are talking about.
No, he doesn't. You shouldn't be taking this stuff seriously. He's repeating things that he read on online forums, not legitimate orthodontic results.
 
AGGA, ALF, DNA... same shit. Different brands of snake oil.
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About a year and a half ago, I did research on MSE and looked at all of the before/after pictures available. None of them were particularly impressive. A lot of them looked as minimal as "mewing transformations".



You don't understand the difference between facts and speculation. All this is broscience speculation, not fact. MSE has minimal proven benefits and major drawbacks (lopsided and/or disproportionate face). The guy who did the biggest MSE movement looks like a cartoon character.

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Don't ruin your face because you bought into the marketing. It's not worth it.


No, he doesn't. You shouldn't be taking this stuff seriously. He's repeating things that he read on online forums, not legitimate orthodontic results.
you all just dont read what i say ☠️. "(lopsided and/or disproportionate face)" idiot thats why i said you do starecta and fix your posture. and logically you would need Alf or mse after you get starecta since you would have a flat midface, and that picture where that guy got a 24mm palatal expansion is actually very good. since. now all he needs is braces to fix his teeth and his airways are expanded so even better posture. and since his palate is gigawide itll be way easier to mew and get faster and better more harmonious forward growth and etc, he also could get ALF and further get a more vertically harmonious face. JESUS, its literally all so simple to understand. but you incels have so much recession in your face it actually never let your brain fully develop and. since your airways are utter garbage and probably more narrow than a pencil, you arent getting much oxygen into your brain to fully understand or comprehend what im saying you fucking morons:feelskek:
 
I can't believe this little sheeple retard dares to talk to me like that.

I'll make it very clear for you, dummy. I've done more research on it than your peanut brain could even fathom.
Where have I done this research, you might ask?


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Now let's look at your sources..

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I can't make this shit up. I suggest you look up the definition of con artists buddy, because if you keep going down this path any salesman looking to make a quick buck out of low sentience trash will more than willingly target your little janitor pockets
bro cant put 1 on 1 together☠️, you idiots would rather get a canthoplasty with a severely recessed face than get Alf or even MSE, i could actually try to help you explain and extremely dumb down everything but no☠️. Its so hard to take yall seriously☠️☠️☠️☠️, i cant even keep a straight face when i see the retarded responses yall give me☠️☠️☠️,yall also the same people who call mewing cope☠️☠️☠️☠️:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:☠️☠️☠️:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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ALF and Starecta are scams that do nothing. And you can't show me scientific evidence that they do anything because there is none.

So instead you write long ass paragraphs using all of your 5 Watts of brain power to try to come up with some shitty insult, all of that with bad formatting.
Did not read a letter.
alright buddy boyo, you win. orthodontic appliances are a scam:feelskek:
 
Unproven orthodontic appliances that are not recognized by the scientific community are scams.

Is that too much for your small brain to comprehend?
I could buy a piece of wire from Costco, mold it around my teeth, and call it an orthodontic appliance. And you would probably buy it.
omg, i actually kant ☠️
 
no
Are you going to explain how it works, with a credible source? Or are you going to keep spamming unsubstantiated trash and emojis?

Go ahead, explain it, stop dodging it.
you said it yourself buddy boyo☠️, they are a scam:feelskek:
 
MSE is one of the dumbest memes in the history of PSL. There is not a single truly impressive before/after, yet numerous people here are willing to have their faces become lopsided for the unclear benefits of an experimental procedure. Stupid stupid stupid.
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you all just dont read what i say ☠️. "(lopsided and/or disproportionate face)" idiot thats why i said you do starecta and fix your posture. and logically you would need Alf or mse after you get starecta since you would have a flat midface, and that picture where that guy got a 24mm palatal expansion is actually very good. since. now all he needs is braces to fix his teeth and his airways are expanded so even better posture. and since his palate is gigawide itll be way easier to mew and get faster and better more harmonious forward growth and etc, he also could get ALF and further get a more vertically harmonious face. JESUS, its literally all so simple to understand. but you incels have so much recession in your face it actually never let your brain fully develop and. since your airways are utter garbage and probably more narrow than a pencil, you arent getting much oxygen into your brain to fully understand or comprehend what im saying you fucking morons:feelskek:
You type like a complete spaz.

All of this shit is speculation, not fact. I'm not wasting my time pretending like your broscience is some kind of deep medical knowledge.

and that picture where that guy got a 24mm palatal expansion is actually very good.
He looks like Daffy Duck.
 
MSE is one of the dumbest memes in the history of PSL. There is not a single truly impressive before/after, yet numerous people here are willing to have their faces become lopsided for the unclear benefits of an experimental procedure. Stupid stupid stupid.
Just wondering, why does it cause asymmetry? I’m assuming that the palate itself is not asymmetric as it should be pretty simple to expand the palate in a way so that it’s symmetrical
 
Just wondering, why does it cause asymmetry? I’m assuming that the palate itself is not asymmetric as it should be pretty simple to expand the palate in a way so that it’s symmetrical
Nobody can say for certain, because it is a new procedure and it is not the kind of thing with an extensive record of being performed on adults. Adult MSE is fairly new and fairly experimental at this stage.

You can make a comparison between MSE and something like bimax: In bimax, your bones are cut and placed in a specific position, then screwed into place for healing. In MSE, on the other hand, you are gradually expanding in tiny amounts until your orthodontist decides you've had enough expansion. So while this is not a comprehensive explanation, it is a reasonable comparison of why MSE is less accurate than other treatment methods.
 
Nobody can say for certain, because it is a new procedure and it is not the kind of thing with an extensive record of being performed on adults. Adult MSE is fairly new and fairly experimental at this stage.

You can make a comparison between MSE and something like bimax: In bimax, your bones are cut and placed in a specific position, then screwed into place for healing. In MSE, on the other hand, you are gradually expanding in tiny amounts until your orthodontist decides you've had enough expansion. So while this is not a comprehensive explanation, it is a reasonable comparison of why MSE is less accurate than other treatment methods.
the guy Ronald interviewed said it's ortho malpractice, if it is installed properly there is never asymmetry
 
the guy Ronald interviewed said it's ortho malpractice, if it is installed properly there is never asymmetry
This is such a new and experimental procedure on adults that no one can confidently say that a side effect like increased asymmetry would never happen if done "properly". It seems intuitive that you cannot eliminate the possibility of increased asymmetry on faces that start out to varying degrees asymmetric.
 
This is such a new and experimental procedure on adults that no one can confidently say that a side effect like increased asymmetry would never happen if done "properly". It seems intuitive that you cannot eliminate the possibility of increased asymmetry on faces that start out to varying degrees asymmetric.
he said he only had one asymmetrical case and that was because he installed it improperly, after that no asymmetry in hundreds of cases
 
he said he only had one asymmetrical case and that was because he installed it improperly, after that no asymmetry in hundreds of cases
What does this even mean? He had people with perfectly symmetric faces that remained symmetric for their whole treatment? Or normal, slightly asymmetric faces that remained equally asymmetric for the entirety of the treatment? How do you even measure that kind of thing? This is propaganda.

Everyone who buys into this MSE bullshit is just drinking the Kool-Aid.
 

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