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This guy was anorexic during puberty. Look at how narrow his bone structure ended up being:
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And this is my point. Bone growth is all about caloric surplus and exercise during puberty.His bones still look small look at his forearms or hands
its all muscles
no good bone mass at all
its mostly genetics and then comes nutritionAnd this is my point. Bone growth is all about caloric surplus and exercise during puberty.
how do you know all this, especially that he was a mouthbreather?View attachment 1039419View attachment 1039420View attachment 1039422
And this guy was also borderline anorexic and if not actually anorexic with how little shits he gave during puberty jfl.
At age 10 began smoking marijuana, staying up all night, and sleeping in cemeteries. Grew up in impoverished hispanic community in El Paso Texas. Would only eat junk food, never played sports after age 10 when he wasn't allowed to due to his epilepsy. As a bonus he was also a mouthbreather jfl. 6'2 massive frame mogging the whole jury room
one of his family members made a book about him, netflix series etc.how do you know all this, especially that he was a mouthbreather?
are you his dad?
Well junk food is at least calories and again he still got up and used his body. I literally ldar in bed for most of my pubertyView attachment 1039419View attachment 1039420View attachment 1039422
And this guy was also borderline anorexic and if not actually anorexic with how little shits he gave during puberty jfl.
At age 10 began smoking marijuana, staying up all night, and sleeping in cemeteries. Grew up in impoverished hispanic community in El Paso Texas. Would only eat junk food, never played sports after age 10 when he wasn't allowed to due to his epilepsy. As a bonus he was also a mouthbreather jfl. 6'2 massive frame mogging the whole jury room
Yes it does. Why are most people who were anorexic during puberty have shitty frames? Obviously lack of adequate calories causes lack of proper growthLiterally doesnt debunk the premise of genetics at all rofl op is braindead
Yes you absolutely retarded baboon but that doesn't destroy the premise of genetics whatsoever, it just means growth can be stunted if severe enough but that says nothing about how genes determine the range in which happens or how big your frame can become to begin with. Btw most shitty framed ppl need less calories to begin with, correlation doesn't equal causation.H
Yes it does. Why are most people who were anorexic during puberty have shitty frames? Obviously lack of adequate calories causes lack of proper growth
I mean if you still don't believe its genetics idk what to tell you his nieceWell junk food is at least calories and again he still got up and used his body. I literally ldar in bed for most of my puberty
Ppl here need a biology class, dna is literally the building block of every living organism yet somehow it's completely cope when it comes to looks JFLI mean if you still don't believe its genetics idk what to tell you his niece View attachment 1039433 literally has the similar top tier bone structure like him. Sure environment matters to a degree, but its literally 90% or even 95% genetical. Unless you literally starve yourself with NOTHING to eat, absolutely nothing to eat it may stunt growth or it may not, I'd argue lack of sleep and sleep quality is more of a detriment to growth since sleep is when ur body secretes HGH and other hormones and ramirez literally slept in cemeteries for short times and still grew to 6'2 massive frame
Yeah, ramirez had insane fucking genetics, he never balded, had a full head of hair at later age. insane bone structure if he bothered looksmaxxing from young he'd be the best looking model ever and probably the pinnacle of looks even now. Even more of a testament is his niece bonemogging most of this forum because his genetics are so good jfl.Ppl here need a biology class, dna is literally the building block of every living organism yet somehow it's completely cope when it comes to looks JFL
Yeah, ramirez had insane fucking genetics, he never balded, had a full head of hair at later age. insane bone structure if he bothered looksmaxxing from young he'd be the best looking model ever and probably the pinnacle of looks even now. Even more of a testament is his niece bonemogging most of this forum because his genetics are so good jfl.
I mean if you still don't believe its genetics idk what to tell you his niece View attachment 1039433 literally has the similar top tier bone structure like him. Sure environment matters to a degree, but its literally 90% or even 95% genetical. Unless you literally starve yourself with NOTHING to eat, absolutely nothing to eat it may stunt growth or it may not, I'd argue lack of sleep and sleep quality is more of a detriment to growth since sleep is when ur body secretes HGH and other hormones and ramirez literally slept in cemeteries for short times and still grew to 6'2 massive frame
Cope like the pope. Genetics is 95 % of this game.Him sleeping in cemeteries doesn't mean he had bad sleep though. If anything it helped him sleep apparently JFL. When it comes to bones I think the reason Ramirez and his relatives have such good looking ones is because they ARE borderline anorexic.
He was anorexic during puberty. It’s proof that enviorment can play just as big of a role in the development of the body>its not all about genetics
>shows a genetic subhuman
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wtf I always assumed he was like 5'7"View attachment 1039419View attachment 1039420View attachment 1039422
And this guy was also borderline anorexic and if not actually anorexic with how little shits he gave during puberty jfl.
At age 10 began smoking marijuana, staying up all night, and sleeping in cemeteries. Grew up in impoverished hispanic community in El Paso Texas. Would only eat junk food, never played sports after age 10 when he wasn't allowed to due to his epilepsy. As a bonus he was also a mouthbreather jfl. 6'2 massive frame mogging the whole jury room
Honestly he was a dumbass because his childhood was rotten, no matter how gifted you are in looks or genetics a poor childhood with shitty parents will always destroy you, one of his family members killed someone in front of him, his dad was abusive, his mom dropped him when he was younger which caused his epilepsy, he was abused in his home so he slept in cemeteries. It's quite brutal to think that so little of your mentalcel issues you could control because most of our personality traits are formed at a younger age, same with self esteem etc. If he bothered to looks Max he would be the best looking man ever, he had godlike bones, frame and height + a dominant high t lookwtf I always assumed he was like 5'7"
what a dumbass, he legitimately could've modelled and owned the world instead of fucking his whole life up
as for the rest of the thread, it's both
it's always just both
you can find countless examples of environment fucking someone up and you can find countless examples of environment not fucking someone up.
like everything else in life it just depends on how lucky you got
It's because they were already fucked up from birth to begin with so they don't eat at all.Truecel is just like retardad kid and usually goes hand to hand.Mistake in system.It's just happens like that..H
Yes it does. Why are most people who were anorexic during puberty have shitty frames? Obviously lack of adequate calories causes lack of proper growth
I’ve yet to seen proof of thisMany bones grow till you are 30, plenty of time to gymmax.
He could atleast nichemaxx in the before picThat bear mode bloated look is so shit my god