Muhammad Ali a legend for this. They hated him so fucking much especially for this

[jm17]

He spoke the truth, big time. FYI he used to call these people white devils on national tv every time he’d be on a talk show getting interviewed

Unapologetically black excellence

 

[Deleted member 11758]

 

[Pythagoras]

Why do you always feel the need to have a subhuman as your avi?

 

[jm17]

.

 

[Yliaster]

The only people holding blck people back are themselves and other blck people

 

[jm17]

The only people holding blck people back are themselves and other blck people

Just like an automated robot using WS talking points.

must want some reps and attention from WS on here huh?

This was in 1968, man you faggots love spreading lies and playing word games.

Idk why cucks like u insist on playing the devils advocate, and spreading half truths and false narratives that weren’t even relevant in 1968

Keep playing word games and dancing around what he said u bitch.

this is the game u WS and wannabe WS play and has been playing ever since 1955, just lie and play word games and say shit that has no relevance to what was mentioned

I can’t respect a bitch like u who choose to play dumb and use automated robotic talking points, same thing how someone could mention how someone mention racism and people liek u start mentioning economic shit? Like wtf.

A blzck person could mention how some evil shit a white person did and a bitch like u a use that exact same talking point to take the attention off of the truth and to play words games.

A bitch like u get off on playing dumb ass word games like that and coming to black spaces go attempt to troll about serious shit huh

My issue is that’s ur response to this video, obviously a WS tactic to try and confuse and cover up the shit WS have did and do

 

[Biiyo03]

Biggest chads of all time

rip

 

[n0rthface]

WN like Mohammed Ali and Malcom X

 

[jm17]

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WN like Mohammed Ali and Malcom X

That’s false, and big lie. They hated them more than they hated Martin Luther king,

Holy fuck all you white people do is fucking lie lie and lie yo asses the fuck off,

There’s a reason they won’t even mention anything about Malcolm x in school at all, unless u have a WS teacher who want to say a few bad things bout him and that’s all.

I know too much history for a bitch like u to sit up here and try insult me by lying like a hoe. Get the fuck out of here, you’ve been lying like this for centuries constantly.

same thing how y’all lie about WS liking Martin Luther king, they hated him to, but not more than they hated Malcolm x and Muhammad Ali

 

[n0rthface]

That’s false, and big lie. They hated them more than they hated Martin Luther king,

Holy fuck all you white people do is fucking lie lie and lie yo asses the fuck off,

There’s a reason they won’t even mention anything about Malcolm x in school at all, unless u have a WS teacher who want to say a few bad things bout him and that’s all.

I know too much history for a bitch like u to sit up here and try insult me by lying like a hoe. Get the fuck out of here, you’ve been lying like this for centuries constantly.

same thing how y’all lie about WS liking Martin Luther king, they hated him to, but not more than they hated Malcolm x and Muhammad Ali

Malcom x and Mohammed ALI both disliked interracialism and wanted to be separated away from White people.As you can see in my photo, That’s George Rockwell attending a Malcom x nations of Islam rally.

“Black police watching over black neighbourhoods, Black mayors watching over black towns, Black judges keeping black communities safe.“

You don’t know shit boy

 

[jm17]

Malcom x and Mohammed ALI both disliked interracialism and wanted to be separated away from White people.As you can see in my photo, That’s George Rockwell attending a Malcom x nations of Islam rally.

“Black police watching over black neighbourhoods, Black mayors watching over black towns, Black judges keeping black communities safe.“

You don’t know shit boy

I seen the video of them saying they against that you dumb mf, but you sit up here and make up lies sprinkling sugar on shit saying “ WN loved malcom x and Muhammad Ali!”

now u wanna play word games. I’ve seen the videos of them being against it, not for the same reasons you white devils are though.

sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up boy.

y’all always looking to try to use a black figure to try and brainwash people into believing lies, or you twist a narrative.

jusr because a bitch showed up to a place like that doesn’t mean WN liked Malcolm x, Malcolm x met with the kkk before cuz they figured he was against integration and stuff, and wanted him to tell them where MLk was at so they can kill him and he said he doesn’t want anybody killing his people.

you don’t know absolutely anything and u look for any and every reason to spread a false narrative

 

[n0rthface]

I seen the video of them saying they against that you dumb mf, but you sit up here and make up lies sprinkling sugar on shit saying “ WN loved malcom x and Muhammad Ali!”

now u wanna play word games. I’ve seen the videos of them being against it, not for the same reasons you white devils are though.

sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up boy.

How are am I a devil?

Yall the ones that commit 50% of all murders in the US

 

[jm17]

How are am I a devil?

Yall the ones that commit 50% of all murders in the US

Typical WS narrative to try and paint black people a certain way, y’all put the drugs and guns in the community and targeted the black community on purpose, war on drugs + war on poverty to criminalize the black community,

you are a devil and devils advocate( both would be fitting) because people devils who think like u or worst tortured black people physically in ways u can’t think of and were very sadistic and still are which is why they hate when black people stand of for themselves, cuz if black people never started standing up for themselves , 100% of those evil things y’all used to do would still be going on, some of the things y’all still do, but y’all aren’t satisfied with it, u devils wanna go back to like 1940? 1778? Etc

White people have murdered hundred millions of people along with brutally torturing , and murdering some of them sometimes the torture would go on for days, y’all have raped millions of people, y’all think of the most sick and sadistic ways to torture people, this is why u are a demon and/or the devils advocate. No different than a demon who’d pull up on a horse and watch a black man get burnt alive for hours, etc etc. some devils still pass down their souvenirs from torture rally’s, lynching rally’s till this day. You people have 0 shame and no responsibility for the evils that y’all have committed generation after generation for no reason.
Y’all try y’all best to hide the true history to bitch.
get the fuck out of here

I wish every black person actually knew the truths and actually knew as much history as me.

you devils literally used to burn black people houses down while they were in it, and so called Christians used to burn black churches down while some black people were inside it? Like why the fuck are y’all this evil, y’all are the fucking subhuman savages . I’m sick of y’all lies, and I wish I had a big platform to expose all of what I know

 

[n0rthface]

Typical WS narrative to try and paint black people a certain way, y’all put the drugs and guns in the community and targeted the black community on purpose, war on drugs + war on poverty to criminalize the black community,

you are a devil and devils advocate( both would be fitting) because people devils who think like u or worst tortured black people physically in ways u can’t think of and were very sadistic and still are which is why they hate when black people stand of for themselves, cuz if black people never started standing up for themselves , 100% of those evil things y’all used to do would still be going on, some of the things y’all still do, but y’all aren’t satisfied with it, u devils wanna go back to like 1940? 1778? Etc

White people have murdered hundred millions of people along with brutally torturing , and murdering some of them sometimes the torture would go on for days, y’all have raped millions of people, y’all think of the most sick and sadistic ways to torture people, this is why u are a demon and/or the devils advocate. No different than a demon who’d pull up on a horse and watch a black man get burnt alive for hours, etc etc. some devils still pass down their souvenirs from torture rally’s, lynching rally’s till this day. You people have 0 shame and no responsibility for the evils that y’all have committed generation after generation for no reason.
Y’all try y’all best to hide the true history to bitch.
get the fuck out of here

I wish every black person actually knew the truths and actually knew as much history as me.

you devils literally used to burn black people houses down while they were in it, and so called Christians used to burn black churches down while some black people were inside it? Like why the fuck are y’all this evil, y’all are the fucking subhuman savages . I’m sick of y’all lies, and I wish I had a big platform to expose all of what I know

So genocide and murder is completely unique to White people

I’ve said it a few times now, why don’t you just go back to YOUR homeland?
Most white people who aren’t cucks don’t want to live around you, and you seem to share that sentiment.

 

[Ryan]

He spoke the truth, big time. FYI he used to call these people white devils on national tv every time he’d be on a talk show getting interviewed

Unapologetically black excellence

islammaxed chad

 

[Deleted member 14667]

Typical WS narrative to try and paint black people a certain way, y’all put the drugs and guns in the community and targeted the black community on purpose, war on drugs + war on poverty to criminalize the black community,

you are a devil and devils advocate( both would be fitting) because people devils who think like u or worst tortured black people physically in ways u can’t think of and were very sadistic and still are which is why they hate when black people stand of for themselves, cuz if black people never started standing up for themselves , 100% of those evil things y’all used to do would still be going on, some of the things y’all still do, but y’all aren’t satisfied with it, u devils wanna go back to like 1940? 1778? Etc

White people have murdered hundred millions of people along with brutally torturing , and murdering some of them sometimes the torture would go on for days, y’all have raped millions of people, y’all think of the most sick and sadistic ways to torture people, this is why u are a demon and/or the devils advocate. No different than a demon who’d pull up on a horse and watch a black man get burnt alive for hours, etc etc. some devils still pass down their souvenirs from torture rally’s, lynching rally’s till this day. You people have 0 shame and no responsibility for the evils that y’all have committed generation after generation for no reason.
Y’all try y’all best to hide the true history to bitch.
get the fuck out of here

I wish every black person actually knew the truths and actually knew as much history as me.

you devils literally used to burn black people houses down while they were in it, and so called Christians used to burn black churches down while some black people were inside it? Like why the fuck are y’all this evil, y’all are the fucking subhuman savages . I’m sick of y’all lies, and I wish I had a big platform to expose all of what I know

just go back to africa or whatever then lol the only reason blacks got enslaved and murdered is because they are weak

 

[ChristianChad]

He spoke the truth, big time. FYI he used to call these people white devils on national tv every time he’d be on a talk show getting interviewed

Unapologetically black excellence

Cassius Clay was a beautiful smart man
Very much non black
But Vietnam is a complicated

Malcom X was a great leader and one black people needed

 

[ChristianChad]

islammaxed chad

Islam fucked africa harder then european in Jihad and slave trade and for all that time they did not even advance them techologically like whites did

 

[Ryan]

Islam fucked africa harder then european in Jihad and slave trade and for all that time they did not even advance them techologically like whites did

keep cryin jfl..everyone knows who enslaved black nd as a result blacks r now cuckin them in their homelands

 

[ChristianChad]

keep cryin jfl..everyone knows who enslaved black nd as a result blacks r now cuckin them in their own homeland

bruh in the islamic slave trade the blacks werent traded by other blacks, they were taken
even if the blacks were Islamic
it was brutal

 

[Ryan]

bruh in the islamic slave trade the blacks werent traded by other blacks, they were taken
even if the blacks were Islamic
it was brutal

@ThatDjangoWalk look at this guyhe is givin us lecture on slave trade

 

[ChristianChad]

@ThatDjangoWalk look at this guyhe is givin us lecture on slave trade

Gabriel did not vist muhammad in his cave

 

[Ryan]

bruh in the islamic slave trade the blacks werent traded by other blacks, they were taken
even if the blacks were Islamic
it was brutal

having slave was not seen as bad in that era hence islam gave prohbition to keep slave while giving proper rights to them every culture had slaves if they were jews christians or muslims..nd nowhere in islam its written u must take black slaves u can buy slave from any race..u r making it racist by urself

 

[ChristianChad]

nd nowhere in islam its written u must take black slaves u can buy slave from any race..u r making it racist by urself

bruh im not worrying about racism. i know even slavs were slaves
its fucked up to own slaves, when europe abolished slavery it was still practiced until 1960s by islam

"proper rights" some slaves got their balls cut off and made eunuch
( @GripMaxxing )

 

[Ryan]

Gabriel did not vist muhammad in his cave

keep crying jfl..the things muhammad told us about jesus is same as historian and scholars are uncovring after 1400 years

 

[ChristianChad]

keep crying jfl..the things muhammad told us about jesus is same as historian and scholars are uncovring after 1400 years

like what brah
its like all those claim saying "bro there is modern science in quran he was so blessed omgg"

 

[Ryan]

bruh im not worrying about racism. i know even slavs were slaves
its fucked up to own slaves, when europe abolished slavery it was still practiced until 1960s by islam

"proper rights" some slaves got their balls cut off and made eunuch
( @GripMaxxing

jfl

 

[Ryan]

like what brah
its like all those claim saying "bro there is modern science in quran he was so blessed omgg"

read brad d erman he is not a muslim..according to him jesus never claimed divinity..nd its a fact jesus and his disciples were jews..nd u cant be a jew if u believe in trinity

 

[ChristianChad]

read brad d erman he is not a muslim..according to him jesus never claimed divinity..nd its a fact jesus and his disciples were jews..nd u cant be a jew if u believe in trinity

bruh they werent jews if they believed in his divinity, jews deny God by denying The Son
what kind of logic is that jfl

 

[ChristianChad]

jflView attachment 1310875

some arab nigger in 1690 = slavery from 700 AC - 1900 AC okay bro

 

[Ryan]

bruh they werent jews if they believed in his divinity, jews deny God by denying The Son
what kind of logic is that jfl

jfl u didnt get what i said..let me make u understand in simple words..u believe that u cant be a jew if u believe in jesus divinity right..now google the religion of peter and jesus

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

bruh in the islamic slave trade the blacks werent traded by other blacks, they were taken
even if the blacks were Islamic
it was brutal

Are you retarded? It is haram to enslave a fellow Muslim regardless of who they are. It’s literally a punishable offence to hold a Muslim slave

Also European slavery was based on race. Europeans saw Africans as inferior and therefore they believed they deserved to be enslaved

Muslims did not enslave people on race, rather they did so when they captured enemy territory. That’s why thousands of white slaves were captured in the Balkans during the Ottoman Empire

Also, if Muslims were so cruel to enslaved Africans, then why did a Moroccan man, who was the son of an enslaved woman, grow up to be the king of Morocco in the 17th century. Could you imagine a mixed or black king controlling a European empire during that time?

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

@ThatDjangoWalk look at this guyhe is givin us lecture on slave trade

First, May Allah guide him and us, when he speaks with me he is decent, don't be harsh with him.

About the subject, i made a comment some time ago comparing Islamic slavery and judeochristian slavery, based explicitly on scripture.

The concept of slavery in Islam is completely different from that of Judaism, Christianity, the western one and the ones of the rest of the world, including the arab world, which, in the vast majority of cases, are completely immoral.

First, The Prophet warned us that Allah will punish those who enslaved free people on the Day of Resurrection, essentially prohibiting the racial slave trade that was fueled by kidnapping, and only allowing to enslave captives of war after they were defeated, which, on the other hand was the most merciful response since the alternatives were either executing them, exchanging them with the enemy for muslim slaves or letting them go and allow them to counter-attack on the future.
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: 'Allah will oppose a man who sells a free person and consumes the price.'

Second, in Islam it is completely prohibited to beat or hurt a slave by direct orders of the Last Messenger of Allah, Muhammad: Zadhan Abl Umar reported: I came to Ibn 'Umar as he had granted freedom to a slave. He (the narrator further) said: He took hold of a wood or something like it from the earth and said: It (freedom of a slave) has not the reward evert equal to it, but the fact that I heard Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) say: "He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free."
This hadith (narration) has been also narrated through another chain of transmitters.

Suwaid ibn Muqarrin reported: Did you not know that it is forbidden to strike the face? I was the seventh of my brothers during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, and we had only one servant. One of us became enraged and slapped him, so the Messenger of Allah commanded us to set him free.

And Ammar ibn Yasir, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "None of you strikes his slave unjustly except that the slave will be granted retaliation on the Day of Resurrection."

Abu Mas’ud reported: I was beating a boy of mine when I heard a voice from behind me: Know, O Abu Mas’ud, that Allah has more power over you than you have over him. I turned around and it was the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have freed him for the sake of Allah.” The Prophet said: If you had not done so, you would have been burnt in the Hellfire.

Also adding to all of this, Allah in Al Qur'an is constantly encouraging the believers to free slaves (interpretation of the meaning): 'Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves;'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'And what may let you know what the good way is? Freeing slaves is the good way, or giving food on a day of hunger'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'Those of you who say such a thing to their wives, then go back on what they have said, must free a slave before the couple may touch one another again––this is what you are commanded to do, and God is fully aware of what you do––'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'The Sadaqāt (prescribed alms) are (meant) only to be given to the poor, the needy, to those employed to collect them, to those whose hearts are to be won, in the cause of the slaves and those encumbered with debt, in the way of Allah and to a wayfarer. This is an obligation prescribed by Allah. Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.'

And another one (interpretation of the meaning): 'Serve Allah . . . and do good - to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the Companion by your side, the way-farer (you meet), and what your right hands possess [i.e. your slaves]'

The Last Prophet of Allah (alayhi a salat wa salam) ordered good treatment and kindness to the believers in regards to their servants: Ma’rur ibn Suwaid reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him."

The Messenger of Allah said something similar according to other narration: "Feed them from the same food you eat and clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah the Exalted."

Abu Musa Al-Ashari reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Feed the hungry, visit the sick, and set the captives free."

A man who served for the Last Prophet of Allah said: "I served the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for ten years. By Allah, he never even said a mild rebuke to me and he never said harshly for anything: Why did you do that? Why did you not do that?"

Also, in Islam, the slave not only has tremendous rights which definetly surpass those of any other culture and is bound to be freed, he also has the God given right to buy his freedom, The One and Only Creator has clearly ordered to the one who has slaves in Al Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning): 'And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if you know any good in them; yes, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you.'


The Bible permits the beating of slaves in many verses, like for example this one in Exodus 21: 20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

This is also to be found in the New Testament, Luke 12: 47-48
"And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more."

Same with the selling of slaves according to Exodus 21: 7
“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.

Leviticus 25: 44
"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property."

There is also the famous verse of
Numbers 31: 17-18 which orders the slavery and rape of the female children of the Amalakites:
"Now kill all of the boys of the males and kill every woman who has known sexual relations of males. And every female child of women that has not known sexual relations of males save for yourselves."

Leviticus 19: 20
“If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free;"

The authors of the Bible for some reason put special emphasis in the obedience the slave must have towards his master and the rights of the master over the slave, while it barely speaks about the rights of the slave.

Peter 2: 18
"Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust."

Titus 2: 9-10
"Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior."

Colossians 3: 22-24
"Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

We could go on all day with these kind of verses.

There are weak recent christian allegations that the Bible was somehow at the end of the book promoting slowly the abolishment of slavery, claims which are easily disproven since it is a position that almost no christian scholars held before the 18-19th century.

Let us analyze for example this verse in Galatians 5: 1
"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery."

First and foremost these are words of Paul, not of Jesus, therefore their reliability is that of a potatoe since Paul was a man admonished and condemned by the own companions of Jesus, and also Paul himself gave orders to slaves in many verses on his writings. Second, this verse in complete context is referring as "slavery" to the laws of the Jews since supposedly, Paul was addressing some people and a group of Jews came and told them that they need to be circumcised, the next verse (Galatians 5: 2) says: "Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all."

 

[Biiyo03]

First, May Allah guide him and us, when he speaks with me he is decent, don't be harsh with him.

About the subject, i made a comment some time ago comparing Islamic slavery and judeochristian slavery, based explicitly on scripture.

The concept of slavery in Islam is completely different from that of Judaism, Christianity, the western one and the ones of the rest of the world, including the arab world, which, in the vast majority of cases, are completely immoral.

First, The Prophet warned us that Allah will punish those who enslaved free people on the Day of Resurrection, essentially prohibiting the racial slave trade that was fueled by kidnapping, and only allowing to enslave captives of war after they were defeated, which, on the other hand was the most merciful response since the alternatives were either executing them, exchanging them with the enemy for muslim slaves or letting them go and allow them to counter-attack on the future.
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: 'Allah will oppose a man who sells a free person and consumes the price.'

Second, in Islam it is completely prohibited to beat or hurt a slave by direct orders of the Last Messenger of Allah, Muhammad: Zadhan Abl Umar reported: I came to Ibn 'Umar as he had granted freedom to a slave. He (the narrator further) said: He took hold of a wood or something like it from the earth and said: It (freedom of a slave) has not the reward evert equal to it, but the fact that I heard Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) say: "He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free."
This hadith (narration) has been also narrated through another chain of transmitters.

Suwaid ibn Muqarrin reported: Did you not know that it is forbidden to strike the face? I was the seventh of my brothers during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, and we had only one servant. One of us became enraged and slapped him, so the Messenger of Allah commanded us to set him free.

And Ammar ibn Yasir, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "None of you strikes his slave unjustly except that the slave will be granted retaliation on the Day of Resurrection."

Abu Mas’ud reported: I was beating a boy of mine when I heard a voice from behind me: Know, O Abu Mas’ud, that Allah has more power over you than you have over him. I turned around and it was the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have freed him for the sake of Allah.” The Prophet said: If you had not done so, you would have been burnt in the Hellfire.

Also adding to all of this, Allah in Al Qur'an is constantly encouraging the believers to free slaves (interpretation of the meaning): 'Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves;'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'And what may let you know what the good way is? Freeing slaves is the good way, or giving food on a day of hunger'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'Those of you who say such a thing to their wives, then go back on what they have said, must free a slave before the couple may touch one another again––this is what you are commanded to do, and God is fully aware of what you do––'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'The Sadaqāt (prescribed alms) are (meant) only to be given to the poor, the needy, to those employed to collect them, to those whose hearts are to be won, in the cause of the slaves and those encumbered with debt, in the way of Allah and to a wayfarer. This is an obligation prescribed by Allah. Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.'

And another one (interpretation of the meaning): 'Serve Allah . . . and do good - to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the Companion by your side, the way-farer (you meet), and what your right hands possess [i.e. your slaves]'

The Last Prophet of Allah (alayhi a salat wa salam) ordered good treatment and kindness to the believers in regards to their servants: Ma’rur ibn Suwaid reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him."

The Messenger of Allah said something similar according to other narration: "Feed them from the same food you eat and clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah the Exalted."

Abu Musa Al-Ashari reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Feed the hungry, visit the sick, and set the captives free."

A man who served for the Last Prophet of Allah said: "I served the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for ten years. By Allah, he never even said a mild rebuke to me and he never said harshly for anything: Why did you do that? Why did you not do that?"

Also, in Islam, the slave not only has tremendous rights which definetly surpass those of any other culture and is bound to be freed, he also has the God given right to buy his freedom, The One and Only Creator has clearly ordered to the one who has slaves in Al Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning): 'And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if you know any good in them; yes, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you.'


The Bible permits the beating of slaves in many verses, like for example this one in Exodus 21: 20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

This is also to be found in the New Testament, Luke 12: 47-48
"And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more."

Same with the selling of slaves according to Exodus 21: 7
“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.

Leviticus 25: 44
"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property."

There is also the famous verse of
Numbers 31: 17-18 which orders the slavery and rape of the female children of the Amalakites:
"Now kill all of the boys of the males and kill every woman who has known sexual relations of males. And every female child of women that has not known sexual relations of males save for yourselves."

Leviticus 19: 20
“If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free;"

The authors of the Bible for some reason put special emphasis in the obedience the slave must have towards his master and the rights of the master over the slave, while it barely speaks about the rights of the slave.

Peter 2: 18
"Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust."

Titus 2: 9-10
"Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior."

Colossians 3: 22-24
"Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

We could go on all day with these kind of verses.

There are weak recent christian allegations that the Bible was somehow at the end of the book promoting slowly the abolishment of slavery, claims which are easily disproven since it is a position that almost no christian scholars held before the 18-19th century.

Let us analyze for example this verse in Galatians 5: 1
"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery."

First and foremost these are words of Paul, not of Jesus, therefore their reliability is that of a potatoe since Paul was a man admonished and condemned by the own companions of Jesus, and also Paul himself gave orders to slaves in many verses on his writings. Second, this verse in complete context is referring as "slavery" to the laws of the Jews since supposedly, Paul was addressing some people and a group of Jews came and told them that they need to be circumcised, the next verse (Galatians 5: 2) says: "Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all."

u are a true muslim not by the amount of information u know but by the way you treat people good even if they were rude with u or what not (christianchad wasnt but thats besides the point)

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

u are a true muslim not by the amount of information u know but by the way you treat people good even if they were rude with u or what not (christianchad wasnt but thats besides the point)

Shukran akhi (Thanks brother), May Allah make us improve our manners and ways.

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

jm lives in the past and still thinks its the 1960s or some shit
this is over bro

 

[ChristianChad]

Europeans saw Africans as inferior and therefore they believed they deserved to be enslaved

I wonder why this was
Africans shouldn't have been enslaved, they should have been helped. But never, ever held on the same level as white. They should have been given tools, medicine.
The state of Africa demonstrates why they cannot function in a proper society, at least not one that is similar to any Western civilization that has been established

 

[Ryan]

First, May Allah guide him and us, when he speaks with me he is decent, don't be harsh with him.

About the subject, i made a comment some time ago comparing Islamic slavery and judeochristian slavery, based explicitly on scripture.

The concept of slavery in Islam is completely different from that of Judaism, Christianity, the western one and the ones of the rest of the world, including the arab world, which, in the vast majority of cases, are completely immoral.

First, The Prophet warned us that Allah will punish those who enslaved free people on the Day of Resurrection, essentially prohibiting the racial slave trade that was fueled by kidnapping, and only allowing to enslave captives of war after they were defeated, which, on the other hand was the most merciful response since the alternatives were either executing them, exchanging them with the enemy for muslim slaves or letting them go and allow them to counter-attack on the future.
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: 'Allah will oppose a man who sells a free person and consumes the price.'

Second, in Islam it is completely prohibited to beat or hurt a slave by direct orders of the Last Messenger of Allah, Muhammad: Zadhan Abl Umar reported: I came to Ibn 'Umar as he had granted freedom to a slave. He (the narrator further) said: He took hold of a wood or something like it from the earth and said: It (freedom of a slave) has not the reward evert equal to it, but the fact that I heard Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) say: "He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free."
This hadith (narration) has been also narrated through another chain of transmitters.

Suwaid ibn Muqarrin reported: Did you not know that it is forbidden to strike the face? I was the seventh of my brothers during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, and we had only one servant. One of us became enraged and slapped him, so the Messenger of Allah commanded us to set him free.

And Ammar ibn Yasir, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "None of you strikes his slave unjustly except that the slave will be granted retaliation on the Day of Resurrection."

Abu Mas’ud reported: I was beating a boy of mine when I heard a voice from behind me: Know, O Abu Mas’ud, that Allah has more power over you than you have over him. I turned around and it was the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have freed him for the sake of Allah.” The Prophet said: If you had not done so, you would have been burnt in the Hellfire.

Also adding to all of this, Allah in Al Qur'an is constantly encouraging the believers to free slaves (interpretation of the meaning): 'Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves;'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'And what may let you know what the good way is? Freeing slaves is the good way, or giving food on a day of hunger'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'Those of you who say such a thing to their wives, then go back on what they have said, must free a slave before the couple may touch one another again––this is what you are commanded to do, and God is fully aware of what you do––'

Another verse (interpretation of the meaning): 'The Sadaqāt (prescribed alms) are (meant) only to be given to the poor, the needy, to those employed to collect them, to those whose hearts are to be won, in the cause of the slaves and those encumbered with debt, in the way of Allah and to a wayfarer. This is an obligation prescribed by Allah. Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.'

And another one (interpretation of the meaning): 'Serve Allah . . . and do good - to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the Companion by your side, the way-farer (you meet), and what your right hands possess [i.e. your slaves]'

The Last Prophet of Allah (alayhi a salat wa salam) ordered good treatment and kindness to the believers in regards to their servants: Ma’rur ibn Suwaid reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him."

The Messenger of Allah said something similar according to other narration: "Feed them from the same food you eat and clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah the Exalted."

Abu Musa Al-Ashari reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Feed the hungry, visit the sick, and set the captives free."

A man who served for the Last Prophet of Allah said: "I served the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for ten years. By Allah, he never even said a mild rebuke to me and he never said harshly for anything: Why did you do that? Why did you not do that?"

Also, in Islam, the slave not only has tremendous rights which definetly surpass those of any other culture and is bound to be freed, he also has the God given right to buy his freedom, The One and Only Creator has clearly ordered to the one who has slaves in Al Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning): 'And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if you know any good in them; yes, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you.'


The Bible permits the beating of slaves in many verses, like for example this one in Exodus 21: 20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

This is also to be found in the New Testament, Luke 12: 47-48
"And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more."

Same with the selling of slaves according to Exodus 21: 7
“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.

Leviticus 25: 44
"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property."

There is also the famous verse of
Numbers 31: 17-18 which orders the slavery and rape of the female children of the Amalakites:
"Now kill all of the boys of the males and kill every woman who has known sexual relations of males. And every female child of women that has not known sexual relations of males save for yourselves."

Leviticus 19: 20
“If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free;"

The authors of the Bible for some reason put special emphasis in the obedience the slave must have towards his master and the rights of the master over the slave, while it barely speaks about the rights of the slave.

Peter 2: 18
"Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust."

Titus 2: 9-10
"Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior."

Colossians 3: 22-24
"Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

We could go on all day with these kind of verses.

There are weak recent christian allegations that the Bible was somehow at the end of the book promoting slowly the abolishment of slavery, claims which are easily disproven since it is a position that almost no christian scholars held before the 18-19th century.

Let us analyze for example this verse in Galatians 5: 1
"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery."

First and foremost these are words of Paul, not of Jesus, therefore their reliability is that of a potatoe since Paul was a man admonished and condemned by the own companions of Jesus, and also Paul himself gave orders to slaves in many verses on his writings. Second, this verse in complete context is referring as "slavery" to the laws of the Jews since supposedly, Paul was addressing some people and a group of Jews came and told them that they need to be circumcised, the next verse (Galatians 5: 2) says: "Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all."

mashallah

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

I wonder why this was
Africans shouldn't have been enslaved, they should have been helped. But never, ever held on the same level as white. They should have been given tools, medicine.
The state of Africa demonstrates why they cannot function in a proper society, at least not one that is similar to any Western civilization that has been established

The state of Africa is the direct result of hundreds of years of colonialism. Are you just gonna ignore that?

 

[ChristianChad]

The state of Africa is the direct result of hundreds of years of colonialism. Are you just gonna ignore that?

if ur not memeing then its over

delusional

can you even hold this opinion without knowing nothing?

 

[jm17]

jm lives in the past and still thinks its the 1960s or some shit
this is over bro

See that’s what school made u believe by not teaching any black history at all, and telling u mlk was loved and came along and healed the racists heart( at that) and I’m pretty sure u aren’t racist I’m not catching that energy or vibes from u, but unfortunately we don’t live in a post racial society and coming from a privileged stand point as a white guy id think racism doesn’t exist anymore, 2020 woke me up to how serious it is( I knew it existed I just didn’t have a higher consciousness on it and didn’t know much history) like 90% of the history I learned was within the past year in a half and I know so much like I could be an historian.

there’s a reason I had to start digging in the backyard of these devils to see all what they did because of the stuff they still do, and you gotta understand I experienced racism, seen racism , witnessed it, if you lived in a black persons shoes and was normal ( not one of those weird ass dudes who hangout on 4chan all day and other websites like that” then you’d know, black people live in a different America than white people. Bet a 70 year old white person who wasn’t racist, didn’t play dumb, but didn’t engage in racism either, bet since they are privileged they prolly think racism isn’t that bad cuz it’s not happening to them, or their people.

if you actually try to understand and attempt to understand, I don’t think u are playing the devils advocate though, look at how many racist losers u see onlinec who aren’t even taught to be racist, there’s plenty of more who are taught and they are the reason for people who aren’t taught racism to buy into the racist ideals and join in by making up very good lies(cuz that’s what devils do very good)

this is why we call y’all privileged because of takes like that, until u step out of that bubble. Racism doesn’t effect you in any way shape or form, it effects the daily lives of black people everyday, you have racist employees in every industry to including hospitals.

but to not see racism after 2020 is more like a choice because anybody who doesn’t have anything black people can see this shit clearly even if they aren’t black.

truth is not much has changed, just cuz u got white boys who dick suck their favorite athletes, actors, and have a few black friends( who they say racist stuff behind their back) doesn’t mean anything

just cuz u have a few white girls who suck and fuck black guys don’t mean anything( u see how that creates more racist losers) and some of those girls are racist to( every black person knows a racist girl that used to suck dick) and this is why athletes get lied on for rape accusations.

imagine if we didn’t have phones to record people doing racist shit, and only like 5% of that sjit is caught on camera. Then we have people thinking it doesn’t exist.

its in full stride, only reason they aren’t doing as much physical evil shit is cuz a lot of them are cowards are scared of black people now cuz of the war on drugs they did, so they have to get a badge or target someone who looks like a nerd then when they are wrong they play like that person is starting stuff with them .


everything I put on here is the 100% truth. Even some black people get fooled by the lies of white people. It’s easy to be fooled.

in fact rewatch that video and when Muhammad Ali was at the mic going in , everything he said right there is steal relevant to that day, I watched tons of videos of him, Malcolm x and other black people who u prolly don’t know and a lot of the shit they said is still relevant

 

[johncruz12345]

See that’s what school made u believe by not teaching any black history at all, and telling u mlk was loved and came along and healed the racists heart( at that) and I’m pretty sure u aren’t racist I’m not catching that energy or vibes from u, but unfortunately we don’t live in a post racial society and coming from a privileged stand point as a white guy id think racism doesn’t exist anymore, 2020 woke me up to how serious it is( I knew it existed I just didn’t have a higher consciousness on it and didn’t know much history) like 90% of the history I learned was within the past year in a half and I know so much like I could be an historian.

there’s a reason I had to start digging in the backyard of these devils to see all what they did because of the stuff they still do, and you gotta understand I experienced racism, seen racism , witnessed it, if you lived in a black persons shoes and was normal ( not one of those weird ass dudes who hangout on 4chan all day and other websites like that” then you’d know, black people live in a different America than white people. Bet a 70 year old white person who wasn’t racist, didn’t play dumb, but didn’t engage in racism either, bet since they are privileged they prolly think racism isn’t that bad cuz it’s not happening to them, or their people.

if you actually try to understand and attempt to understand, I don’t think u are playing the devils advocate though, look at how many racist losers u see onlinec who aren’t even taught to be racist, there’s plenty of more who are taught and they are the reason for people who aren’t taught racism to buy into the racist ideals and join in by making up very good lies(cuz that’s what devils do very good)

this is why we call y’all privileged because of takes like that, until u step out of that bubble. Racism doesn’t effect you in any way shape or form, it effects the daily lives of black people everyday, you have racist employees in every industry to including hospitals.

but to not see racism after 2020 is more like a choice because anybody who doesn’t have anything black people can see this shit clearly even if they aren’t black.

Actual schizo man...

No one obsesses over "black excellence" this much

Go get a fcking life bro

 

[Beetlejuice]

Based

 

[jm17]

Actual schizo man...

No one obsesses over "black excellence" this much

Go get a fcking life bro

Shut yo projecting bitch ass up. Ain’t nobody a fucking schizo but u and the bitch ass cowards you hangout with on here daily nigga. I’m not one of y’all, like that chinese boy bigdiink

you just a hating ass bitch from China who choose to put yo 2 cents in without thinking.

shut yo fucking mouth muthafuka I already thought I dealt with yo punk ass already u bitch.

I’m tryna educate dumb bitch mfs like u. Shut that shit up boy.

Learn to fucking read, yoy don’t like a black man talking to yo bitch ass like this and telling u the truth about things either. Btw a Chinese boy would never try the shit y’all do over there in China to blacks in America because I personally would dog yo ass and other niggas would to, unless u got a badge to protect yo hoe ass like that bitch thao chao

You like a obedient subservient negro whose gonna go along with lies to try to kiss some ass and lick some boots to fit in.

Get the fuck off my thread boy

 

[johncruz12345]

Shut yo projecting bitch ass up. Ain’t nobody a fucking schizo but u and the bitch ass cowards you hangout with on here daily nigga. I’m not one of y’all, like that chinese boy bigdiink

you just a hating ass bitch from China who choose to put yo 2 cents in without thinking.

shut yo fucking mouth muthafuka I already thought I dealt with yo punk ass already u bitch.

I’m tryna educate dumb bitch mfs like u. Shut that shit up boy.

I'm mexican bro...

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

See that’s what school made u believe by not teaching any black history at all, and telling u mlk was loved and came along and healed the racists heart( at that) and I’m pretty sure u aren’t racist I’m not catching that energy or vibes from u, but unfortunately we don’t live in a post racial society and coming from a privileged stand point as a white guy id think racism doesn’t exist anymore, 2020 woke me up to how serious it is( I knew it existed I just didn’t have a higher consciousness on it and didn’t know much history) like 90% of the history I learned was within the past year in a half and I know so much like I could be an historian.

there’s a reason I had to start digging in the backyard of these devils to see all what they did because of the stuff they still do, and you gotta understand I experienced racism, seen racism , witnessed it, if you lived in a black persons shoes and was normal ( not one of those weird ass dudes who hangout on 4chan all day and other websites like that” then you’d know, black people live in a different America than white people. Bet a 70 year old white person who wasn’t racist, didn’t play dumb, but didn’t engage in racism either, bet since they are privileged they prolly think racism isn’t that bad cuz it’s not happening to them, or their people.

if you actually try to understand and attempt to understand, I don’t think u are playing the devils advocate though, look at how many racist losers u see onlinec who aren’t even taught to be racist, there’s plenty of more who are taught and they are the reason for people who aren’t taught racism to buy into the racist ideals and join in by making up very good lies(cuz that’s what devils do very good)

this is why we call y’all privileged because of takes like that, until u step out of that bubble. Racism doesn’t effect you in any way shape or form, it effects the daily lives of black people everyday, you have racist employees in every industry to including hospitals.

but to not see racism after 2020 is more like a choice because anybody who doesn’t have anything black people can see this shit clearly even if they aren’t black.

truth is not much has changed, just cuz u got white boys who dick suck their favorite athletes, actors, and have a few black friends( who they say racist stuff behind their back) doesn’t mean anything

just cuz u have a few white girls who suck and fuck black guys don’t mean anything( u see how that creates more racist losers) and some of those girls are racist to( every black person knows a racist girl that used to suck dick) and this is why athletes get lied on for rape accusations.

imagine if we didn’t have phones to record people doing racist shit, and only like 5% of that sjit is caught on camera. Then we have people thinking it doesn’t exist.

its in full stride, only reason they aren’t doing as much physical evil shit is cuz a lot of them are cowards are scared of black people now cuz of the war on drugs they did, so they have to get a badge or target someone who looks like a nerd then when they are wrong they play like that person is starting stuff with them .


everything I put on here is the 100% truth. Even some black people get fooled by the lies of white people. It’s easy to be fooled.

in fact rewatch that video and when Muhammad Ali was at the mic going in , everything he said right there is steal relevant to that day, I watched tons of videos of him, Malcolm x and other black people who u prolly don’t know and a lot of the shit they said is still relevant

you have a weird way of phrasing things that makes your messages hardly understanble
anyway everyone in the us seems to be race obsessed so if you tell me there is racism I believe you
I was mainly thinking about shit like segregation and whatnot who don't exist anymore but if you mean plain and simple racism then it exists everywhere to some degree so I believe you

 

[Boxingfan]

 

[Basedprincess]

So many paragraphs in this thread

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

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WN like Mohammed Ali and Malcom X