Muscle is cope for women unless u r clearly super skinny and malnourished

[FiendFiend]

This is for people who are 19+ so if ur some pubertycel going thru puberty, go lift maximize ur puberty, eat in a leanbulk, and what not.

But as I gymcelled, I realized even with visible abs now, my face just midway thru my gymcelling journey at 62kg, where i was 13% bf. Mogs me now at 67 kilos.

The photos get more matches, more reciprication on dating apps.

Dont get me wrong, muscle helps u delude urself , be more confident, more confrontational, and can make u more confident, as well as a deeper voice and what not because u are properly nourished. It is absolutely a good cope, good for developing even if your crainofacial structure by eating more food.

But once u start hitting your 20s u have to realize, it will either be face or physique. U will be grinding out for muscle, deluding yourself women want that. They dont. You can run any experiment, even a MTN guy with fluffy hair will get more matches than the ogre on the right, even if he had proper photos like i did. Women want a good face over everything.

 

[Mooglesan]

Water tbh

 

[incomplete]

water

 

[FiendFiend]

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This is for people who are 19+ so if ur some pubertycel going thru puberty, go lift maximize ur puberty, eat in a leanbulk, and what not.

But as I gymcelled, I realized even with visible abs now, my face just midway thru my gymcelling journey at 62kg, where i was 13% bf. Mogs me now at 67 kilos.

The photos get more matches, more reciprication on dating apps.

Dont get me wrong, muscle helps u delude urself , be more confident, more confrontational, and can make u more confident, as well as a deeper voice and what not because u are properly nourished. It is absolutely a good cope, good for developing even if your crainofacial structure by eating more food.

But once u start hitting your 20s u have to realize, it will either be face or physique. U will be grinding out for muscle, deluding yourself women want that. They dont. You can run any experiment, even a MTN guy with fluffy hair will get more matches than the ogre on the right, even if he had proper photos like i did. Women want a good face over everything.

this doesnt mean u should be like 51kg btw. Dont take it as that. It means u should have a couple kilos or pounds of muscle but then be lean.

like bieber

 

[zygosmasher]

Face will always matter more just don’t be above 20% bodyfat

 

[FiendFiend]

Face will always matter more just don’t be above 20% bodyfat

be below 15% bf imo, bread and butter

 

[zygosmasher]

be below 15% bf imo, bread and butter

Yeah but most normies aren’t even capable of that so if you’re under 20 you’re still “fine”

I think 12% should be the standard for everyone

 

[FiendFiend]

Yeah but most normies aren’t even capable of that so if you’re under 20 you’re still “fine”

I think 12% should be the standard for everyone

i know people outside r giga subhuman, if u wanna really really stick out tho, in public, dating apps, be sub 15%, ideally 12-13%, thats where I was and I look phenomenal. Abs , veins, face was so chisled. I just had a more later term pubery and my face structure is still changing and developing so Im gonna keep eating in a surplus, lifting and sticking to being around 16% bf. But for sure Ill cut down when I need to. maybe in a couple months.

 

[zygosmasher]

i know people outside r giga subhuman, if u wanna really really stick out tho, in public, dating apps, be sub 15%, ideally 12-13%, thats where I was and I look phenomenal. Abs , veins, face was so chisled. I just had a more later term pubery and my face structure is still changing and developing so Im gonna keep eating in a surplus, lifting and sticking to being around 16% bf. But for sure Ill cut down when I need to. maybe in a couple months.

Im on a demon cut right now like 800 cal a day I went from 70kg to 60kg in like 2-3 months

 

[Vannx]

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This is for people who are 19+ so if ur some pubertycel going thru puberty, go lift maximize ur puberty, eat in a leanbulk, and what not.

But as I gymcelled, I realized even with visible abs now, my face just midway thru my gymcelling journey at 62kg, where i was 13% bf. Mogs me now at 67 kilos.

The photos get more matches, more reciprication on dating apps.

Dont get me wrong, muscle helps u delude urself , be more confident, more confrontational, and can make u more confident, as well as a deeper voice and what not because u are properly nourished. It is absolutely a good cope, good for developing even if your crainofacial structure by eating more food.

But once u start hitting your 20s u have to realize, it will either be face or physique. U will be grinding out for muscle, deluding yourself women want that. They dont. You can run any experiment, even a MTN guy with fluffy hair will get more matches than the ogre on the right, even if he had proper photos like i did. Women want a good face over everything.

im super skinny

 

[FiendFiend]

im super skinny

thats horrible u should lift then. U should aim for the bieber physique, being too skinny is just a niche thing, just how gymcels r niche for foids, for ideal appeal u need the bieber physque, as well as for ideal health and nutrition

 

[Vannx]

thats horrible u should lift then. U should aim for the bieber physique, being too skinny is just a niche thing, just how gymcels r niche for foids, for ideal appeal u need the bieber physque, as well as for ideal health and nutrition

i will try senpai

 

[FiendFiend]

Im on a demon cut right now like 800 cal a day I went from 70kg to 60kg in like 2-3 months

thats probably too much, should have done reta, lifted maybe added a SARM like ostarine to help u cut. Too extreme of a cut imo. I was 52kg and i benefited a lot being 62kg, dont throw away the baby with the bath water, u need a bieber level physique, if u take a pic of urself with the back camera and u dont have it, ur fucked gg