MUSCLES ARE IMPORTANT TO GIRLS!!! (With evidence and sources, high effort, GTFIH!!! ) Mid effort

[bluebandz]

If you want to dnr just say dnr so i can get a bump, if i have more reps left ill rep u!!
Disclaimer:
By no means am I claiming that all females or any member of a race, sex, or gender will all share the same opinions. This thread is meant to figure out the opinions on the average or common opinions and values.

There is a concerning amount of COPERS on this forum that claim muscles do NOT matter and as long as your not fat and have a relatively low BF % it is fine.
By NO means am i saying that muscle makes a HUGE difference, BUT it can definitely boost your smv.
OF COURSE most women don’t know anything about bones, harmony and possibly even coloring!
However, it becomes apparent that women DO know that they care about muscles.
This is shown in these studies:

Men’s Bodily Attractiveness: Muscles as Fitness Indicators - PMC

Bodily attractiveness is an important component of mate value. Musculature—a crucial component of men’s bodily attractiveness—provides women with probabilistic information regarding a potential mate’s quality. Overall musculature is comprised of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://bonytobeastly.com/most-attractive-male-body-survey-results/ (not that credible)
https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/women-drawn-to-men-with-muscles-idUSN09290845/ (UCLA STUDY)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ons-women-and-men-both-care-about-big-muscles (not that credible of a source but shows a common consensus)

Thanks for reading bhais, don’t forget to rep!!​

 

[Gudlifer]

no muscles for your face unless you want a low e sub5 woman and are simultaneously willing to destroy your health by any metrics.
if you got a good face a good body's a nice extra but if youre below the threshold facially, muscles wont save you

 

[superpoppop]

what kind of argument is this bro
"women dont know colouring/bones/harmony" sure maybe they dont but they see it. humans are born to subconciously analyze attractiveness from birth.

 

[Subhumanclassic]

its not the muscles bro its the face they don't want a jacked ltn gymcel they want a twink chad

 

[Escanor1]

no muscles for your face unless you want a low e sub5 woman and are simultaneously willing to destroy your health by any metrics.
if you got a good face a good body's a nice extra but if youre below the threshold facially, muscles wont save you

is this a good test i might try this what app ?

 

[bluebandz]

no muscles for your face unless you want a low e sub5 woman and are simultaneously willing to destroy your health by any metrics.
if you got a good face a good body's a nice extra but if youre below the threshold facially, muscles wont save you

yes that’s the point of the thread
muscles boost your smv

what kind of argument is this bro
"women dont know colouring/bones/harmony" sure maybe they dont but they see it. humans are born to subconciously analyze attractiveness from birth.

That’s literally what I am saying. Obviously they know subconsciously that the person with better bones looks better a lot of the time, they just don’t know why they look better.

 

[bluebandz]

its not the muscles bro its the face they don't want a jacked ltn gymcel they want a twink chad

A girl will always pick the chad with muscles over the chad without them.

 

[accinr]

no muscles for your face unless you want a low e sub5 woman and are simultaneously willing to destroy your health by any metrics.
if you got a good face a good body's a nice extra but if youre below the threshold facially, muscles wont save you

this

 

[bluebandz]

this

read my reply jfl
i’m not saying muscles are more important than the face, but it’s an easy smv boost.

 

[accinr]

read my reply jfl
i’m not saying muscles are more important than the face, but it’s an easy smv boost.

not an smv boost for the majority
below 6ft and htn its just a massive waste of time

 

[bluebandz]

not an smv boost for the majority
below 6ft and htn its just a massive waste of time

it’s not though lol. Having a good physique will boost your smv and I have multiple studies to back that up that are linked. I agree that face is more important, but it’s not just one or the other

 

[peter1287]

What girls like is always subjective unfortunately

 

[accinr]

it’s not though lol. Having a good physique will boost your smv and I have multiple studies to back that up that are linked. I agree that face is more important, but it’s not just one or the other

i can guarantee you that those men already have an above average height/face
im not disagreeing with the fact that it does boost smv but only for a select few
if youre below 5'10 and have an average-below average face there is no smv boost women will be repulsed by you and they will see past your overcompensation for genetic inferiority

 

[reyik]

muscles often signal strength and the ability to protect

 

[leedlee]

yeah they might not know whatever terminology you want to use, but they realise the difference between facial structures subconsciously
muscles do obviously help but nowhere near the extent that your saying as your argument depends on "women not understanding harmony" when they subconsciously realise it lmao

 

[bluebandz]

What girls like is always subjective unfortunately

yeah absolutely, this thread was just meant to be general. your correct.

i can guarantee you that those men already have an above average height/face
im not disagreeing with the fact that it does boost smv but only for a select few
if youre below 5'10 and have an average-below average face there is no smv boost women will be repulsed by you and they will see past your overcompensation for genetic inferiority

women would be less repulsed. In almost any situation it will boost your smv because it is a fitness indicator. This is how we biologically work. I appreciate the fact that your sticking by your point though, your high iq even though your wrong here

yeah they might not know whatever terminology you want to use, but they realise the difference between facial structures subconsciously
muscles do obviously help but nowhere near the extent that your saying as your argument depends on "women not understanding harmony" when they subconsciously realise it lmao

lol yeah this is exactly what i was saying jfl

 

[accinr]

women would be less repulsed. In almost any situation it will boost your smv because it is a fitness indicator. This is how we biologically work. I appreciate the fact that your sticking by your point though, your high iq even though your wrong here

thank you, agree to disagree

 

[leedlee]

lol yeah this is exactly what i was saying jfl

i guess but why even say this

OF COURSE most women don’t know anything about bones, harmony and possibly even coloring!
However, it becomes apparent that women DO know that they care about muscles.

who cares if they "care about muscles" consciously, that means nothing because they still care about bones harmony and colouring but they just bundle it all into "looks" because they dont give a shit about incel terminology. i agree with the rest of your thread but this just adds nothing / reduces from your point

 

[bluebandz]

i guess but why even say this

who cares if they "care about muscles" consciously, that means nothing because they still care about bones harmony and colouring but they just bundle it all into "looks" because they dont give a shit about incel terminology. i agree with the rest of your thread but this just adds nothing / reduces from your point

i don’t fully understand what your tryna say. Essentially the point of me adding in all the other looks stuff was saying that they subconsciously like that, which is why we don’t have as many studies. However, they consciously know that bigger muscles are more attractive to an extent. Basically the point of the thread was ltn with muscles wins over ltn.

 

[leedlee]

i don’t fully understand what your tryna say. Essentially the point of me adding in all the other looks stuff was saying that they subconsciously like that, which is why we don’t have as many studies. However, they consciously know that bigger muscles are more attractive to an extent. Basically the point of the thread was ltn with muscles wins over ltn.

idk why we are arguing about some semantics when we both agree on the same point essentially
my bad bro

 

[bluebandz]

idk why we are arguing about some semantics when we both agree on the same point essentially
my bad bro

haha no worries I probably worded it wrong

 

[bluebandz]

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[bluebandz]

If you want to dnr just say dnr so i can get a bump, if i have more reps left ill rep u!!
Disclaimer:
By no means am I claiming that all females or any member of a race, sex, or gender will all share the same opinions. This thread is meant to figure out the opinions on the average or common opinions and values.

There is a concerning amount of COPERS on this forum that claim muscles do NOT matter and as long as your not fat and have a relatively low BF % it is fine.
By NO means am i saying that muscle makes a HUGE difference, BUT it can definitely boost your smv.
OF COURSE most women don’t know anything about bones, harmony and possibly even coloring!
However, it becomes apparent that women DO know that they care about muscles.
This is shown in these studies:

Men’s Bodily Attractiveness: Muscles as Fitness Indicators - PMC

Bodily attractiveness is an important component of mate value. Musculature—a crucial component of men’s bodily attractiveness—provides women with probabilistic information regarding a potential mate’s quality. Overall musculature is comprised of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://bonytobeastly.com/most-attractive-male-body-survey-results/ (not that credible)
https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/women-drawn-to-men-with-muscles-idUSN09290845/ (UCLA STUDY)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ons-women-and-men-both-care-about-big-muscles (not that credible of a source but shows a common consensus)

Thanks for reading bhais, don’t forget to rep!!​

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[PolishTrucell]

i agree but with shitty personal evidence. This one girl I talk to said she likes multiple guys who were ltns but were very muscular. They def make people more dimorphic which leads to more sexual interest. Its better to have them then not fa sho