Muscular man = Woman with a hot body

[Lonely]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.

 

[true_subhuman_here]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way

did your mama tell you that?

 

[asdvek]

Not necessarily. Healthy women are naturally like that in their default state whereas men aren't.

 

[Lonely]

Not necessarily. Healthy women are naturally like that in their default state whereas men aren't.

Sorta true but that’s basically universal. Men have to build value, women exist with it.

 

[gymcel64]

Doesn't happen to me buddy.

 

[Lonely]

Doesn't happen to me buddy.

Either you’re short or ugly or not lean

 

[Societal Reject]

Foids dont care about body only face and height

 

[asdvek]

Sorta true but that’s basically universal. Men have to build value, women exist with it.

Men don't have to build value. You either have it or not. (basically you're either attractive without trying or not)

 

[Lonely]

Foids dont care about body only face and height

Cope

 

[Lonely]

Men don't have to build value. You either have it or not. (basically you're either attractive without trying or not)

Bullshit lmfao. Making money is building value. Attaining status is building value. Retarded to think looking good is all there is to it.

 

[Jué]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.

Tell me your face is ugly without actually saying your face is ugly

 

[Lonely]

Tell me your face is ugly without actually saying your face is ugly

I’m a beautiful mid

 

[asdvek]

Bullshit lmfao. Making money is building value. Attaining status is building value. Retarded to think looking good is all there is to it.

You're redpilled lol

 

[jueishfoidrpsit]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.

No shirt sherlock

 

[Andremln]

Physical attractiveness: the influence of selected torso parameters - PubMed

Front-view line drawings of male and female physiques were rated for attractiveness. Both subject sexes rated female physiques with greater curvature as less attractive. Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size while female subjects showed slight negative evaluation of large...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For women the effect of seeing broad shoulders on men is even stronger than how we feel seeing big breasts on women, i believe that a long torso is much more aesthetically pleasing as well, having a long lumbar area is a hunter trait and as we know attraction is heavily linked to the perceived hunting success in males, not to be confused with fighting success, completely different things and traits.

I think that hypertrophy can help significantly balancing proportions depending on your base build but we need to be realistic and not exaggerate our expectations regarding what we can achieve, the most important factor is your skeleton, not trying to bring down your point or saying that the gym is 100% cope, but for some people it just wont do shit

 

[Lonely]

You're redpilled lol

If you’re not a teenager life sorta forces you to be

The guys that get the most pussy aren’t guys who JUST look good it’s rich, high status men

 

[asdvek]

If you’re not a teenager life sorta forces you to be

The guys that get the most pussy aren’t guys who JUST look good it’s rich, high status men

I'll tell you the same thing I've said to another user here before

"Attraction is a primal, biological response. It's an involuntary, burning feeling a woman has for a man that signals he is a superior candidate for reproduction.

It cannot be negotiated, bought, or faked. Money facilitates a business deal, not desire.

A man with wealth can purchase a woman's time and compliance, but he can never purchase her raw, uncontrollable attraction.

She isn't with him, she's with his wallet. He is a resource to be used, nothing more.

A woman's presence can be bought, but her desire is earned through physical attraction.

Money, wealth, cool cars, fancy rich clothes etc. are bullshit for truly attracting a female."

 

[Lonely]

Physical attractiveness: the influence of selected torso parameters - PubMed

Front-view line drawings of male and female physiques were rated for attractiveness. Both subject sexes rated female physiques with greater curvature as less attractive. Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size while female subjects showed slight negative evaluation of large...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For women the effect of seeing broad shoulders on men is even stronger than how we feel seeing big breasts on women, i believe that a long torso is much more aesthetically pleasing as well, having a long lumbar area is a hunter trait and as we know attraction is heavily linked to the perceived hunting success in males, not to be confused with fighting success, completely different things and traits.

I think that hypertrophy can help significantly balancing proportions depending on your base build but we need to be realistic and not exaggerate our expectations regarding what we can achieve, the most important factor is your skeleton, not trying to bring down your point or saying that the gym is 100% cope, but for some people it just wont do shit

Yep, I remembered reading about this. Thanks for linking it.

It’s insane how important it is. I’ve seen women lick their lips and visibly blush when I walk around in a tank top lmao.

It’s common sense. Boobs are just there for breastfeeding and demonstrate good fertility and development whereas shoulders and muscularity simultaneously demonstrate good development and health AND the ability to get shit done which is obviously very important for female attraction

 

[Lonely]

I'll tell you the same thing I've said to another user here before

"Attraction is a primal, biological response. It's an involuntary, burning feeling a woman has for a man that signals he is a superior candidate for reproduction.

It cannot be negotiated, bought, or faked. Money facilitates a business deal, not desire.

A man with wealth can purchase a woman's time and compliance, but he can never purchase her raw, uncontrollable attraction.

She isn't with him, she's with his wallet. He is a resource to be used, nothing more.

A woman's presence can be bought, but her desire is earned through physical attraction.

Money, wealth, cool cars, fancy rich clothes etc. are bullshit for truly attracting a female."

Every woman’s romance novel and fantasy is about a man with money and power choosing her, because wealth and power and status in and of themselves are attractive lol

 

[Sacrimoon]

Absolute water.

Anyone who says otherwise are just stupid.

 

[Lonely]

Absolute water.

Anyone who says otherwise are just stupid.

Clearly not water to these 15 year old twinks jfl

 

[asdvek]

Every woman’s romance novel and fantasy is about a man with money and power

No ??

Their romance novel and fantasy is getting roughly fucked by a tall and slender bad boy most of the time

Not sure where you got that from

 

[ltngreyy]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.

Dnr

 

[Lonely]

No ??

Their romance novel and fantasy is getting roughly fucked by a tall and slender bad boy most of the time

Not sure where you got that from

You’re wrong

50 Shades of Grey is just one example

But the genre is full of this stuff lol

It’s either

1. A high status, dominant, rich man
2. A low status but rebellious, capable and thus still dominant man (outcast)

So both powerful in their own way

 

[Andremln]

Yep, I remembered reading about this. Thanks for linking it.

It’s insane how important it is. I’ve seen women lick their lips and visibly blush when I walk around in a tank top lmao.

It’s common sense. Boobs are just there for breastfeeding and demonstrate good fertility and development whereas shoulders and muscularity simultaneously demonstrate good development and health AND the ability to get shit done which is obviously very important for female attraction

True, i would even go to say that depending on the situation your frame can be just as important as your face, this is when women are high/drunk, they return to their basic primitive mode and what starts to matter more to attract them is how lean/angular/forward grown you are + the size of your skeleton so wrists, skull and scapula dominate in the club, because of very low light environment plus being dizzy your facial harmony and ratios kind of erase

 

[a1ad3nn]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.

Gymcel cope

 

[Sacrimoon]

Clearly not water to these 15 year old twinks jfl

Yeah idk how you can deny body having a play in sexual attraction.

 

[Topkra]

True
Are you even looksmaxxing if you aren't in the gym?

 

[Lonely]

Gymcel cope

If you could look like a “gymcel” at the press of a button you’d do it yesterday

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

"women with wide hips big tits and asses (natural built in things from high female hormones and good genetics) therefore the male equivalent is unnatural tumor muscles bloated from stressing them enough!"

So true, you're so smart, not like the male equivalent is wide clavicles, thin waist, good scapula and muscle insertions which are also natural built in things from high male hormones and good genetics

What even is gymcel redpilltard logic lmao @asdvek

 

[Lonely]

True, i would even go to say that depending on the situation your frame can be just as important as your face, this is when women are high/drunk, they return to their basic primitive mode and what starts to matter more to attract them is how lean/angular/forward grown you are + the size of your skeleton so wrists, skull and scapula dominate in the club, because of very low light environment plus being dizzy your facial harmony and ratios kind of erase

Very true. The more hookup oriented the setting the more primal markers matter. But this isn’t a great thing honestly, I don’t think those sorts of things are fulfilling.

 

[asdvek]

You’re wrong

50 Shades of Grey is just one example

But the genre is full of this stuff lol

It’s either

1. A high status, dominant, rich man
2. A low status but rebellious, capable and thus still dominant man (outcast)

So both powerful in their own way

Log out for me rq retard

 

[Jué]

Every woman’s romance novel and fantasy is about a man with money and power choosing her, because wealth and power and status in and of themselves are attractive lol

Keep coping, it's simply over

 

[Sprinkles]

When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.

he needs height + frame too

 

[Lonely]

"women with wide hips big tits and asses (natural built in things from high female hormones and good genetics) therefore unnatural tumor muscles bloated from stressing them enough are equally as attractive!"

So true, you're so smart, not like the male equivalent is wide clavicles, thin waist, good scapula and muscle insertions which are also natural built in things from high male hormones and good genetics

What even is gymcel redpilltard logic lmao @asdvek

Doesn’t matter

A woman can give the impression of a good “natural” body (whatever the fuck that means lmao, as if people are born with the ideal physique) through the gym. A bigger ass, smaller hips, better ratios, bigger legs etc

In the same way, a man can do the same

You’re just a lazy bitch

 

[Lonely]

he needs height + frame too

Yeah it’s a multiplicative thing

 

[Lonely]

Log out for me rq retard

The quality of users on this forum is in the gutter these days

 

[Lonely]

Yeah idk how you can deny body having a play in sexual attraction.

True
Are you even looksmaxxing if you aren't in the gym?

It’s just laziness lmfao

 

[asdvek]

The quality of users on this forum is in the gutter these days

You're a dogshit quality user JFL you're a nobody

Go to a redpill forum you faggot this place is not for you

 

[Lonely]

You're a dogshit quality user JFL you're a nobody

Go to a redpill forum you faggot this place is not for you

Jfl can’t believe I’m arguing with a 14 year old fag

 

[asdvek]

Jfl can’t believe I’m arguing with a 14 year old fag

You're a fag

You're compensating with mooscles, you're an insecure gymcel

 

[Lonely]

You're a fag

You're compensating with mooscles, you're an insecure gymcel

I mog the shit out of you in literally every way dawg

You’d do well listening to my advice

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Doesn’t matter

A woman can give the impression of a good “natural” body (whatever the fuck that means lmao, as if people are born with the ideal physique) through the gym. A bigger ass, smaller hips, better ratios, bigger legs etc

No, they can't. When a woman goes to the gym she gets a male v taper body (due to nuked fertility) with some weird hard muscly angular ass. Nothing like a naturally estrogenic body built with fat and bones

In the same way, a man can do the same

The gym is never gonna make this guy's body

Look like this guy's body. Not even remotely close. Keep coping.

 

[asdvek]

I mog the shit out of you in literally every way dawg

You’d do well listening to my advice

This broke homeless skinny junkie man got millions of fan girls

All because of his looks ...

Would an ugly gymcel with money get the same fame?

I can't even believe im arguing with a redpill coping faggot sissy on a blackpill forum

You're the definition of a sissy retarded cunt

 

[Lonely]

No, they can't. When a woman goes to the gym she gets a male v taper body (due to nuked fertility) with some weird hard muscly angular ass. Nothing like a naturally estrogenic body built with fat and bones

The gym is never gonna make this guy's body
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Look like this guy's body. Not even remotely close. Keep coping.
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No she doesn’t LMFAO

Go to a gym for once in your life and look at the girls. Almost all of them are hot. Literally none of them besides maybe a handful tops who are on roids or doing some dumb shit look manly.

Anyways, both these guys would be better off with 20kg muscle in the right areas no matter what, and even if we use niche examples of guys with bad frames, so what? lol. I can show you a nigga with acid thrown on his face and say “SEE SKINCARE DOESNT WORK!”

 

[Lonely]

Ok

This broke homeless skinny junkie man got millions of fan girls

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All because of his looks ...

Would an ugly gymcel with money get the same fame?

I can't even believe im arguing with a redpill coping faggot sissy on a blackpill forum

You're the definition of a sissy retarded cunt

post face and physique and slays?

Why don’t we compare my redpill Strat to your blackpill Strat?

 

[asdvek]

Ok

post face and physique and slays?

> No argument

It's over for you sissy

Also you fucking whores that get passed around have ZERO value or meaning.

You're an insecure sissy cuck compensating with muscles because deep down you're a little faggot.

 

[Lonely]

> No argument

It's over for you sissy

Also you fucking whores that get passed around have ZERO value.

You're an insecure sissy faggot compensating with muscles because deep down you're a little faggot.

Okay so you admit your dogshit strategy of MUH PSL GODS is retarded as fuck because it offers 0 value to the average guy, which is why you won’t post yourself or your successes with women. Got it.

 

[Andremln]

Very true. The more hookup oriented the setting the more primal markers matter. But this isn’t a great thing honestly, I don’t think those sorts of things are fulfilling.

Yeah me neither, me personally i don't go to the gym since i was just lucky to get a good skeleton, i responded very well to testosterone levels during puberty, the bad thing is that i have very low harmony and look too low trust, my eyes are very deep set, forehead is short and my browridge gives me the shadow on my eyes even on normal daylight but my mandible and maxilla are recessed and downgrown, so the upper third looks very well developed while my lower third fucking sucks, next year i am getting DJS with CCW rotation to correct this bullshit so we will see what happens

I have noticed this pattern as well, i have good success with women that fit the whore pheno personality wise, especially at the club, but i stopped going out a while ago because even though i was conditioned by the forum and previous experiences to expect that love is not real like on a metaphysical level, i really crave affection, i want to protect a girl and kind of get close to feeling what i used to believe love actually was as a kid

 

[LooksOrDeath]

No ??

Their romance novel and fantasy is getting roughly fucked by a tall and slender bad boy most of the time

Not sure where you got that from

They literally banned billionaire romance reels in China cause of how effective they were on making women stay celibate