Muscular man = Woman with a hot body

Yeah me neither, me personally i don't go to the gym since i was just lucky to get a good skeleton, i responded very well to testosterone levels during puberty, the bad thing is that i have very low harmony and look too low trust, my eyes are very deep set, forehead is short and my browridge gives me the shadow on my eyes even on normal daylight but my mandible and maxilla are recessed and downgrown, so the upper third looks very well developed while my lower third fucking sucks, next year i am getting DJS with CCW rotation to correct this bullshit so we will see what happens

I have noticed this pattern as well, i have good success with women that fit the whore pheno personality wise, especially at the club, but i stopped going out a while ago because even though i was conditioned by the forum and previous experiences to expect that love is not real like on a metaphysical level, i really crave affection, i want to protect a girl and kind of get close to feeling what i used to believe love actually was as a kid
You sound a little similar to me, although not fully. You have a low trust pheno, and would do well exhibiting evil, dark or otherwise undesirable traits, which are quite desirable to women in those contexts, because it meshes well with the assumptions people would make about you whilst looking at you.

But yeah, good on you for avoiding those sorts of environments. It’s not fulfilling. I think men generally are the romantic gender and we want that, and that guys who wanna slay are just coping or fucked up mentally.
 
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Okay so you admit your dogshit strategy of MUH PSL GODS is retarded as fuck because it offers 0 value to the average guy, which is why you won’t post yourself or your successes with women. Got it.
Hes treating this forum like just a blackpill forum not a blackpill + looksmaxxing forum
 
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Men have to build value, women exist with it.
Cope for sub htn men who were never blessed with looks to begin with
 
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> No argument

It's over for you sissy

Also you fucking whores that get passed around have ZERO value or meaning.

You're an insecure sissy cuck compensating with muscles because deep down you're a little faggot.
"oh you think going to the gym is useless? heh i bet you don't have a gymcelled body, post physique bro!"
:feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh:
 
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Hes treating this forum like just a blackpill forum not a blackpill + looksmaxxing forum
Yeah

You can be Blackpilled and still do something about it lol

If some guy had wide shoulders and a tiny waist naturally, complaining about it won’t do anything, but training your delts and getting lean will create the same effect lol
 
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Cope for sub htn men who were never blessed with looks to begin with
HTN+ men are usually popular, athletic, hard working, competent guys lmfao

Do you guys ever go outside?

Do you seriously think you can be handsome…and just get money and privileges for existing like women do?
 
If some guy had wide shoulders and a tiny waist naturally, complaining about it won’t do anything, but training your delts and getting lean will create the same effect lol
99% of guys can get a v taper by losing weight and working out
 
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"oh you think going to the gym is useless? heh i bet you don't have a gymcelled body, post physique bro!"
:feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh:
no it’s just evidence his world view is dogshit because it leads to…nothing
 
99% of guys can get a v taper by losing weight and working out
Exactly. Even if you have a dogshit frame, having a dogshit frame with good muscle will always beat a skinny dogshit frame lol
 
HTN+ men are usually popular, athletic, hard working, competent guys lmfao

Do you guys ever go outside?

Do you seriously think you can be handsome…and just get money and privileges for existing like women do?
yes nigga, never heard of this guy called "jeremy meeks"?
or like literally any male model to ever exist?
 
water, when i was freshly 16 i was just two weeks into the gym, and had a school trip on a sailboat. physique was really small in retrospect but i played sports all my life, and only one person (my best friend there) mogged me in physique (higher bf but way more mass & muscle mass, bicep mogger) but same tier facially (LHTN) and we were all chilling in the jacuzzi topless. So were the girls. They were ALL anticipating my friends naked body it was pretty brutal. But he ended up getting banned from swimming or entering the jacuzzi cuz of low inhib behavior against the milf teacher.

The rest of the guys were all LTNs, the most competition i ended up having was a tall HLTN. As soon as the girls saw me in the jacuzzi i saw them all give long ass stares. Funny thing was i was literally like 51 kg, everyone else was in the 50s, but all of them were skinny fat or high bf%. I was always like 11-12% , and immediately girls that didnt feel me before started asking me hella questions and staring at my abs brutally long. I was the only guy with abs there (brutal) and my 5’4 youngcel cutecel latino homie told me ‘stop flexing your abs bro’ ‘youre not marlon’. My ego went through the roof JFL The following days me and the girls in the jacuzzi started talking & months later and even now the girl i was talking to and was staring at me still has a crush on me and stalks me @ school and tells other girls about my abs year round (preselection W🤑🤑🤑), leading to me to even more access to mtb pussy in every grade 9-12

idk if im fucking with hrade 9s next year though i aint a super senior typa guy
 
yes nigga, never heard of this guy called "jeremy meeks"?
or like literally any male model to ever exist?
Why are teenagers on this forum obsessed with 1/10000 exceptions and not the millions of hot guys who aren’t getting signed up to modelling agencies and need jobs?
 
Exactly. Even if you have a dogshit frame, having a dogshit frame with good muscle will always beat a skinny dogshit frame lol
skinny fat is dogshit. skinny lean is to an extent, like a girl with a smaller ass but a very good shape
 
They literally banned billionaire romance reels in China cause of how effective they were on making women stay celibate
Those gook whores don't mean anything u retard they're malnourished so their retarded brain doesn't work

Show me an instance where that happened in a first world country
"oh you think going to the gym is useless? heh i bet you don't have a gymcelled body, post physique bro!"
:feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh: :feelsuhh:
I didn't even see that this faggot asked me to post my physique :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: I mog him untrained as I have wide clavicle n ribcage
 
You sound a little similar to me, although not fully. You have a low trust pheno, and would do well exhibiting evil, dark or otherwise undesirable traits, which are quite desirable to women in those contexts, because it meshes well with the assumptions people would make about you whilst looking at you.

But yeah, good on you for avoiding those sorts of environments. It’s not fulfilling. I think men generally are the romantic gender and we want that, and that guys who wanna slay are just coping or fucked up mentally.
Yes, i would prefer to look high trust 100x times though, not only because of the romantic halo, i don't think that women are either 100% whores or trad, i believe that everyone has a mix of both, but your archetype might attract one more than the other and i don't care too much about ONS as i said, but also, the career path that i am seeking kind of needs you to have a high trust face while being able to act on dark triad behavior (finance, i am going to applied math)

If i could choose to reincarnate in the body of someone else it would probably be James Franco or Josh Harnett tbh they got that perfect mix of both worlds
 
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When women see a man with muscles they feel the same way you feel when you see a girl with a nice ass, legs, hip to waist ratio and boobs. You probably get hard and feel horny. Women get wet and feel horny. If your face is at least MTN you will 100% get thirsted over especially if you’re decently vascular and lean on top of having good muscle.
Too much muscle = that overly fake plastic surgery botched look on a female body

IMG 8145

Jacob elordi in this picture would be a good example of what would be close to optimal for female attraction.
 
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Those gook whores don't mean anything u retard they're malnourished so their retarded brain doesn't work

Show me an instance where that happened in a first world country
50 shades features a CEO
It Ends With Us has a rich doctor
The Love Hypothesis has a high ranked Stanford Professor
Court of thorns and roses has a High lord ruler
 
Either you’re short or ugly or not lean
I'm lean as hell I accidentally lost 4kg in like 5 month, I am 180cm in a non-Nordic country so objectively not short and arguably MTN but my low self-esteem doesn't let me rate myself objectively.
 
Too much muscle = that overly fake plastic surgery botched look on a female body

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Jacob elordi in this picture would be a good example of what would be close to optimal for female attraction.
Getting to this point isn’t exactly easy
 
Height and size. Only muscles that do excited women are abs
 
No she doesn’t LMFAO

Go to a gym for once in your life and look at the girls. Almost all of them are hot. Literally none of them besides maybe a handful tops who are on roids or doing some dumb shit look manly.
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Anyways, both these guys would be better off with 20kg muscle in the right areas no matter what
No. Then you go beyond a natural point and your muscles just look like abnormal tumors. Once you snap out of it you can't unsee it
and even if we use niche examples of guys with bad frames, so what? lol. I can show you a nigga with acid thrown on his face and say “SEE SKINCARE DOESNT WORK!”
point is that it doesn't change anything for anyone and you act like it will give you the same results as some guy who naturally has good clavicles waist and everything else. that not only is cope but when you have inflamed muscles you look round and not angular... combine that with a shit frame, lol
 
HTN+ men are usually popular, athletic, hard working, competent guys lmfao

Do you guys ever go outside?

HTN+ men literally get pursued by women for merely existing

It means jackshit if they do any of what you listed above; they attract female attention regardless


Do you seriously think you can be handsome…and just get money and privileges for existing like women do?
This has nothing to do with my point

Im simply saying htn+ men get attention and desire from girls as they are

They dont need to "build themselves" just to get noticed by women, they'd already been getting noticed their whole life

Having to "build yourself" to get noticed by females means you didn't have the looks to get noticed naturally.
 
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HTN+ men literally get pursued by women whilist just existing jfl

It means jackshit if they do any of what you listed above; they attract female attention regardless



This has nothing to do with my point

I am simply saying htn+ men are desireable to females for just existing

They dont need money or anything else and they still have female attention following them wherever they go
Imagine coming on .ORG out of all the places in the internet, just to cope with “Muh looks ain’t everything” :feelsuhh:

Anyone who says that should be instabanned.
He seems to be too dumb to realize that even though HTN prob wouldn’t be able to capitalize of off sex alone (unless he faggotmaxxes) he can still be betabuxxed by a Becky Or even make bank from simply recording himself and posting it online.

Broke HTNs are insanely retarded.
I have one in my family and I despise him, he is like 35 and still moggs most 20yearolds. But he wasted his youth and looks on unstable relationships with ugly, mentally ill and broke ass women he had to betabuxx himself.

If I was him, I would be a gigolo to some old lady IDGAF. The privilege would be milked even If I’m too old for social mediamaxxing.
 
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Imagine coming on .ORG out of all the places in the internet, just to cope with “Muh looks ain’t everything” :feelsuhh:

Anyone who says that should be instabanned.
He seems to be too dumb to realize that even though HTN prob wouldn’t be able to capitalize of off sex alone (unless he faggotmaxxes) he can still be betabuxxed by a Becky Or even make bank from simply recording himself and posting it online.

Broke HTNs are insanely retarded.
I have one in my family and I despise him, he is like 35 and still moggs most 20yearolds. But he wasted his youth and looks on unstable relationships with ugly, mentally ill and broke ass women he had to betabuxx himself.

If I was him, I would be a gigolo to some old lady IDGAF. The privilege would be milked even If I’m too old for social mediamaxxing.
Joined April 2,2024
 

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