Muslim brah commands allah to destroy a nigga over skipping a prayer

[Mogs Me]

Black brah in the back fucking stressing cuz he skipped de prayer also and they finna check the cams or sum

Nigga thinks he is getting sent back to building de pyramids again

@Swarthy Knight @Jattdontcare @JasGews69x

 

[OhSeeDeeCel]

It's over for muslimbrah!

 

[nobodylovesme]

Religion of peace

 

[Mogs Me]

Religion of peace

Typa look me and JATT gonna have to give @JasGews69x for posting this race bait and jatt saying that comment before he releases his high t Muslim rage on us

@Jattdontcare blud hating like he wasn’t also talking about converting weeks ago

You can even have harems of BBW’s

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

Most peaceful muslim brotha.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

crazy how humans can become so brainwashed to believe in things they didnt even see.

 

[Deleted member 45735]

Most peaceful muslim brotha.

id be mad at muslims too if my pakistani brothers genocided me icl

 

[Deleted member 45735]

crazy how humans can become so brainwashed to believe in things they didnt even see.

niggas will say this then believe theres someone out there who will love them

 

[JasGews69x]

crazy how humans can become so brainwashed to believe in things they didnt even see.

What, like your brain?
Morals
Evolution
Science
etc

 

[Deleted member 45735]

id be mad at muslims too if my pakistani brothers genocided me icl

niggas will say this then believe theres someone out there who will love them

 

[JasGews69x]

 

[VampyrMaxx]

What, like your brain?
Morals
Evolution
Science
etc

I used to be muslim. You're wasting your time. But feel free to prove me wrong.

I feel like religion is an attempt to stray humans away from using empiricism, and to enslave them (by making them believe power is bad).

(And I didn't claim to belive any of what you said above)

 

[JasGews69x]

I used to be muslim. You're wasting your time. But feel free to prove me wrong.

ok

I feel like religion is an attempt to stray humans away from using empiricism, and to enslave them (by making them believe power is bad).

'i feel like' are you are foid?

Can you prove empiricism is true?
Do you have any empirical evidence to validate this claim?

What is good or bad?
Can you prove good or bad exist empirically?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Its actually crazy how religion used to drive me into extreme behavior and thoughts, because I believed I was going to go to hell or that God wouldn't care/love for me anymore, JFL.

What is good or bad?
Can you prove good or bad exist empirically?

Nature doesn't have morals. When a snake eats a mouse, the snake feels joy, the mouse suffers and dies. The mouse is innocent, but if the snake doesn't eat it, it will then die. Tragic realism.

 

[JasGews69x]

Its actually crazy how religion used to drive me into extreme behavior and thoughts, because I believed I was going to go to hell or that God wouldn't care/love for me anymore, JFL.

What standard are you using to determine something as extreme?
Emotional argument - this is not based on logical reasoning.
How does this make Islam false?

Nature doesn't have morals. When a snake eats a mouse, the snake feels joy, the mouse suffers and dies. The mouse is innocent, but if the snake doesn't eat it, it will then die. Tragic realism.

'I feel like religion is an attempt to stray humans away from using empiricism, and to enslave them (by making them believe power is bad).'

You used the word 'bad' which is a moral claim and now you're saying nature doesnt have morals...
Which one is it?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Can you prove empiricism is true?
Do you have any empirical evidence to validate this claim?

As for proving empiricism, you run into a circularity, because in order to prove empiricism, you would have to collect empirical evidence. You would also have to assume the validity of your senses/induction.

 

[Deleted member 268817]

based.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

What standard are you using to determine something as extreme?
Emotional argument - this is not based on logical reasoning.
How does this make Islam false?


'I feel like religion is an attempt to stray humans away from using empiricism, and to enslave them (by making them believe power is bad).'

You used the word 'bad' which is a moral claim and now you're saying nature doesnt have morals...
Which one is it?

In my metric extreme thoughts are ones that make you act out in an emotional way, without logic behind it. Blind belief in a way.

For example, I missed Isha once and I started hyperventilating because I thought I was going to go to hell. But there is no evidence Jahanam even exists, so its irrational to start crying out of fear.

I said that the slaves believe that power is immoral, not that I believe that power is bad/immoral.

 

[JasGews69x]

As for proving empiricism, you run into a circularity, because in order to prove empiricism, you would have to collect empirical evidence. You would also have to assume the validity of your senses/induction.

Bruh - you said 'its crazy how people are brainwashed into believing in things they cant see' or something like that

You're contradicting yourself

Are you arguing for or against empiricism?

In my metric extreme thoughts are ones that make you act out in an emotional way.

Ok
But i can reject this since im not required to accept it and it is flawed

Emotional reaction doesnt equal to being extreme:
Crying is normal but doesnt mean its 'extreme' - also crying over grief is not extreme

Also, extreme beliefs can produce no emotion such as planning to k*ll people in a logical manner

What is the problem with being extreme?

For example, I missed Isha once and I started hyperventilating because I thought I was going to go to hell. But there is no evidence Jahanam even exists, so its irrational to start crying out of fear.

Bruh - Islam is about balance, both fear and hope
Allah is the most merciful and will forgive but also severe in punishment

Why did you miss Isha? Was it by accident or intentional?

What is your standard for evidence?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Bruh - you said 'its crazy how people are brainwashed into believing in things they cant see' or something like that

You're contradicting yourself

Are you arguing for or against empiricism?

Fair point.

Empiricism's unprovable part, is just trusting your senses. It's the best tool for understanding the physical world. Do you have any other solution?

The difference is that you are making statements about the physical world without proof, but what I count as truth can be tested. Science. (That doesn't mean I believe in evolution and things along those lines; I consider those to be ultra-religious if anything)

When I want to prove and understand something, I gather evidence for it. But there is no evidence religion is true, so how can I believe in it? According to your world view, that would be God's fault.

Emotional reaction doesnt equal to being extreme:
Crying is normal but doesnt mean its 'extreme' - also crying over grief is not extreme

Also, extreme beliefs can produce no emotion such as planning to k*ll people in a logical manner

What is the problem with being extreme?

Having an emotional reaction isn't always extreme. But having an emotional reaction to a belief (with no proof) is extreme, which you completely brushed off.

Why did you miss Isha? Was it by accident or intentional?

I layed down in my bed and shut my eyes, but I accidentally fell asleep, but I knew there was a likely chance of me falling asleep, but I still took the chance. So when I woke up for Fajr I realized what happened. So its kinda both ig (but mostly my fault)

As for evidence, I want science and logic.

The only thing that Islam has to offer when it comes to evidence is the following.

1. The linguistic miracle of the Quran

Just because something is written elegantly, or symbols/words/ayat are arranged in a certain "elegant" sequence, doesn't mean that the Quran is therefore from God. You could theorize that the Quran is the word of God due to its structure, but you can't verify it. So it's just a theory in that sense.

2. Prophecies

Just because someone makes a prophecy about the future, and it comes true, doesn't mean it comes from a divine origin.

For example, if I say that Senegal will beat Egypt, and that happens, does it mean it was divine enlightenment.

No, it might be divine, it might not be, it's just a theory.

But the thing is that Islam makes a lot of prophecies about the future and it makes it hard to believe it's a coincidence.

But I could then theorize an alternate mechanism for how these prophecies ended up becoming true. It's all theory, and unfalsifiable at the end of the day.

3. Scientific miracles

Same reasoning as number 2

Other evidences like preservation, prophet muhammads life and character, impact of islam, qurans consistency with previous texts, are mostly non arguments, and fallacies because we can't be sure that the past happened in the way that is written in the books (history).

 

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@iblamechico is a Muslim