Muslim bro, go pray Fajr at mosque

[Deleted member 10987]

Its so relaxing, atmosphere is amazing

 

[crosshold]

yea it really is, i wish i were religious

 

[Deleted member 10987]

yea it really is, i wish i were religious

Not too late to join

 

[crosshold]

Not too late to join

cant force faith bro. i grew up muslim but i just dont feel the connection anymore

 

[Deleted member 10987]

cant force faith bro. i grew up muslim but i just dont feel the connection anymore

One day you will find the path again

 

[Deleted member 9344]

cant force faith bro. i grew up muslim but i just dont feel the connection anymore

Same tbh, I'm on a spectrum from Agnostic to Deist. Not really a Muslim anymore.

 

[crosshold]

Same tbh, I'm on a spectrum from Agnostic to Deist. Not really a Muslim anymore.

same, i dont believe nor deny the existence of god. i really just dont know lol

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Same tbh, I'm on a spectrum from Agnostic to Deist. Not really a Muslim anymore.

Hope you find the path

 

[Deleted member 9344]

Hope you find the path

I don't think I ever will, tbh. I'm the non-converting type.

 

[Deleted member 9344]

Hope you find the path

Also, I'm not a full atheist. I'm more of a deist. I just think some parts of Islam are full of shit & bad for civilizational progress. (I still do kind of believe there some forms of higher beings though).

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Also, I'm not a full atheist. I'm more of a deist. I just think some parts of Islam are full of shit & bad for civilizational progress. (I still do kind of believe there some forms of higher beings though).

Like what ?

 

[Deleted member 9344]

Like what ?

Like praying 5x a day, wearing wearing black burkas head to toe, etc. There's more as well, I just can't think of it right now.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Like praying 5x a day, wearing wearing black burkas head to toe, etc. There's more as well, I just can't think of it right now.

Man since when did you become a deist? Like did it happen on this forum? Did somebody persuade you here?

 

[Deleted member 10913]

cant force faith bro. i grew up muslim but i just dont feel the connection anymore

Man since when did you become a deist? Like did it happen on this forum? Did somebody persuade you here?

 

[Deleted member 9344]

Man since when did you become a deist? Like did it happen on this forum? Did somebody persuade you here?

I was an Agnostic/Deist even before I joined this forum. I left Islam in 2018 (around 3 years ago).

 

[Deleted member 10913]

I was an Agnostic/Deist even before I joined this forum. I left Islam in 2018 (around 3 years ago).

What was the most compelling argument for you to leave?

 

[Deleted member 9344]

What was the most compelling argument for you to leave?

I left out of doubt.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

I left out of doubt.

That's it? Man i sincerly hope you return. İf what you get in return isn't better then what you doubt on then is not worth the effort.

Last question. Do you have doubt against your doubt? For it's reasonable to have them?

 

[Deleted member 9344]

That's it? Man i sincerly hope you return. İf what you get in return isn't better then what you doubt on then it's not worth the effort.

Last question. Do you have doubt against your doubt? For it's reasonable to have them?

I don;t know if I will ever return (since I'm surrounded by Muslims). I'm just going to stay Agnostic/Deist as of now. I don't doubt my doubts either, I am convinced in them. It's reasonable to have them. Btw, are you Muslim or agnostic? & do you live in the West.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

I don;t know if I will ever return (since I'm surrounded by Muslims). I'm just going to stay Agnostic/Deist as of now. I don't doubt my doubts either, I am convinced in them. It's reasonable to have them. Btw, are you Muslim or agnostic? & do you live in the West.

Prophet SWS was kinda like an deist before revelation

 

[Deleted member 9344]

Prophet SWS was kinda like an deist before revelation

Yeah I know. I think most prophets were.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Btw, are you Muslim or agnostic? & do you live in the West.

İ am a Muslim from Turkey.

Prophet SWS was kinda like an deist before revelation

He was religious tho. He followed the Hanif creed. Deizm is accepting God but rejecting divine intervention. There is no prophet who have ever been of this believe. They where theists. This means accepting God and divine intervention.

I don;t know if I will ever return (since I'm surrounded by Muslims).

Sincerly hope you return man.

It's reasonable to have them

Should also be sensible to doubt your doubts. İf you doubt about an answer second thing you do is doubting if your doubt is reasonable. You gave 5 times a prayer as an example but i can't see why remembering your creator is meaningless? This is the whole reason of İslam. You may think or argue that it's bad for 'civilization' however our whole civilization is based upon remember God. So hope you atleast understand that this doesn't come as a strong argument.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

İ am a Muslim from Turkey.

He was religious tho. He followed the Hanif creed. Deizm is accepting God but rejecting divine intervention. There is no prophet who have ever been of this believe. They where theists. This means accepting God and divine intervention.


Sincerly hope you return man.


Should also be sensible to doubt your doubts. İf you doubt about an answer second thing you do is doubting if your doubt is reasonable. You gave 5 times a prayer as an example but i can't see why remembering your creator is meaningless? This is the whole reason of İslam. You may think or argue that it's bad for 'civilization' however our whole civilization is based upon remember God. So hope you atleast understand that this doesn't come as a strong argument.

Hanif ?
You mean tawhid ?

 

[Deleted member 9344]

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İ am a Muslim from Turkey.

He was religious tho. He followed the Hanif creed. Deizm is accepting God but rejecting divine intervention. There is no prophet who have ever been of this believe. They where theists. This means accepting God and divine intervention.


Sincerly hope you return man.


Should also be sensible to doubt your doubts. İf you doubt about an answer second thing you do is doubting if your doubt is reasonable. You gave 5 times a prayer as an example but i can't see why remembering your creator is meaningless? This is the whole reason of İslam. You may think or argue that it's bad for 'civilization' however our whole civilization is based upon remember God. So hope you atleast understand that this doesn't come as a strong argument.

I'll think about it. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Hanif ?
You mean tawhid ?

İt was a pre islamic creed of tawhid.

Ḥanīf (Arabic: حنيف‎, ḥanīf; plural: حنفاء, ḥunafā’), meaning “renunciate”, refers to one who, according to Islamic belief, maintained the pure monotheism of the patriarch Abraham. More specifically, in Islamic thought, renunciates were the people who, during the pre-Islamic period or Jahiliyyah, were seen to have renounced idolatry and retained some or all of the tenets of the religion of Abraham (إبراهيم, Ibrāhīm), which was submission to God in its purest form. The word is found twelve times in the Quran (ten times in its singular form and twice in the plural form) and Islamic tradition tells of a number of individuals who were ḥunafā’. According to Muslim tradition, Muhammad himself was a ḥanīf and a descendant of Ishmael, son of Abraham.​

 

[Deleted member 10987]

İt was a pre islamic creed of tawhid.

Ḥanīf (Arabic: حنيف‎, ḥanīf; plural: حنفاء, ḥunafā’), meaning “renunciate”, refers to one who, according to Islamic belief, maintained the pure monotheism of the patriarch Abraham. More specifically, in Islamic thought, renunciates were the people who, during the pre-Islamic period or Jahiliyyah, were seen to have renounced idolatry and retained some or all of the tenets of the religion of Abraham (إبراهيم, Ibrāhīm), which was submission to God in its purest form. The word is found twelve times in the Quran (ten times in its singular form and twice in the plural form) and Islamic tradition tells of a number of individuals who were ḥunafā’. According to Muslim tradition, Muhammad himself was a ḥanīf and a descendant of Ishmael, son of Abraham.​

Ok
Never heard of this
Its basically the ancient form of tawhid

 

[animo123]

Same tbh, I'm on a spectrum from Agnostic to Deist. Not really a Muslim anymore.

thats damn shame upti
what exactly are you contentions with the deen tho

 

[animo123]

same, i dont believe nor deny the existence of god. i really just dont know lol

would it be fair to say your not too fussed on whether a creator exists or some other reason?

 

[animo123]

Like praying 5x a day, wearing wearing black burkas head to toe, etc. There's more as well, I just can't think of it right now.

well tbh burqas arent necessary and what is your issue with the praying part
is it the praying or doing it 5 times a day

 

[Deleted member 10949]

Wallahi I remember a voice teaching me a surah in a dream and when I woke up I knew it from memory

Because of that i never lost my faith

 

[crosshold]

would it be fair to say your not too fussed on whether a creator exists or some other reason?

its not that, its just i have no way to find out so why should i focus on it

 

[animo123]

its not that, its just i have no way to find out so why should i focus on it

tbh id say just out of curiosity
doesnt it nag at you at the back of your head whats the point of all of this?
If their is even a point?

Sitting on the fence can only ever get you one thing...
Splinters!

 

[Wallenberg]

cant force faith bro. i grew up muslim but i just dont feel the connection anymore

Same tbh, I'm on a spectrum from Agnostic to Deist. Not really a Muslim anymore.

Good stuff