Rochefort6
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You can't logic someone out of something they didnt logic themselves into.
You fear women you are attracted to. They are people just like you or me, but a woman's weapon is her beauty and the more of it she possesses the more of a weapon she is. Next is the mother of all evils: comparison. Now that you have convinced yourself that you aren't worthy based on some fictitious image you have of her only allowing Brad Pitt types into her life, you will play the victim narrative. Once you are a victim you feed off this invisible oppression. It becomes your identity. Like the male equivalent of most feminists.
Beauty is a big part in seduction but is practically nothing compared to social fluency. Most of you, generally speaking, are socially retarded and will push away ideas that go against your preconceptions. You have standards that are deep in the realm of fantasy. You want exact standards yet you fall far below them.
There are men like me, who actually leave the basement, who have easily been rejected by women hundreds of times.
I cannot really blame you. It took me damn near two decades to realize women actually want you to approach them and if you do they actually want the interaction to go smoothly. On the other hand it also takes a tremendous amount of courage, at first, to ask an attractive girl out and if she says "No", for whatever reason, GOD DOES IT STING...at first, but through repetition it is less painful and the whole process becomes fun.
The problem with you incel types is not only will you not give yourselves a chance, but you won't even take the most minute of corrective steps in the opposite direction of where you’re heading. I am even convinced that the victim narrative is soo strong with you that even if a women knocked on your door and asked you out you still would find a reason that it isn't true that someone from the opposite sex could love them.
I can try to talk some of you out of your social suicide ideologies and yes, I may talk some down who are open minded, but it's hard to talk down someone who's already accepted death.
The fact that some of you say its incel logic shows that you know its bullshit. I cant convince you it's wrong but you’re definitely aware that it is.
You’ve fully embraced that you're an unlovable worthless piece of shit and you’re in too deep to change that. if anyone compliments you "they’re lying" or "being nice". If you fail a few times "it doesnt work" or “this is bullshit". Then you probably have oneitis with a girl either you’ve never talked to or got friend-zoned by, have either no friends in real life or you know nothing about them because you dont care.
I can promise you, nothing I say will change you. I can recommend the books but I know you wont read them. I can show you pictures of “incels” in relationships but you will find a way that it's wrong. “He’s rich, hes attractive, the girl is ugly," etc. I can say, work out, clean up your style, go out and socialize, learn about other people, but you'll call that stupid a waste of time.
I’m sure if someone said half the shit to you that you say to yourself, about yourself you'd be fucking pissed, yet you’re going to take it, like a self induced stockholm syndrome. The only way I know out of stockholm syndrome is removing the abuser, but I don't know how to separate you from yourself.
The only solution is rock bottom moments. In some sort of way, when you fuck up your life so bad from this mentality, you’ll be susceptible to change. Until then, I don’t think anything is possible.
TLDR: I do actually feel bad for you incels. Your low self-esteem, and miserable view of the world, causes a lot of avoidable suffering.
But you are not Incels by logic. You are Incels by emotion. And you can't logically breakdown an emotional decision.
There is a lot of self loathing on the internet, and I’m never gonna change that until your life shows you otherwise. Everyone is on their own journey.
You fear women you are attracted to. They are people just like you or me, but a woman's weapon is her beauty and the more of it she possesses the more of a weapon she is. Next is the mother of all evils: comparison. Now that you have convinced yourself that you aren't worthy based on some fictitious image you have of her only allowing Brad Pitt types into her life, you will play the victim narrative. Once you are a victim you feed off this invisible oppression. It becomes your identity. Like the male equivalent of most feminists.
Beauty is a big part in seduction but is practically nothing compared to social fluency. Most of you, generally speaking, are socially retarded and will push away ideas that go against your preconceptions. You have standards that are deep in the realm of fantasy. You want exact standards yet you fall far below them.
There are men like me, who actually leave the basement, who have easily been rejected by women hundreds of times.
I cannot really blame you. It took me damn near two decades to realize women actually want you to approach them and if you do they actually want the interaction to go smoothly. On the other hand it also takes a tremendous amount of courage, at first, to ask an attractive girl out and if she says "No", for whatever reason, GOD DOES IT STING...at first, but through repetition it is less painful and the whole process becomes fun.
The problem with you incel types is not only will you not give yourselves a chance, but you won't even take the most minute of corrective steps in the opposite direction of where you’re heading. I am even convinced that the victim narrative is soo strong with you that even if a women knocked on your door and asked you out you still would find a reason that it isn't true that someone from the opposite sex could love them.
I can try to talk some of you out of your social suicide ideologies and yes, I may talk some down who are open minded, but it's hard to talk down someone who's already accepted death.
The fact that some of you say its incel logic shows that you know its bullshit. I cant convince you it's wrong but you’re definitely aware that it is.
You’ve fully embraced that you're an unlovable worthless piece of shit and you’re in too deep to change that. if anyone compliments you "they’re lying" or "being nice". If you fail a few times "it doesnt work" or “this is bullshit". Then you probably have oneitis with a girl either you’ve never talked to or got friend-zoned by, have either no friends in real life or you know nothing about them because you dont care.
I can promise you, nothing I say will change you. I can recommend the books but I know you wont read them. I can show you pictures of “incels” in relationships but you will find a way that it's wrong. “He’s rich, hes attractive, the girl is ugly," etc. I can say, work out, clean up your style, go out and socialize, learn about other people, but you'll call that stupid a waste of time.
I’m sure if someone said half the shit to you that you say to yourself, about yourself you'd be fucking pissed, yet you’re going to take it, like a self induced stockholm syndrome. The only way I know out of stockholm syndrome is removing the abuser, but I don't know how to separate you from yourself.
The only solution is rock bottom moments. In some sort of way, when you fuck up your life so bad from this mentality, you’ll be susceptible to change. Until then, I don’t think anything is possible.
TLDR: I do actually feel bad for you incels. Your low self-esteem, and miserable view of the world, causes a lot of avoidable suffering.
But you are not Incels by logic. You are Incels by emotion. And you can't logically breakdown an emotional decision.
There is a lot of self loathing on the internet, and I’m never gonna change that until your life shows you otherwise. Everyone is on their own journey.
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