My current and planned stack. (PEDS and drugs)

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PREFACE:

These are all things that I have taken, am currently taking, or planning to take. In this thread, I will give my anecdotal experience with each compound, listing the side effects and benefits that I have observed. Furthermore, I understand what I am taking, and if you plan on taking ANY compounds, you should DYOR (do your own research) rather than trusting random people on org. Also, it is important to note that I began with clinically low testosterone levels (217 ng/dl) and mid range estrogen (19.55 pg/mL), so I had very low androgenic exposure prior to my PED use. Bodyfat measurements early on were made with a body fat caliper and should be taken with a grain of salt. Finally, I will post progress pictures once my 20 week cycle of testosterone is over. With that out of the way, let's get into it.

PEDS RELATED TO FITNESS (STEROIDS, SARMS, ETC.):
I haven't taken too many anabolic substances, but the ones I have taken have been incredible. I will also list some things that I have taken for "muscle growth" that were completely useless (mk677). Here are the substances that I have taken so far (in chronologic order):
  1. MK677 (ibutamoren):
    1. I took MK677 about 9 months ago, and it was, simply put, a waste of time and money. Do not spend money on this growth hormone secretagogue unless you are willing to waste your money on a useless compound that marginally improves sleep quality. Here is what I experienced:
      1. Ability to eat more without being as full. I did not get the "extreme hunger" that is often cited in anecdotes, but I suppose it helped me eat more overall.
      2. Improved sleep (sort of?): For the first few weeks on MK677, I experienced vivid dreams and woke up feeling slightly more rested. While this was nice, it was most definitely not worth the price.
  2. Andarine (S4):
    1. I took Andarine for 10 weeks without a test base at 50mg per day split into two doses. Obviously, this wasn't the greatest idea I've ever had, but I did see good growth while on it. Here's what I noticed:
      1. Strength gain: While mild, I did experience strength gains early on and late into my Andarine cycle.
      2. Fat loss: I began eating in a surplus while taking Andarine, and then I switched to a deficit about 4 weeks into the cycle. I had previously taken Retatrutide to get down from 30% bodyfat, but I'll touch more on Reta later.
      3. Lean tissue gain: While I did not get a dexa scan prior to my cycle, my physique improved visually; I am only able to note a visual improvement, as my weight dropped significantly due to fat loss. (20% to 15.5% bodyfat, 173 lbs to 162 lbs, which was based on my weight in the morning after I woke up.)
  3. rHGH:
    1. I have been on rHGH for just over two months at 5 ius/day. Here is what I have noticed:
      1. Bloat: The morning bloat has been terrible. While early on it could be partially attributed to my terrible diet, the bloat has persisted even after my diet improved significantly.
      2. Sleep: My sleep quality has improved. While it could be partially placebo, I wake up feeling more rested and I haven't had a single night of bad sleep since I began rHGH.
      3. There isn't much else to say about rHGH. It is a great compound that I would definitely recommend, but DYOR regardless.
  4. Testosterone (sustanon):
    1. I have been taking testosterone for about 2.5 weeks at 1 gram per week, and I pin twice weekly in my ventro glutes. (yes, it's a high dose, I know.)
      1. Strength: My strength has rapidly improved, with all of my lifts increasing incredibly fast.
      2. Recovery: I never feel sore the day after my lifts. My split is ULULULU,LULULUL. Everyday it feels as if I could hit the same muscle groups that I hit the day prior, though it should be noted that I only do 3 sets until complete failure (6-7 reps).
      3. Energy: This is likely partially due to my clinically low testosterone, but I have notice a significant increase in energy; I am always ready to go and do something.
      4. Cognition: Again, this is likely partially due to my previously low testosterone levels, but my brain fog has completely gone away. I am also able to recall things from a while ago (i.e. license plates from four months ago, conversations I had months ago, etc.).
      5. Libido: Good lord my libido has gone up. :p I used to only wake up with an erection on occasion, but now I wake up with one every morning, and I consistently get random erections multiple times per day at school. Thank god I'm not an incel, because I know I would be jerking off if I was.
  5. Anavar (oxandrolone):
    1. To be honest, Anavar has been pretty mild. I am taking 25 mgs/day of Anavar, and here is what I have noticed:
      1. Pumps (maybe): I feel like my pumps have improved, but this could be attributed to the 50mgs of viagra and 20mgs of cialis that I take daily. (I will touch on these later, too.)
      2. Strength + energy (again, maybe): I have seen an increase in my strength and energy, but this could also be attributed to testosterone.
      3. Summary: I cannot rate Anavar as I have not isolated it yet.
OTHER DRUGS
These are the other drugs that I have taken, and they are also in chronological order.
  1. Semax:
    1. Semax was great when I took it, and I took 600mcg/day of nasal spray for about 6 weeks. This is what I noticed:
      1. I noticed an increase in my memory recall and overall cognitive ability.
      2. That's it.
  2. Retatrutide:
    1. I took Retatrutide for 10 weeks at 1mg/week and lost 17 lbs. Here is what I noticed:
      1. Extreme appetite suppression: I was never hungry, and I did not have any cravings while taking it.
      2. Lower blood sugar: I check my blood sugar quite often, and it was definitely lower while taking Reta.
  3. Viagra + Cialis:
    1. I have been taking Viagra and Cialis for about two months now at 50mg/day and 20mg/day respectively. Here is what I have noticed:
      1. Erection quality and duration: My erections are harder and they last for significantly longer. Think 30 minutes without sexual stimulation.
      2. Pumps: Holy fucking shit. I cannot glaze these two enough, as my pumps have been incredible. My vascularity is insane, and when I workout, sometimes I am unable to fully close my hands due to how pumped my forearms are.
  4. Aromasin:
    1. I take 6.25 mgs of Aromasin weekly, and no, I don't need more. I get my bloodwork done, and this dose works for me. Here's what I've noticed:
      1. No estrogen induced bloat: Being able to control your estrogen is a necessity. My estrogen is in a great place right now, and I love it.
  5. HCG:
    1. I take 1000 ius of HCG weekly, and I will continue to do so as long as I am blasting testosterone. There isn't much else to say here, you all know what HCG does.
  6. Accutane *(soon):
    1. I will begin 30mgs/day of Accutane in about 1 week. I will update with progress.
  7. BAM15 *(soon):
    1. I have noticed that there are very few anecdotal reports of BAM15, so I figure why not try it out. It's not like I plan on living past 40 anyways. I am planning to take 50mg/day for as long as I need to reach 10% bodyfat.
  8. Dihexa *(soon):
    1. I obviously want to maximize cognitive function, so I will be taking 20mgs of ORAL Dihexa daily for 6 weeks. School is already not an issue, as I easily get A's in all of my classes without studying, so Dihexa is purely for funsies.
  9. Adderall and cocaine (on occasion):
    1. This should go without saying, but both of these are very fun to use.
  10. Nicotine:
    1. I vape and abuse velos daily. This isn't because I'm addicted, I use nicotine because it's fun.
CONCLUSION:
Drugs are incredible, and I love them. I cannot wait to see my results and to share my anecdotal experience. Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for reading. :)
 
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D to the N to the R

Not a single proton
 
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>217 ng/dl of test

Bro is two foids slapped together of test.
 
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abat said:
PREFACE:

These are all things that I have taken, am currently taking, or planning to take. In this thread, I will give my anecdotal experience with each compound, listing the side effects and benefits that I have observed. Furthermore, I understand what I am taking, and if you plan on taking ANY compounds, you should DYOR (do your own research) rather than trusting random people on org. Also, it is important to note that I began with clinically low testosterone levels (217 ng/dl) and mid range estrogen (19.55 pg/mL), so I had very low androgenic exposure prior to my PED use. Bodyfat measurements early on were made with a body fat caliper and should be taken with a grain of salt. Finally, I will post progress pictures once my 20 week cycle of testosterone is over. With that out of the way, let's get into it.

PEDS RELATED TO FITNESS (STEROIDS, SARMS, ETC.):
I haven't taken too many anabolic substances, but the ones I have taken have been incredible. I will also list some things that I have taken for "muscle growth" that were completely useless (mk677). Here are the substances that I have taken so far (in chronologic order):
  1. MK677 (ibutamoren):
    1. I took MK677 about 9 months ago, and it was, simply put, a waste of time and money. Do not spend money on this growth hormone secretagogue unless you are willing to waste your money on a useless compound that marginally improves sleep quality. Here is what I experienced:
      1. Ability to eat more without being as full. I did not get the "extreme hunger" that is often cited in anecdotes, but I suppose it helped me eat more overall.
      2. Improved sleep (sort of?): For the first few weeks on MK677, I experienced vivid dreams and woke up feeling slightly more rested. While this was nice, it was most definitely not worth the price.
  2. Andarine (S4):
    1. I took Andarine for 10 weeks without a test base at 50mg per day split into two doses. Obviously, this wasn't the greatest idea I've ever had, but I did see good growth while on it. Here's what I noticed:
      1. Strength gain: While mild, I did experience strength gains early on and late into my Andarine cycle.
      2. Fat loss: I began eating in a surplus while taking Andarine, and then I switched to a deficit about 4 weeks into the cycle. I had previously taken Retatrutide to get down from 30% bodyfat, but I'll touch more on Reta later.
      3. Lean tissue gain: While I did not get a dexa scan prior to my cycle, my physique improved visually; I am only able to note a visual improvement, as my weight dropped significantly due to fat loss. (20% to 15.5% bodyfat, 173 lbs to 162 lbs, which was based on my weight in the morning after I woke up.)
  3. rHGH:
    1. I have been on rHGH for just over two months at 5 ius/day. Here is what I have noticed:
      1. Bloat: The morning bloat has been terrible. While early on it could be partially attributed to my terrible diet, the bloat has persisted even after my diet improved significantly.
      2. Sleep: My sleep quality has improved. While it could be partially placebo, I wake up feeling more rested and I haven't had a single night of bad sleep since I began rHGH.
      3. There isn't much else to say about rHGH. It is a great compound that I would definitely recommend, but DYOR regardless.
  4. Testosterone (sustanon):
    1. I have been taking testosterone for about 2.5 weeks at 1 gram per week, and I pin twice weekly in my ventro glutes. (yes, it's a high dose, I know.)
      1. Strength: My strength has rapidly improved, with all of my lifts increasing incredibly fast.
      2. Recovery: I never feel sore the day after my lifts. My split is ULULULU,LULULUL. Everyday it feels as if I could hit the same muscle groups that I hit the day prior, though it should be noted that I only do 3 sets until complete failure (6-7 reps).
      3. Energy: This is likely partially due to my clinically low testosterone, but I have notice a significant increase in energy; I am always ready to go and do something.
      4. Cognition: Again, this is likely partially due to my previously low testosterone levels, but my brain fog has completely gone away. I am also able to recall things from a while ago (i.e. license plates from four months ago, conversations I had months ago, etc.).
      5. Libido: Good lord my libido has gone up. :p I used to only wake up with an erection on occasion, but now I wake up with one every morning, and I consistently get random erections multiple times per day at school. Thank god I'm not an incel, because I know I would be jerking off if I was.
  5. Anavar (oxandrolone):
    1. To be honest, Anavar has been pretty mild. I am taking 25 mgs/day of Anavar, and here is what I have noticed:
      1. Pumps (maybe): I feel like my pumps have improved, but this could be attributed to the 50mgs of viagra and 20mgs of cialis that I take daily. (I will touch on these later, too.)
      2. Strength + energy (again, maybe): I have seen an increase in my strength and energy, but this could also be attributed to testosterone.
      3. Summary: I cannot rate Anavar as I have not isolated it yet.
OTHER DRUGS
These are the other drugs that I have taken, and they are also in chronological order.
  1. Semax:
    1. Semax was great when I took it, and I took 600mcg/day of nasal spray for about 6 weeks. This is what I noticed:
      1. I noticed an increase in my memory recall and overall cognitive ability.
      2. That's it.
  2. Retatrutide:
    1. I took Retatrutide for 10 weeks at 1mg/week and lost 17 lbs. Here is what I noticed:
      1. Extreme appetite suppression: I was never hungry, and I did not have any cravings while taking it.
      2. Lower blood sugar: I check my blood sugar quite often, and it was definitely lower while taking Reta.
  3. Viagra + Cialis:
    1. I have been taking Viagra and Cialis for about two months now at 50mg/day and 20mg/day respectively. Here is what I have noticed:
      1. Erection quality and duration: My erections are harder and they last for significantly longer. Think 30 minutes without sexual stimulation.
      2. Pumps: Holy fucking shit. I cannot glaze these two enough, as my pumps have been incredible. My vascularity is insane, and when I workout, sometimes I am unable to fully close my hands due to how pumped my forearms are.
  4. Aromasin:
    1. I take 6.25 mgs of Aromasin weekly, and no, I don't need more. I get my bloodwork done, and this dose works for me. Here's what I've noticed:
      1. No estrogen induced bloat: Being able to control your estrogen is a necessity. My estrogen is in a great place right now, and I love it.
  5. HCG:
    1. I take 1000 ius of HCG weekly, and I will continue to do so as long as I am blasting testosterone. There isn't much else to say here, you all know what HCG does.
  6. Accutane *(soon):
    1. I will begin 30mgs/day of Accutane in about 1 week. I will update with progress.
  7. BAM15 *(soon):
    1. I have noticed that there are very few anecdotal reports of BAM15, so I figure why not try it out. It's not like I plan on living past 40 anyways. I am planning to take 50mg/day for as long as I need to reach 10% bodyfat.
  8. Dihexa *(soon):
    1. I obviously want to maximize cognitive function, so I will be taking 20mgs of ORAL Dihexa daily for 6 weeks. School is already not an issue, as I easily get A's in all of my classes without studying, so Dihexa is purely for funsies.
  9. Adderall and cocaine (on occasion):
    1. This should go without saying, but both of these are very fun to use.
  10. Nicotine:
    1. I vape and abuse velos daily. This isn't because I'm addicted, I use nicotine because it's fun.
CONCLUSION:
Drugs are incredible, and I love them. I cannot wait to see my results and to share my anecdotal experience. Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for reading. :)
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gym results are probably from the var not test as it’s so early
 
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inferior said:
200-250-300 was on 200 for 6 weeks then 250 for 5 weeks now on 300
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Ahh alright, that makes more sense. Have you noticed any significant changes in your body composition since starting? i'm planning to bring my dose down a bit because I don't believe >1 gram per week to be sustainable.
 
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abat said:
Ahh alright, that makes more sense. Have you noticed any significant changes in your body composition since starting? i'm planning to bring my dose down a bit because I don't believe >1 gram per week to be sustainable.
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gained 4kg overall mass + i didn’t go to the gym for 2 weeks and got stronger,im thinking about running a cycle but for now im just gonna maintain 300
 
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gained 4kg overall mass + i didn’t go to the gym for 2 weeks and got stronger,im thinking about running a cycle but for now im just gonna maintain 300
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that's quite good. were you already in the gym for awhile prior to test, or did you only start recently?
 
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that's quite good. were you already in the gym for awhile prior to test, or did you only start recently?
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11months in, i didn’t change any routines if anything i did less
 
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wow, great job brother.
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ty bro all i will say is be aware of blood thickening with all the substances + i have a theory that the mk made your test so low
 
inferior said:
ty bro all i will say is be aware of blood thickening with all the substances + i have a theory that the mk made your test so low
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i take cialis daily, and I measure my bp daily, so my blood is under control. the mk didn't have a noticeable impact on my test, but the sarms did.
 
abat said:
i take cialis daily, and I measure my bp daily, so my blood is under control. the mk didn't have a noticeable impact on my test, but the sarms did.
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what sarms?
 
abat said:
PREFACE:

These are all things that I have taken, am currently taking, or planning to take. In this thread, I will give my anecdotal experience with each compound, listing the side effects and benefits that I have observed. Furthermore, I understand what I am taking, and if you plan on taking ANY compounds, you should DYOR (do your own research) rather than trusting random people on org. Also, it is important to note that I began with clinically low testosterone levels (217 ng/dl) and mid range estrogen (19.55 pg/mL), so I had very low androgenic exposure prior to my PED use. Bodyfat measurements early on were made with a body fat caliper and should be taken with a grain of salt. Finally, I will post progress pictures once my 20 week cycle of testosterone is over. With that out of the way, let's get into it.

PEDS RELATED TO FITNESS (STEROIDS, SARMS, ETC.):
I haven't taken too many anabolic substances, but the ones I have taken have been incredible. I will also list some things that I have taken for "muscle growth" that were completely useless (mk677). Here are the substances that I have taken so far (in chronologic order):
  1. MK677 (ibutamoren):
    1. I took MK677 about 9 months ago, and it was, simply put, a waste of time and money. Do not spend money on this growth hormone secretagogue unless you are willing to waste your money on a useless compound that marginally improves sleep quality. Here is what I experienced:
      1. Ability to eat more without being as full. I did not get the "extreme hunger" that is often cited in anecdotes, but I suppose it helped me eat more overall.
      2. Improved sleep (sort of?): For the first few weeks on MK677, I experienced vivid dreams and woke up feeling slightly more rested. While this was nice, it was most definitely not worth the price.
  2. Andarine (S4):
    1. I took Andarine for 10 weeks without a test base at 50mg per day split into two doses. Obviously, this wasn't the greatest idea I've ever had, but I did see good growth while on it. Here's what I noticed:
      1. Strength gain: While mild, I did experience strength gains early on and late into my Andarine cycle.
      2. Fat loss: I began eating in a surplus while taking Andarine, and then I switched to a deficit about 4 weeks into the cycle. I had previously taken Retatrutide to get down from 30% bodyfat, but I'll touch more on Reta later.
      3. Lean tissue gain: While I did not get a dexa scan prior to my cycle, my physique improved visually; I am only able to note a visual improvement, as my weight dropped significantly due to fat loss. (20% to 15.5% bodyfat, 173 lbs to 162 lbs, which was based on my weight in the morning after I woke up.)
  3. rHGH:
    1. I have been on rHGH for just over two months at 5 ius/day. Here is what I have noticed:
      1. Bloat: The morning bloat has been terrible. While early on it could be partially attributed to my terrible diet, the bloat has persisted even after my diet improved significantly.
      2. Sleep: My sleep quality has improved. While it could be partially placebo, I wake up feeling more rested and I haven't had a single night of bad sleep since I began rHGH.
      3. There isn't much else to say about rHGH. It is a great compound that I would definitely recommend, but DYOR regardless.
  4. Testosterone (sustanon):
    1. I have been taking testosterone for about 2.5 weeks at 1 gram per week, and I pin twice weekly in my ventro glutes. (yes, it's a high dose, I know.)
      1. Strength: My strength has rapidly improved, with all of my lifts increasing incredibly fast.
      2. Recovery: I never feel sore the day after my lifts. My split is ULULULU,LULULUL. Everyday it feels as if I could hit the same muscle groups that I hit the day prior, though it should be noted that I only do 3 sets until complete failure (6-7 reps).
      3. Energy: This is likely partially due to my clinically low testosterone, but I have notice a significant increase in energy; I am always ready to go and do something.
      4. Cognition: Again, this is likely partially due to my previously low testosterone levels, but my brain fog has completely gone away. I am also able to recall things from a while ago (i.e. license plates from four months ago, conversations I had months ago, etc.).
      5. Libido: Good lord my libido has gone up. :p I used to only wake up with an erection on occasion, but now I wake up with one every morning, and I consistently get random erections multiple times per day at school. Thank god I'm not an incel, because I know I would be jerking off if I was.
  5. Anavar (oxandrolone):
    1. To be honest, Anavar has been pretty mild. I am taking 25 mgs/day of Anavar, and here is what I have noticed:
      1. Pumps (maybe): I feel like my pumps have improved, but this could be attributed to the 50mgs of viagra and 20mgs of cialis that I take daily. (I will touch on these later, too.)
      2. Strength + energy (again, maybe): I have seen an increase in my strength and energy, but this could also be attributed to testosterone.
      3. Summary: I cannot rate Anavar as I have not isolated it yet.
OTHER DRUGS
These are the other drugs that I have taken, and they are also in chronological order.
  1. Semax:
    1. Semax was great when I took it, and I took 600mcg/day of nasal spray for about 6 weeks. This is what I noticed:
      1. I noticed an increase in my memory recall and overall cognitive ability.
      2. That's it.
  2. Retatrutide:
    1. I took Retatrutide for 10 weeks at 1mg/week and lost 17 lbs. Here is what I noticed:
      1. Extreme appetite suppression: I was never hungry, and I did not have any cravings while taking it.
      2. Lower blood sugar: I check my blood sugar quite often, and it was definitely lower while taking Reta.
  3. Viagra + Cialis:
    1. I have been taking Viagra and Cialis for about two months now at 50mg/day and 20mg/day respectively. Here is what I have noticed:
      1. Erection quality and duration: My erections are harder and they last for significantly longer. Think 30 minutes without sexual stimulation.
      2. Pumps: Holy fucking shit. I cannot glaze these two enough, as my pumps have been incredible. My vascularity is insane, and when I workout, sometimes I am unable to fully close my hands due to how pumped my forearms are.
  4. Aromasin:
    1. I take 6.25 mgs of Aromasin weekly, and no, I don't need more. I get my bloodwork done, and this dose works for me. Here's what I've noticed:
      1. No estrogen induced bloat: Being able to control your estrogen is a necessity. My estrogen is in a great place right now, and I love it.
  5. HCG:
    1. I take 1000 ius of HCG weekly, and I will continue to do so as long as I am blasting testosterone. There isn't much else to say here, you all know what HCG does.
  6. Accutane *(soon):
    1. I will begin 30mgs/day of Accutane in about 1 week. I will update with progress.
  7. BAM15 *(soon):
    1. I have noticed that there are very few anecdotal reports of BAM15, so I figure why not try it out. It's not like I plan on living past 40 anyways. I am planning to take 50mg/day for as long as I need to reach 10% bodyfat.
  8. Dihexa *(soon):
    1. I obviously want to maximize cognitive function, so I will be taking 20mgs of ORAL Dihexa daily for 6 weeks. School is already not an issue, as I easily get A's in all of my classes without studying, so Dihexa is purely for funsies.
  9. Adderall and cocaine (on occasion):
    1. This should go without saying, but both of these are very fun to use.
  10. Nicotine:
    1. I vape and abuse velos daily. This isn't because I'm addicted, I use nicotine because it's fun.
CONCLUSION:
Drugs are incredible, and I love them. I cannot wait to see my results and to share my anecdotal experience. Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for reading. :)
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W bro W
 
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Andarine sounds like a good bang for your buck.
 
Giorgio said:
dosing asin weekly will result in e2 fluctuations
split dose and dose more frequently
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typo, i take it 3x per week. not sure how I messed that up.
 
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  1. Nicotine:
    1. I vape and abuse velos daily. This isn't because I'm addicted, I use nicotine because it's fun.
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"i can quit whenever i want" :feelstastyman:
 
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"i can quit whenever i want" :feelstastyman:
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addiction isn't a real thing, by the way. if you are too stupid to disregard your emotions, that's simply an issue to deal with on your own. anyone who struggles with addiction is just an emotional idiot.
 
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addiction isn't a real thing, by the way. if you are too stupid to disregard your emotions, that's simply an issue to deal with on your own. anyone who struggles with addiction is just an emotional idiot.
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addiction is definitely a real thing, though only really at harmful dosages and especially compounds (cough* opiods)
you can have physical withdrawals where your body punishes itself if you miss out on your doses in term of flu symptoms or worse
though for nicotine, its not that bad unless youre a serial abuser
 
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