My cycle that i will do at 15.

[Djimo]

250mg test e 2x a week
300mcg cjc no dac daily in the evening
350mcg ipamorelin daily in the evening
~7.5mg aromasin eod
~199$

Currently ~180cm ~70kg and 15y/tanner 2.5-3

This is what im gonna use for ~6 months the reason im choosing this cycle over a regular hgh cycle is mainly due to the price,
the cycle im doing is way cheaper than a regular hgh cycle and is even better imo.

 

[Djimo]

@vincentzygo no need to JFL me when ur banned faggot

 

[looksmaxer321]

250mg test e 2x a week
300mcg cjc no dac daily in the evening
350mcg ipamorelin daily in the evening
~7.5mg aromasin eod
~199$

Currently ~180cm ~70kg and 15y/tanner 2.5-3

This is what im gonna use for ~6 months the reason im choosing this cycle over a regular hgh cycle is mainly due to the price,
the cycle im doing is way cheaper than a regular hgh cycle and is even better imo.

dont do it its not worth it trust

 

[Djimo]

dont do it its not worth it trust

why so?

 

[Djimo]

still got no idea if i will document my journey or just leave the forum once i started the cycle

 

[Djimo]

@ketamin whats the reason for the jfl?

 

[ketamin]

@ketamin whats the reason for the jfl?

That u wanna run a test cycle at 15. That’s just stupid.

 

[Djimo]

That u wanna run a test cycle at 15. That’s just stupid.

why is it stupid?

 

[ketamin]

why is it stupid?

Do u rlly want to fuck up ur hormones at 15 and stay on trt forever?

 

[Djimo]

Do u rlly want to fuck up ur hormones at 15 and stay on trt forever?

why would i not be able to reproduce afterwards?
Some say that i wont even need a pct but i probably will stay do a pct

 

[ykim]

This is my opinion, all accurate and read from studies and anecdotes. Most will agree.
The pros are:

Growth hormone stimulation and growth potential due to CJC1295 being a GHRH analogue and ipamorelin being a GHRP. These two will synergistically pulse GH release potentially boosting levels by 200-1000% for days which may support height gains in adolescents with open growth plates by promoting bone lengthening and recovery. Evening dosing aligns with natural GH pulses during sleep, better beneficial than in the morning.

Testosterone (Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week) is the standard dose for adults, promoting muscle mass strength and height acceleration considering where you are in puberty VIA effects on chondrocytes.

Estrogen management (Aromasin AKA exemestane 7.5mg/EOD) as a suicidal aromatase inhibitor effectively controls aromatization from testosterone, reducing risk of gynecomastia or fluid retention with lower rebound compared to other AI like arimidex.

The cons are:

Impact on height/growth plates from testosterone, exogenous testosterone can accelerate epiphyseal closure by converting to estrogen, the primary signal for stopping linear growth. Even with an aromatase inhibitor, potentially capping heightearlier than natural puberty. This is a major risk at Tanner 2.5-3 (as you selfdescribed) and anectotal reports from forums highlight permanent height loss in teen years using anabolic androgenic steroids.

Hormonal disruption from the hypothalamic pituitary testicular axis FKA HPTA. The HPTA is still developing at your tanner stage and 500mg/week testosterone will suppress natural production therefore risking testicular atrophy, low testosterone post cycle and long term issues requiring testosterone replacement therapy. Peptides further disrupt GH/IGF-1 balance.

Side effects include mild liver strain from the aromasin, insulin sensitivity problems from the chronic GH elevation. In young users like yourself brain development (impulsivity) is a concern. Aromasin may crash estrogen too low causing joint pain or libido issues.

You didn't mention a PCT, which is critical considering your place being your first cycle and it being 6 months AND being 15 at tanner 2.5-3. Hormonal recovery isn't guaranteed potentially impacting long term endocrinological health.

This is all crucial information and I hope you take it seriously, all the best and keep us updated also look into PCT and update us on your plans please.

 

[ketamin]

why would i not be able to reproduce afterwards?
Some say that i wont even need a pct but i probably will stay do a pct

The chances are that you are not gonna recover. You didn’t even add HCG to ur stack jfl. I wouldn’t do it man, I’m 18 but don’t have the balls to go on test yet.

 

[Frogooboi]

Why would you use no dac
Retarded cycle

 

[Djimo]

Estrogen management (Aromasin AKA exemestane 7.5mg/EOD) as a suicidal aromatase inhibitor effectively controls aromatization from testosterone, reducing risk of gynecomastia or fluid retention with lower rebound compared to other AI like arimidex.

The cons are:

Impact on height/growth plates from testosterone, exogenous testosterone can accelerate epiphyseal closure by converting to estrogen, the primary signal for stopping linear growth. Even with an aromatase inhibitor, potentially capping heightearlier than natural puberty. This is a major risk at Tanner 2.5-3 (as you selfdescribed) and anectotal reports from forums highlight permanent height loss in teen years using anabolic androgenic steroids.

so you countredict yourself in your own writing? nice.

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

250mg test e 2x a week
300mcg cjc no dac daily in the evening
350mcg ipamorelin daily in the evening
~7.5mg aromasin eod
~199$

How would you dose 7.5mg aromasin eod if they come in 25mg pills.
Are you even gonna PCT or use hcg?

This is what im gonna use for ~6 months the reason im choosing this cycle over a regular hgh cycle is mainly due to the price,
the cycle im doing is way cheaper than a regular hgh cycle and is even better imo.

secretagogues are not better at all and if you just save up a extra hundred or so you can just take Gh

 

[ykim]

so you countredict yourself in your own writing? nice.

When did I "contredict" myself?

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

This is my opinion, all accurate and read from studies and anecdotes. Most will agree.
The pros are:

Growth hormone stimulation and growth potential due to CJC1295 being a GHRH analogue and ipamorelin being a GHRP. These two will synergistically pulse GH release potentially boosting levels by 200-1000% for days which may support height gains in adolescents with open growth plates by promoting bone lengthening and recovery. Evening dosing aligns with natural GH pulses during sleep, better beneficial than in the morning.

Testosterone (Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week) is the standard dose for adults, promoting muscle mass strength and height acceleration considering where you are in puberty VIA effects on chondrocytes.

Estrogen management (Aromasin AKA exemestane 7.5mg/EOD) as a suicidal aromatase inhibitor effectively controls aromatization from testosterone, reducing risk of gynecomastia or fluid retention with lower rebound compared to other AI like arimidex.

The cons are:

Impact on height/growth plates from testosterone, exogenous testosterone can accelerate epiphyseal closure by converting to estrogen, the primary signal for stopping linear growth. Even with an aromatase inhibitor, potentially capping heightearlier than natural puberty. This is a major risk at Tanner 2.5-3 (as you selfdescribed) and anectotal reports from forums highlight permanent height loss in teen years using anabolic androgenic steroids.

Hormonal disruption from the hypothalamic pituitary testicular axis FKA HPTA. The HPTA is still developing at your tanner stage and 500mg/week testosterone will suppress natural production therefore risking testicular atrophy, low testosterone post cycle and long term issues requiring testosterone replacement therapy. Peptides further disrupt GH/IGF-1 balance.

Side effects include mild liver strain from the aromasin, insulin sensitivity problems from the chronic GH elevation. In young users like yourself brain development (impulsivity) is a concern. Aromasin may crash estrogen too low causing joint pain or libido issues.

You didn't mention a PCT, which is critical considering your place being your first cycle and it being 6 months AND being 15 at tanner 2.5-3. Hormonal recovery isn't guaranteed potentially impacting long term endocrinological health.

This is all crucial information and I hope you take it seriously, all the best and keep us updated also look into PCT and update us on your plans please.

If he wanted an Ai awnser he wouldve just asked chatgpt

 

[Djimo]

Why would you use no dac
Retarded cycle

wouldnt change much except how often you need to inject so yh i might do dac tbh

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

The chances are that you are not gonna recover. You didn’t even add HCG to ur stack jfl. I wouldn’t do it man, I’m 18 but don’t have the balls to go on test yet.

How come? Test really isnt that bad as it seems and the chances of recovering are really high.

 

[Frogooboi]

wouldnt change much except how often you need to inject so yh i might do dac tbh

There is a difference
Dac you will produce significantly more gh

You need to do more research before you start a cycle
Also if you want gh just pin hgh

 

[ykim]

If he wanted an Ai awnser he wouldve just asked chatgpt retard

This isn't AI smartass

 

[Djimo]

When did I "contredict" myself?

you contradicted yourself in my reply.

"pros, using an AI to keep estrogen in balance, therefore not causing premature plate closal.

"cons" high estrogen might cause prematur plate closal.

these arent your exact words but still you get the point.

 

[ketamin]

How come? Test really isnt that bad as it seems and the chances of recovering are really high.

For grown men, yes. Not for kids.

 

[Djimo]

You need to do more research before you start a cycle
Also if you want gh just pin hgh

im not wasting my money on hgh, id rather spend it on other looksmaxxing stuff instead.

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

This isn't AI smartass

hard to believe looks semi ai generated but kudos if it isnt

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

For grown men, yes. Not for kids.

At what age would you consider doing your first cycle?

 

[ykim]

you contradicted yourself in my reply.

"pros, using an AI to keep estrogen in balance, therefore not causing premature plate closal.

"cons" high estrogen might cause prematur plate closal.

these arent your exact words but still you get the point.

That's not contradicting myself.
And what are you on about? Contradicted myself in your reply

 

[ketamin]

At what age would you consider doing your first cycle?

I will prob run a test cycle next year, once I turn 19.

 

[Djimo]

How would you dose 7.5mg aromasin eod if they come in 25mg pills.

cut the pills

Are you even gonna PCT or use hcg?

yes i will, my bad for not saying tho.

secretagogues are not better at all and if you just save up a extra hundred or so you can just take Gh

never claimed they were better in producing (probably what you are referring to) im just saying that its worth more in terms of expenses.

5 iu hgh cycle for 5 months is ~300$

 

[ykim]

hard to believe looks semi ai generated but kudos if it isnt

I can't really prove it's not AI generated, but I hope this helps.

Most people mistake intelligence for artificial intelligence somehow.

 

[lukePILL]

still got no idea if i will document my journey or just leave the forum once i started the cycle

I just left lol got tired of the shitty replies saying Im gonna die at 20

 

[Djimo]

That's not contradicting myself.
And what are you on about? Contradicted myself in your reply

are you illiterate?


your words, "testosterone, exogenous testosterone can accelerate epiphyseal closure by converting to estrogen"
i clearly said that i would be taking an AI and regulate my estrogen levels.

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

im not wasting my money on hgh, id rather spend it on other looksmaxxing stuff instead.

what ''other'' looksmaxxing stuff?

cut the pills

Lmao you are NOT gonna be able to cut it 3way, even a 2way cut will most likely crumble the pills.

its worth more in terms of expenses.

5 iu hgh cycle for 5 months is ~300$

Your cjc and ipa isnt at all comparable to 5 ius of exogenous gh but if money really is a problem then i understand.

 

[ykim]

are you illiterate?


your words, "testosterone, exogenous testosterone can accelerate epiphyseal closure by converting to estrogen"
i clearly said that i would be taking an AI and regulate my estrogen levels.

I see where you are coming from, using Aromasin is a solid way to control estrogen from the Testosterone. However even with AI some testosterone will still convert to estrogen VIA peripheral aromatisaztion. For example, through fat tissue or other organs. And at your tanner stage low levels of estrogen can signal growth plate closure.

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

Most people mistake intelligence for artificial intelligence somehow.

If you really were ''Intelligent'' you would be able to put two and two together and realise why people might assume that

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[Djimo]

what ''other'' looksmaxxing stuff?

DIY stuff like aqualyx and teeth whitening, isotretinoin for example.

Lmao you are NOT gonna be able to cut it 3way, even a 2way cut will most likely crumble the pills.

i could probably make the 7.5mg pills myself using the same stuff for my isotretinoin pills.

Your cjc and ipa isnt at all comparable to 5 ius of exogenous gh but if money really is a problem then i understand.

true, but its better than nothing. i just dont think that all that money is worth it.

Hormone	Natural	Test + Peptides	Δ vs Baseline	7 IU HGH Daily	Δ vs Baseline
GH baseline	0.4 ng/mL	0.9 ng/mL	+0.5	1.5 ng/mL	+1.1
GH peak	20 ng/mL	45 ng/mL	+25	75 ng/mL	+55
IGF-1	400 ng/mL	675 ng/mL	+275	800 ng/mL	+400

 

[ykim]

If you really were ''Intelligent'' you would be able to put two and two together and realise why people might assume that


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So because i structured it, and the ai detector is viewing it as the OP writing what I said
I avoid slang since it's pathetic and informal, I was going with a formal approach.
And it's not anecdotal because it isn't. Your AI detector is viewing it as me saying this is all anecdotal information and I'm the 15 year old OP.

 

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

So because i structured it, and the ai detector is viewing it as the OP writing what I said
I avoid slang since it's pathetic and informal, I was going with a formal approach.
And it's not anecdotal because it isn't. Your AI detector is viewing it as me saying this is all anecdotal information and I'm the 15 year old OP.

Pointless to argue it tbh, either way if its ai or not atleast it wasnt bullshit information.

 

[ykim]

Your AI is viewing what I said as me writing it anectdotaly and as the 15 year old OP.
I am being critisiced by a robot since I didn't use slang and used the formal medical terms, rather than BP terms or whatever the latter is.
Using a Pros/Cons list is now also seen as AI which is pathetic.
And as you saw, there were plenty of typos, GptZero saw it as 98% human and I didn't proofread it afterwards since I knew some tools would accuse me of copy and paste so there would be no point making it gramatically pretty.

If you really were ''Intelligent'' you would be able to put two and two together and realise why people might assume that


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[Djimo]

@Copercel whats the reason for the jfl?

 

[bttb]

@vincentzygo no need to JFL me when ur banned faggot

@Copercel whats the reason for the jfl?

Bro just take ur rep why are you complaining

 

[repulse]

keep coping with cjc and ipam

 

[SlayerJonas]

250mg test e 2x a week
300mcg cjc no dac daily in the evening
350mcg ipamorelin daily in the evening
~7.5mg aromasin eod
~199$

Currently ~180cm ~70kg and 15y/tanner 2.5-3

This is what im gonna use for ~6 months the reason im choosing this cycle over a regular hgh cycle is mainly due to the price,
the cycle im doing is way cheaper than a regular hgh cycle and is even better imo.

You dose test e every third day, not twice a week. So don't go and write down special pinning days

All the GH releasing peptides are garbage and you won't grow "bones", they won't help much with "muh recovery" (cope statement) either, GH is king

AI will cuck every part of your existence (brain, hair, skin, spine, etc.) to keep your "growth plates open", you won't grow anyway above your genetic ceiling especially now that you're at tanner stage 3

No need for roiding if you don't even know what diet and training is, stop it. It's in a literal sense self-harm

 

[Djimo]

All the GH releasing peptides are garbage and you won't grow "bones", they won't help much with "muh recovery" (cope statement) either, GH is king

the thing with GH is that the price is quite high, about 300 usd for a 5 month cycle of 5iu daily, and the cjc no dac+ipa is about 1/3 of the price but also half as good as hgh.

AI will cuck every part of your existence (brain, hair, skin, spine, etc.) to keep your "growth plates open", you won't grow anyway above your genetic ceiling especially now that you're at tanner stage 3

yh i saw some posts about these issues but most posters acted like it wasnt as bad.

No need for roiding if you don't even know what diet and training is, stop it. It's in a literal sense self-harm

i know everything about training, my only lack on knowledge would be roids and diet, what would you recommend to me to improve my knowledge and should you even roid at my age in general?

 

[Djimo]

keep coping with cjc and ipam

im not coping with cjc and ipamorelin, im just using it bc its way cheaper (3x) than GH

 

[repulse]

im not coping with cjc and ipamorelin, im just using it bc its way cheaper (3x) than GH

U are coping.

 

[Copercel]

250mg test e 2x a week
300mcg cjc no dac daily in the evening
350mcg ipamorelin daily in the evening
~7.5mg aromasin eod
~199$

Currently ~180cm ~70kg and 15y/tanner 2.5-3

This is what im gonna use for ~6 months the reason im choosing this cycle over a regular hgh cycle is mainly due to the price,
the cycle im doing is way cheaper than a regular hgh cycle and is even better imo.

I assume the aromasin will be used only when you notice high e2 effects right?

And the test is 250 twice a week ( 500 per week) or just split?

And why not hGH instead of the cjc and ipamorelin ?

Also 26 weeks for a first cycle is a bit long, start from 16-20 weeks
You can still use HGH indefinitely tho

 

[vision_n]

Why would you use no dac
Retarded cycle

because its cheaper no

 

[Djimo]

I assume the aromasin will be used only when you notice high e2 effects right?

yh

And the test is 250 twice a week ( 500 per week) or just split?

im taking jonas his advice and inject every 3rd day, so ill do like 200mg each injection.

And why not hGH instead of the cjc and ipamorelin ?

pricing, it would be ~310 usd for 5 iu ed for 5 months and the cjc + ipa is ~120 usd but ofc doesnt work as good as hGH

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my current cycle would be ~150$ but if i would use hGH instead it would become ~350$

 

[Copercel]

im taking jonas his advice and inject every 3rd day, so ill do like 200mg each injection.

im asking if its 500 test per week or 250 basically