My depression is completely gone. Read this if you're fucked in the head.

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Been depressed my whole life. Literally. Testosterone didnt help (I probably had high T anyways). SSRIs made it worse (I probably had high serotonin before). Wellbutrin helped for a bit but eventually I stopped feeling any difference from taking it. Finasteride made it much worse. I also had very high systemic chronic inflammation. And a porn addiction to top if off. And a shitty adolescence. I have tried almost everything under the sun to help my situation. So this post is coming from years and years of experimenting with drugs, supplements, diets, hormones, and nootropics. There might be other useful stuff but this is what I know as of today.

Until I started taking a few supplements and implementing some lifestyle changes. This list includes some things I'm certain have helped me improve my mental health dramatically. Might add to it later. So aside from test and Wellbutrin this is what I'm doing.

Supplements

1. Progesterone. Literally the #1 thing that's helped me since I take both testosterone and finasteride, progesterone is the most important add-on to finasteride and/or TRT. The one I take is made by Ray Peat himself which includes vitamin E and MCT oil. Great product.

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2. NAC: N-acetyl-cysteine. Look it up. I started taking a very high dose of this twice a day (about 6 grams per day) and I swear on my molded dick that it has taken away over 50% of the negative emotions I feel, and makes me just feel very very good. It's probably related to brain inflammation. Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD, and helps with addiction. I can attest to all of these, even my porn habit seems better. NAC was taken off Amazon and most stores so you need to buy it from supplement companies directly, or get it on iHerb.com.

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3. Sulforaphane: Noticeably makes me feel better mentally. Promising studies show it reduces autism symptoms in adults and reduces depression, and can benefit health in many other ways. Buy the BroQ one on Amazon, it's a patented form of sulforaphane that just made it to the USA, it used to only be available as a prescription in France.

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4. Saffron. Originally an Iranian spice, very expensive. There are studies confirming it's very effective in treating depression. And I also have fucked up vision genetics and saffron is known to be good for macular degeneration. Clearly makes me feel more motivation but in a calming way. Hit or miss supplement imo, only get it from a good brand.

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5. Minerals: Zinc, magnesium, Lithium, Iodine, Selenium. These minerals clearly have helped me. Especially with sleep for the first three. This is a great multi-mineral supplement that doesn't contain iron or copper.

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6. Mucuna Pruriens. I tend to take it every day tbh, it might be better to cycle it though. Precursor to dopamine. Makes me clearly want to do things and gives me clean energy (as opposed to hardcore stimulants which cause horrible crashes). The first time I took Mucuna I was literally doing everything I had on my to-do list and was smiling through it, it made the act of getting things done feel good. Evidence also shows it increases androgen receptor density, fertility, and sexual function. Most brands are fine. I like this one.

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7. Vitamin D3. I'm naturally very pale so I probably have high vitamin D levels anyways, but in the winter I still get fucked in the head. This seems to help. And most of you curries and blacks definitely need it. Any brand works.

8. Aspirin. Good anti-inflammatory med. Might help some people. And it's good for your health. Any brand works.

What about diet?

I don't eat any added PUFAs. Period.
I don't eat any gluten. Period.
I drink alcohol only when I'm at parties, which is once or twice a month. Mostly I drink margaritas and sometimes fruit juice seltzers.

Most of my calories come from milk, yogurt, eggs, white rice, blueberries, bone broth, ground beef, ghee, orange juice, and raw honey. All animal products are grass fed with no antibiotics or hormones. Very good energy levels. Sometimes snack on carrots or other fruits. Sometimes ice cream lol.

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What about sleep?

Simple. I use a blue light blocker app on my phone. I take Ashwagandha, Apigenin, L-theanine, magnesium, drink some bone broth before bed for the glycine, and I sleep really good with that.

Other lifestyle habits?
- Lots of sunlight.
- I walk a lot if I can. I try to walk places when I can instead of driving. Luckily I live in a rural area so I can do it easier.
- Reducing my porn use gradually. I have a fucking girlfriend it's so pathetic to watch porn tbh ngl.
- Visiting my parents more and talking to family members more. Serious this can help a lot, so do it if you can.


Good luck hope this helps bros.

@OOGABOOGA @kjsbdfiusdf @Baldingman1998 @volcelfatcel @TsarTsar444 @Tony @lutte @MoeZart
 
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Saffron is legit? I have a lot in my house
 
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Sunlight in December :feelsmega:
 
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Been depressed my whole life. Literally. Testosterone didnt help (I probably had high T anyways). SSRIs made it worse (I probably had high serotonin before). Wellbutrin helped for a bit but eventually I stopped feeling any difference from taking it. Finasteride made it much worse. I also had very high systemic chronic inflammation. And a porn addiction to top if off. And a shitty adolescence. I have tried almost everything under the sun to help my situation. So this post is coming from years and years of experimenting with drugs, supplements, diets, hormones, and notorious. There might be other useful stuff but this is what I know as of today.

Until I started taking a few supplements and implementing some lifestyle changes. This list includes some things I'm certain have helped me improve my mental health dramatically. Might add to it later. So aside from test and Wellbutrin this is what I'm doing.

Supplements

1. Progesterone. Literally the #1 thing that's helped me since I take both testosterone and finasteride, progesterone is the most important add-on to finasteride and/or TRT. The one I take is made by Ray Peat himself which includes vitamin E and MCT oil. Great product.

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2. NAC: N-acetyl-cysteine. Look it up. I started taking a very high dose of this twice a day (about 6 grams per day) and I swear on my molded dick that it has taken away over 50% of the negative emotions I feel, and makes me just feel very very good. It's probably related to brain inflammation. Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD, and helps with addiction. I can attest to all of these, even my porn habit seems better. NAC was taken off Amazon and most stores so you need to buy it from supplement companies directly, or get it on iHerb.com.

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3. Sulforaphane: Noticeably makes me feel better mentally. Promising studies show it reduces autism symptoms in adults and reduces depression, and can benefit health in many other ways. Buy the BroQ one on Amazon, it's a patented form of sulforaphane that just made it to the USA, it used to only be available as a prescription in France.

View attachment 1423133


4. Saffron. Originally an Iranian spice, very expensive. There are studies confirming it's very effective in treating depression. And I also have fucked up vision genetics and saffron is known to be good for macular degeneration. Clearly makes me feel more motivation but in a calming way. Hit or miss supplement imo, only get it from a good brand.

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5. Minerals: Zinc, magnesium, Lithium, Iodine, Selenium. These minerals clearly have helped me. Especially with sleep for the first three. This is a great multi-mineral supplement that doesn't contain iron or copper.

View attachment 1423136

6. Mucuna Pruriens. I tend to take it every day tbh, it might be better to cycle it though. Precursor to dopamine. Makes me clearly want to do things and gives me clean energy (as opposed to hardcore stimulants which cause horrible crashes). The first time I took Mucuna I was literally doing everything I had on my to-do list and was smiling through it, it made the act of getting things done feel good. Evidence also shows it increases androgen receptor density, fertility, and sexual function. Most brands are fine. I like this one.

View attachment 1423137

7. Vitamin D3. I'm naturally very pale so I probably have high vitamin D levels anyways, but in the winter I still get fucked in the head. This seems to help. And most of you curries and blacks definitely need it. Any brand works.

8. Aspirin. Good anti-inflammatory med. Might help some people. And it's good for your health. Any brand works.

What about diet?

I don't eat any added PUFAs. Period.
I don't eat any gluten. Period.
I drink alcohol only when I'm at parties, which is once or twice a month. Mostly I drink margaritas and sometimes fruit juice seltzers.

Most of my calories come from milk, yogurt, eggs, white rice, blueberries, bone broth, ground beef, ghee, orange juice, and honey. All animal products are grass fed with no antibiotics or hormones. Very good energy levels. Sometimes snack on carrots or other fruits. Sometimes ice cream lol.

View attachment 1423142

What about sleep?

Simple. I use a blue light blocker app on my phone. I take Ashwagandha, Apigenin, L-theanine, magnesium, drink some bone broth before bed for the glycine, and I sleep really good with that.

Other lifestyle habits?
- Lots of sunlight.
- I walk a lot if I can. I try to walk places when I can instead of driving. Luckily I live in a rural area so I can do it easier.
- Reducing my porn use gradually. I have a fucking girlfriend it's so pathetic to watch porn tbh ngl.
- Visiting my parents more and talking to family members more. Serious this can help a lot, so do it if you can.


Good luck hope this helps bros.

@OOGABOOGA @kjsbdfiusdf @Baldingman1998 @volcelfatcel @TsarTsar444 @Tony @lutte @MoeZart

sunlight and good sleep + going out daily are fucking game changers for depression​

 
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Sunlight in December :feelsmega:
If you live in the UK or some shit hole like that move to a country with sunlight that humans require
 
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How much do you pay for all the stuff youre using?
 
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1.Did it help your relationship? Is the Khazar woman domestically abusing you?
2.How much is all this per month?
3.Do you have gyno?
 
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try meth. meth in small amounts is therapeutic :feelsgood:
 
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How much do you pay for all the stuff youre using?
A lot. But I don't care. The benefits outweigh the costs by far for me.

1.Did it help your relationship? Is the Khazar woman domestically abusing you?
2.How much is all this per month?
3.Do you have gyno?
1. Yes. Idk what Khazar is.
2. Probably a lot. But worth it for me.
3. I used to get nipple flare-ups from steroid use but I don't have gyno
 
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just consume a whole pharmacy everyday theory
 
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so eating an ancestral diet
 
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I think we all know some form of information to recover back to normal living, but have no substantial incentive to do so.
 
Good thread
 
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very extensive thread, if you had to narrow it down a bit, what would you say made the biggest difference? and how did you notice marginal increases like e.g. #8 aspirin after already taking 7 other products?

do you think you could cut out some of the steps you took and still would have come out in the same place, aka a cured depression?
 
very extensive thread, if you had to narrow it down a bit, what would you say made the biggest difference? and how did you notice marginal increases like e.g. #8 aspirin after already taking 7 other products?

do you think you could cut out some of the steps you took and still would have come out in the same place, aka a cured depression?
Biggest difference came from Progesterone, NAC, sulforaphane, reducing PUFAs, and the minerals. I'd say those were the most effective things
 
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tales from the aleppo bunkers
 
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How does the progesterone work?
Does it increase or lower progesterone?
 
How does the progesterone work?
Does it increase or lower progesterone?
The progesterone is specifically for people on finasteride or TRT. TRT reduces your progesterone so adding it back in is just another HRT. Finasteride reduces progesterone's conversion to allopregnanolone via 5ar which means it downstream leads to reduced GABA transmission which means anxiety and depression for some people. So taking extra progesterone is compensating for that
 
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The progesterone is specifically for people on finasteride or TRT. TRT reduces your progesterone so adding it back in is just another HRT. Finasteride reduces progesterone's conversion to allopregnanolone via 5ar which means it downstream leads to reduced GABA transmission which means anxiety and depression for some people. So taking extra progesterone is compensating for that
Ah oke. I did bloodwork. Think I tagged you and my progesterone was in the high side. Almost too high in the scale. So no point taking it for me then?
 
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Ah oke. I did bloodwork. Think I tagged you and my progesterone was in the high side. Almost too high in the scale. So no point taking it for me then?
Are u on finasteride?
 
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Do u take progesterone daily? And how much?
 
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Forward growth + hollow cheeks could fix my depression
 
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been taking NAC for a week 300 mg a day feel no change. should i take more?
 
been taking NAC for a week 300 mg a day feel no change. should i take more?
Bruh. I take 6000 mg jfl. It's not very bioavailable when taken orally. Make sure you take it on empty stomach too
 
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Mogger thread OP, very useful.

I would like to add, unironically not being as negative helped me as well

I used to constantly spiral into negative thoughts and assumed the worst of the world around me. Simply being more realistic or even positive helped me tremendously towards escaping depression.

It's not the same as "just be confident bro :soy:." It's just not approaching everything with limiting beliefs.
 
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Bruh. I take 6000 mg jfl. It's not very bioavailable when taken orally. Make sure you take it on empty stomach too
isnt 600 mg what most studies are done on
 
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Wait... Nuts are unhealthy because they contain some PUFAs? Vegetable oil is obviously total crap but nuts and seeds are pretty healthy.. why do you trash them?!
 
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Love you bro (I’m drunk as fuck but still real shit
 
Man I tried ssri just for fun 2 days ago and felt so shit till this morning. Just shows again how much our neurotransmitter/hormones control us.
Need to try progesterone some time tbh, but really one of the best mood boosters that gets the stone rolling is seeing a gl face in the mirror
 
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@kjsbdfiusdf Didnt hear feedback from you on this thread. Thoughts?
 
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@kjsbdfiusdf Didnt hear feedback from you on this thread. Thoughts?
Good thread, personally, I’d push more towards eating good food instead of relying on supplements, just my 2 cents though
 
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great thred, bookmarked
 
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Wait... Nuts are unhealthy because they contain some PUFAs? Vegetable oil is obviously total crap but nuts and seeds are pretty healthy.. why do you trash them?!
It’s literally the same thing
 
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I wonder who it could have been who told you to take progesterone aspirin and stop pufa
 
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I wonder who it could have been who told you to take progesterone aspirin and stop pufa
The Ray of holy light.
 
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Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD
It takes care of this AND it makes you feel better mentally? Sounds to good to be true. I have been suffering from OCD for a decade now.
 
It’s literally the same thing
No it's not. Vegetable oil is complete crap while nuts are healthy if eaten sparingly.
 

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