My depression is completely gone. Read this if you're fucked in the head.

Plastic surgery
 
Elaborate?
 
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Thanks for sharing, but you present so many variables that your personal experience is useless to anyone else.
 
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Tfw I do nothing of that and I am not depressed :feelsgood:
 
OldRooster said:
Thanks for sharing, but you present so many variables that your personal experience is useless to anyone else.
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Only variable is finasteride use, which many other users are on. What else do you mean
 
How often do you take Progesterone?
 
CupOfCoffee said:
Been depressed my whole life. Literally. Testosterone didnt help (I probably had high T anyways). SSRIs made it worse (I probably had high serotonin before). Wellbutrin helped for a bit but eventually I stopped feeling any difference from taking it. Finasteride made it much worse. I also had very high systemic chronic inflammation. And a porn addiction to top if off. And a shitty adolescence. I have tried almost everything under the sun to help my situation. So this post is coming from years and years of experimenting with drugs, supplements, diets, hormones, and nootropics. There might be other useful stuff but this is what I know as of today.

Until I started taking a few supplements and implementing some lifestyle changes. This list includes some things I'm certain have helped me improve my mental health dramatically. Might add to it later. So aside from test and Wellbutrin this is what I'm doing.

Supplements

1. Progesterone. Literally the #1 thing that's helped me since I take both testosterone and finasteride, progesterone is the most important add-on to finasteride and/or TRT. The one I take is made by Ray Peat himself which includes vitamin E and MCT oil. Great product.

View attachment 1423131

2. NAC: N-acetyl-cysteine. Look it up. I started taking a very high dose of this twice a day (about 6 grams per day) and I swear on my molded dick that it has taken away over 50% of the negative emotions I feel, and makes me just feel very very good. It's probably related to brain inflammation. Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD, and helps with addiction. I can attest to all of these, even my porn habit seems better. NAC was taken off Amazon and most stores so you need to buy it from supplement companies directly, or get it on iHerb.com.

View attachment 1423132

3. Sulforaphane: Noticeably makes me feel better mentally. Promising studies show it reduces autism symptoms in adults and reduces depression, and can benefit health in many other ways. Buy the BroQ one on Amazon, it's a patented form of sulforaphane that just made it to the USA, it used to only be available as a prescription in France.

View attachment 1423133


4. Saffron. Originally an Iranian spice, very expensive. There are studies confirming it's very effective in treating depression. And I also have fucked up vision genetics and saffron is known to be good for macular degeneration. Clearly makes me feel more motivation but in a calming way. Hit or miss supplement imo, only get it from a good brand.

View attachment 1423135

5. Minerals: Zinc, magnesium, Lithium, Iodine, Selenium. These minerals clearly have helped me. Especially with sleep for the first three. This is a great multi-mineral supplement that doesn't contain iron or copper.

View attachment 1423136

6. Mucuna Pruriens. I tend to take it every day tbh, it might be better to cycle it though. Precursor to dopamine. Makes me clearly want to do things and gives me clean energy (as opposed to hardcore stimulants which cause horrible crashes). The first time I took Mucuna I was literally doing everything I had on my to-do list and was smiling through it, it made the act of getting things done feel good. Evidence also shows it increases androgen receptor density, fertility, and sexual function. Most brands are fine. I like this one.

View attachment 1423137

7. Vitamin D3. I'm naturally very pale so I probably have high vitamin D levels anyways, but in the winter I still get fucked in the head. This seems to help. And most of you curries and blacks definitely need it. Any brand works.

8. Aspirin. Good anti-inflammatory med. Might help some people. And it's good for your health. Any brand works.

What about diet?

I don't eat any added PUFAs. Period.
I don't eat any gluten. Period.
I drink alcohol only when I'm at parties, which is once or twice a month. Mostly I drink margaritas and sometimes fruit juice seltzers.

Most of my calories come from milk, yogurt, eggs, white rice, blueberries, bone broth, ground beef, ghee, orange juice, and raw honey. All animal products are grass fed with no antibiotics or hormones. Very good energy levels. Sometimes snack on carrots or other fruits. Sometimes ice cream lol.

View attachment 1423142

What about sleep?

Simple. I use a blue light blocker app on my phone. I take Ashwagandha, Apigenin, L-theanine, magnesium, drink some bone broth before bed for the glycine, and I sleep really good with that.

Other lifestyle habits?
- Lots of sunlight.
- I walk a lot if I can. I try to walk places when I can instead of driving. Luckily I live in a rural area so I can do it easier.
- Reducing my porn use gradually. I have a fucking girlfriend it's so pathetic to watch porn tbh ngl.
- Visiting my parents more and talking to family members more. Serious this can help a lot, so do it if you can.

Good luck hope this helps bros.

@OOGABOOGA @kjsbdfiusdf @Baldingman1998 @volcelfatcel @TsarTsar444 @Tony @lutte @MoeZart
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all of this shit just to function like a regular human being

over for 21st century cells
 
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CupOfCoffee said:
Biggest difference came from Progesterone, NAC, sulforaphane, reducing PUFAs, and the minerals. I'd say those were the most effective things
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reducing PUFAs is legit but jews put it in fucking everything these days and it drives me mad

 
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Thanks Op will give it a go
 
CupOfCoffee said:
The progesterone is specifically for people on finasteride or TRT. TRT reduces your progesterone so adding it back in is just another HRT. Finasteride reduces progesterone's conversion to allopregnanolone via 5ar which means it downstream leads to reduced GABA transmission which means anxiety and depression for some people. So taking extra progesterone is compensating for that
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Why take progesterone on fin if it cant convert to allopreganolone
 
wollet2 said:
Why take progesterone on fin if it cant convert to allopreganolone
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It just converts less, so taking more progesterone makes up for that
 
CupOfCoffee said:
It just converts less, so taking more progesterone makes up for that
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What if it converts none. Can you take allopreganolone? Are there other things it converts too?
 
wollet2 said:
What if it converts none. Can you take allopreganolone? Are there other things it converts too?
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Yeah but it's not easy to get allo. And I'm not sure
 
inferiorpispot234 said:
>depression
>girlfriend

this is what it seems like to me. unwarp my perception if its not true
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Getting a gf did NOT fix my depression at all dude. Infact I think it got slightly worse ngl, probably cuz more expectations/stress on me and I'm getting into my mid twenties etc.
 
CupOfCoffee said:
Getting a gf did NOT fix my depression at all dude. Infact I think it got slightly worse ngl, probably cuz more expectations/stress on me and I'm getting into my mid twenties etc.
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how do i get over the suicidal-thoughts-inducing FOMO of it?
 
Isn't Progesterone tranny drug?
 
inferiorpispot234 said:
how do i get over the suicidal-thoughts-inducing FOMO of it?
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Take care of yourself, Looksmax, make money, and just talk to girls around you. Find some hobbies you like and get involved with girls in that
 
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CupOfCoffee said:
Take care of yourself, Looksmax, make money, and just talk to girls around you. Find some hobbies you like and get involved with girls in that
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Thx :feelsbadman:
 
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CupOfCoffee said:
Been depressed my whole life. Literally. Testosterone didnt help (I probably had high T anyways). SSRIs made it worse (I probably had high serotonin before). Wellbutrin helped for a bit but eventually I stopped feeling any difference from taking it. Finasteride made it much worse. I also had very high systemic chronic inflammation. And a porn addiction to top if off. And a shitty adolescence. I have tried almost everything under the sun to help my situation. So this post is coming from years and years of experimenting with drugs, supplements, diets, hormones, and nootropics. There might be other useful stuff but this is what I know as of today.

Until I started taking a few supplements and implementing some lifestyle changes. This list includes some things I'm certain have helped me improve my mental health dramatically. Might add to it later. So aside from test and Wellbutrin this is what I'm doing.

Supplements

1. Progesterone. Literally the #1 thing that's helped me since I take both testosterone and finasteride, progesterone is the most important add-on to finasteride and/or TRT. The one I take is made by Ray Peat himself which includes vitamin E and MCT oil. Great product.

View attachment 1423131

2. NAC: N-acetyl-cysteine. Look it up. I started taking a very high dose of this twice a day (about 6 grams per day) and I swear on my molded dick that it has taken away over 50% of the negative emotions I feel, and makes me just feel very very good. It's probably related to brain inflammation. Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD, and helps with addiction. I can attest to all of these, even my porn habit seems better. NAC was taken off Amazon and most stores so you need to buy it from supplement companies directly, or get it on iHerb.com.

View attachment 1423132

3. Sulforaphane: Noticeably makes me feel better mentally. Promising studies show it reduces autism symptoms in adults and reduces depression, and can benefit health in many other ways. Buy the BroQ one on Amazon, it's a patented form of sulforaphane that just made it to the USA, it used to only be available as a prescription in France.

View attachment 1423133


4. Saffron. Originally an Iranian spice, very expensive. There are studies confirming it's very effective in treating depression. And I also have fucked up vision genetics and saffron is known to be good for macular degeneration. Clearly makes me feel more motivation but in a calming way. Hit or miss supplement imo, only get it from a good brand.

View attachment 1423135

5. Minerals: Zinc, magnesium, Lithium, Iodine, Selenium. These minerals clearly have helped me. Especially with sleep for the first three. This is a great multi-mineral supplement that doesn't contain iron or copper.

View attachment 1423136

6. Mucuna Pruriens. I tend to take it every day tbh, it might be better to cycle it though. Precursor to dopamine. Makes me clearly want to do things and gives me clean energy (as opposed to hardcore stimulants which cause horrible crashes). The first time I took Mucuna I was literally doing everything I had on my to-do list and was smiling through it, it made the act of getting things done feel good. Evidence also shows it increases androgen receptor density, fertility, and sexual function. Most brands are fine. I like this one.

View attachment 1423137

7. Vitamin D3. I'm naturally very pale so I probably have high vitamin D levels anyways, but in the winter I still get fucked in the head. This seems to help. And most of you curries and blacks definitely need it. Any brand works.

8. Aspirin. Good anti-inflammatory med. Might help some people. And it's good for your health. Any brand works.

What about diet?

I don't eat any added PUFAs. Period.
I don't eat any gluten. Period.
I drink alcohol only when I'm at parties, which is once or twice a month. Mostly I drink margaritas and sometimes fruit juice seltzers.

Most of my calories come from milk, yogurt, eggs, white rice, blueberries, bone broth, ground beef, ghee, orange juice, and raw honey. All animal products are grass fed with no antibiotics or hormones. Very good energy levels. Sometimes snack on carrots or other fruits. Sometimes ice cream lol.

View attachment 1423142

What about sleep?

Simple. I use a blue light blocker app on my phone. I take Ashwagandha, Apigenin, L-theanine, magnesium, drink some bone broth before bed for the glycine, and I sleep really good with that.

Other lifestyle habits?
- Lots of sunlight.
- I walk a lot if I can. I try to walk places when I can instead of driving. Luckily I live in a rural area so I can do it easier.
- Reducing my porn use gradually. I have a fucking girlfriend it's so pathetic to watch porn tbh ngl.
- Visiting my parents more and talking to family members more. Serious this can help a lot, so do it if you can.

Good luck hope this helps bros.

@OOGABOOGA @kjsbdfiusdf @Baldingman1998 @volcelfatcel @TsarTsar444 @Tony @lutte @MoeZart
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what exactly does progesterone do, how did it be the main factor in curing your depression? idk much about hormones but im a gymcel and on TRT would it be any use to me or nah
 
Is your depression still gone?
 
@CupOfCoffee just checking in, do you still feel good?
 
CupOfCoffee said:
Been depressed my whole life. Literally. Testosterone didnt help (I probably had high T anyways). SSRIs made it worse (I probably had high serotonin before). Wellbutrin helped for a bit but eventually I stopped feeling any difference from taking it. Finasteride made it much worse. I also had very high systemic chronic inflammation. And a porn addiction to top if off. And a shitty adolescence. I have tried almost everything under the sun to help my situation. So this post is coming from years and years of experimenting with drugs, supplements, diets, hormones, and nootropics. There might be other useful stuff but this is what I know as of today.

Until I started taking a few supplements and implementing some lifestyle changes. This list includes some things I'm certain have helped me improve my mental health dramatically. Might add to it later. So aside from test and Wellbutrin this is what I'm doing.

Supplements

1. Progesterone. Literally the #1 thing that's helped me since I take both testosterone and finasteride, progesterone is the most important add-on to finasteride and/or TRT. The one I take is made by Ray Peat himself which includes vitamin E and MCT oil. Great product.

View attachment 1423131

2. NAC: N-acetyl-cysteine. Look it up. I started taking a very high dose of this twice a day (about 6 grams per day) and I swear on my molded dick that it has taken away over 50% of the negative emotions I feel, and makes me just feel very very good. It's probably related to brain inflammation. Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD, and helps with addiction. I can attest to all of these, even my porn habit seems better. NAC was taken off Amazon and most stores so you need to buy it from supplement companies directly, or get it on iHerb.com.

View attachment 1423132

3. Sulforaphane: Noticeably makes me feel better mentally. Promising studies show it reduces autism symptoms in adults and reduces depression, and can benefit health in many other ways. Buy the BroQ one on Amazon, it's a patented form of sulforaphane that just made it to the USA, it used to only be available as a prescription in France.

View attachment 1423133


4. Saffron. Originally an Iranian spice, very expensive. There are studies confirming it's very effective in treating depression. And I also have fucked up vision genetics and saffron is known to be good for macular degeneration. Clearly makes me feel more motivation but in a calming way. Hit or miss supplement imo, only get it from a good brand.

View attachment 1423135

5. Minerals: Zinc, magnesium, Lithium, Iodine, Selenium. These minerals clearly have helped me. Especially with sleep for the first three. This is a great multi-mineral supplement that doesn't contain iron or copper.

View attachment 1423136

6. Mucuna Pruriens. I tend to take it every day tbh, it might be better to cycle it though. Precursor to dopamine. Makes me clearly want to do things and gives me clean energy (as opposed to hardcore stimulants which cause horrible crashes). The first time I took Mucuna I was literally doing everything I had on my to-do list and was smiling through it, it made the act of getting things done feel good. Evidence also shows it increases androgen receptor density, fertility, and sexual function. Most brands are fine. I like this one.

View attachment 1423137

7. Vitamin D3. I'm naturally very pale so I probably have high vitamin D levels anyways, but in the winter I still get fucked in the head. This seems to help. And most of you curries and blacks definitely need it. Any brand works.

8. Aspirin. Good anti-inflammatory med. Might help some people. And it's good for your health. Any brand works.

What about diet?

I don't eat any added PUFAs. Period.
I don't eat any gluten. Period.
I drink alcohol only when I'm at parties, which is once or twice a month. Mostly I drink margaritas and sometimes fruit juice seltzers.

Most of my calories come from milk, yogurt, eggs, white rice, blueberries, bone broth, ground beef, ghee, orange juice, and raw honey. All animal products are grass fed with no antibiotics or hormones. Very good energy levels. Sometimes snack on carrots or other fruits. Sometimes ice cream lol.

View attachment 1423142

What about sleep?

Simple. I use a blue light blocker app on my phone. I take Ashwagandha, Apigenin, L-theanine, magnesium, drink some bone broth before bed for the glycine, and I sleep really good with that.

Other lifestyle habits?
- Lots of sunlight.
- I walk a lot if I can. I try to walk places when I can instead of driving. Luckily I live in a rural area so I can do it easier.
- Reducing my porn use gradually. I have a fucking girlfriend it's so pathetic to watch porn tbh ngl.
- Visiting my parents more and talking to family members more. Serious this can help a lot, so do it if you can.

Good luck hope this helps bros.

@OOGABOOGA @kjsbdfiusdf @Baldingman1998 @volcelfatcel @TsarTsar444 @Tony @lutte @MoeZart
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When I first touched a girl I stopped porn for 2 months
What was wrong w ur adolescence
 
Someone who gives a fuck about me would cure my depression. This is why I come to this site.
 
stevielake said:
Someone who gives a fuck about me would cure my depression. This is why I come to this site.
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You need sexy feet in your life. Best antidepressant ever

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jahsuuu said:
Is your depression still gone?
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On and off probably due to the breakup. Not horrible tho I'm coping pretty well alhamdulillah
 
CupOfCoffee said:
2. NAC: N-acetyl-cysteine. Look it up. I started taking a very high dose of this twice a day (about 6 grams per day) and I swear on my molded dick that it has taken away over 50% of the negative emotions I feel, and makes me just feel very very good. It's probably related to brain inflammation. Evidence does show it reduces symptoms of autism and OCD, and helps with addiction. I can attest to all of these, even my porn habit seems better. NAC was taken off Amazon and most stores so you need to buy it from supplement companies directly, or get it on iHerb.com.
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How long do i have to take this untul it starts to work ?
 
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