My final opinion on morality

[ey88]

Morality doesn’t exist

Whatever benefits you most is “good”

 

[Seba]

Truth

 

[BimaxLaser]

 

[ey88]

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Not really

I’m literally posting this because in my other thread people were arguing about this

 

[AlbinoMaxxer]

Dangerous way of thinking

 

[ey88]

Dangerous way of thinking

Why?

 

[AlbinoMaxxer]

Why?

Life without morales is a very reckless life, u need to teach ur future kids morals or they’ll be rogue

 

[14vic]

Morality doesn’t exist

Whatever benefits you most is “good”

Eudemonism

 

[ey88]

Life without morales is a very reckless life, u need to teach ur future kids morals or they’ll be rogue

You need to teach them man made rules so they can determine what is actually best for them

 

[Daddy's Home]

How to test the number of online NPC users in this forum right now in less than an hour..

 

[laaltin]

Lil bro had to come with a final opinion lol.

My first opinion: Morality is gay asf

 

[Avertion]

Morality doesn’t exist

Whatever benefits you most is “good”

I agree

 

[IBlameHoax]

Morality doesn’t exist

Whatever benefits you most is “good”

Do you believe in Karma?

 

[Tom Jones]

Everyone has their own sets of morals. Everyone religious and non religious alike

 

[ey88]

Do you believe in Karma?

No

 

[acme]

This is how everyone operates

Being selfless doesn't exist unless you're severely mentally ill

 

[ey88]

Everyone has their own sets of morals. Everyone religious and non religious alike

Everyone has their own rules and sense of empathy

 

[ey88]

This is how everyone operates

Being selfless doesn't exist unless you're severely mentally ill

Exactly, they just don’t realize that they are only doing good things for others because it benefits them

 

[toji.]

Morality doesn’t exist

Whatever benefits you most is “good”

This is utilitarianism, and one of the problems with the general idea of this ethical system -it acts in favor of the greatest benefit for society- apart from the idea of calculability of what is benefit, is that all acts have negative externalities, and the former are always incalculable. In other words, you can help a person in a street situation with some coins, but maybe that person can be a serial murderer, who, with the coins you gave, buys a knife and kills a person, in that sense your act did not generate a benefit to society, in fact it generated more pain than anything else, the pain of the families, the pain that the murdered person lived, etc.

In general, Ethics studies these moral systems, and the curious thing is that the system of the greatest benefit for the majority is also morality.

 

[134applesauce456]

this view of morality is flawed because it ignores the reality that humans live in communities where actions impact others. If everyone acted purely for self-benefit then trust, cooperation, and social harmony would break down, making it harder for anyone to thrive (even yourself) Morality exists as a framework to balance individual needs with the wellbeing of others. True “good” isn’t just about personal gain

True good = a world where everyone has the opportunity to benefit and live well.

I mean would you want to live in a world where everyone was selfishness and only acted for themselves ???

and don't say we don't need eachother because we 100% do!! we are social creatures

 

[ey88]

This is utilitarianism, and one of the problems with the general idea of this ethical system -it acts in favor of the greatest benefit for society- apart from the idea of calculability of what is benefit, is that all acts have negative externalities, and the former are always incalculable. In other words, you can help a person in a street situation with some coins, but maybe that person can be a serial murderer, who, with the coins you gave, buys a knife and kills a person, in that sense your act did not generate a benefit to society, in fact it generated more pain than anything else, the pain of the families, the pain that the murdered person lived, etc.

In general, Ethics studies these moral systems, and the curious thing is that the system of the greatest benefit for the majority is also morality.

Utilitarianism is the best for everyone isn’t it?

I’m saying whatever is best for yourself is good

 

[ey88]

I mean would you want to live in a world where everyone was selfishness and only acted for themselves ???

We live in one right now

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Life without morales is a very reckless life, u need to teach ur future kids morals or they’ll be rogue

Said the guy who wants who have swinger sex lmao

 

[Klasik616]

Eudemonism

This is not eudemonism this is egoism

 

[anthony111553]

killing someone who did nothing to me is immortal however if it can benifit me then i can look past it

 

[Tom Jones]

this view of morality is flawed because it ignores the reality that humans live in communities where actions impact others. If everyone acted purely for self-benefit then trust, cooperation, and social harmony would break down, making it harder for anyone to thrive (even yourself) Morality exists as a framework to balance individual needs with the wellbeing of others. True “good” isn’t just about personal gain

True good = a world where everyone has the opportunity to benefit and live well.

I mean would you want to live in a world where everyone was selfishness and only acted for themselves ???

and don't say we don't need eachother because we 100% do!! we are social creatures

It benefits you if you can get help from your community and stuff like that so I think his point still stands

 

[ey88]

killing someone who did nothing to me is immortal however if it can benifit me then i can look past it

Basically if what you get out of it outweighs your negatives feelings of empathy it is moral

 

[Klasik616]

killing someone who did nothing to me is immortal however if it can benifit me then i can look past it

How killing someone can benefit you, in what case is necessary

 

[anthony111553]

Basically if what you get out of it outweighs your negatives feelings of empathy it is moral

no it is still immoral

 

[ey88]

How killing someone can benefit you, in what case is necessary

To steal

 

[Lokki]

You still need morals, since almost all things eventually benefit you, just not fast or strongly

 

[Poopless One]

Nigger take. Good is good and evil is evil.

 

[ey88]

no it is still immoral

Why?

 

[anthony111553]

How killing someone can benefit you, in what case is necessary

im at a job and the person who's about to get a big promotion that would've went to me, stuff like that

 

[134applesauce456]

We live in one right now

yep, and it's literally hell

people are dying/suffering , being killed by things like war and selfish desires as we speak

 

[anthony111553]

Why?

cause it would go against my morals

 

[Lokki]

Basically if what you get out of it outweighs your negatives feelings of empathy it is moral

I think the name for that is egoism

 

[ey88]

cause it would go against my morals

Morals don’t exist

You just know that it won’t be good for your life

 

[DeadmansWonderland]

This is not eudemonism this is egoism

Egoism is the le funny. Morality is a spook.

Morality doesn’t exist

Whatever benefits you most is “good”

Hm. Idk. It may be good for me to kill someone if they inconvenience me, but it doesn't make it morally acceptable. But I guess that is why laws exist.

 

[toji.]

Utilitarianism is the best for everyone isn’t it?

I’m saying whatever is best for yourself is good

This theory can be taken to the individual point, since Mill, the creator of utilitarianism, wrote this theory on the basis of consequentialism ( that is, one should act according to those actions that produce less negative and more positive consequences). The version, if it can be called that, of individual utilitarianism is what is called ethical egoism, which is based directly on the idea of acting for individual benefit. The problem is the same as I mentioned before, it is not possible to measure the benefit, because every act can have unexpected negative consequences, one can be short term and say that if you act based on the greatest benefit in the present, but this idea crumbles after the sum of acts that converge in the possibility of acts that lead to discomfort (for example, consuming alcohol because in the short term it gives you pleasure, but if you add up all the times you have consumed alcohol, you become stupid).​

 

[Dev_Frankfurt]

nah, it's not that simple. even bentham knew this

 

[Thebuffdon]

Basically agree

 

[Dev_Frankfurt]

This theory can be taken to the individual point, since Mill, the creator of utilitarianism, wrote this theory on the basis of consequentialism ( that is, one should act according to those actions that produce less negative and more positive consequences). The version, if it can be called that, of individual utilitarianism is what is called ethical egoism, which is based directly on the idea of acting for individual benefit. The problem is the same as I mentioned before, it is not possible to measure the benefit, because every act can have unexpected negative consequences, one can be short term and say that if you act based on the greatest benefit in the present, but this idea crumbles after the sum of acts that converge in the possibility of acts that lead to discomfort (for example, consuming alcohol because in the short term it gives you pleasure, but if you add up all the times you have consumed alcohol, you become stupid).​

good post. funny we thought about utilitarianism simultaneously. wouldn't expect such content on this retarded 15 yo infested site

 

[ey88]

nah, it's not that simple. even bentham knew this

It is

Idek who fucking bentham is

 

[Klasik616]

To steal

Is not necessary to kill someone if you wanna steal, if the other person defends himself and you only want to steal you might knock out him not necessary to kill. If you kill you're doing it for the pleasure of killing if the other person you're dealing with is not agaisnt you.

 

[anthony111553]

Morals don’t exist

You just know that it won’t be good for your life

not true at all

 

[ey88]

not true at all

Prove me wrong

 

[anthony111553]

Prove me wrong

how would i prove you wrong? maybe you just have no morals

 

[Lokki]

I think every single person should talk to a proper priest atleast once, talking to my confirmation school priest was incredible and made me understand life in a completely different way

He is one of the Best people in theology ive ever met, his father was even a bishop which probably made him even more Intelligent

 

[toji.]

Morals don’t exist

You just know that it won’t be good for your life

dude, that's morality, (“a person's standards of right and wrong”).

The fact that you categorize something as good or bad means that you have morality in your questioning and horizon of meaning.