Anti-Religion thread

Idealism is self refuting due to the fact that you must believe that ideas exist and that non-material exists. You’re speaking within concepts, again its a stupid paradox and there won’t be any kind of ending to the questioning. Reject realism and materialism because its all just concepts. But that thought process in itself can and is just a concept. The argument here ignores the obvious reality by constant questioning of how one comes to conclusions or that their world/system is just a concept and not rooted in some kind of concept-reality which also within idealism does not exist. I think this is pretty silly seeing i can literally see it all to be real, regardless of how much you question me within human-made languages and thought-concepts. I still am understanding of what surrounds me without the need for concepts, these concepts only contextualize what is real. For the most part.

Idealism is just an idea. As cliche as it may sound
I think you're confusing idealism with some kind of materialistic solipsism. Go at least read the definitions. LOL.
 
why do you use fucking logic, if according to you senses are the truth. SENSES
I would say senses would go hand in hand with what is logical. I come to logical conclusions and i sense when something doesnt have any logic behind it, just feelings.

Theists will repress their logical senses, and follow a religion that is illogical to these senses. Has alot to do with morality since humans usually convert to christianity willingly due to how it makes sense within a moral perspective of life. Their logical senses repress themselves in order to follow this concept of morality that they have been disciplined and indoctrinated into. And so logicality is repressed then
 
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I would say senses would go hand in hand with what is logical. I come to logical conclusions and i sense when something doesnt have any logic behind it, just feelings.

Theists will repress their logical senses, and follow a religion that is illogical to these senses. Has alot to do with morality since humans usually convert to christianity willingly due to how it makes sense within a moral perspective of life. Their logical senses repress themselves in order to follow this concept of morality that they have been disciplined and indoctrinated into. And so logicality is repressed then
go read what logic is. It cannot be sensual, logic is not material
 
I agree with you and the religious people replying with hate are coping cause they’ve spent their life worshipping a figment of imagination. I wanna have this broadcasted to the world
 
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I think you're confusing idealism with some kind of materialistic solipsism. Go at least read the definitions. LOL.
Idealism is
the belief that reality is fundamentally mental, spiritual, or idea-based, and that consciousness is the primary aspect of existence. This philosophical perspective has two main branches: metaphysical idealism, which holds that reality is fundamentally mental, and epistemological idealism, which posits that our knowledge is limited to the mental or perceptual realm.


“Mental” is a concept “spiritual” is a concept “consciousness” is a concept everything listed is a concept or an idea

Idealism seems to be the idea that everything is somewhat subjective. Ideas, nothing to do with any sort of “reality” basically since its all subjective it seems. Or it could be that it rejects the idea of a “material” world entirely. Sounds pretty gay and transhumanist both sides imo.

Still all of this seems contradictory and doesn’t prove God, idealism only says that everything is but a concept except for whatever the fuck. Or nothing even, but even then it still relies on ideas to float and exist.
 
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go read what logic is. It cannot be sensual, logic is not material
You are seriously such an idiot. You can literally sense/feel when something is logical/isnt. Logic is rooted in the material, its by seeing the logic in the material that you feel this. You cant make any logic out of christ or anything of the sorts. But im guessing you already understand God isn’t real then. Since these are just ideas, you’re just trying to debate about some other bullshit now. Which is making me confused
 
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go read what logic is. It cannot be sensual, logic is not material
Seems to me your entire argument just ends with this idealistic bullshit about how its all just concepts- i don’t know if you believe there’s anything above all concepts, which would be a grounded thing. And that everything else is just an idea, either way just an Incredibly retarded anti-intellectual take and i don’t get how you unironically would use this paradoxical shit as an argument against me. Sure bro perception can be subjective. But its just perception, and reality is only suppressed by such perception of life.
 
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there’s a difference between your christian morality and my idea of morality. I believe that killing one’s self would be bad, you believe that killing someone else is bad. I don’t focus on some kind of egalitarian system. my morality is fully dependent on however i might intrinsically feel, and hasn’t anything to do with universal goods and badbads. A man who represses himself in the name of morality will be doing something that is bad, because it hinders his own ability to do as he biologically wishes
I somehwat dnr’d your thread but it seems you agree with me that morality is subjective in which case why do you write a whole ah paragraph addressing egalitarian morality why not directly argue subjective morality? You plan on going and arguing against every single moral system separately or what
 

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