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1. Don’t run steroids other than test and always run low dose GH for your 1st cycle
I don’t care if you have liver support or ancillaries you should only be running test and GH for your first cycle. No Anavar and no secondaries
2. You will see fat redistribution
Your face legs and arms will become leaner but your torso will become fatter. Anyone online who claims they naturally store fat in their chest and abdominal region while having shredded arms and legs is more than likely on something
3. Don’t use compounds other than how they are commonly used
I know I said only test and GH for your first cycle but I tried var for a lean bulk and it’s simply not worth it. It shines on a cut because of how anticatabolic it is and I wish I used something like lgd or an actual bulking compound instead (assuming I had still chosen to use a 3rd compound). Though I dont think I’ll be buying any more orals as I don’t respond well to them (extreme fatigue and nuked shbg while on them)
4. 250-400 test is enough
People recommend 500 test for a first cycle it’s like no shit the gains will be linearly better just enjoy the shit sides of aromasin from its metabolites (even assuming perfect dosing and e2 levels) and the water retention. Most of you guys haven’t been in the gym for 2 years to be needing 500 test you will make noticeable gains as long as you eat enough. Even for me I made very noticeable gains after 20 weeks of bulking out of the past 30 while only using actual roids for 10 of those 20 weeks as I’m still a beginner (only been training for 1.5 years with only the past 6 months being serious with good form/regimen)
5. It’s never just 1 cycle
While test alone is very unlikely to harm your health long term especially at only 200-300 mg weekly given proper ancillaries, it’s very unlikely you will go off completely. For me I more than likely (95% chance) won’t abuse compounds like tren or mast or primo or certain orals like many gymcels do but I’m very tempted to just be on test for life. The most tempting thing is adding EQ as a secondary or trying sarms but I feel like this addiction does depend on how your PCT goes and how much of your gains you keep though I’m mostly concerned about keeping the extra facial angularity I got from being able to maintain such leanness so effortlessly on cycle. Though you will most likely get addicted to the results and want to hop back on even if it’s at a cruise dose
6. The riskiest part about hopping on is injecting into a vein
I got pretty much no acne anywhere on cycle which was the side effect I feared most. The riskiest part about doing test is injecting into a vein
7. Forget GH secretagogues
They do nothing but fry your pituitary gland. Even with GHRHs and GHRPs you still rely on the feedback loop so why would you just not bypass it with real GH? Plus the price difference is minimal and GH might even be cheaper per IU [of GH you produce] so you might as well just use it instead
I have some more takeaways but I’m too lazy to write them as I don’t think people will care enough to read this thread in full anyway
I don’t care if you have liver support or ancillaries you should only be running test and GH for your first cycle. No Anavar and no secondaries
2. You will see fat redistribution
Your face legs and arms will become leaner but your torso will become fatter. Anyone online who claims they naturally store fat in their chest and abdominal region while having shredded arms and legs is more than likely on something
3. Don’t use compounds other than how they are commonly used
I know I said only test and GH for your first cycle but I tried var for a lean bulk and it’s simply not worth it. It shines on a cut because of how anticatabolic it is and I wish I used something like lgd or an actual bulking compound instead (assuming I had still chosen to use a 3rd compound). Though I dont think I’ll be buying any more orals as I don’t respond well to them (extreme fatigue and nuked shbg while on them)
4. 250-400 test is enough
People recommend 500 test for a first cycle it’s like no shit the gains will be linearly better just enjoy the shit sides of aromasin from its metabolites (even assuming perfect dosing and e2 levels) and the water retention. Most of you guys haven’t been in the gym for 2 years to be needing 500 test you will make noticeable gains as long as you eat enough. Even for me I made very noticeable gains after 20 weeks of bulking out of the past 30 while only using actual roids for 10 of those 20 weeks as I’m still a beginner (only been training for 1.5 years with only the past 6 months being serious with good form/regimen)
5. It’s never just 1 cycle
While test alone is very unlikely to harm your health long term especially at only 200-300 mg weekly given proper ancillaries, it’s very unlikely you will go off completely. For me I more than likely (95% chance) won’t abuse compounds like tren or mast or primo or certain orals like many gymcels do but I’m very tempted to just be on test for life. The most tempting thing is adding EQ as a secondary or trying sarms but I feel like this addiction does depend on how your PCT goes and how much of your gains you keep though I’m mostly concerned about keeping the extra facial angularity I got from being able to maintain such leanness so effortlessly on cycle. Though you will most likely get addicted to the results and want to hop back on even if it’s at a cruise dose
6. The riskiest part about hopping on is injecting into a vein
I got pretty much no acne anywhere on cycle which was the side effect I feared most. The riskiest part about doing test is injecting into a vein
7. Forget GH secretagogues
They do nothing but fry your pituitary gland. Even with GHRHs and GHRPs you still rely on the feedback loop so why would you just not bypass it with real GH? Plus the price difference is minimal and GH might even be cheaper per IU [of GH you produce] so you might as well just use it instead
I have some more takeaways but I’m too lazy to write them as I don’t think people will care enough to read this thread in full anyway