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Mhmmm I asked what your occupation would be n your couldnt even answerlso I am in high school and I am starting to work by myself but I'm not getting a fucking job. Also JFL at you thinking school or a "job" is the way to live life.
Most Startup buisness owner's went to prestigious School's btw, based on your reply you are for sure not high IQ and your perception of reality is extremely warped. Your either chronically online or dont have a basic understanding of finances and economics.JFL at you thinking school or a "job" is the way to live life.
Doesnt even make senseAnd also the procedures would just pay for themselves over time even if I was going to be a wagecuck.
You clearly have your aesthetic plan set and tied it to your identity for hope that you can be something that you statically wont, similar to a Senior playing JV thinking about the NBAAnd wtf is a hobby supposed to do for me
LL is not THAT BAD if you do it in the good clinic, it's 3-4 months intensive recovery in the clinic and full recovery in 12-18months post op but even then, I ideally won't need to do it if even half of the stuff I mentioned works, and if it doesn't LLS is still worth it.Let even hypothetically assume this where to go through:
On top of that your going to be missing your prime year's even if yuo where to do a double jaw + LL, wont even look normal nor walk normal till 24-25 n by than all thoose years of accuring experiences that cant be replicated will never happen again.
Say goodbye to a first love,
Say goodbye to college lifestyle / experience /parites and slaying
Say goodbye to not having responsibilities and jus going out and having fun with people who dont have responsibilities
Say goodbye to traveling with friend's to Cancun during spring break to slay Latina's before semester ends
You will never get these experiences back
Majority of people who are getting these procedure's are workaholics or have insane money cause they made there identity tied to work to the point they could afford it n jus said fuck it or did it for medical reasons covered by insurance.
Im not even tryna be mean OP, but the reason I said find a hobby is cause maybe one day that hobby might actually make you some money n becoming very good at it just might make it more realistic.
Many Dweller's on this forumn who delete the profile regret:
Waiting to live until they become perfect, because Perfection never actually arrives n they realize it year's later
Okay so first of all you’re 15 years old by you’re bone age and you fucking except to grow 10 inches from hgh be happy if you even grow 0.5 inch from hgh jflThis is my FULL plan to ascend from my current P90-95 face to true CHAD status by 20yo (1 in 50kish face). I 100% will follow this plan (obviously there will be some minor tweaks with time but still).
For context, I turned 16 2 weeks ago but I THINK have delayed bone age by almost a year and also I have had fucked up sleep, chronic stress and poor diet for the last 4+ years so I will be fixing that.
Current stats:
75% Harmony, 6 Angularity, 6 dimorphism, 9 features
5’7 1/2, 120lbs, 15% body fat, 40cm biacromial
dark brown eyes, Fitz III, black hair (75% European, 25% amerindian)
7.5in NBPEL, 5.25in girth, -20º curve
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SOFTMAXXES:
- Sleep: I’ve been fixing my sleep and am ACTUALLY asleep 8-10 hours every night, average 9h
- Diet: I drink 1L milk everyday, once I can afford it ill do 2L raw every day. I don't eat much processed stuff anymore but I will get rid of it fully eventually and eat more meat and stuff. Also on a slight caloric surplus.
- Stress: I just stopped caring jfl
- gymcelling: I currently only do 3sets of lateral raises EOD and 3 sets of pullovers for ribcage expansion EOD but once I hop on I’ll gymcel fully
- copelements:
Magnesium ,boron, d3k2, zinc, omega3s im taking right now,
soon ill start with antioxidants (lycopene+astaxanthin) to fix my coloring and get some jbw, im a natural Fitz III so skin color should be almost ideal.
next ill do: glycine, vitamin c, manganese, silica, msm for skin, cartilage and height (prob not more than like 2cm over many years but still), leucine and glutathione (first oral and then injectable, ive heard it helps with jbw too).
- Posture: it’s obviously cope but I do have kinda severe FHP so ill fix that, hopefully I can gain at least 1cm from this.
- Skincare: just the typical cleanse moisture protect (spf50+ pa++++)
+ Accutane: I started low dose isotret. 2 months ago (10mg/day) and I bumped to 20mg a couple days ago, my acne is pretty much my biggest and only big features issue so that will be great, also it reduces nose bulbousness a bit and that would help me too.
- eyebrowmaxxing: ill do topical minoxidil + derma penning, ive tried castor oil for 2 months didn't do shit
- eye color: may not work but ill experiment with levobunolol for years and see, if it works I would have essentially perfect coloring by like 23, if not it’s over for me
- Masseter training: Ill train my masseters JUST A LITTLE BIT, my bigonial width is ALMOST ideal but it’s not really square so I’ll experiment with it, not so much that I look like fucking Connor Murphy or some shit like that obviously
- Teeth: whitening strips + Invisalign
- mouth stretching: I will experiment with a microstamia prevention device to make my mouth a bit wider, not a huge issue I have but why not
- bonesmashing: day a I do malars and infras, day b I do chin and supras. it works but obviously nothing compared to the hardmaxes
- penis pumping: I have ideal length (7.5 NBPEL prob will reach 8 with the stuff ill mention later on anyway) but girth could be better (5.25→6.25) so this will help get some of it.
- Curvature optimization: My penis is fucking curved downwards (it’s like -20º, ideal is 10-20º upwards), I don't really know how it can be fixed exactly but I’ve heard that it’s possible on PE forums by like brutally bending your cock with a fucking metal bender or smth jfl so ill look into that
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PHARMACOLOGY:
EXEMESTANE: I’m starting it this month )should arrive in about 10 days) at 6.25mg ED, once I start test Iadjust (I’ll get bloodwork before starting test so I can properly dose), I expect 1-2in from this
HGH: I’ll be starting at 3IU ASAP and gradually bumping it to 15IU as I’m able to afford it, I expect 3-5in from this
+ Eplerenone for the bloat
Also GnRH/GHRP for hgh synergy: maybe 1 in probably closer to 1cm extra
Then experimental rSWT, if it works maybe I’ll get 1-2cm extra
Abaloparatide, maybe 1in over 18 months
Erdafitinib will then switch to navepegritide asap: 1.5in over 18 months
KY19382: There’s limited evidence on this but imo seems promising, maybe 1in
Romosozumab (low dose) + Epithalon: maybe 1cm
If I’m under 190cm (6’2 3/4) by the time I turn 17, I will explore the possibility of Noggin inhibition or BMP analogs in more depth to see if it’s even possible.
From this pharmacological stack I should (according to this numbers) have 9-15in ONLY from this, but since many pathways overlap maybe only like 6in, even then I should be 5’11 to 6’1 naturally so that’s THEORETICALLY enough, only time will tell
Test: 200-300mg yearlong during puberty to increase dimorphism, penis and gymcelling (ill start tamoxifen with it and adjust ai intake after bloodwork)
- dht derivatives: same goals as test but x5 (will start using hyaluronic acid + dermastamping on the face to attempt to counteract its anti-estrogenic effects on the skin, Ill add injectable ghkcu too, I will start also ru58841)
DHT GEL: will be using this on my penis, I don't expect much from it but may help marginally
TADALAFIL: overall health support and fuller erections (I’dont have ED but it’s not SUPER Full all the time, even less when it gets bigger)
MOST OF THE HEIGHT RELATED PHARMACOLOGY WILL STOP once (if) I’m able to reach 6’6 (so if im like 6’4 at 17y4m with open plates for example I would stop height/bone interventions, lower the gh dose to 3iu, keep the ai bc of test
Before hardmaxxing I estimate my potential at 1 in 1000-5000 face
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HARDMAXXING:
These I will start properly planning once I turn 18, by that time I plan to be off most bone growth medications anyway
- If levobunolol doesn't do shit I may do laser iris depigmentation
- If I’m under 191cm by the time growth plates fuse (which shouldn’t happen but whatever) I will do LLS to reach 6’5-6’6 morning height
- If PE curvature correction don't work I may (or may not) get curvature correction surgery
As a general guideline for this, my NUMBER 1 priority is the results being natural, even if I must sacrifice ratios on a screen (thankfully im not super off on anything that may look uncanny if I attempt to fix it but still)
Also I’m not going to cheap out on ANY of these procedures, no way im getting under the knife in Mumbai or some shit like that (doesn't eliminate risks but at least lowers them), I’m getting them in THE BEST clinics and designs money can buy and obviously doing thousands of hours of research etc…
18y3m: DOUBLE JAW SURGERY + GENIOPLASTY + SUPRAORBITAL RIM, INFRAORBITAL-MALAR IMPLANTS
18y5m: OTOPLASTY (not huge ears but like 14% and slight asymmetry so why not)
18y6m: HAIRLINE LOWERING (1.38 → 1.36 tfwhr, 35→ 32% top third) + EYEBROW TRANSPLANT (if I decide I don't want to dermapen and use minoxidil forever)
18y9m: MINOR BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL + SUBMENTAL LIPO + SUPRAORBITAL FAT GRAFTING
19y0m: RHINOPLASTY (alar base increase+ fix bulbousness+nasal tip angle and adjust to fit new convexities from DJS+genio+supras)
19y3m: MEDIAL EPICANTHOPLASTY (FROM 1.10 ICD TO 0.9-0,99) + COMMISUROPLASTY
20y0m: FULLY ASCENDED and recovered yay
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RESULTS
After all of this I estimate I will be able to have at least a 1 in 10k face if things don't go horribly wrong
If things go really right this is what it'll be like:
90% Harmony, 9.25 Angularity, 8.75 dimorphism, 9.5 features, 1 in 100k+ overall
6’6, 240lbs, 11% body fat, 50cm biacromial, 60cm bidelt
light green/blue eyes, Fitz III, black hair (still 75% European, 25% amerindian ancestry but will get some JBW)
8in NBPEL, 6.25in girth, +15º curve
No permanent disease
These are some morphs I made (I know surgeries aren’t a fuckin photoshop morph but still, you’ll get the general idea, and also I’m not the best at morhping ik from the front profile it looks like an alien):
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What do you think of my ascension plan GUYS? I personally think it’s GREAT
Okay so let’s say he grows to at least 5‘10 and doesn’t do ll (which is pretty unrealistic anyways) he can easily do implants or double jaw surgery. You have to have the money for it and for the recovery too but idk why you’re acting like dozens of people didn’t alr got dbjs. And tbh about the money part you’re not really wrong but social media is literally the best tool to make money fast you’re just gotta be creative lolLet even hypothetically assume this where to go through:
On top of that your going to be missing your prime year's even if yuo where to do a double jaw + LL, wont even look normal nor walk normal till 24-25 n by than all thoose years of accuring experiences that cant be replicated will never happen again.
Say goodbye to a first love,
Say goodbye to college lifestyle / experience /parites and slaying
Say goodbye to not having responsibilities and jus going out and having fun with people who dont have responsibilities
Say goodbye to traveling with friend's to Cancun during spring break to slay Latina's before semester ends
You will never get these experiences back
Majority of people who are getting these procedure's are workaholics or have insane money cause they made there identity tied to work to the point they could afford it n jus said fuck it or did it for medical reasons covered by insurance.
Im not even tryna be mean OP, but the reason I said find a hobby is cause maybe one day that hobby might actually make you some money n becoming very good at it just might make it more realistic.
Many Dweller's on this forumn who delete the profile regret:
Waiting to live until they become perfect, because Perfection never actually arrives n they realize it year's later
i didnt say i actually expect to grow to 6'6, i said if things go REALLY right (and that's including the other like 10 interventions, obviously gh cant make you 10 inches taller i never said that)Okay so first of all you’re 15 years old by you’re bone age and you fucking except to grow 10 inches from hgh be happy if you even grow 0.5 inch from hgh jfl![]()
YesResponsibilites are a social construct and I'm going to travel regardless of going to college or not.
'm going to become a workaholic for the next years to afford them n1 and n2 because there's not much else to do..
everyone even people who never heard of this forumn are doing all of the soft maxes your outlined nun of that is setting you apart at allLL is not THAT BAD if you do it in the good clinic, it's 3-4 months intensive recovery in the clinic and full recovery in 12-18months post op but even then, I ideally won't need to do it if even half of the stuff I mentioned works, and if it doesn't LLS is still worth it.
Hes not getting that, at least before 25implants or double jaw surgery.
Majority of people got it for insurance deductible for health reason which makes up the majority lmao no way you using that as an argument. Double Jaw + Implants + good surgeon + meds + taking work off for months + Orthodontics post procedure ????? yea buddy your out of touch with reality if your think this is remotely achievable by someone who doesnt even have aspirations to go to Uni or have parents who will help without insurance approval.You have to have the money for it and for the recovery too but idk why you’re acting like dozens of people didn’t alr got dbjs.
Easier said than done.but social media is literally the best tool to make money fast you’re just gotta be creative lol
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Contradicted your ownself here.
everyone even people who never heard of this forumn are doing all of the soft maxes your outlined nun of that is setting you apart at all
Hes not getting that, at least before 25
Majority of people got it for insurance deductible for health reason which makes up the majority lmao no way you using that as an argument. Double Jaw + Implants + good surgeon + meds + taking work off for months + Orthodontics post procedure ????? yea buddy your out of touch with reality if your think this is remotely achievable by someone who doesnt even have aspirations to go to Uni or have parents who will help without insurance approval.
Easier said than done.
maybe 0.001% of people actually make $50k a year off social media, n that wouldnt even be enough
ive done social media n have made money n the way people talk about it is not what it is.
i didnt say i actually expect to grow to 6'6, i said if things go REALLY right (and that's including the other like 10 interventions, obviously gh cant make you 10 inches taller i never said that)
You’re probably doing it wrong then and literally no there are thousands of people who make money of the TikTok rewards program and making at least 50k a year combined with sponsors. As I said you have to be creative and actually have to learn a skill which can take you a year to make entertaining videos… idk what kind of niche you did but it isn’t that hard to make money off social media if you really commitYes
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Contradicted your ownself here.
everyone even people who never heard of this forumn are doing all of the soft maxes your outlined nun of that is setting you apart at all
Hes not getting that, at least before 25
Majority of people got it for insurance deductible for health reason which makes up the majority lmao no way you using that as an argument. Double Jaw + Implants + good surgeon + meds + taking work off for months + Orthodontics post procedure ????? yea buddy your out of touch with reality if your think this is remotely achievable by someone who doesnt even have aspirations to go to Uni or have parents who will help without insurance approval.
Easier said than done.
maybe 0.001% of people actually make $50k a year off social media, n that wouldnt even be enough
ive done social media n have made money n the way people talk about it is not what it is.
you do know that creators who make 50-100k views on TikTok and are in a specific niche for example films make up to 10 k per month because of the new TikTok Programm you gotta be invited in. And then there is YouTube, sponsor deals and so much more it’s really not that hard you can also learn video editing or 3d animation and that’s easier said then done that’s gonna take you almost a year or so but you can also work for other people with those kind of skillsYes
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Contradicted your ownself here.
everyone even people who never heard of this forumn are doing all of the soft maxes your outlined nun of that is setting you apart at all
Hes not getting that, at least before 25
Majority of people got it for insurance deductible for health reason which makes up the majority lmao no way you using that as an argument. Double Jaw + Implants + good surgeon + meds + taking work off for months + Orthodontics post procedure ????? yea buddy your out of touch with reality if your think this is remotely achievable by someone who doesnt even have aspirations to go to Uni or have parents who will help without insurance approval.
Easier said than done.
maybe 0.001% of people actually make $50k a year off social media, n that wouldnt even be enough
ive done social media n have made money n the way people talk about it is not what it is.
you can take those months of work off if you work from home and you’re your only boss. Idk even know why you’re being so pessimistic it kinda sounds like you’re giving up anyways. Sure some things in his plan are easier said then done and probably won’t happen but dbj isn’t impossible and inaccessible. you’re right the recovery time is very long that’s why you’re ideally working from home and you’re also right that it will cost a lot of money but it’s not impossible like you’re describing. There also so many people on this site who got dbj without insurance covering. And maybe he only needs a bimaxYes
Bills
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Contradicted your ownself here.
everyone even people who never heard of this forumn are doing all of the soft maxes your outlined nun of that is setting you apart at all
Hes not getting that, at least before 25
Majority of people got it for insurance deductible for health reason which makes up the majority lmao no way you using that as an argument. Double Jaw + Implants + good surgeon + meds + taking work off for months + Orthodontics post procedure ????? yea buddy your out of touch with reality if your think this is remotely achievable by someone who doesnt even have aspirations to go to Uni or have parents who will help without insurance approval.
Easier said than done.
maybe 0.001% of people actually make $50k a year off social media, n that wouldnt even be enough
ive done social media n have made money n the way people talk about it is not what it is.
Ive already under went a procedure (genio) and have touched every drug u can think ofyou can take those months of work off if you work from home and you’re your only boss. Idk even know why you’re being so pessimistic it kinda sounds like you’re giving up anyways. Sure some things in his plan are easier said then done and probably won’t happen but dbj isn’t impossible and inaccessible. you’re right the recovery time is very long that’s why you’re ideally working from home and you’re also right that it will cost a lot of money but it’s not impossible like you’re describing. There also so many people on this site who got dbj without insurance covering. And maybe he only needs a bimax
you definitely dont have 75% harmony, thats legit cl+ level harmony. you wouldnt even be thinking of improving your looks if that was the case.Current stats:
75% Harmony, 6 Angularity, 6 dimorphism, 9 features
bro you realize theres only like less than 10 niggas discovered that have a 90% overall harmony.... why the fuck do you dumbass greycels think you need to be high chad to slay and get better treatment. like dawg htn is extremly attraactive compared to the avg person, and you could easily becme a tiktok slayer at htn.RESULTS
After all of this I estimate I will be able to have at least a 1 in 10k face if things don't go horribly wrong
If things go really right this is what it'll be like:
90% Harmony, 9.25 Angularity, 8.75 dimorphism, 9.5 features, 1 in 100k+ overall
75% harmony is not cl, u would have to be like an 7-8 on everything else (in my case its almost the oppositve) but whatever and I did say Im P90-95 face. Also I didnt say im an incel or getting brutalized for my looks, ik im htnyou definitely dont have 75% harmony, thats legit cl+ level harmony. you wouldnt even be thinking of improving your looks if that was the case.
bro you realize theres only like less than 10 niggas discovered that have a 90% overall harmony.... why the fuck do you dumbass greycels think you need to be high chad to slay and get better treatment. like dawg htn is extremly attraactive compared to the avg person, and you could easily becme a tiktok slayer at htn.
this niggas a good example
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good luck with ky19382This is my FULL plan to ascend from my current P90-95 face to true CHAD status by 20yo (1 in 50kish face). I 100% will follow this plan (obviously there will be some minor tweaks with time but still).
For context, I turned 16 2 weeks ago but I THINK have delayed bone age by almost a year and also I have had fucked up sleep, chronic stress and poor diet for the last 4+ years so I will be fixing that.
Current stats:
75% Harmony, 6 Angularity, 6 dimorphism, 9 features
5’7 1/2, 120lbs, 15% body fat, 40cm biacromial
dark brown eyes, Fitz III, black hair (75% European, 25% amerindian)
7.5in NBPEL, 5.25in girth, -20º curve
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SOFTMAXXES:
- Sleep: I’ve been fixing my sleep and am ACTUALLY asleep 8-10 hours every night, average 9h
- Diet: I drink 1L milk everyday, once I can afford it ill do 2L raw every day. I don't eat much processed stuff anymore but I will get rid of it fully eventually and eat more meat and stuff. Also on a slight caloric surplus.
- Stress: I just stopped caring jfl
- gymcelling: I currently only do 3sets of lateral raises EOD and 3 sets of pullovers for ribcage expansion EOD but once I hop on I’ll gymcel fully
- copelements:
Magnesium ,boron, d3k2, zinc, omega3s im taking right now,
soon ill start with antioxidants (lycopene+astaxanthin) to fix my coloring and get some jbw, im a natural Fitz III so skin color should be almost ideal.
next ill do: glycine, vitamin c, manganese, silica, msm for skin, cartilage and height (prob not more than like 2cm over many years but still), leucine and glutathione (first oral and then injectable, ive heard it helps with jbw too).
- Posture: it’s obviously cope but I do have kinda severe FHP so ill fix that, hopefully I can gain at least 1cm from this.
- Skincare: just the typical cleanse moisture protect (spf50+ pa++++)
+ Accutane: I started low dose isotret. 2 months ago (10mg/day) and I bumped to 20mg a couple days ago, my acne is pretty much my biggest and only big features issue so that will be great, also it reduces nose bulbousness a bit and that would help me too.
- eyebrowmaxxing: ill do topical minoxidil + derma penning, ive tried castor oil for 2 months didn't do shit
- eye color: may not work but ill experiment with levobunolol for years and see, if it works I would have essentially perfect coloring by like 23, if not it’s over for me
- Masseter training: Ill train my masseters JUST A LITTLE BIT, my bigonial width is ALMOST ideal but it’s not really square so I’ll experiment with it, not so much that I look like fucking Connor Murphy or some shit like that obviously
- Teeth: whitening strips + Invisalign
- mouth stretching: I will experiment with a microstamia prevention device to make my mouth a bit wider, not a huge issue I have but why not
- bonesmashing: day a I do malars and infras, day b I do chin and supras. it works but obviously nothing compared to the hardmaxes
- penis pumping: I have ideal length (7.5 NBPEL prob will reach 8 with the stuff ill mention later on anyway) but girth could be better (5.25→6.25) so this will help get some of it.
- Curvature optimization: My penis is fucking curved downwards (it’s like -20º, ideal is 10-20º upwards), I don't really know how it can be fixed exactly but I’ve heard that it’s possible on PE forums by like brutally bending your cock with a fucking metal bender or smth jfl so ill look into that
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PHARMACOLOGY:
EXEMESTANE: I’m starting it this month )should arrive in about 10 days) at 6.25mg ED, once I start test Iadjust (I’ll get bloodwork before starting test so I can properly dose), I expect 1-2in from this
HGH: I’ll be starting at 3IU ASAP and gradually bumping it to 15IU as I’m able to afford it, I expect 3-5in from this
+ Eplerenone for the bloat
Also GnRH/GHRP for hgh synergy: maybe 1 in probably closer to 1cm extra
Then experimental rSWT, if it works maybe I’ll get 1-2cm extra
Abaloparatide, maybe 1in over 18 months
Erdafitinib will then switch to navepegritide asap: 1.5in over 18 months
KY19382: There’s limited evidence on this but imo seems promising, maybe 1in
Romosozumab (low dose) + Epithalon: maybe 1cm
If I’m under 190cm (6’2 3/4) by the time I turn 17, I will explore the possibility of Noggin inhibition or BMP analogs in more depth to see if it’s even possible.
From this pharmacological stack I should (according to this numbers) have 9-15in ONLY from this, but since many pathways overlap maybe only like 6in, even then I should be 5’11 to 6’1 naturally so that’s THEORETICALLY enough, only time will tell
Test: 200-300mg yearlong during puberty to increase dimorphism, penis and gymcelling (ill start tamoxifen with it and adjust ai intake after bloodwork)
- dht derivatives: same goals as test but x5 (will start using hyaluronic acid + dermastamping on the face to attempt to counteract its anti-estrogenic effects on the skin, Ill add injectable ghkcu too, I will start also ru58841)
DHT GEL: will be using this on my penis, I don't expect much from it but may help marginally
TADALAFIL: overall health support and fuller erections (I’dont have ED but it’s not SUPER Full all the time, even less when it gets bigger)
MOST OF THE HEIGHT RELATED PHARMACOLOGY WILL STOP once (if) I’m able to reach 6’6 (so if im like 6’4 at 17y4m with open plates for example I would stop height/bone interventions, lower the gh dose to 3iu, keep the ai bc of test
Before hardmaxxing I estimate my potential at 1 in 1000-5000 face
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HARDMAXXING:
These I will start properly planning once I turn 18, by that time I plan to be off most bone growth medications anyway
- If levobunolol doesn't do shit I may do laser iris depigmentation
- If I’m under 191cm by the time growth plates fuse (which shouldn’t happen but whatever) I will do LLS to reach 6’5-6’6 morning height
- If PE curvature correction don't work I may (or may not) get curvature correction surgery
As a general guideline for this, my NUMBER 1 priority is the results being natural, even if I must sacrifice ratios on a screen (thankfully im not super off on anything that may look uncanny if I attempt to fix it but still)
Also I’m not going to cheap out on ANY of these procedures, no way im getting under the knife in Mumbai or some shit like that (doesn't eliminate risks but at least lowers them), I’m getting them in THE BEST clinics and designs money can buy and obviously doing thousands of hours of research etc…
18y3m: DOUBLE JAW SURGERY + GENIOPLASTY + SUPRAORBITAL RIM, INFRAORBITAL-MALAR IMPLANTS
18y5m: OTOPLASTY (not huge ears but like 14% and slight asymmetry so why not)
18y6m: HAIRLINE LOWERING (1.38 → 1.36 tfwhr, 35→ 32% top third) + EYEBROW TRANSPLANT (if I decide I don't want to dermapen and use minoxidil forever)
18y9m: MINOR BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL + SUBMENTAL LIPO + SUPRAORBITAL FAT GRAFTING
19y0m: RHINOPLASTY (alar base increase+ fix bulbousness+nasal tip angle and adjust to fit new convexities from DJS+genio+supras)
19y3m: MEDIAL EPICANTHOPLASTY (FROM 1.10 ICD TO 0.9-0,99) + COMMISUROPLASTY
20y0m: FULLY ASCENDED and recovered yay
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RESULTS
After all of this I estimate I will be able to have at least a 1 in 10k face if things don't go horribly wrong
If things go really right this is what it'll be like:
90% Harmony, 9.25 Angularity, 8.75 dimorphism, 9.5 features, 1 in 100k+ overall
6’6, 240lbs, 11% body fat, 50cm biacromial, 60cm bidelt
light green/blue eyes, Fitz III, black hair (still 75% European, 25% amerindian ancestry but will get some JBW)
8in NBPEL, 6.25in girth, +15º curve
No permanent disease
These are some morphs I made (I know surgeries aren’t a fuckin photoshop morph but still, you’ll get the general idea, and also I’m not the best at morhping ik from the front profile it looks like an alien):
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What do you think of my ascension plan GUYS? I personally think it’s GREAT
he's doing medial epicanthoplasty I assume he's asian so it's a shit plan unless he gets lefort 3, monobloc, etc rhinogood luck with ky19382
@ICL statemant on this
Im not asian my icds just a little high, its gonna be a minor one just a couple mm. And im also doing rhino lefort i and othershe's doing medial epicanthoplasty I assume he's asian so it's a shit plan unless he gets lefort 3, monobloc, etc rhino
best grey of all time?This is my FULL plan to ascend from my current P90-95 face to true CHAD status by 20yo (1 in 50kish face). I 100% will follow this plan (obviously there will be some minor tweaks with time but still).
For context, I turned 16 2 weeks ago but I THINK have delayed bone age by almost a year and also I have had fucked up sleep, chronic stress and poor diet for the last 4+ years so I will be fixing that.
Current stats:
75% Harmony, 6 Angularity, 6 dimorphism, 9 features
5’7 1/2, 120lbs, 15% body fat, 40cm biacromial
dark brown eyes, Fitz III, black hair (75% European, 25% amerindian)
7.5in NBPEL, 5.25in girth, -20º curve
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SOFTMAXXES:
- Sleep: I’ve been fixing my sleep and am ACTUALLY asleep 8-10 hours every night, average 9h
- Diet: I drink 1L milk everyday, once I can afford it ill do 2L raw every day. I don't eat much processed stuff anymore but I will get rid of it fully eventually and eat more meat and stuff. Also on a slight caloric surplus.
- Stress: I just stopped caring jfl
- gymcelling: I currently only do 3sets of lateral raises EOD and 3 sets of pullovers for ribcage expansion EOD but once I hop on I’ll gymcel fully
- copelements:
Magnesium ,boron, d3k2, zinc, omega3s im taking right now,
soon ill start with antioxidants (lycopene+astaxanthin) to fix my coloring and get some jbw, im a natural Fitz III so skin color should be almost ideal.
next ill do: glycine, vitamin c, manganese, silica, msm for skin, cartilage and height (prob not more than like 2cm over many years but still), leucine and glutathione (first oral and then injectable, ive heard it helps with jbw too).
- Posture: it’s obviously cope but I do have kinda severe FHP so ill fix that, hopefully I can gain at least 1cm from this.
- Skincare: just the typical cleanse moisture protect (spf50+ pa++++)
+ Accutane: I started low dose isotret. 2 months ago (10mg/day) and I bumped to 20mg a couple days ago, my acne is pretty much my biggest and only big features issue so that will be great, also it reduces nose bulbousness a bit and that would help me too.
- eyebrowmaxxing: ill do topical minoxidil + derma penning, ive tried castor oil for 2 months didn't do shit
- eye color: may not work but ill experiment with levobunolol for years and see, if it works I would have essentially perfect coloring by like 23, if not it’s over for me
- Masseter training: Ill train my masseters JUST A LITTLE BIT, my bigonial width is ALMOST ideal but it’s not really square so I’ll experiment with it, not so much that I look like fucking Connor Murphy or some shit like that obviously
- Teeth: whitening strips + Invisalign
- mouth stretching: I will experiment with a microstamia prevention device to make my mouth a bit wider, not a huge issue I have but why not
- bonesmashing: day a I do malars and infras, day b I do chin and supras. it works but obviously nothing compared to the hardmaxes
- penis pumping: I have ideal length (7.5 NBPEL prob will reach 8 with the stuff ill mention later on anyway) but girth could be better (5.25→6.25) so this will help get some of it.
- Curvature optimization: My penis is fucking curved downwards (it’s like -20º, ideal is 10-20º upwards), I don't really know how it can be fixed exactly but I’ve heard that it’s possible on PE forums by like brutally bending your cock with a fucking metal bender or smth jfl so ill look into that
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PHARMACOLOGY:
EXEMESTANE: I’m starting it this month )should arrive in about 10 days) at 6.25mg ED, once I start test Iadjust (I’ll get bloodwork before starting test so I can properly dose), I expect 1-2in from this
HGH: I’ll be starting at 3IU ASAP and gradually bumping it to 15IU as I’m able to afford it, I expect 3-5in from this
+ Eplerenone for the bloat
Also GnRH/GHRP for hgh synergy: maybe 1 in probably closer to 1cm extra
Then experimental rSWT, if it works maybe I’ll get 1-2cm extra
Abaloparatide, maybe 1in over 18 months
Erdafitinib will then switch to navepegritide asap: 1.5in over 18 months
KY19382: There’s limited evidence on this but imo seems promising, maybe 1in
Romosozumab (low dose) + Epithalon: maybe 1cm
If I’m under 190cm (6’2 3/4) by the time I turn 17, I will explore the possibility of Noggin inhibition or BMP analogs in more depth to see if it’s even possible.
From this pharmacological stack I should (according to this numbers) have 9-15in ONLY from this, but since many pathways overlap maybe only like 6in, even then I should be 5’11 to 6’1 naturally so that’s THEORETICALLY enough, only time will tell
Test: 200-300mg yearlong during puberty to increase dimorphism, penis and gymcelling (ill start tamoxifen with it and adjust ai intake after bloodwork)
- dht derivatives: same goals as test but x5 (will start using hyaluronic acid + dermastamping on the face to attempt to counteract its anti-estrogenic effects on the skin, Ill add injectable ghkcu too, I will start also ru58841)
DHT GEL: will be using this on my penis, I don't expect much from it but may help marginally
TADALAFIL: overall health support and fuller erections (I’dont have ED but it’s not SUPER Full all the time, even less when it gets bigger)
MOST OF THE HEIGHT RELATED PHARMACOLOGY WILL STOP once (if) I’m able to reach 6’6 (so if im like 6’4 at 17y4m with open plates for example I would stop height/bone interventions, lower the gh dose to 3iu, keep the ai bc of test
Before hardmaxxing I estimate my potential at 1 in 1000-5000 face
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HARDMAXXING:
These I will start properly planning once I turn 18, by that time I plan to be off most bone growth medications anyway
- If levobunolol doesn't do shit I may do laser iris depigmentation
- If I’m under 191cm by the time growth plates fuse (which shouldn’t happen but whatever) I will do LLS to reach 6’5-6’6 morning height
- If PE curvature correction don't work I may (or may not) get curvature correction surgery
As a general guideline for this, my NUMBER 1 priority is the results being natural, even if I must sacrifice ratios on a screen (thankfully im not super off on anything that may look uncanny if I attempt to fix it but still)
Also I’m not going to cheap out on ANY of these procedures, no way im getting under the knife in Mumbai or some shit like that (doesn't eliminate risks but at least lowers them), I’m getting them in THE BEST clinics and designs money can buy and obviously doing thousands of hours of research etc…
18y3m: DOUBLE JAW SURGERY + GENIOPLASTY + SUPRAORBITAL RIM, INFRAORBITAL-MALAR IMPLANTS
18y5m: OTOPLASTY (not huge ears but like 14% and slight asymmetry so why not)
18y6m: HAIRLINE LOWERING (1.38 → 1.36 tfwhr, 35→ 32% top third) + EYEBROW TRANSPLANT (if I decide I don't want to dermapen and use minoxidil forever)
18y9m: MINOR BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL + SUBMENTAL LIPO + SUPRAORBITAL FAT GRAFTING
19y0m: RHINOPLASTY (alar base increase+ fix bulbousness+nasal tip angle and adjust to fit new convexities from DJS+genio+supras)
19y3m: MEDIAL EPICANTHOPLASTY (FROM 1.10 ICD TO 0.9-0,99) + COMMISUROPLASTY
20y0m: FULLY ASCENDED and recovered yay
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RESULTS
After all of this I estimate I will be able to have at least a 1 in 10k face if things don't go horribly wrong
If things go really right this is what it'll be like:
90% Harmony, 9.25 Angularity, 8.75 dimorphism, 9.5 features, 1 in 100k+ overall
6’6, 240lbs, 11% body fat, 50cm biacromial, 60cm bidelt
light green/blue eyes, Fitz III, black hair (still 75% European, 25% amerindian ancestry but will get some JBW)
8in NBPEL, 6.25in girth, +15º curve
No permanent disease
These are some morphs I made (I know surgeries aren’t a fuckin photoshop morph but still, you’ll get the general idea, and also I’m not the best at morhping ik from the front profile it looks like an alien):
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What do you think of my ascension plan GUYS? I personally think it’s GREAT
i said cl harmony, if u had a 7-8 everything else, for sure high chadlite overall. 75% is high as fuck75% harmony is not cl, u would have to be like an 7-8 on everything else (in my case its almost the oppositve) but whatever and I did say Im P90-95 face. Also I didnt say im an incel or getting brutalized for my looks, ik im htn