My full asencions plan. (high effort)

[legenden200]

My stats right now are 17 (18 in 3 weeks) 179cm 70kg
this is only my plan for now. im not done. give my recommendations and tell me if its cope or not.
here are some pics of me. i just shaved my beard which fucked me up hard?.

Hair​

• Shampoo: 1x every 2 weeks
  
  
• Conditioner: 1x per week (one of those times should be right after shampoo)
  
  
• Styling: curl cream + light hairspray (hairspray causes buildup, so keep it minimal)
  
  
• Haircut: keep volume on the sides but clean it up
  
  
• Style goal: slick-back curly hair
  

---

Eyebrows​

• Professional shaping: il maybe get it
  
  
• Cleanup: eyebrow razor as needed
  
  
• Black dye: 1x every 2 weeks (on shampoo day)
  
  
• Castor oil: every night
  

---

Eyes​

• White eye drops: daily
  
  
• Lazy eye training: 5–10 minutes daily (eye muscle exercises)
  

---

Eyelashes​

• Dye: every 2 weeks (mayby)
  
  
• Castor oil: every night
  
  
• Lash lift: mayby
  
  
• Curl: only when needed
  

---

Nose​

• Accutane: should help overall
  
  
• Hydrocortisone (temporary “fraud”):
  
  • daily for 2 weeks before big events
    
    
  • then only as needed
    il only maybe do it

---

Lips​

• Brush lips daily while brushing teeth
  
  
• Vaseline daily
  
  
• Red tinted chapstick
  
  
• Volufiline (temporary plumpness)
  

---

Teeth​

• Whitening toothpaste
  
  
• Crest whitening strips (as needed)
  

---

Facial Hair​

• Test either:
  
  • light stubble everywhere
    
    
  • or goatee only
    
• Likely grow back goatee
  

---

Skin​

• Gentle cleanser
  
  
• Moisturizer morning + night
  
  
• Let accutane do most of the work
  

---

Makeup (minimal)​

• Tinted SPF (La Roche-Posay)
  
  
• Spot concealer pen (spots + under eyes)
  
  
• Black waterline pencil
  
  
• Optional: a little on zygos for big events only
  

---

“Frauds”​

• Height boost (shoes/inserts)
  

---

Posture​

• Chin tucks
  
  
• Stretching when you wake up
  

---

Bone Smashing​

• Focus: zygos + chin
  
  
• 10 minutes every 2 days
  
  • before going out
    

might as well try lol

---

Neck​

• Neck training every other day
  
  
• Neck curls
  

---

Gym​

• PPL 6x/week
  
  
• Switch to Upper/Lower later
  

---

Style​

• Improve overall style (clothes + grooming)
  

---

Medical​

• Accutane: 15–20mg daily long-term
  
  
• Cialis: 5mg daily
  

---

Supplements​

• Ultra B complex
  
  
• Multivitamin
  
  
• Digestive enzymes
  
  
• Milk thistle extract
  
  
• Vitamin D3
  
  
• Magnesium
  
  
• Vitamin C
  
  
• Omega-3
  
  
• Sleep supplement (melatonin + 5-HTP etc.)
  
  
• Creatine: 10g daily
  
  
• Caffeine as needed
  
  
• Cholesterol support
  
  
• Kidney support
  
  
• Ashwagandha
  
  
• Protein powder as needed
  
  
• Glucosamine-chondroitin
  

---

Sleep​

• Sleep before 1am
  
  
• 8–10 hours
  
  
• No phone 30 minutes before bed
  

---

Food​

• Clean foods only (no junk)
  
  
• Low sodium, high potassium
  
  
• High protein + high carbs
  
  
• Low fat
  
  
• Unsure: 200 calories under or over maintenance
  

---

Cardio + Steps​

• 10k steps daily
  
  
• 1–2k steps right after waking up
  
  
• High-intensity cardio a couple times per week

 

[legenden200]

some of the photos are frauded hard lol. also some unfrauded.

 

[Ahmed88]

Mirin, good luck bro

 

[legenden200]

b

 

[legenden200]

bump. any opinions on my plan?

 

[LX180]

Cuh drop the goatee. Go clean shaven all the way

 

[legenden200]

Cuh drop the goatee. Go clean shaven all the way

my philtrum and lips are awfull. my mouth area is cooked. i feel the facial hair hides it. dont you think? on my other post everyone said to grow back my goatee

 

[luuk]

My stats right now are 17 (18 in 3 weeks) 179cm 70kg​

this is only my plan for now. im not done. give my recommendations and tell me if its cope or not.​

here are some pics of me. i just shaved my beard which fucked me up hard?.​

View attachment 4672318View attachment 4672319View attachment 4672320View attachment 4672321View attachment 4672322View attachment 4672323View attachment 4672324View attachment 4672325View attachment 4672327​

​

Hair​

• Shampoo: 1x every 2 weeks
  
  
• Conditioner: 1x per week (one of those times should be right after shampoo)
  
  
• Styling: curl cream + light hairspray (hairspray causes buildup, so keep it minimal)
  
  
• Haircut: keep volume on the sides but clean it up
  
  
• Style goal: slick-back curly hair

---

Eyebrows​

• Professional shaping: il maybe get it
  
  
• Cleanup: eyebrow razor as needed
  
  
• Black dye: 1x every 2 weeks (on shampoo day)
  
  
• Castor oil: every night

---

Eyes​

• White eye drops: daily
  
  
• Lazy eye training: 5–10 minutes daily (eye muscle exercises)

---

Eyelashes​

• Dye: every 2 weeks (mayby)
  
  
• Castor oil: every night
  
  
• Lash lift: mayby
  
  
• Curl: only when needed

---

Nose​

• Accutane: should help overall
  
  
• Hydrocortisone (temporary “fraud”):
  • daily for 2 weeks before big events
    
    
  • then only as needed
    il only maybe do it

---

Lips​

• Brush lips daily while brushing teeth
  
  
• Vaseline daily
  
  
• Red tinted chapstick
  
  
• Volufiline (temporary plumpness)

---

Teeth​

• Whitening toothpaste
  
  
• Crest whitening strips (as needed)

---

Facial Hair​

• Test either:
  • light stubble everywhere
    
    
  • or goatee only
• Likely grow back goatee

---

Skin​

• Gentle cleanser
  
  
• Moisturizer morning + night
  
  
• Let accutane do most of the work

---

Makeup (minimal)​

• Tinted SPF (La Roche-Posay)
  
  
• Spot concealer pen (spots + under eyes)
  
  
• Black waterline pencil
  
  
• Optional: a little on zygos for big events only

---

“Frauds”​

• Height boost (shoes/inserts)

---

Posture​

• Chin tucks
  
  
• Stretching when you wake up

---

Bone Smashing​

• Focus: zygos + chin
  
  
• 10 minutes every 2 days
  • before going out

might as well try lol

---

Neck​

• Neck training every other day
  
  
• Neck curls

---

Gym​

• PPL 6x/week
  
  
• Switch to Upper/Lower later

---

Style​

• Improve overall style (clothes + grooming)

---

Medical​

• Accutane: 15–20mg daily long-term
  
  
• Cialis: 5mg daily

---

Supplements​

• Ultra B complex
  
  
• Multivitamin
  
  
• Digestive enzymes
  
  
• Milk thistle extract
  
  
• Vitamin D3
  
  
• Magnesium
  
  
• Vitamin C
  
  
• Omega-3
  
  
• Sleep supplement (melatonin + 5-HTP etc.)
  
  
• Creatine: 10g daily
  
  
• Caffeine as needed
  
  
• Cholesterol support
  
  
• Kidney support
  
  
• Ashwagandha
  
  
• Protein powder as needed
  
  
• Glucosamine-chondroitin

---

Sleep​

• Sleep before 1am
  
  
• 8–10 hours
  
  
• No phone 30 minutes before bed

---

Food​

• Clean foods only (no junk)
  
  
• Low sodium, high potassium
  
  
• High protein + high carbs
  
  
• Low fat
  
  
• Unsure: 200 calories under or over maintenance

---

Cardio + Steps​

• 10k steps daily
  
  
• 1–2k steps right after waking up
  
  
• High-intensity cardio a couple times per week

Mirin a user actually following a decent non-larp protocol, most people here put in no effort or post about hopping on 10 different roids and proceed to do nothing

My critiques would be:

1. You’ll want to reduce the appearance of your forehead with your hair, consider a style that covers it. An exposed hairline is only a halo when you have a good forehead size, I have a similar problem you’ll look like megamind brushing it all back.
2. No goatee unless you can grow a proper moustache and even then I don’t think it works with your skull shape, experiment with stubble if you can grow it all around if not clean shave
3. Bonesmashing is a meme I wouldn’t bother with it, if you insist then just use it for a zygo “pump” because thats all its good for but it looks aspie as hell
4. May as well switch to U/L (or FBEOD) now, PPL x6 is going to be more fatiguing for less stimulus, research the data on training frequency.
5. For neck curls make sure to progressively overload with weight (not just with a towel like some people I’ve seen) and also don’t go too overboard in the long run or you can get sleep apnea and look disproportionate.
6. Supplement stack is bloated and some stuff is somewhat cope I’d worry about absorption at that point a lot of things might compete
7. Fat is important for testosterone, ensure you get adequate levels. Carb timing is important, prioritise them pre/intra workout. Sodium is also pretty important and a lot of the tiktok “knowledge” on “debloating” is cope in reality, having two bananas a day and refusing to salt your food won’t noticeably “debloat” you.

Good luck though the things I’ve mentioned are mostly minor considerations
You should remind yourself though that these things are just softmaxxes and won’t fundamentally alter your bone structure, manage your expectations

 

[legenden200]

Mirin a user actually following a decent non-larp protocol, most people here put in no effort or post about hopping on 10 different roids and proceed to do nothing

My critiques would be:

1. You’ll want to reduce the appearance of your forehead with your hair, consider a style that covers it. An exposed hairline is only a halo when you have a good forehead size, I have a similar problem you’ll look like megamind brushing it all back.
2. No goatee unless you can grow a proper moustache and even then I don’t think it works with your skull shape, experiment with stubble if you can grow it all around if not clean shave
3. Bonesmashing is a meme I wouldn’t bother with it, if you insist then just use it for a zygo “pump” because thats all its good for but it looks aspie as hell
4. May as well switch to U/L (or FBEOD) now, PPL x6 is going to be more fatiguing for less stimulus, research the data on training frequency.
5. For neck curls make sure to progressively overload with weight (not just with a towel like some people I’ve seen) and also don’t go too overboard in the long run or you can get sleep apnea and look disproportionate.
6. Supplement stack is bloated and some stuff is somewhat cope I’d worry about absorption at that point a lot of things might compete
7. Fat is important for testosterone, ensure you get adequate levels. Carb timing is important, prioritise them pre/intra workout. Sodium is also pretty important and a lot of the tiktok “knowledge” on “debloating” is cope in reality, having two bananas a day and refusing to salt your food won’t noticeably “debloat” you.

Good luck though the things I’ve mentioned are mostly minor considerations
You should remind yourself though that these things are just softmaxxes and won’t fundamentally alter your bone structure, manage your expectations

thanks for the good answer.


1. im not really sure what haircut to get. do you have any in mind?

2. i feel the goatee helps me hide my awfull mouth area. whats your thought about that?


4. i used to be a gymcell with a insane physique at 16. i lost 10kg and am now coming back to the gym. i enjoy doing ppl more so its easier for me to get back to the gym. but your probably right.

6. it is somewhat cope. i am on trt rn and and getting my health up for a blast phase. i researched most of them to see if they compete and it doenst look like it. i split it up into my 3 meals.


7. i am on trt but didtn mention it. i started peds at around 14 with a cope mk2866 cycle then went to test primo anavar proviron after doing probably a year of nd research. at 15. also i get sodium but mostly before my workout as an electrolyte. its hard for me to get potassium since coconut water in my country is sooo expensive. i would spend 20 dollars a day on it. lol

but thank you very much. i will take it all into consideration. oh and heres a pic of gymcell me at 16

 

[mavJJ]

Maybe the worst plan ive ever seen. a combination of redundant and excessive softmaxxes.

Nigga ashwagandha?

 

[legenden200]

Mirin a user actually following a decent non-larp protocol, most people here put in no effort or post about hopping on 10 different roids and proceed to do nothing

My critiques would be:

1. You’ll want to reduce the appearance of your forehead with your hair, consider a style that covers it. An exposed hairline is only a halo when you have a good forehead size, I have a similar problem you’ll look like megamind brushing it all back.
2. No goatee unless you can grow a proper moustache and even then I don’t think it works with your skull shape, experiment with stubble if you can grow it all around if not clean shave
3. Bonesmashing is a meme I wouldn’t bother with it, if you insist then just use it for a zygo “pump” because thats all its good for but it looks aspie as hell
4. May as well switch to U/L (or FBEOD) now, PPL x6 is going to be more fatiguing for less stimulus, research the data on training frequency.
5. For neck curls make sure to progressively overload with weight (not just with a towel like some people I’ve seen) and also don’t go too overboard in the long run or you can get sleep apnea and look disproportionate.
6. Supplement stack is bloated and some stuff is somewhat cope I’d worry about absorption at that point a lot of things might compete
7. Fat is important for testosterone, ensure you get adequate levels. Carb timing is important, prioritise them pre/intra workout. Sodium is also pretty important and a lot of the tiktok “knowledge” on “debloating” is cope in reality, having two bananas a day and refusing to salt your food won’t noticeably “debloat” you.

Good luck though the things I’ve mentioned are mostly minor considerations
You should remind yourself though that these things are just softmaxxes and won’t fundamentally alter your bone structure, manage your expectations

oh and also. is my forehead big? isnt it just my lower third thats small and makes it look bigger + lens distoration. if you look in the mirror pic of my physique id say it isnt that bad

 

[legenden200]

Maybe the worst plan ive ever seen. a combination of redundant and excessive softmaxxes.

Nigga ashwagandha?

i am going to use Hydrocortisone and if you look at https://looksmax.org/threads/updated-nose-size-reduction-via-softmaxing-guide.1324837/ then apperently it raises cortisol which ashwaganda could help on. But what would you recomend for me to do. i am open to all recomendations that arent surgeries for now

 

[luuk]

thanks for the good answer.


1. im not really sure what haircut to get. do you have any in mind?

2. i feel the goatee helps me hide my awfull mouth area. whats your thought about that?


4. i used to be a gymcell with a insane physique at 16. i lost 10kg and am now coming back to the gym. i enjoy doing ppl more so its easier for me to get back to the gym. but your probably right.

6. it is somewhat cope. i am on trt rn and and getting my health up for a blast phase. i researched most of them to see if they compete and it doenst look like it. i split it up into my 3 meals.


7. i am on trt but didtn mention it. i started peds at around 14 with a cope mk2866 cycle then went to test primo anavar proviron after doing probably a year of nd research. at 15. also i get sodium but mostly before my workout as an electrolyte. its hard for me to get potassium since coconut water in my country is sooo expensive. i would spend 20 dollars a day on it. lol

but thank you very much. i will take it all into consideration. oh and heres a pic of gymcell me at 16

Peds at 14 is crazy, mirin the ambition but be careful particularly wrt fertility, premature hair loss etc starting so young. You want to avoid having to use dht blockers before you’re fully finished developing

Goatee might work when you get proper density in the moustache area but right now it isn’t it.

Workout split isn’t that important tbh if you prefer PPL you won’t be at a major disadvantage staying on it, its just that only one rest day is pretty fatiguing

Plus it adds vertical length to your chin which you absolutely don’t want, you want to make your face look wider it anything.

 

[luuk]

oh and also. is my forehead big? isnt it just my lower third thats small and makes it look bigger + lens distoration. if you look in the mirror pic of my physique id say it isnt that bad

Looks bad in front camera pics its alright in the mirror one, might just be angle/distortion idk
Also something I just noticed, do you shave your inner eyebrows or something? If so stop immediately they’re very far apart

 

[luuk]

Also hop on minox for the moustache, facial hair, brows and lashes if you aren’t already

 

[legenden200]

Looks bad in front camera pics its alright in the mirror one, might just be angle/distortion idk
Also something I just noticed, do you shave your inner eyebrows or something? If so stop immediately they’re very far apart

yeah i do and i recently noticed that it looks horible lol. i will grow them out now. im going to a place that will shape my eyebrows and dye them + my lashes for 50 bucks. id say its worth

 

[legenden200]

Also hop on minox for the moustache, facial hair, brows and lashes if you aren’t already

i been thinking about it but i cba with all the bodyhair that i also will get. i already struggle with needing to shave 3 times a week for my physique to get shown. also im 17 so the girls my age arent going for the hairy sugar daddy look lmao

 

[luuk]

yeah i do and i recently noticed that it looks horible lol. i will grow them out now. im going to a place that will shape my eyebrows and dye them + my lashes for 50 bucks. id say its worth

Yeah definitely don’t shave that bit man
Ik what its like to sort of be blind to your own features tbh but its not a good look at all they’re way too far apart

 

[luuk]

i been thinking about it but i cba with all the bodyhair that i also will get. i already struggle with needing to shave 3 times a week for my physique to get shown. also im 17 so the girls my age arent going for the hairy sugar daddy look lmao

I reckon it would be worth it, you’re clearly willing to put effort into a lot of other stuff, shaving slightly more often is no big deal
You really need a decent moustache to cover the philtrum

 

[legenden200]

Peds at 14 is crazy, mirin the ambition but be careful particularly wrt fertility, premature hair loss etc starting so young. You want to avoid having to use dht blockers before you’re fully finished developing

Goatee might work when you get proper density in the moustache area but right now it isn’t it.

Workout split isn’t that important tbh if you prefer PPL you won’t be at a major disadvantage staying on it, its just that only one rest day is pretty fatiguing

Plus it adds vertical length to your chin which you absolutely don’t want, you want to make your face look wider it anything.

yeah. i did peds very early but dont regret it for now since im pretty into all the pharma stuff and think i know what i am doing. i was cooked before peds with bonemass and im pretty sure it helped. i only use primo for when i am on blast to avoid high estrogen sides. i would say i havent expericended balding "yet" il try to get a small stuble on my face and see if it helps with a little contrast

 

[legenden200]

I reckon it would be worth it, you’re clearly willing to put effort into a lot of other stuff, shaving slightly more often is no big deal
You really need a decent moustache to cover the philtrum

would you say i should go for the solo moustache look mayby? the moustache i can "grow" is very very thin

 

[legenden200]

Yeah definitely don’t shave that bit man
Ik what its like to sort of be blind to your own features tbh but its not a good look at all they’re way too far apart

mayby the clean shaven look istn that bad after all. it might just be that huge pimple fucking me up. + my philtrum

 

[legenden200]

Bump

 

[cortisolman2]

some of the photos are frauded hard lol. also some unfrauded.

whats wrong with ur filtrum niggah its looks decomposed or smth

 

[legenden200]

whats wrong with ur filtrum niggah its looks decomposed or smth

It prob is

 

[ASTRO_YSD]

My stats right now are 17 (18 in 3 weeks) 179cm 70kg​

this is only my plan for now. im not done. give my recommendations and tell me if its cope or not.​

here are some pics of me. i just shaved my beard which fucked me up hard?.​

View attachment 4672318View attachment 4672319View attachment 4672320View attachment 4672321View attachment 4672322View attachment 4672323View attachment 4672324View attachment 4672325View attachment 4672327​

​

Hair​

• Shampoo: 1x every 2 weeks
  
  
• Conditioner: 1x per week (one of those times should be right after shampoo)
  
  
• Styling: curl cream + light hairspray (hairspray causes buildup, so keep it minimal)
  
  
• Haircut: keep volume on the sides but clean it up
  
  
• Style goal: slick-back curly hair

---

Eyebrows​

• Professional shaping: il maybe get it
  
  
• Cleanup: eyebrow razor as needed
  
  
• Black dye: 1x every 2 weeks (on shampoo day)
  
  
• Castor oil: every night

---

Eyes​

• White eye drops: daily
  
  
• Lazy eye training: 5–10 minutes daily (eye muscle exercises)

---

Eyelashes​

• Dye: every 2 weeks (mayby)
  
  
• Castor oil: every night
  
  
• Lash lift: mayby
  
  
• Curl: only when needed

---

Nose​

• Accutane: should help overall
  
  
• Hydrocortisone (temporary “fraud”):
  • daily for 2 weeks before big events
    
    
  • then only as needed
    il only maybe do it

---

Lips​

• Brush lips daily while brushing teeth
  
  
• Vaseline daily
  
  
• Red tinted chapstick
  
  
• Volufiline (temporary plumpness)

---

Teeth​

• Whitening toothpaste
  
  
• Crest whitening strips (as needed)

---

Facial Hair​

• Test either:
  • light stubble everywhere
    
    
  • or goatee only
• Likely grow back goatee

---

Skin​

• Gentle cleanser
  
  
• Moisturizer morning + night
  
  
• Let accutane do most of the work

---

Makeup (minimal)​

• Tinted SPF (La Roche-Posay)
  
  
• Spot concealer pen (spots + under eyes)
  
  
• Black waterline pencil
  
  
• Optional: a little on zygos for big events only

---

“Frauds”​

• Height boost (shoes/inserts)

---

Posture​

• Chin tucks
  
  
• Stretching when you wake up

---

Bone Smashing​

• Focus: zygos + chin
  
  
• 10 minutes every 2 days
  • before going out

might as well try lol

---

Neck​

• Neck training every other day
  
  
• Neck curls

---

Gym​

• PPL 6x/week
  
  
• Switch to Upper/Lower later

---

Style​

• Improve overall style (clothes + grooming)

---

Medical​

• Accutane: 15–20mg daily long-term
  
  
• Cialis: 5mg daily

---

Supplements​

• Ultra B complex
  
  
• Multivitamin
  
  
• Digestive enzymes
  
  
• Milk thistle extract
  
  
• Vitamin D3
  
  
• Magnesium
  
  
• Vitamin C
  
  
• Omega-3
  
  
• Sleep supplement (melatonin + 5-HTP etc.)
  
  
• Creatine: 10g daily
  
  
• Caffeine as needed
  
  
• Cholesterol support
  
  
• Kidney support
  
  
• Ashwagandha
  
  
• Protein powder as needed
  
  
• Glucosamine-chondroitin

---

Sleep​

• Sleep before 1am
  
  
• 8–10 hours
  
  
• No phone 30 minutes before bed

---

Food​

• Clean foods only (no junk)
  
  
• Low sodium, high potassium
  
  
• High protein + high carbs
  
  
• Low fat
  
  
• Unsure: 200 calories under or over maintenance

---

Cardio + Steps​

• 10k steps daily
  
  
• 1–2k steps right after waking up
  
  
• High-intensity cardio a couple times per week

Noice

 

[Aveyyri]

my philtrum and lips are awfull. my mouth area is cooked. i feel the facial hair hides it. dont you think? on my other post everyone said to grow back my goatee

get a septum piercing for ur philtrum lol even if u think it's gay it's life changing, get a fake one first to really decide