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My last thread I made about it was a week ago, I didn’t change much but I did learn a lot more about why it was less optimal than how it is now. I also elaborated there about my current situation and my plans, this didn’t changed so you can just go to that thread and look at it.

I will show you my split, exercise selection, my workout stats, sets per workout INCLUDING overlap, sets per week NOT including overlap etc etc.

my stats are like this:
175 cm (Manlet status yeah:), 67-69 ish kg, I’m between 16-20 BF%, waist is 76-77 cm (mogger), and bicep is between 40-41 (didn’t check in a while).

My split is FBeod. My split until a few days ago was FB 3 times a week instead of EOD, why does it make a difference ? Because with a 3 times a week split you only get 3 times frequency and with eod you get 3.5 times frequency. Why? Because if you do the average of your 2 weeks of training eod, it sill be equal to 3.5 frequency since one week you go 4 times- Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday = 4 times a week. Then the next week you do Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, which will result in a average of 3.5 frequency.

The stats of the program are :
Stats: 0-2 RIR, minimum 48 hours rest between each session, big stretch only on quads, hamstrings and chest exericses,3-5 minutes per exercise minimum.

Anyway, the muscle groups I train are- side delt, upper back (rhomboids, traps), lats, pecs, quads, hamstrings, abductors, calves, triceps, biceps, front delt, erectors, abdominals.

exercises I do for each muscle group is-
Side delt- lateral raises in machine or in cuffed cables.

Upper back- T bar row

Lats- sagittal Keenan flaps/one arm lat pulldown, wide grip lat pulldown.

Upper Pecs- smith machine supinated grip, pec deck.

Quads- leg extension, hack squat.

Hams- lying leg curl, back extension.

Adductors- adduction machine.

Calves- standing calf raises.

Tricep- SA cuffed tricep extension, OH tricep extension

Biceps- preacher curl 45/60 degrees.

Front delt- shoulder press

Erectors- back extension.

Abs- crunches.

Exercise order, sets, reps and why I do each exercise:
Unilateral cuffed lateral raises - 2x6-8. I do these cuffed to avoid other muscle in my limb to work and to isolate the side delt, I do it unilaterally since my right part of my body is much stronger so I need to maximize my left.

T bar row- 2x5-8. In my previous program I did kelso shrugs but I realized I don’t like it much and I prefer to lower the volume a bit and to just keep the T bar.

Wide grip lat pulldown- 1x5-8. I do both wide grip lat pulldown and sagittal Keenan flaps/one arm lat pulldown since I want to try and bias my whole lats even tho the literature shows that you can’t really bias parts of the lats, but I want to be sure so why not do both.

Sagittal Keenan flaps/one arm lat pulldown- 1x5-8. Nothing to say. More planes- more possible parts of the lat are being hit.

incline bench supinated grip smith machine- 1x5-8. I do it supinated since when you do it that way you are naturally doing shoulder flexing, hence you’re hitting the upper pecs much better.

Leg extension - 1x5-8. I switch right to legs since I need to prioritize them (i neglected them for a long time lol).

Hack squat- 1x5-8. Nothing to say, but I picked a leg extension and hack squat since one extend the leg and one flexes the knee.

Lying leg curl- 1x5-8. I do only 1 set here since it works also in the back extension.

adduction- 1x5-8. I mean, adductors, lol.

Standing calf raises- 2x5-8. Same here, nothing to say, legs are boring

Pec deck - 1x5-8. I do pec deck after incline smith bench since my sternal costal is much bigger than my clavicular pec so I can prioritize it much less.

S/A triceps extension 1x5-8cuffed cables. In my previous program I did 2 sets of this exercise and I thought it was enough since tricep extension hits all heads of the triceps, but I added an OH tricep extension to bias my lateral head better.

OH tricep extension (bilaterally) 1x5-8. Literally what i said just now.

Preacher curl- 1x5-8. I don’t like training biceps, that’s why I do only 1 set and it works the best for me.

Seated shoulder press- 1x5-8- only 1 set since it works in a incline bench as well.

Back extensions- 2x5-8- some erectors bias since I neglected them as well (I max the machine now).

Crunch- 2x5-8. Abs because why not.

Stair master 30 minutes. I’m cutting so why not.

A total of 22 sets

Sets per workout including overlap:
Sets per workout including overlap:

Side delts- 3

Upper back- 2.5

Lats- 3

Chest- 2

Triceps- 3

Biceps- 3

Front delts- 3

Quads- 2

Hamstrings- 3

Glutes- 2

Adductors- 2

Calves- 2

Spinal erectors- 2


Abs 2

Sets per week not including overlap
Sets per week not including overlap:

Side delts- 10.5

Upper back- 7

Lats- 7

Chest- 7

Triceps- 7

Biceps- 3.5

Front delt- 3.5

Quads- 7

Hamstrings- 3.5

Glutes- 3.5

Adductors- 3.5

Calves- 7

Spinal erectors- 7

Abs-
I choose my exercises based on stability since they need to be as stable as possible. If they are enjoyable (to an extending ofc).
Diet:
Breakfast: 130 grams Greek yogurt 2%, 30 grams yellow cheese, 110 gram pita

Lunch: 200 gram potatoes , 100 gram breast chicken, 200 gram white cooked rice

Pre workout: 120 gram banana, 16 gram rice cakes, gummy bears 50 grams

Evening: 130 grams veggies (salad), 100 gram breast chicken, 60 gram egg, 150 gram rice

My macros and calories are:

Calories: ~1,945-2,050 kcal

Protein: ~140 g

Carbs: ~340 g

Fat: ~23 g (I usually eat more than 23 g since I eat a lot of avocados daily).

I’m in a slight deficit (300-500 calories). Walking 20,000 steps on average.

My takes the the preworkout: I consume 3-5x of caffeine of my weight (so 66-69kgx3-5 mg of caffeine). I consume fast digesting carbs (high GI (70+)).

Tagging: @brootaldude @mikre @chudpiller @ce10098 you guys tell me if I forgot anything to add

I tried to make it as throughly as possible, would like to hear your insights:KannaPog:
 
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Exepected some bullshit hut skimmed a bit and looks good
 
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i imagine you ripped asf btw
 
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Good workout i suggest you check your micros and supplement yourself with the ones lacking either with some low cal foods or synthetic supplements
 
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Exepected some bullshit hut skimmed a bit and looks good
Thanks
i imagine you ripped asf btw
i can send you a pic of me in DMs
"science-based" is genuinely a cringe term so maybe that's why
Everything is cringe nowadays might as well just go with it
Good workout i suggest you check your micros and supplement yourself with the ones lacking either with some low cal foods or synthetic supplements
I’m thinking about getting omegas, fish oil, magnesium and electrolytes atm
 
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Thanks

i can send you a pic of me in DMs

Everything is cringe nowadays might as well just go with it

I’m thinking about getting omegas, fish oil, magnesium and electrolytes atm
If that can help you im taking
Before bed
200mg magnesium glyc ed
2mg melatonin ed
800mg ashwagandha ed 4 weeks on 1 week off

In the morning
50mg zinc e3d
4000 IU d3 125 mcg k2 ed
200mg vitamin C ed
Fish oil 180mg EPA 120mg DHA ed

SInce you eat the same stuff everyday just check whats missing and take it
 
does bro have the ekko cuff
 
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i used to be a huge fbeod dickrider for about a year
then i switched to anterior/posterior (2x frequency, 2 sets everything) for almost a year now and made way more progress. I think full body is better if you're on a time constraint
 
i used to be a huge fbeod dickrider for about a year
then i switched to anterior/posterior (2x frequency, 2 sets everything) for almost a year now and made way more progress. I think full body is better if you're on a time constraint
Yea I heard some people say the exact same thing. I tried anterior posterior a few months back and I didn’t like it. Decent split tho
 
My last thread I made about it was a week ago, I didn’t change much but I did learn a lot more about why it was less optimal than how it is now. I also elaborated there about my current situation and my plans, this didn’t changed so you can just go to that thread and look at it.

I will show you my split, exercise selection, my workout stats, sets per workout INCLUDING overlap, sets per week NOT including overlap etc etc.

my stats are like this:
175 cm (Manlet status yeah:), 67-69 ish kg, I’m between 16-20 BF%, waist is 76-77 cm (mogger), and bicep is between 40-41 (didn’t check in a while).

My split is FBeod. My split until a few days ago was FB 3 times a week instead of EOD, why does it make a difference ? Because with a 3 times a week split you only get 3 times frequency and with eod you get 3.5 times frequency. Why? Because if you do the average of your 2 weeks of training eod, it sill be equal to 3.5 frequency since one week you go 4 times- Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday = 4 times a week. Then the next week you do Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, which will result in a average of 3.5 frequency.

The stats of the program are :
Stats: 0-2 RIR, minimum 48 hours rest between each session, big stretch only on quads, hamstrings and chest exericses,3-5 minutes per exercise minimum.

Anyway, the muscle groups I train are- side delt, upper back (rhomboids, traps), lats, pecs, quads, hamstrings, abductors, calves, triceps, biceps, front delt, erectors, abdominals.

exercises I do for each muscle group is-
Side delt- lateral raises in machine or in cuffed cables.

Upper back- T bar row

Lats- sagittal Keenan flaps/one arm lat pulldown, wide grip lat pulldown.

Upper Pecs- smith machine supinated grip, pec deck.

Quads- leg extension, hack squat.

Hams- lying leg curl, back extension.

Adductors- adduction machine.

Calves- standing calf raises.

Tricep- SA cuffed tricep extension, OH tricep extension

Biceps- preacher curl 45/60 degrees.

Front delt- shoulder press

Erectors- back extension.

Abs- crunches.

Exercise order, sets, reps and why I do each exercise:
Unilateral cuffed lateral raises - 2x6-8. I do these cuffed to avoid other muscle in my limb to work and to isolate the side delt, I do it unilaterally since my right part of my body is much stronger so I need to maximize my left.

T bar row- 2x5-8. In my previous program I did kelso shrugs but I realized I don’t like it much and I prefer to lower the volume a bit and to just keep the T bar.

Wide grip lat pulldown- 1x5-8. I do both wide grip lat pulldown and sagittal Keenan flaps/one arm lat pulldown since I want to try and bias my whole lats even tho the literature shows that you can’t really bias parts of the lats, but I want to be sure so why not do both.

Sagittal Keenan flaps/one arm lat pulldown- 1x5-8. Nothing to say. More planes- more possible parts of the lat are being hit.

incline bench supinated grip smith machine- 1x5-8. I do it supinated since when you do it that way you are naturally doing shoulder flexing, hence you’re hitting the upper pecs much better.

Leg extension - 1x5-8. I switch right to legs since I need to prioritize them (i neglected them for a long time lol).

Hack squat- 1x5-8. Nothing to say, but I picked a leg extension and hack squat since one extend the leg and one flexes the knee.

Lying leg curl- 1x5-8. I do only 1 set here since it works also in the back extension.

adduction- 1x5-8. I mean, adductors, lol.

Standing calf raises- 2x5-8. Same here, nothing to say, legs are boring

Pec deck - 1x5-8. I do pec deck after incline smith bench since my sternal costal is much bigger than my clavicular pec so I can prioritize it much less.

S/A triceps extension 1x5-8cuffed cables. In my previous program I did 2 sets of this exercise and I thought it was enough since tricep extension hits all heads of the triceps, but I added an OH tricep extension to bias my lateral head better.

OH tricep extension (bilaterally) 1x5-8. Literally what i said just now.

Preacher curl- 1x5-8. I don’t like training biceps, that’s why I do only 1 set and it works the best for me.

Seated shoulder press- 1x5-8- only 1 set since it works in a incline bench as well.

Back extensions- 2x5-8- some erectors bias since I neglected them as well (I max the machine now).

Crunch- 2x5-8. Abs because why not.

Stair master 30 minutes. I’m cutting so why not.

A total of 22 sets

Sets per workout including overlap:
Sets per workout including overlap:

Side delts- 3

Upper back- 2.5

Lats- 3

Chest- 2

Triceps- 3

Biceps- 3

Front delts- 3

Quads- 2

Hamstrings- 3

Glutes- 2

Adductors- 2

Calves- 2

Spinal erectors- 2


Abs 2

Sets per week not including overlap
Sets per week not including overlap:

Side delts- 10.5

Upper back- 7

Lats- 7

Chest- 7

Triceps- 7

Biceps- 3.5

Front delt- 3.5

Quads- 7

Hamstrings- 3.5

Glutes- 3.5

Adductors- 3.5

Calves- 7

Spinal erectors- 7

Abs-
I choose my exercises based on stability since they need to be as stable as possible. If they are enjoyable (to an extending ofc).
Diet:
Breakfast: 130 grams Greek yogurt 2%, 30 grams yellow cheese, 110 gram pita

Lunch: 200 gram potatoes , 100 gram breast chicken, 200 gram white cooked rice

Pre workout: 120 gram banana, 16 gram rice cakes, gummy bears 50 grams

Evening: 130 grams veggies (salad), 100 gram breast chicken, 60 gram egg, 150 gram rice

My macros and calories are:

Calories: ~1,945-2,050 kcal

Protein: ~140 g

Carbs: ~340 g

Fat: ~23 g (I usually eat more than 23 g since I eat a lot of avocados daily).

I’m in a slight deficit (300-500 calories). Walking 20,000 steps on average.

My takes the the preworkout: I consume 3-5x of caffeine of my weight (so 66-69kgx3-5 mg of caffeine). I consume fast digesting carbs (high GI (70+)).

Tagging: @brootaldude @mikre @chudpiller @ce10098 you guys tell me if I forgot anything to add

I tried to make it as throughly as possible, would like to hear your insights:KannaPog:
thx for the tag. no brachioradialis? just do a descending profile or hammer curls and you improved. mirin
 
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thx for the tag. no brachioradialis? just do a descending profile or hammer curls and you improved. mirin
You’re welcome. I have a sleeper build and I want to embrace it so so forearms bias:hnghn:. Weird reason haha.
I also don’t like doing any reverse or hammer curls
 
You’re welcome. I have a sleeper build and I want to embrace it so so forearms bias:hnghn:. Weird reason haha.
I also don’t like doing any reverse or hammer curls
tbf never thought of that. might have to stop lmaooo
 
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tbf never thought of that. might have to stop lmaooo
Nah it’s just something that I specifically like tbh. I just really hate to do reverse curls and hammer curls
 
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mirin thread bhai
bookmarked
 
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@Dzad this is my program, if you want you can change some things since I did it personally for me and how much I enjoy it
 
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